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post #1 of 36 Old 05-12-2017, 08:57 AM Thread Starter
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Suggestions for low cost upgrade '17 Touring Sound

Since day one of ownership (2 weeks ago)..
I have been dissatisfied with the sound system on my new car.

Been reading threads like crazy.. But there are so many different ones ... It is tough to get the good or right answer for my car (and my needs).

So here goes...

All I want is a little more clarity and some "real" bass. I listen to classic rock... I've used my iPhone, CDs, FM and XM.... Nothing sounds great. Although the CD and iPhone sound better.

Plus this music shouldn't be difficult to reproduce. Maybe I'm just old... But I'm a musician and know what "good" sound is..

The Honda's EQ controls don't do much at all. The Sub Woofer is a joke... It blows my mind that there is not a decent EQ on this thing. Sorry for the rant Maybe I need to take it to the dealer and complain?

OK...... take a deep breath Jake Jr.

So...... Say I have $500 to through at this. What would be the first logical thing to change?
Speakers? Amp? Can I add an EQ? Or is $500 not enough and I can do this in stages.

Any advice and specific brands/models would be welcomed.

I'd love to DIY ... But not opposed to having a shop do the install.

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Did you go into the diagnostics menu and turn Flat on? I assume so.

Was direct connection of iphone via audio port better then bluetooth?

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Did you go into the diagnostics menu and turn Flat on? I assume so.

Was direct connection of iphone via audio port better then bluetooth?
Good advice..Thx

Yes... I was able to go into the Diag mode and disable the EQ. (via the Android EQ app) .. Frankly, I didn't hear a huge difference. But I was in my driveway (not driving) and the sound system sounded pretty good either way.. (again while standing still and engine not running.)

But this is temp fix.. correct? Meaning I need to disable every time I start the engine... Because I don't see myself doing this every time. (unless I am wrong and it does stay disabled)... Please clarify if this is true.

Also I will need to experiment with the iPhone audio. I only tried it cabled in. I figure this is much better than BT.

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I have a 2015 Accord EX-L Sedan and Flat stays ON even if the diag menu says it is off. If you reenter the Diag menu however, I'd recommend you set again any settings you had before.
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The flat does not stay on, it's been verified on many models and years.

As for your options for upgrades, you've got a few. I would determine what you really need first and foremost, and decide how to spend money from there. The signal from the OEM H/U to the OEM amp is a clean, unfiltered signal and works with amps that accept balanced differential signals. The hardest part is intercepting that signal. It's not hard if you take your time, and are handy with a soldering iron.

You mentioned that you feel the sub is a joke, well you can add an amp/sub/enclosure and remedy that for around $500 installed. If you need some higher frequencies, you can look into replacing the front/rear speakers without getting into an amp but it will be better in the long run to add one. A DSP will help, but you'll need to find a competent installer to put it in and set it up. The car can sound good using the OEM H/U, it just depends on how far you want to go.
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The flat does not stay on, it's been verified on many models and years.

As for your options for upgrades, you've got a few. The car can sound good using the OEM H/U, it just depends on how far you want to go.
Thanks for the reply ..

As for the Sub being a joke.. I think it is more of the overall muddy-ness of the bass. The adjustment on the HU doesn't do much more than what the bass control does. But I don't think this is necessarily the first step for me to throw cash at. Because the music I listen to isn't necessarily bass heavy.

I appreciate your input from here.

I believe speakers are the first logical step..... But on the other hand, providing good clean signal to the current speakers may be the great choice... I can then work on speakers as needed. So start with the clean quality power first?

I assume a new amp would "By-pass" the DSP...

So how many channel amp would be recommended?
Car has 6 speakers + Sub..
ANY suggestions for amps brand or models.

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Disconnect the ANC module behind the cubby and save your money. You're welcome.

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Disconnect the ANC module behind the cubby and save your money. You're welcome.
Yes... Seems like a logical first step, I have read many threads... Some say Wow and others complain of more engine or exhaust noise. Guess we can't have it "both ways"!

I did try to disable ANC through the Diagnostics.
But only got a loud Hum!

Assuming the physical disconnection will solve this ... ?

Plus I want to reiterate ...
I have tested for a couple days now and the Sub-Woofer adjustment on the H/U does absolutely nothing. Not a thing ..

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Yes... Seems like a logical first step, I have read many threads... Some say Wow and others complain of more engine or exhaust noise. Guess we can't have it "both ways"!

I did try to disable ANC through the Diagnostics.
But only got a loud Hum!

Assuming the physical disconnection will solve this ... ?

Plus I want to reiterate ...
I have tested for a couple days now and the Sub-Woofer adjustment on the H/U does absolutely nothing. Not a thing ..
Since I have the sport trim, that diagnostic menu doesn't exist (I don't think) but I physically disconnected the module behind the cubby. It's also something you'd have to do anyway if you were to install an aftermarket subwoofer and amp.

I don't notice more engine or exhaust nose but I certainly noticed the muddy sound to have disappeared. Is it Earth shattering lows coming from the speakers? Absolutely not but I can certainly tell the difference.

As for the complaints of engine noise, turn the music up two clicks. The passive noise cancellation in the Accord is pretty damn good. People expect European luxury car refinement out of a $25k car and it isn't going to happen.

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I don't notice more engine or exhaust nose but I certainly noticed the muddy sound to have disappeared. Is it Earth shattering lows coming from the speakers? Absolutely not but I can certainly tell the difference.

As for the complaints of engine noise, turn the music up two clicks. The passive noise cancellation in the Accord is pretty damn good. People expect European luxury car refinement out of a $25k car and it isn't going to happen.
Good to hear.. thanks Crackerteg for your replies.
I will have time tomorrow morning to disconnect ANC ...

Edit: Tried to disconnect the ANC .. Going up from the passenger kick panel. Man that is tight... But will have to try again tomorrow... Will try the long flat head screw driver method ..

My only question is... How does one "reconnect" it ?

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Just plug it back in. Only goes one way.

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Just plug it back in. Only goes one way.
LOL .. I know that.

I meant it's such a tight area to work in back there... it would be impossible to get hand back up there( from passenger kick panel)
but I read more threads and see people going at it from front cubby.

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It's MUCH, MUCH easier to get at the ANC from the front. You only have to remove the silver trim pieces on either side of the center console (they pry off easily with a trim tool). Remove 2 screws from either side of the cubby, slide it out and now you can get full access to the ANC module. Takes 90 seconds.
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It's MUCH, MUCH easier to get at the ANC from the front. You only have to remove the silver trim pieces on either side of the center console (they pry off easily with a trim tool). Remove 2 screws from either side of the cubby, slide it out and now you can get full access to the ANC module. Takes 90 seconds.
Thanks TMVB!

I did try to go from the passenger side again ...
Impossible for me.....Maybe it's because I have the Navi.. But no way I can do it...

So will need to find the trim removal tool. Go from the front as you suggested.
Harbor Freight to Amazon will be my next stop.

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Thanks TMVB!

I did try to go from the passenger side again ...
Impossible for me.....Maybe it's because I have the Navi.. But no way I can do it...

So will need to find the trim removal tool. Go from the front as you suggested.
Harbor Freight to Amazon will be my next stop.
Get a small screwdriver and wrap a thin towel around it. Pry the silver trim pieces up at the rearmost point - back by the center console storage compartment. Once you have enough space to get your finger in, just pull it straight up. You will be surprised how easily these come off.

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