Originally Posted by danimalstwiztid
Well Do here we have a pull a part, you can pick up an engine for about $150 for any 4cyl and trans for about $60 and manual.
The reason i said about the timing belt is because iv'e done easy and hard. I just did a timing belt on a 2.4 dodge, i wanted to shoot myself. but i could change my MX6 2.2 and Toyota 3.0 in about 30 mins.
What's the best engine to boost?
Its extremely easy to do with the engine out of the car like you will be doing.
The absolute hardest part your going to have is finding a rebuildable engine and transmission in the salvage yard.
The F engine you have now is the best for turbo unless you want to spend $10,000-$15,000 to build a reliable turbo H22.
The H22 has high compression which is a down fall when your turboing on a stock Honda bottom end. The F22 you currently have is the opposite.
Compression ratios of the H22: 10.0-10.6:1.
Compression ratio of the F22: 8.8:1.
The F22 is safer to turbo due to its lower compression ratio and has some other very awesome features that you personally should find very appealing.
You evidently like the idea of going to a salvage yard to get parts which is perfect for turboing the F22A.
Look for the following vehicles:
90-99 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T or GSX. Must be 5 speed.
90-99 Eagle Talon Tsi. Must be 5 speed.
90-94 Plymouth Laser, RS Turbo. Must be 5 speed.
The above vehicles come factory turbo charged and almost every part you need to turbo your F22 can be found on these cars.
From the listed vehicles you will need the following parts:
Turbo. Its best to buy a Big 16G turbo from an Evo. $200-$300 easily.
Turbo manifold. Best to be from a 95-99. 90-94s are prone to cracking
Blow off valve
Fuel Injectors. Blue tops are 450cc. Must be from a 90-94. Must be blue.
The turbo if you decide to use the 14B will most likely need to be rebuilt. You can send it off and have it rebuilt and its not that expensive. You can buy a kit and do it yourself for about $65. There are videos on youtube to show you how to do this. A new 16G turbo which I highly recommend wont need a rebuild of course.
The turbo manifold will bolt up to the F22A head with a couple holes being slightly redrilled. This manifold will not work on the H22 or F22B. The F22A's ports are 0-0-0-0 thats called an even port. The H22 and F22B is 0-00-0 called an odd port. The F22A flows very well due to this design. You will use an F22A manifold gasket.
You can find info on redrilling the manifold and other info here, its a very easy procedure.
The fuel injectors re a direct fit.
You will need a universal front mount intercooler kit. Like the one below.
A custom down pipe will need to be fabricated. An exhaust shop should be able to help you with this. A 2.5" exhaust system is necessary.
Find you a muffler you like in 2.5".
Get a catalytic converter in 2.5" like the one below.
Have the exhaust shop make and install a 2.5" exhaust system with the parts or similar parts as listed above.
A Walbro 255 fuel pump kit will be needed. $100
An AEM fuel pressure regulator and fuel rail will be needed. $250
A 1/8" NPT fuel pressure gauge will need to be mounted to the fuel pressure regulator to show the fuel pressure as its needed to be adjusted. $25
The turbo has an internal wastegate. The wastegate regulates the boost. I would stick with the 6-7 Psi that its set at for reliablity. So a boost controller isn't needed.
You will need to make two AN oil feed lines for the turbo. You can have these made for you at any performance shop. They will know what sizes and everything you need just by looking at it. Or you can get universal oil feed lines for a 16G turbo. You will have to tap into the oil pan and valve cover to do this. It may not be as hard as it seems.
The DSM turbos like this are coolant cooled. It is a must to install coolant and feed lines. You can do this several ways. There are adapters on ebay that splice into the radiator hoses. You will need two of these for the turbo to draw coolant and push it out if you choose to go this route.
The advantage to the F22 is that it can except forged pistons with out having the block resleeved. This procedure costs $1250-$2000. And with the H22 its a must. With the F22A it isn't. So you save a lot of money here using the F22A.
People have just thrown the Eclipse turbo setups on the F22As without rebuilding or forged pistons. However you never know when its going to break a ring land and start smoking and losing power like crazy. At that point its "blown up".
I advise rebuilding the F22A using Bisimoto 87.5mm forged 9.2:1 compression pistons. $460
ARP main studs. $100
ARP head studs. $130
ARP Rod bolts.
Golden Eagle 87.5mm head gasket. $115
Have the block bored and honed to accept the 87.5mm pistons. $125+/-
ACL main and rod bearings with thrust washers.
Complete engine gasket kit $100
Aisin Mechanics complete timing belt kit. $225
Once you have the engine in and running. Dont run it much more than a few minitues. All you want to do is make sure it runs until you can get the car to a tuner.
You will need a boost gauge and a wideband A/F ratio gauge so that the car can be monitored throughout its life and while in tuning. $300+/-
They do not make an A pillar pod for the 90-93 Accord however they have universal ones. In my opinion they look like sh!t. The pillar pod for a 94-01 Integra fits very well and looks awesome with a little reforming with a heat gun. You can go this route or others but those two gauges at least are a must.
You will need to contact a tuner in your area to tune an ECU. You will need to provide a tuneable ECU and the tuner you choose will ask you questions about what you have done to the car and based on your answers he will recommend an ECU. A P06 ECU from a Civic is likely his response. Since every tuner is different I cant really advise you any further on tuning. He will tell you exactly what will need to be done all you have to do is ask him.
The F22A turboed stock with the factory 16G turbo settings will produce 180-210whp. About the same as the H22 swap. However with the build I listed above its very possible to see numbers as high as 250whp to 275whp reliably with the boost turned up to 10-12lbs. An old Accord with those numbers will flat scream.
This is a long read I know but a lot of the info needed is here. Any questions on anything further I would be glad to answer. Anything I may need to explain better Id be glad to clarify as well.
There are other options for turbo, however Ebay turbo kits are very risky and are extremely prone to failure. If your looking more for a "kit" I can guide you in that direction as well.