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post #1 of 45 Old 12-30-2013, 11:36 AM Thread Starter
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2014 Coupe EX-L, H11 or H11b?

I'm confused, what does our car use for low beam? H11 or h11b?
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Halogen - H11

HID - H11b

The "b" indicates that the HID capsule return wire is rotated 180 degrees when compared to an H11 capsule. The Honda reflector works better with an H11b.
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One of the best mods I did to my car, going with H9 instead of H11, the difference is incredible for the price.

I tried the HID kit route, got rid of it, because of blinding on-coming cars/drivers.

I purchased THESE from Home Depot.

I cut the tab with a razor knife (Box Cutter) look at THIS for what I'm talking about.

Trust me you will be very happy with the H9 vs H11.
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H11"B" specifically if you end up buying from TRS (sold under their XB35 moniker). For whatever reason, other aftermarket vendors (including DDM, and even quite a few generic eBay ones) had the return wire in the correct orientation for their plain H11 bulbs; which goes to show the quality control in aftermarket parts.

Husker's alternative recommendation is solid, though, and worth pursuing if you value true night time visibility and safety.

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One of the best mods I did to my car, going with H9 instead of H11, the difference is incredible for the price.

I tried the HID kit route, got rid of it, because of blinding on-coming cars/drivers.

I purchased THESE from Home Depot.

I cut the tab with a razor knife (Box Cutter) look at THIS for what I'm talking about.

Trust me you will be very happy with the H9 vs H11.
Truly one of the cheapest and best gains for the money on lighting there is for us non/anti HID folks.

Best improvement for night driving there is. Pretty safe also. You will like it for sure and there is a big difference especially if you go to a Silverstar or Piaa bulb. But even a plain Jane bulb gives you great benefits with little fuss or expense.
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I love my new xb35/zenex ballast setup. For less than a hundred bucks the difference is night and day seriously.
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One of the best mods I did to my car, going with H9 instead of H11, the difference is incredible for the price.

I tried the HID kit route, got rid of it, because of blinding on-coming cars/drivers.

I purchased THESE from Home Depot.

I cut the tab with a razor knife (Box Cutter) look at THIS for what I'm talking about.

Trust me you will be very happy with the H9 vs H11.
All you did was cut off the top tab from the H9 bulb as shown in the picture from the other thread. Also, how "white" are your low beams when looking at your car straight on?

Not sure if I should go this route again as I did on my 2008 Accord or go HIDs which I would love to try.

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All you did was cut off the top tab from the H9 bulb as shown in the picture from the other thread. Also, how "white" are your low beams when looking at your car straight on?

Not sure if I should go this route again as I did on my 2008 Accord or go HIDs which I would love to try.
Yep, Just cut the tab. They are very bright and the cutoff is below on coming drivers windshields.

HID is brighter, but ,the only way to do it right is very expensive.
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All you did was cut off the top tab from the H9 bulb as shown in the picture from the other thread. Also, how "white" are your low beams when looking at your car straight on?

Not sure if I should go this route again as I did on my 2008 Accord or go HIDs which I would love to try.
Yep, cut off the tab but file it down so that it is smooth and flat, making it easier to install the plug back in.

It is a bit whiter than the stock H11 halogens, but don't expect anywhere near HID color temperatures. The best way to describe it is that the intensity is much higher.

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Yep, Just cut the tab. They are very bright and the cutoff is below on coming drivers windshields.

HID is brighter, but ,the only way to do it right is very expensive.
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Yep, cut off the tab but file it down so that it is smooth and flat, making it easier to install the plug back in.

It is a bit whiter than the stock H11 halogens, but don't expect anywhere near HID color temperatures. The best way to describe it is that the intensity is much higher.
For the price for improved light, I will give these a shot. Thanks

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H11b, the HID makes the car looks more luxury
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All you did was cut off the top tab from the H9 bulb as shown in the picture from the other thread. Also, how "white" are your low beams when looking at your car straight on?

Not sure if I should go this route again as I did on my 2008 Accord or go HIDs which I would love to try.
You should try the All Star Kit mentioned elsewhere here. If you want HIDs, then you will be disappointed with the H9. It just gives you more of the yellowish halogen light. You don't get that white blanket of light that xenons give. Plus you'll be replacing the H9 bulbs very often. Their life is a fraction of a normal H11. So if you're gonna go that route, buy a 6 pack

My Accord now looks like an Acura or Lexus or BMW or something. <$100 for the All Star Kit, plus $10 for some LED replacements for the license plate lights and all interior lights.

Just try the HIDs if that's what you want. Don't listen to the naysayers on here who tell you the only CORRECT way is a full projector retrofit. They are technically correct but PRACTICALLY-speaking our projectors are fine for swapping in the HID bulb. They are worried about the last 1% of perfection. I am happy with the 99% of HID goodness that I have without spending a lot of time and MONEY to get that last 1%.....
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You should try the All Star Kit mentioned elsewhere here. If you want HIDs, then you will be disappointed with the H9. It just gives you more of the yellowish halogen light. You don't get that white blanket of light that xenons give. Plus you'll be replacing the H9 bulbs very often. Their life is a fraction of a normal H11. So if you're gonna go that route, buy a 6 pack

My Accord now looks like an Acura or Lexus or BMW or something. <$100 for the All Star Kit, plus $10 for some LED replacements for the license plate lights and all interior lights.

Just try the HIDs if that's what you want. Don't listen to the naysayers on here who tell you the only CORRECT way is a full projector retrofit. They are technically correct but PRACTICALLY-speaking our projectors are fine for swapping in the HID bulb. They are worried about the last 1% of perfection. I am happy with the 99% of HID goodness that I have without spending a lot of time and MONEY to get that last 1%.....
Wait until you have to drive at night in a heavy snowstorm or fog. As you're being blinded by your own headlights that "last 1%" is going to feel a lot more important.

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You should try the All Star Kit mentioned elsewhere here. If you want HIDs, then you will be disappointed with the H9. It just gives you more of the yellowish halogen light. You don't get that white blanket of light that xenons give. Plus you'll be replacing the H9 bulbs very often. Their life is a fraction of a normal H11. So if you're gonna go that route, buy a 6 pack

My Accord now looks like an Acura or Lexus or BMW or something. <$100 for the All Star Kit, plus $10 for some LED replacements for the license plate lights and all interior lights.

Just try the HIDs if that's what you want. Don't listen to the naysayers on here who tell you the only CORRECT way is a full projector retrofit. They are technically correct but PRACTICALLY-speaking our projectors are fine for swapping in the HID bulb. They are worried about the last 1% of perfection. I am happy with the 99% of HID goodness that I have without spending a lot of time and MONEY to get that last 1%.....
That's funny. Your so called last "1%" is what allows proper HID projectors to shine light far down the road, and wide down the sides - not down, directly into the foreground, right in front of you, as the optics of the halogen projectors are designed to do. Since you claimed in the "all star" thread that you don't do a lot of night time driving (let alone, be far from home), I would suggest you not make bold statements about "practicality" that could at best prove to be unhelpful, and at worst, be a serious detriment.

I can tell you, from personal experience, that your money saving "all star kit" is a hazard in poor weather conditions - not to mention just general night time driving on completely unlit roads, where your own headlights are your only (blinding) source of light. Try to see if you can find the white dashed lines when it is pouring rain, or in a blizzard, on a highway with other drivers, who also share your sentiments to mismatch HID bulbs and halogen reflectors/projectors. Hopefully you didn't get the bright idea to put in color matching HID's or non-functional LED's in your fog lights when driving in those conditions either.

It's comical you mention replacing the H9 bulbs often - I'm at the 3 month mark and both bulbs are still holding up fine. At $6-7 a pop, per bulb, they aren't really cheap, but it's not exactly going to put you in the red either if you have to change them out once or twice a year. Sure the OEM rated lifespan is quite low, but you are also depending on your aftermarket HID bulbs to hold up to the OEM spec'd lifespans as well. Whether if you trust them that much is entirely up to you, but I would certainly put my money on the likes of Philips or Sylvania/Osram then... wait, who makes TRS's bulbs again?

In the end, a true HID kit is more than just a pretty flood of white light, and a cutoff line. Your kit may look like it came from an Acura/Lexus/BMW, but it certainly does not perform like them.

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I was also looking at the All Star Kit but for the price of the H9s, I can also get other LEDs for my car + front seat WeatherTech mats. I did have H9s before and they lasted close to 4 years, but was weighing my options again.

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