Or the actual 105k Service? It's usually in your best intrest to get everything done at once. The Labor costs is where you'll save.
My 90k service (105k for you.) Included...
Valve Cover Gasket Set (pretty major...)
Timing Belt (MAJOR)
Belt Balnace Shaft
Water Pump (MAJOR)
Crank Seal
Camshaft Seal
Balance Shaft Seal
Balance Shaft seal Retainer
Timing Belt Tensioner
Castrol Engine Oil (Thats jsut MY prefrence)
Oil Filter
Antifreeze
Power Steering Belt
A/C and Alternator Belt
Spark Plugs
Radiator Cap (Mine was found to be broken)
Honda ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid)
I HIGHLY reccoment you get the ATF, Timing Belt, Water Pump, and Seals (at least) all done at once if you can afford it. Mine was out the roof, but the dealer I went to took me for a ride essentially, so call around, get some quotes. All I'll say is don't pay $1500 for the above to be done. I did. My reg. mechanic could've done it (with honda parts) for $900. I wish I had done that.
So call the dealer first, and tell them you'd like a price for not just the Belt, but the WHOLE service (105k, they'll know) and then call a few ind. import shops, but whatever you do, just make sure the ATF, and the Belt is Honda. Its major importante!
to be honest here, if you are on a tight budget, the least you could do is the seals, belts (timing belt included), coolant, and water pump for about 400 bucks....
that would be bare minimum..... my car has seen three 90k services, and she is still running fine to this point.....
yea i should tell him to do that! he's not as into the car care as i am. he has about 60,000 miles on the car. too soon for the timing belt right? thanks everyone!
But not too soon for an ATF-Z1 drain/refill, no matter what the owners manual says about mileage. Also freshen the P.S. fluid with the Honda PSF if it hasn't been done in the last 30K. Check Brake fluid level, airfilter and coolant level.
Or the actual 105k Service? It's usually in your best intrest to get everything done at once. The Labor costs is where you'll save.
My 90k service (105k for you.) Included...
Valve Cover Gasket Set (pretty major...)
Timing Belt (MAJOR)
Belt Balnace Shaft
Water Pump (MAJOR)
Crank Seal
Camshaft Seal
Balance Shaft Seal
Balance Shaft seal Retainer
Timing Belt Tensioner
Castrol Engine Oil (Thats jsut MY prefrence)
Oil Filter
Antifreeze
Power Steering Belt
A/C and Alternator Belt
Spark Plugs
Radiator Cap (Mine was found to be broken)
Honda ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid)
I HIGHLY reccoment you get the ATF, Timing Belt, Water Pump, and Seals (at least) all done at once if you can afford it. Mine was out the roof, but the dealer I went to took me for a ride essentially, so call around, get some quotes. All I'll say is don't pay $1500 for the above to be done. I did. My reg. mechanic could've done it (with honda parts) for $900. I wish I had done that.
So call the dealer first, and tell them you'd like a price for not just the Belt, but the WHOLE service (105k, they'll know) and then call a few ind. import shops, but whatever you do, just make sure the ATF, and the Belt is Honda. Its major importante!
I agree with Accordlover - I wouldn't even consider replacing the timing belt without also replacing the water pump and tensioner. You're already down there, you might as well.
I don't care what the car is, or when the factory recommends timing belt changes. I always change timing belts between 60k and 90k miles depending on how hard the auto is driven.
First change on cars I change the timing belt, accessory belts, plugs and wires, engine oil and filter, tranny fluid and filter. Along with other routine maint. items.
Second change on the car I change the timing belt, inspect cogs for wear and change if needed, replace water pump and tensioner system. Inspect seals. Change if needed. Replace accessory belts. Replace radiator hose's. Inspect and more times than not, replace the alternator. Inspect and replace the starter if there have been episodes of hard starting that might have led to the solder being slung out of the commutator. Also change out the plugs and wires, engine oil/filter, tranny fluid and filter. Along with other routine maint. items.
Keep those fuel filters changed out. Inspect the brakes, suspension and exhaust system.
On our Accord and Civic with timing chains. I'm thinking a 200k mile change out. I will inspect them at 100k miles or so and see how they look.
I don't care what the car is, or when the factory recommends timing belt changes. I always change timing belts between 60k and 90k miles depending on how hard the auto is driven.
My car had the belt changed when it was 10yrs old, and had 90k CITY miles. I have the belt, and it looks realively fine, there are no cracks, splitting etc (and I live in the south too). I think honda knows what they were doing when they made the maitennace schedule. I've never heard of one Honda/Acura owner whose belt failed on them before the specified change interval. :dunno:
In old, old ones, it was a 60k interval, and then it was 90k, then a 105k. I'd bet that Honda sets the change interval several thousand miles before they've seen the belts actually break in their testing, just because half of Honda owners probably don't look at the maitennace scedule, let alone service their cars accordingly. (esp. 2nd/3rd owners.) Just my $.02
You need a technician not a mechanic. Mine are 109k miles old and are just fine. You only need to replace emissions related components (O2 sensors are one of those) if the car has the check engine light on, and the code pulled from the computer says to.
I have 97K on my 2003 EX-V6. (yes, I drive a lot - almost all highway miles) I bought the 100K HondaCare off the internet at the time and haven't had to use it on anything (which means it was a total waste of $, but that is a good thing). I'm debating whether to have the timing belt replaced before 100K since the car is still under extended warranty. I know the timing belt per se isn't covered, but maybe something else could be found that is covered. Do you think it is worth getting it replaced early in case anything else is found?
Inasmuch as you are going to do it anyway, I would say "yes."
In my opinion, since the water pump is also, usually, replaced when the timing belts are done, and therefore the coolant is being drained and replaced, I would strongly recommend that the thermostat be changed at that time also.
In some cases the thermostat fails after 100K miles and overheats the engine. This could also result in needing a head gasket or more.
Therefore, as long as the cooling system is drained for the water pump, may as well do the thermostat at the same time, instead of at a later time.
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