I have finally narrowed my oil choices to Castrol 5w20 regular oil or Motorcraft 5w20 synthetic blend, or possibly Mobil 1. Note my honda dealer said they use mobil 1 regular, not synthetic oil. But I couldn't find mobil 1 at any of my town's suppliers and I want to change in the next day or so.

PLEASE rate these three oils in order of preference for my honda accord v6. b

Thanks and this will be my last motor oil question.

I got Mobil 1 5-20w full synth from PepBoys, I dunno why you are having such trouble locating it :)

We use Castrol & have for many many years without problems. If you want the stats on oil check out bobstheoilguy site.

Our belief is that synthetics are wonderful, but not worth the extra funds IF you're planning to change the fluids every 5K or so anyway.

Both Castrol and Motorcraft are great oils. Buy the cheaper one...sometimes Castrol GTX can be had for under 2 bucks

I've used Castrol GTX for 40k miles. No problems, and when my engine was serviced and all the seals were replaced, the tech commented on how well all the internals have held up.

It's doing something right I guess!

I actually have a simple question on oil too, might as well just post it here. :wave: Ok my 95' EX requires 5w30 or 10w30, and a friend of mine tod me to put 10w40 in since my car has high mileage, BTW, she has 139k, so should I keep using 10w40 or should I go back to 10w30? Oh one more thing, which one is better? Mobile Clean high mileage or Castrol High Mileage? Or which kind is actually the best for her?

I actually have a simple question on oil too, might as well just post it here. :wave: Ok my 95' EX requires 5w30 or 10w30, and a friend of mine tod me to put 10w40 in since my car has high mileage, BTW, she has 139k, so should I keep using 10w40 or should I go back to 10w30? Oh one more thing, which one is better? Mobile Clean high mileage or Castrol High Mileage? Or which kind is actually the best for her?
Run 5W-20 Motorcraft, 145K miles and that's what I use and it burns about the same as 10W-40 Castrol GTX. And I am not a believer in the "High Mileage" oils :yes:

I have finally narrowed my oil choices to Castrol 5w20 regular oil or Motorcraft 5w20 synthetic blend, or possibly Mobil 1. Note my honda dealer said they use mobil 1 regular, not synthetic oil. But I couldn't find mobil 1 at any of my town's suppliers and I want to change in the next day or so.


Check walmart I bought mobil 1 syn 5w-20 for $23 for 5 qt jug.

But yea, so 5w30, 10w30 or 10w40? Oh does it harm my oil pump if I use thicker oil?

IOk my 95' EX requires 5w30 or 10w30, and a friend of mine tod me to put 10w40 in since my car has high mileage, BTW, she has 139k, so should I keep using 10w40 or should I go back to 10w30

If your engine doesn't leak or consume lots of oil between oil changes, you could stay with the grade of oil that got you to this point. If you have to keep topping up between intervals, you could try a thicker oil or the high-mileage oils. In addition to having a seal conditioner, the HM oils usually have more detergents and additives and are usually a little thicker than the same weight conventional oils.

Some have had success stopping or slowing leaks with Castrol and Pennzoil HM oils, others haven't. I'm currently trying to stop a slow weep from the rear main seal of my daughters Protege with Valvoline Maxlife. If it doesn't work, I'm trying the Castrol HM next. I don't have to add any oil between 4K changes, but I'd sure like to stop it before it becomes worse.

BTW, I'm still running 5w20 currently in my Accord. This is what Honda spec'd for my LX back in December of 2000. See Sig for mileage.

Allright I got it. Thanks for the opinions!!

We use Castrol & have for many many years without problems. If you want the stats on oil check out bobstheoilguy site.

Our belief is that synthetics are wonderful, but not worth the extra funds IF you're planning to change the fluids every 5K or so anyway.

agree 100%
i would never use synthetic, and i am obsessed with maintnince i change my oil every 3k never go over it by more than 400 miles :thmsup:
and it still costs less. :thmsup:

i do use some lucas oil in mine though. :)

I would suggest Amsoils new 0W20, it is a PAO based oil. I am planning to start using it once my supply of Amsoil XL5W20 is finished..

what about elf oil my bro uses it for his tdi? any one ever used it on a gasser?

I’m in the middle of my second Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 fill. The first fill went 10,000miles. I’m closing on 5000miles on this fill and going strong. I run the Honda S2000 filter bought in batches of 5 for $5.00 each.

What did you use before the first run of PP. Did you notice better anything or everything after you put your first batch of PP in?

I strongly 'feel' that all 5W-20 oil is good stuff (See Bobistheoilguy.com for details). PP lets me run extended drain intervals in 90% hiway driving. That's NOTHING beyound what Honda recomends for the 2.4 I4 in my type of driving conditions.

The motor will run better when you hit 10K miles or more.

So to reopen this thread, and get some input from Ben and others - is that Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W20 really decent stuff? I went to get a couple of filters at WalMart today for the '07 Freestyle (motorcraft ones for under 4 bucks - not bad), and started putting 6 quarts of Castrol syn blend in my cart, and noticed the Motorcraft syn blend in both a 5-quart bottle and 1 quart bottle. What struck me was the cost. Most syn blends are like $3.60-ish per quart. The motorcraft blend was $2.49 per quart, and only $10.50 for a 5 quart bottle. Yikes!!! :notworthy For that price, if it's decent, I'll start running that in the Hondas as well!!! (my OCI's are about 3000-3500 miles)

Comments?

andy

So to reopen this thread, and get some input from Ben and others - is that Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W20 really decent stuff? I went to get a couple of filters at WalMart today for the '07 Freestyle (motorcraft ones for under 4 bucks - not bad), and started putting 6 quarts of Castrol syn blend in my cart, and noticed the Motorcraft syn blend in both a 5-quart bottle and 1 quart bottle. What struck me was the cost. Most syn blends are like $3.60-ish per quart. The motorcraft blend was $2.49 per quart, and only $10.50 for a 5 quart bottle. Yikes!!! :notworthy For that price, if it's decent, I'll start running that in the Hondas as well!!! (my OCI's are about 3000-3500 miles)

Comments?

andy

Andy,
Motorcraft Syn blends are exceptional ESPECIALLY considering the price. You simply can not go wrong running them at a 5K interval. If it was available here I would abandon Mobil1 completely. Go for it,top notch oil at at bargain basement prices.

Andy,
Motorcraft Syn blends are exceptional ESPECIALLY considering the price. You simply can not go wrong running them at a 5K interval. If it was available here I would abandon Mobil1 completely. Go for it,top notch oil at at bargain basement prices.
+1 :thmsup:

When AA stops having BOGO sales on their Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic oil, and I run out of my supply of oil, I'm going to get some motorcraft,

- is that Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W20 really decent stuff? andyI run the Motorcraft 5W-20 with a Motorcraft filter in my daughter’s 2000 Focus ZX3 Z-TEC 5-speed manual with 5000 mile change intervals.

On a side note, I performed some maintenance on my son's 1999 DOHC Neon 5-speed manual last month.

I replaced the spark plugs, wires, A/F, 5W-30 Maxlife (120,000 miles) with a Purolator oil filter. I also had to replace the coolant temperature sensor because it was throwing a code and replaced the valve cover gasket and the leaking sparkplug tube o-rings since the spark plug tubes were full of oil! Anyway, the top end of the little Neon motor was perfect! No sludge anywhere to be seen; it looked new! And the compression test showed between 170-180Psi.

+1 :thmsup:

When AA stops having BOGO sales on their Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic oil, and I run out of my supply of oil, I'm going to get some motorcraft,

To AndySinnh: YES! Use the Motorcraft without fear...it is an excellent oil at an excellent price.

SSMV6, almost the same here. I also have a big stash of the BOGO PP oil from AA, still about 50 quarts I think. But I will continue using it (probably, pending UOA) as long as I can get it BOGO. If not, it may be back to Motorcraft, which is what I was using to begin with.

Well sounds like there are a few Motorcraft Syn Blend endorsements on here, my only question is what would be the recomended OCI with this?

Well sounds like there are a few Motorcraft Syn Blend endorsements on here, my only question is what would be the recomended OCI with this?

Gosh, that's the $64K question. It depends on your driving conditions, environment, style, etc. For me I ran the MC on the V6 out to about 5000-5500 miles...that's as far as I was willing to take it. The first and only UOA I did came back great. (Now using PP.)

As a very general rule, 5000 miles is a good OCI. It's longer than the typically wasteful 3K change, but it's not so long that you have much chance of over-stressing the oil and add packs.

Now if you are flogging the hell out of it with lots of WOT, high-rpms, racing, high-heat operations, dirty/dusty environment, towing and hauling a lot, etc., then I'd change it sooner.

The best way to know for sure is to do a few UOAs and see how it measures and trends.

Gosh, that's the $64K question. It depends on your driving conditions, environment, style, etc. For me I ran the MC on the V6 out to about 5000-5500 miles...that's as far as I was willing to take it. The first and only UOA I did came back great. (Now using PP.)

As a very general rule, 5000 miles is a good OCI. It's longer than the typically wasteful 3K change, but it's not so long that you have much chance of over-stressing the oil and add packs.

Now if you are flogging the hell out of it with lots of WOT, high-rpms, racing, high-heat operations, dirty/dusty environment, towing and hauling a lot, etc., then I'd change it sooner.

The best way to know for sure is to do a few UOAs and see how it measures and trends.

THANKS, going out to buy and fill right now.. can't wait for the smooth feel a fresh OC affords!!!

After doing a bit of reading on BITOG I decided to go with the motorcraft syn blend.

I got the MC for 2.49 a qt, m1 was 6.09. No 5gal of 5-20 anywhere around here. NICE SAVINGS:thumbsup:

I used the m1 filter, going to get OE next OC. I do high 90% hwy and am going to do 5500 OCI's.

Might as well get a few UOA’s as suggested.

You're good with that OCI and driving style. I agree with several UOA's to establish a trend. Were it me, I would go 3000 miles into the next oil change with Motorcraft and pull the 1st UOA sample. That way any remnants of previous oil should be gone so as to not skew the results.

I've used Castrol GTX for 40k miles. No problems, and when my engine was serviced and all the seals were replaced, the tech commented on how well all the internals have held up.

It's doing something right I guess!

Can you explained why you had to have the seals replaced at 40k miles? I have had cars with close to 200k miles and NEVER had to replace any seals (J30T, G20 and numerous Accords.) I would be interested to know why. Thanks:dunno:

agree 100%
i would never use synthetic, and i am obsessed with maintnince i change my oil every 3k never go over it by more than 400 miles :thmsup:
and it still costs less. :thmsup:

i do use some lucas oil in mine though. :)

Assuming you are doing your own changes and they cost you only for the oil and filter, lets do an analysis of cost.

162K/3K=54 oil changes 54X5qts=270 (67.5 gallons!!) 270X$.99=$267.30 (you did only pay .99 a quart right?)

Now add $5 per filter times 54 filters=$270 For a total of $537.30

NOW lets go my route
'89 Peugeot 405 S w/156K miles (no seal replacements)
AMSOIL 0W30
156K/25K=6 oil changes 6X5qts=30 (7.5 gallons!!) 30X$8.50=$255.00

Now add $15 per filter times 6 filters=$90 For a total of $345.00

I am challenging your "it still costs less" statement compared to synthetic. Now factor in the costs of disposing of over a barrel of oil, the stress on the environment, and having to change your oil 5 times a year, and you have a good argument to switch to synthetic and use extended drain intervals!

Motorcraft=Citgo=Venezuela=President Chavez=American Hater

Buy your Motorcraft and help support terrorism.

Motorcraft=Citgo=Venezuela=President Chavez=American Hater

Buy your Motorcraft and help support terrorism.

Gasoline=Oil=Middle East

Drive your car and support terrorism...

What a useless post :thumbsdow

Motorcraft=Citgo=Venezuela=President Chavez=American Hater

Buy your Motorcraft and help support terrorism.
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Agreed, that's the dumbest thing I've seen here in a while, congratulations. You'll also need to include Ford Motor Company as American haters since it's their brand of oil. Good grief :rolleyes:

Motorcraft=Citgo=Venezuela=President Chavez=American Hater

Buy your Motorcraft and help support terrorism.


care to elaborate on your outlandish post??

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Agreed, that's the dumbest thing I've seen here in a while, congratulations. You'll also need to include Ford Motor Company as American haters since it's their brand of oil. Good grief :rolleyes:

Say what you want, but Motorcraft engine oil is refined at Citgo Petroleum Group, Lake Charles LA, which is owned 100% by Chavez.

Also he is clear in his support of organizations that want to harm the U.S. Government. Have you not heard of any of this? Why did 7-Eleven drop its contract with Citgo?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/27/ap/business/mainD8KDC0500.shtml

I am not so sure I would go as far as you and slander Ford is a company that hates America, only that Chavez does. Good grief.

Look, I am only saying that as consumers we are ignorant as to where the products we consume come from. We hate that the economy is sagging, jobs are leaving the country, and we are dependent on foreign oil, etc. Yet we drive to the discount store in search of the cheapest products from Mexico and China while burning gas from Iran. Just continue to be happy not knowing. I try to support American companies that pump oil from U.S. soil and companies that make products here.
Sorry for high jacking the thread.

...and we are dependent on foreign oil, etc...while burning gas from Iran...
And yet you bought a V6, obviously you care a lot about burning gas from foreign countries Mr. High and Mighty :thumbsdow

And yet you bought a V6, obviously you care a lot about burning gas from foreign countries Mr. High and Mighty :thumbsdow
Did that make you feel better? I am supposed to feel guilty because I am taking a stand? Mr. V6 Odyssey, get a life.

Did that make you feel better? I am supposed to feel guilty because I am taking a stand? Mr. V6 Odyssey, get a life.

Hey I never said I was concerned about burning foreign oil or using MotorCraft...frankly I don't really care that much. When it's a necessity, there's nothing to debate:lmao:

Its always good to have a thread or 2 like this in the mix. Keeps people logging back in to see what is said next.:yes: :lurk:

MotorCraft oils are via ConocoPhillips, a most American company.

Utilizing all the early morning brain processing I can spare, the following link.
http://www.google.com/search?q=ConocoPhillips+MotorCraft&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Perhaps a little research might have stopped a wee bit of board slop?

bbrowncods,

I would suggest that you look into (you may already do this) purchasing oil from Brad Penn. They are the only mfg that I'm aware of that is American based and utilize USA sourced oil. I don't know about the additive packages they use though.

http://www.amref.com/
http://www.bradpennracing.com/
http://www.amref.com/bp_product_pgs/BPengoils.htm

bbrowncods,

I would suggest that you look into (you may already do this) purchasing oil from Brad Penn. They are the only mfg that I'm aware of that is American based and utilize USA sourced oil. I don't know about the additive packages they use though.

http://www.amref.com/
http://www.bradpennracing.com/
http://www.amref.com/bp_product_pgs/BPengoils.htm

Thanks for the tip! I'll look into it.

BB