I had my transmission replaced because they said it had low pressure something or other. It was replaced at 8k. It had a whining sound when accelerating. Now I notice every shift point.
At 10, 20, 30 and 40mph. When I am accelerating it slightly pulls to the front and then back once it shifts. If I accelerate hard then you really feel the jump. Also when trying to cruise at a little about 40 and I let go of the gas paddle RPMs are at 2000RPM and it stays there and feels like it’s dragging. But if I kind of jerk the gas paddle up to about 3000RPM then it goes down to 1400 or 1500RPM and then it doesn’t feel like its dragging. Also when going down a steep hill RPMs go up to like 3500RPM. I guess it’s supposed to do that but I hate it. I get scared every time. My problem is that when I was getting my tranny replaced I asked the dealer to fix this annoying rattle on the rear right from what sounds like coming from the trunk or underneath the car. After I picked it up there was no paperwork about the rattle and so naturally I asked them and they knew nothing about it. So I complained to US Honda Corp and they told me that the dealer does not want you to come back to him because I was rude. Yes I was upset but I wasn’t rude. So it came down to that that dealer is responsible for this tranny because they replaced it but I can’t complain. US Honda Corp told me to prove first if my tranny is bad at another dealer then they can make them responsible. So now I hate this tranny and don’t have a clue how to proof this. What are your thoughts guys?

my thoughts are you presumably have a car that is still under warranty (including the replaced transmission and regardless of who the dealer was that replaced it) I would take it to some other dealer and have it looked at. Honda is still on the hook if additional corrective work is required. The last thing I would want is to have the original dealer playing with it any further.

Why don't you do us all a favor and warn us what dealer you used so we can avoid them???

;)

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Welcome to the group, lvilench!

The "proof" could be the work order written up to do the swap. If you have your copy it should say WHY they replaced the tranny. They can only do a swap if it meets the requirements.

illiniguy is right that all dealers are responsible to honor the warranty. Having an '04 you should be able to go to another one even if it means starting over! You really don't want to deal with that one anyway if they are so........

Look in the bulletin area & see if the noise is the rear deck one listed. Actually, look through all the bulletins for the '04. Print out what you've noticed & take them with you when you go some place else.

Keep us posted!

Your problems sound pretty normal. I haven't driven any 7th gen Accords but from my experience, Honda automatics tend to be a little bit rougher than Toyota. The high RPM's on hills is normal - grade logic. The 2000RPM dragging sensation is probably also normal - tranny doesn't want to shift because the RPM is already so low, it knows it will need to be at about that RPM if you ever get back on the gas. I agree with the gang though, go to a different dealer. Also since yours was replaced due to low pressure, ask the new dealer to check for anything unusual like blocked passages. Change the tranny fluid as well.

Isn't grade logic supposed to so the car can shift smoothly. I mean do you guys feel the shifts, because my last car was a Pontiac Bonneville and while driving normally I never felt anything and this was a 12 year old car. I always have to look at the tachometer and accelerate so I can be in the lowest gear and wont feel the dragging. I don't know guys I don't know what I was thinking when I bought a Honda.

I cant find any tbs or anything about the rear sound. This only happened when I go over bumps. Today it was really bad. It sounded like its coming from the rear drivers side door. Like something lifting and slamming down on bumps. I have no trust with dealers. They fix what they want to fix and not what I ask. If its something like the tranny then yea sure they get money for that, but something like sounds and rattles. Even if you beg them they wont do it. I even tried to pay to them to fix rattle they wouldn't do it. LOSers!!!.

Oh and guess what guys the rear defroster timer that's advertised on the Honda website does not exist. There is no timer. This is no big deal but this is a straight out lie.

Another thing my seat shifts every time I brake somewhat hard. Some guy on Edmunds forum had his whole seat frame replaced cause of this. I went to 3 dealers and all told me that's its supposed to shift. I'm sorry but no other car I ever had had its seat shifting. ( And iv had my share of junk)

Can someone recommend a dealer that is good at fixing cars and that is nice to his costumers and that I can trust. I really need this info before my warranty expires.

I live in Brooklyn, NY but I guess im willing to travel to get things done properly.

Thanks for reading, I'm just pissed off.

I bumped 4 bulletins to the top of the factory direct list. See if they apply, print & take them with you next time you go to a dealer. (2 tranny, 1 seat, 1 rattle)

Granted Hondas have some issues going on, but so do ALL the other brands. You'd probably been dealing with something no matter what you bought.

Most people like feeling the shift which why many companies have some sort of "sport shift" option. If you think yours is abnormal for your year/model then go drive another one. Since a small percentage actually have a faulty tranny, it would be an easy way to know what's normal. Less hassle than having your car torn apart again!

If you're there when the work order is written up for your car, then only that work is done. The tech can only go by whatever is written. You have to be specific the person writing it up isn't usually a tech. Ask to see what they put down. Have them make whatever corrections needed. Kinda like how they ask us to list all of our symptoms when we have a Drs appt. The more info, the easier it is to find the problem(s).

There's several bulletins for the '04's, most are little annoyances. It doesn't mean they have more problems, it means they found some solutions!:)

Good luck!

I thank you for your reply. BUT I have been dealing with this car from day 5 after I got it.

Let me ask your something if a TSB does not list my VIN or Year but lists 2003 models, can I still bring up the problem with my dealer. See im now at the point where im afraid to say something wrong to the dealers, just in case they decide to reject me from any future visits.

Grade logic is not supposed to make the car shift smooth, it's supposed to make it shift smart. The seat movement was an issue on 6th gens, it is probably an issue with a few 7th gens as well. If you don't ask the dealer to fix it, then it will never be fixed. All work done on rattles and other noises are considered warranty work. Look in your area for another dealer, nobody here lives in New York as far as I know so we can't tell you anywhere to bring it unless you want to drive cross-country.

Your VIN not being listed does not mean you don't have the problem. They know that. Take it anyway. The fix would be the same if the problems the same, VIN or no VIN.

It's still a warranty issue!

Our Accord wasn't on the VIN list for the fuel pump thing, but it still had the problem.

A DEALER can (but it's rare) refuse to work on a car who's owner is deemed rude or whatever, but HONDA can't. So any other dealer can take it on.

If you find other issues that you've experienced in the Factory Direct area, print them. Tell the dealer you need these all fixed. On the Honda.com they have a fax# & you can send them a copy of the work order about the tranny after you have it checked out again.

Unfortunately we live in a "cover your butt" world & the first place isn't going to manage an honest assessment.... in my opinion. So step 2 should be using another dealer. They aren't all bad! And even the bad ones sometimes have decent techs!

Staying calm will get you further!! ;)

I am the guy from Edmunds that had the Driver's power seat frame changed because of shifting during hard braking. I have given all the info on the symptons and how to demonstrate the problem. After I rode with the tech, I had no problem from the dealer concerning the seat shift. I have also had my front brake pads rpeolaced and rotors turned even though my car is not on the VIN list. Dealer attitude was if I am experiencing it, then it is a problem. I have not always been happy with my dealer or the car, but if a problem is real, can be accuratley and politely described, it usually gets fixed. good point about the Service writer not being a tech. I always double check the writeup to make sure it reflects what I said. I'm on the East Coast but not near NY. No help on a reputable dealer. I am sure some must exist in the NYC area.

I went to the dealer about the sound coming from the rear/trunk area. They found the problem. It was a door edge guard hitting a qeuter panel. They told me it was installed improperly. Explained to me that i need to take it to the dealer where i bought this car from. This accesory was installed before the car was delivered to me. I want them to fix it and they wont. Am i wrong? Please let me know

I would think that you are correct. Honda accessories are warrantied including installation if the dealer installed them. Honda warranty. However, they may have a point too. I will be interested to see what Princess has to say about this.

My dad just had to take his Tacoma back to the dealer b/c they didn't install the digital clock. Another dealer did it. No problem.

The part is what is has the HONDA warranty, the install or labor is from the place thsat did it. Many dealers would take care of it as a "good will" gesture, but they don't HAVE to.

If you had a new window put in your house that leaked air because of improper installation, you couldn't expect another company to redo the install for free & the manufacturer of the window isn't the one in error. You'd call the person that installed it, right?

The door's bead of sealant was not trimmed for the install of the edge guard... common mistake.

These guards created paint damage on the quarter panel. Its pretty deep. It went beyond the primer. Should the dealer be responsible for this damage?

Another thing. I heard that accessories are only warranted for 12 000 miles, but if the car had them on before delivery then its covered for 3 years 36 months. Is that true?

These guard were given to me as a present from the dealer along with mud guards. I never asked for them, so they are not on my receipt. At the time I was happy they did it, but now I might have trouble proofing that they put them on. I have an appointment from dealer where I got the car. I hope they will be nicer to me then others.

On another Note.

I went and pretended I was going to buy another accord and so I got to test drive one. The transmission shifted nothing like mine and their was no dragging feeling it was so smooth I almost cried that my car isn't like that.

Drivers seat didn't move no matter how hard I stepped on the brakes.

There were no rattles anywhere.


But there was the clicking sound when shifting in reverse (just like on my car) and this didn't happened every time. I am starting to think they are all like that.

Its been to many times for them to try to fix the tranny so I sent a 4 page letter and explanation of what I want to a lemon law lawyer and to Corp Honda.

Well, will see what happened after I visit my very own dealer.
Ill post something after that visit.
They better not try to bullshit me and tell the tranny is fine, because to me its not fine, compared to another car. What should i do if they say its fine and they dont see the difference?

1. Yes, the dealer is responsible for things they put on....with or without your picking them out.

2. Yes, I do believe the 12 month vs. 36 month warranty is true.

3. Ask one of the service advisors or a tech to go a ride with you in your car & in a new one on the lot to explain what you feel/hear in the tranny.

Keep us posted!

Sorry guys for raising this old thread but I'm having the same hard shifting problem in my 2006 Accord V6 and it's really annoying !!

Do you have any clue what might be the problem ?

Has the trans had a drain/fill with new honda fluid yet? Are all the shifts hard? Only happens when cold? Need more info.

Has the trans had a drain/fill with new honda fluid yet? Are all the shifts hard? Only happens when cold? Need more info.

Yes I've just replaced the ATF last month but unfortunately nothing has changed. Shifting is hard in all gears and times; no matter if it's hot or cold!

My problem is exactly the same as lvilench has described his.

I'm not sure how long you've had your Accord, but you should know that firm shifts are a Honda trait in comparison to other carmakers. So you might want to re-evaluate your symptoms by finding another 06 V6 to drive. Next idea is to get it into the dealership, because your car has a 5 year/ 60k mile power-train warranty. Hopefully you're still within it, but even if not, still get it in there, because if you do need a new trans honda might just pay for it. I see you have some mods; if any are mechanical you might be out of luck.

I'm not sure how long you've had your Accord, but you should know that firm shifts are a Honda trait in comparison to other carmakers. So you might want to re-evaluate your symptoms by finding another 06 V6 to drive. Next idea is to get it into the dealership, because your car has a 5 year/ 60k mile power-train warranty. Hopefully you're still within it, but even if not, still get it in there, because if you do need a new trans honda might just pay for it. I see you have some mods; if any are mechanical you might be out of luck.

Actually my accord is a 2nd hand. I bought it last year with 48k in it and now it has about 70k. About the comparison, my previous car was a 2004 accord V6 and believe me its shifting was not like the 06's at all.. it was much smoother !!

I will try to replace the ATF again like you said but I’m still afraid that it won’t solve the problem.

Actually my accord is a 2nd hand. I bought it last year with 48k in it and now it has about 70k. About the comparison, my previous car was a 2004 accord V6 and believe me its shifting was not like the 06's at all !!

I will try to replace the ATF again like you said but I’m still afraid that it won’t solve the problem.

I don't think it will solve anything. OP got a NEW tranny and it was still shifting bad.

I would be looking for worn engine/tranny mounts maybe :dunno:

I would be looking for worn engine/tranny mounts maybe :dunno:

All replaced by new ones and the problem still exist :bawling:

All replaced by new ones and the problem still exist :bawling:

Wow that must have cost a nice chunk of change :notworthy

I had my transmission replaced because they said it had low pressure something or other. It was replaced at 8k. It had a whining sound when accelerating. Now I notice every shift point.
At 10, 20, 30 and 40mph. When I am accelerating it slightly pulls to the front and then back once it shifts. If I accelerate hard then you really feel the jump. Also when trying to cruise at a little about 40 and I let go of the gas paddle RPMs are at 2000RPM and it stays there and feels like it’s dragging. But if I kind of jerk the gas paddle up to about 3000RPM then it goes down to 1400 or 1500RPM and then it doesn’t feel like its dragging. Also when going down a steep hill RPMs go up to like 3500RPM. I guess it’s supposed to do that but I hate it. I get scared every time. My problem is that when I was getting my tranny replaced I asked the dealer to fix this annoying rattle on the rear right from what sounds like coming from the trunk or underneath the car. After I picked it up there was no paperwork about the rattle and so naturally I asked them and they knew nothing about it. So I complained to US Honda Corp and they told me that the dealer does not want you to come back to him because I was rude. Yes I was upset but I wasn’t rude. So it came down to that that dealer is responsible for this tranny because they replaced it but I can’t complain. US Honda Corp told me to prove first if my tranny is bad at another dealer then they can make them responsible. So now I hate this tranny and don’t have a clue how to proof this. What are your thoughts guys?

Let me know what they find. I think I have similar symptoms