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post #1 of 26 Old 03-10-2017, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
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No stranger to the forums, been a regular on the 7th gen for a good 10 years. Was locked out, so my username lives on as "V2".

Now I've possibly moved to the 9th gen as I Just put a deposit on a 2017 Sport SE 6MT in San Marino red.

Now a couple of questions before I bite the bullet here. I have drove the CVT and was plenty satisfied, but there are no 6MT ones nearby to test drive. I really would like a 6MT combo, but for those 6MT owners, how does it perform at cruising speeds? Where do the RPMs sit a lets say 75-80? Does it drone? Reason I ask is my Kizashi sits at 3K plus over 80 and the engine NHV starts to make it's way into the cabin. I don't want that.

Like to get a feel before I make the journey to pick up the Accord.

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75-80 it's right under 3k but the engine is smooth and doesn't drone. The 6MT makes a big difference with the 2.4. Get your SMR 6MT that will be a peach of a ride

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75-80 it's right under 3k but the engine is smooth and doesn't drone. The 6MT makes a big difference with the 2.4. Get your SMR 6MT that will be a peach of a ride

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You probably have an I4? My V6 5AT at 75-80 is at 2200-2300.

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Yes we're talking about manual sedans so only i4 no V6 overlords need apply

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I believe the I4-6MT cranks 2,150 rpm at 60 mph. That means about 2,700 rpm at 75 mph and 2,900 rpm at 80 mph. (I believe the CVT is around 2,300 rpm at 80 mph). While the 6MT’s gearing is not low by today's standard, it is still very acceptable. This forum has some very picky, oh I’m sorry, discriminant drivers. And while many would prefer a longer 6th gear for better fuel economy, I’ve read ZERO complaints about highway drone. On the subject of fuel economy, the 6MT will get about 1-2 fewer mpg highway. (At 80 mph, the CVT might get 37 mpg and the 6MT 35 mpg.) However the upside to the 6MT on the highway is far better speed control. If you need to change speed for a lane change or to maintain speed going up a hill, having the rpm slightly higher AND having the throttle plate directly connect to the wheels (no torque converter or pulley belt adjustments), throttle response is much more immediate with the 6MT.

If you are concerned about drone, can you test drive a CVT and somehow hold the rpm at 3,000 at 80 mph? (Can the paddle shifter do that?)
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No drone on stock configuration and "Sport" exhaust system. Remember how the CVT felt, and then start your 1st drive with econ on when you find/get the manual. LOL, you want to do this to slowly ease your way into the transition of night and day. Going from CVT to 6MT you will spin 1st off idle alone w/o econ on. I got into the Accord thinking you have to rev the hell out of it to get decent tq so I was sold before I got out the lot for test drive.

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It's a really good drive, smooth quite. I read the shifter was stiffened, so it has no play. Only complaints are wind noise, and no shoulder bolstering to keep you snug.
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My 6MT is relatively quiet at cruising speeds. I haven't seen many red Sport models, let alone manual ones. Go for it!
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Took almost a year to find a manual Sport and it just happen to be SMR, an SE is unicorn in manual.

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I didnt test drive the manual before ordering it, but i have heard nothing but great things about the manual transmission in Accords. I have had 3 Si's so i trust Honda completely. I wonder how similar/different they are. Pretty cool knowing how rare these are. Makes me feel even better about my decision. I was torn between WOP and SMR. The only reason i went WOP was because i always wanted a white car with a black roof.
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The CVT with the 2.4 is nothing special and in fact disappointing. You're going to like the 6MT. In 2013, I was lucky enough to snag a 2014 LX sedan 6MT in MSM - and it's replacement, a 2016 sport in san marino with the 6MT was a no brainer. After 12 years of driving Honda manual transmissions, this one is the best yet. Hopefully not the last!

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I didnt test drive the manual before ordering it, but i have heard nothing but great things about the manual transmission in Accords. I have had 3 Si's so i trust Honda completely. I wonder how similar/different they are. Pretty cool knowing how rare these are. Makes me feel even better about my decision. I was torn between WOP and SMR. The only reason i went WOP was because i always wanted a white car with a black roof.
Yours will be more rare indeed. I wanted a WOP, but was not willing to wait a few weeks until one could be located. Opted for the red instead!
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My first Honda with an MT was 1981, and we got rid of the last Honda with an MT in 2015.

They have all been excellent boxes.

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Thank you all for the replies.

I was concerned from this review:

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I would vouch for quiet motor noise with 2014 Sport 6MT in either 5th or 6th gear cruising. Never noticed any 'droning' and I mostly ride with music low or off. Certainly a much more engaging drive, being able to row through the gears yourself
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Thank you all for the replies.

I was concerned from this review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkyLK8LiBY
What concerned you with that review? There's a few areas I could blindly attack and hope it is helpful.

Lack of features is what makes the Sport that more enjoyable IMHO. You can upgrade to the EX to gain more features but you lose out on a bit of what makes the Sport a Sport. Online I added the side skirts, trunk lip, and accessory wheels making the price of the car 1 car payment short of just getting the EX-L. Only feature I miss from my previous car is exterior trunk button. It would be a lie if I said I wouldn't want XM and Apple CarPlay but I can't stand the radio layout and the rest of the features.

7th gear for less buzzy level, I'm not sure what to take of that besides a rattle of sunglasses holder and child anchor covers when child seats are in the car. Even at 80 mph in 6th gear the engine is quiet. I would totally love a 7th gear for freeway MPG as long as it didn't make 1st gear shift be like 12 mph or something crazy. Maybe the guy is riding 4th gear in the 46 MPH range instead of shifting? Only noise I could complain of is the tires after 1200 miles or so. The tan concrete used on some roads and bridges produce a tire howl at 30 MPH or higher speeds I haven't gotten from other cars with cheaper in comparison tires.

Only feature that may get you mad is those 3 buttons on the bottom left of the wheel and text reply feature. I'll end the rant there.

One of the reviews I used and can semi validate was this one partially since it's literally the identical car I got.




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