[mtts60]

I installed an F-106 Fumoto valve today and found a problem. Anyone see it?

https://flic.kr/p/B2Jbh9

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No matter how many times I tried, it would always tighten up in the same spot; the bottom-most part of the valve assembly being maybe 3/4" below the oil pan.

:0, indeed!

The silver disk you can see is not the drain itself; it's where the ball valve's detent spring lives. It's held in by an internal snap ring. The valve is well-made and I'd have no problems using one in an un-exposed location.

I suspect I could have fixed this with maybe two crush washers, but that's just wrong.

I just couldn't get over the possibility of an errant chunk of ice or a rock taking it out. So out it came and in went the drain bolt.

 

[mtts60]

For those not familiar, here's what a Fumoto valve looks like. It's a ball valve; push down and rotate the lever 90 degrees to open the drain. It came with the blue fiber washer:



Protrudes in to the drain pan the same distance as the bolt:



Drain bolt's diameter is 10mm, the Fumoto's hole is about 7.5mm:



Do not use the hex-shaped drain hole to mount it! Use a 19mm open-end wrench.

 

[Calamity Coyote]

I have been running the Fumoto valve for several years. Since I've got the V6, I had to add the extension adapter to bring it farther away from the pan for access clearance. Not the case you have. Yes, it will stick down a little. However, if you run over something tall enough to hit it, you'll be hitting other things first. Starting with the front bumper. 3/4" isn't that much. Personally I wouldn't worry about it, but that's your call.

 

[chris918]

Meh, I'd rather not give someone the opportunity to reach under there and drain my oil so easily. Besides, I feel a sense of pride everytime I pick up the 17mm wrench to change oil. No biggie.

 

[mtts60]

Yes, it will stick down a little. However, if you run over something tall enough to hit it, you'll be hitting other things first. Starting with the front bumper.

The sub-frame members were lower than the valve, but that means nothing to a chunk of ice or rock that is less than ~2 feet wide. Ruts on the road caused by slush that turned to ice at night would be a good example.

If the valve had been able to tighten 180 degrees opposite from the picture (silver disk pointing up) then it would stick down only a little, and probably still be installed on the car.

 

[t-rd]

Let me put my 2 cents on this, regarding the V6.

On the V6, once the fumoto valve is installed with the extension piece, the whole setup is parallel to the pan, flush. I cannot see the valve when I peek under the car. The point where everything tightened up is with the valve above the pan. I have to stick my finger up, push the lever up then swing to the side to open the valve. There is no way a rock would fly in such a way to flip open the valve on a V6. I bought the security clip piece that secures the valve, but I do not see a point of using it at all.

I cannot speak for the I4 engine. I see the picture, but if you somehow hit something to get the valve open, then you pretty much bottomed out the car onto the pan. Then you have a bigger problem than just the valve opening.

I am not worried. I'm keep this valve on for the rest of the life of the car.

 

[johnjk]

I have installed Fumoto valves on my cars since 1990 and have not had a single instance of leakage or road hazard damage. The only issue is that Honda will not change the oil due to the "non Honda accessory" that is installed.

I will put one on my 4cyl 2016 Accord once I use up all the free oil change coupons we got when we bought it.

Just changed the oil on my 2011 Pilot last night. Not a drop of oil on my hands or floor.

If you are going to drain right in to a jug, get the valve with the nipple on it so you can attach a section of hose.

 

[Ice]

Installed Fumoto in my 08 Accord (K24) and currently 13 Accord (J350). Total oil change time = 10 minutes, in which 9.5 minutes is watching the oil drain while drinking a beer. Never a drop spilled. Best invention ever.

 

[constricted]

As someone else stated if you're worried about the level being flipped by a chunk of ice, other stuff will be hit first. Also, fumoto makes a little lever clip that goes over the lever to prevent that from happening

 

[TomFromMo]

I just checked the Fumoto website and for a 2016 Accord V6 I got these search results "We are sorry, there are no Fumoto parts that are compatible with your vehicle." What part number valve and extension are you using for the V6 ?

 

[Ice]

I just checked the Fumoto website and for a 2016 Accord V6 I got these search results "We are sorry, there are no Fumoto parts that are compatible with your vehicle." What part number valve and extension are you using for the V6 ?

The valve is the same for both i4 and V6 Accord engines:

VALVE:
F-106: No nipple
F-106N: With nipple
F-106S: Short Nipple

For V6 guys, you will also need this adapter to clear the engine block:
ADL-106

Here's a picture with F106N + adapter installed on my V6:

As you can see, whatever that may hit the valve would have to also destroy the oil pan, engine mount and exhaust components.

 

[jDracer]

I've been using Fumoto valve on my Ford for 6 year, no issue with leakage or debris and I do drive offroad.

I bought it for a different reason though. When my Ford was new on the first oil change the shop managed to cross thread the plug. For me to swap the oil pan the sub-frame had to be removed. I bought the Fumoto and forced tightened it on for it final placement, no more oil pan swap.

I was so impressed by it that I bought it for my Accord, no tools require for oil changes.

 

[TomFromMo]

The valve is the same for both i4 and V6 Accord engines:

VALVE:
F-106: No nipple
F-106N: With nipple
F-106S: Short Nipple

For V6 guys, you will also need this adapter to clear the engine block:
ADL-106

Here's a picture with F106N + adapter installed on my V6:

As you can see, whatever that may hit the valve would have to also destroy the oil pan, engine mount and exhaust components.

Thank you for this information. Is that really a the F106N in the photo ? It does not appear to have the nipple. Thanks again !

 

[Ice]

Thank you for this information. Is that really a the F106N in the photo ? It does not appear to have the nipple. Thanks again !

I questioned it myself too as why the nipple doesn't show in the picture. I even double checked the order I placed on Amazon and it is the F106N. I will take another picture during the day.

 

[ikethegreat]

I am thinking about getting one of these. With or without the nipple is the question...

 

[Calamity Coyote]

The nipple is helpful if you want to use a hose connected to it to help feed the oil directly in your drain pan. Which is a plus when changing in windy outdoor weather. It also helps arch the drain away from vehicle when not using a hose. I got the one with nipple and adaptor for my 7th gen V6.

 

[LaZySiNh]

So yesterday 7/11/2016 i finally got it installed
Fumoto Valve F106S+ADL-106 Adapter on my 9th gen Accord sedan EXL V6

so my mechanic was like i never saw this before.

now they have a newer model called the "SX" series

SX Series Fumoto® Engine Oil Drain Valves | Fumoto® USA

for the members with the valve installed
how was the winter months been with fumoto installed? what was your experience ?
any corrosion?
--
just putting this information out there

 

[mtts60]

^^^hmmm. The new valve is interesting.

 

[jDracer]

That new SX version looks like a typical brake banjo bolt, it's pretty restrictive if you ask me. If this is the only way to mount one on your car then use it. Personally I would rather have a straight through version my self.

 

[Calamity Coyote]

A 360 degree swivel mount. Very interesting. I don't see how it could be any more restrictive than the original though. The valve itself is a bit slow on release due to size. Only concern I would have is how tight the swivel is. If you need it to be upward for clearance while driving and it slides down, it may hang down too low. Pretty cool though.