2008 Sedan wihout the tape via photoshop

[Shinobi]

Here's what someone else posted from vtec.net. I like the look of this car. And I will definitely be getting one in the second year. I have no doubt the interior will be killer. Honda's have always had slick interiors.

[Shinobi]

and then the rear.

[BenjiBoy650]

The first pic is 100% Hyundai! Looks like a Genesis

[honda761]

If thats how it looks, I'm very pleased I to have the 7th Gen in my garage. Nothing sets this apart from the competition.

[Nimoxp]

Nice. The front looks really strong while the rear looks weak.

[Shinobi]

I don't see the resemblance, besides the Hyundai is still a concept, while the accord is full production. So if there were any comparisons, the Hyundai should be looked as a copy of the Honda. Which it isn't anyway...

[RedSoxHonda3]

wow i can post again. thanks to all. I dont like the rear why would they take the light bar across the trunk and put it back behind the rear glass?

[BenjiBoy650]

No resemblance?? Rectangular headlamps (which will grow bigger on the Hyundai as it goes into production), the trapezoidal grill, the kink in the rear windows, the multi spoke wheels, the fender flares, heck even down to the mirrors look pretty similar...

[gerardb0007]

Can someone photoshop the '08 accord coupe grill on to the sedan? Thanks!

[Trip]

I don't see the resemblance with the Genesis. That's like saying anyone with two eyes, a nose, a mouth looks the same. The Accord's design keeps popping. The longer you look at it the more details pop out. And as someone mentioned, its a production vehicle. The Genesis may loose its only two interesting styling cues: LED headlights and the hood crease that melds into the grill. If anything, I kinda see Toyota Camry in the Genesis with its slim headlights that seem to be mounted high on the nose and the dip at the top of the grill where the Toyota "T" would go.

[stevencrosbie]

I will have to see interior pictures to make my final judgment.


Although, it looks like Honda came up to the plate and hit a bunt instead of a home run. That car will not demand customers like the TL. It just doesn't have eye catching looks....

It doesn't matter to me anyway....my next vehicle is a Toyota Tundra.

[SCABADA]

I feel sorry for anyone who had their hopes up that they'd be excited about what the 8th gen Accord would look like. This is a high volume 4dr family sedan its going to be boring. Its going to look like a lot of other cars. New pedestrian safety rules well limit the overall possible shapes automakers can do so get use to it.

I picked up an Accord because I wanted economical transportation and its doing exactly that (last tank mixed driving 34.88 mpg, no other expenses besides an oil change). I can afford more but would rather have my money going towards other things, and there's a lot of people out there looking for the exact same thing. This car will sell very well, especially if its boring and looks like a lot of other cars.

[BenjiBoy650]

I feel sorry for anyone who had their hopes up that they'd be excited about what the 8th gen Accord would look like. This is a high volume 4dr family sedan its going to be boring.
And so uh...maybe you missed the new Camry SE but cars definitely don't have to be boring :dunno:

[SCABADA]

And so uh...maybe you missed the new Camry SE but cars definitely don't have to be boring :dunno:

Its not bad looking but I don't think its particularly exciting.

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Just wanted to elaborate on this. I have a neighbor a few doors down with an SE in a great looking dark blue color I walk by it all the time when I walk my dog. Its a nicer looking car than my car on the outside. I could really care less about that though I'm happily married and I'm not trying to impress anyone out there with what my car looks like. Last August I could have bought a camry if I wanted to. I do think it looks a little better than the Accord. This wasn't enough to make me want a model in its first year out after a redesign. Sorry to be so boring and practical, but its part of what I like about my Accord.

[Nimoxp]

That angle of the coupe looks sweet.

[AccordEd]

Quite a let down. A 4 door sedan doesn't have to be boring but in this
case it is.

[JPR1959]

If you look at the current Sonata especially the rear, you can tell it's a direct copy of the 2003-2005 Accord. Now you're saying the new Accord looks like a prototype Genesis. Who's copying who??? I'll take an Accord over a Sonata every day of the week.

[buster]

Not a fan of the 08 so far. Don't like the sedan or the coupe. I was hoping the coupe would look really nice because I had planned on possibly buying one. Let down for me so far. Maybe they will look better in person ?

[BenjiBoy650]

If you look at the current Sonata especially the rear, you can tell it's a direct copy of the 2003-2005 Accord. Now you're saying the new Accord looks like a prototype Genesis. Who's copying who??? I'll take an Accord over a Sonata every day of the week.
Lexus has been the best selling luxury car (LS400/430) for a LONG time and guess what? Up until about last year, they copied the MB S-Class design...and look where they are now. Koreans...tellin ya, they're coming ready or not. If Honda doesn't get on the ball and start designing cars that stand out (I would say the Civic is way ahead of the Corolla) and stop using cheap paints and interior plastics they're gonna be sinkin.

[kevinhing]

look at this photo makes me appreciate my '07 more and more every day.

l.e.d tail lights and enkei wheels make me actually want to hold onto my baby for a few more years.

[accordexlv6]

Just noticed after looking at the pictures today that I am really not liking the side window "greenhouse" compared to the 2003-2007.

While I like the straight cut of the rear door sheetmetal cutout next to the wheelhouse, Honda unwisely removed the tightly drawn rear door glass. Instead, they have adopted the ubiquitous "BMW/Nissan kink". To me that is sooo derivative, and quite disappointing. I have always liked the current side-glass profile alot.

The rest is fine... nothing downright ugly, yet nothing that advances four door sedan design. Honda refused to reach at all.

The coupe is a different story. But I am a pragmatist and have kids, so a coupe is not in the cards.

Get ready to hear "Accord the Appliance" even more for the next five years from every critic in the world. The thing better drive like a FWD BMW if it expects to grab any attention at all.

Oh well, maybe the new one in 2013 will be a stunner! :rolleyes:

[Nimoxp]

I think the front of the 08 looks so much better then the 07's. The rear on the other hand is really just lacking. Hope they add a break light on the trunk...or is that a break light inside the rear window.

[namegoeshere]

The first pic is 100% Hyundai! Looks like a Genesis

With the tape off, looking at the first pic the first thing that popped into my head was Toyota Avalon and Infiniti M35/45 because of the larger body size.

Looking at the grille, I thought Cadillac.

I can't believe Honda went radical with the Civic design, yet went conservatively boring with the Accord. Yes, I know that both cars are being targeted at different age groups, but I do see quite a few people in their 40's and 50's driving the new Civic sedans and quite a few youngin's driving Accord sedans. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Then again I have kinda noticed a pattern with Accord designs. The 2nd Gen Accord had, IMO, a simple design. The 3rd Gen Accord design was.... Wow! The 4th Gen Accord was back to simple,... kind of a whatever design IMO. Honda then redeemed themselves (a bit) with the 5th Gen Accord design. With the 6th Gen design, they went conservative again (still don't like it to this day). The 7th Gen was much improved... somewhat sporty-looking even. And now the 8th Gen is back to conservative. Guess that means Honda will be going back to a sporty/fun/exciting design with the 9th Gen Accord then?

[namegoeshere]

Nice. The front looks really strong while the rear looks weak.

Agree about the rear. The rear (particularly the trunk lid area) reminds me of the Ford Crown Victoria for some reason.

[ESHBG]

Koreans...tellin ya, they're coming ready or not.
My appreciation for Hyundai has really grown, as my g/f has an '01 Elantra w/ well over 100K miles now and it has been just as reliable as any Honda I have ever known. Their newer cars are looking better and better IMO and I see the brand really taking off, especially now with Honda coming out with this boring stuff!

And RE: the Genesis, to me it looks like a blend of cars and I see a lot of Camry in the front and some Nissan towards the rear.

If Honda doesn't get on the ball and start designing cars that stand out (I would say the Civic is way ahead of the Corolla) and stop using cheap paints and interior plastics they're gonna be sinkin.
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[chanke4252]

8th gen sedan looks lame. The coupe looks ok, but I'm VERY happy that I have my 7th gen as the 8th gens seem to miss a lot of the details that made the concept attractive. I am anxious to see the next tsx though.

[honda761]

The new Altima just looks so better this this 8th concept.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/calgary2800/alty1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/calgary2800/alty2.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/calgary2800/alty3.jpg

[stevencrosbie]

I agree. The the Altima is a much better looking car.

[stevencrosbie]

The Genesis will have a 300+ hp RWD V8. That car will kill the Accord everyday.

Honda is missing the boat. At least my TL is nice....if I can ever get the dealer to stop the rattles.....

[techstar25]

I was expecting a huge difference, like the current vs. previous gen Civic. The Accord is certainly nothing that radical. I just bought an 07 Accord the other day. It looks like I won't regret it.

[ESHBG]

I agree, the new Altima is awesome! I saw the coupe at the Philly Auto Show and I can't wait to see it hit the lots very soon too...

Where Nissan does right and Honda does wrong IMO is that Nissan gives all of their cars a very sleek look...the front flows downward into the rear. This makes the sedans look coupe-ish and gives them a very sporty look IMO.

Honda has it totally right w/ the Acura line, though, and their cars look very sporty/sleek/luxurious. :thmsup:

[SCABADA]

The Genesis will have a 300+ hp RWD V8. That car will kill the Accord everyday.

Honda is missing the boat. At least my TL is nice....if I can ever get the dealer to stop the rattles.....

The Genesis won't be in the same class as the Accord. Will it kill the TL is another question. Last summer I posted how I thought Acura/Honda was missing the boat by not having a higher powered RWD in the premium sport sedan segment and that seemed to get some strong disagreement around here. Now when Hyundai does it, people suddenly think its a great idea and think that Honda should have something in this segment after all. :lmao:

Where I think Honda is missing the boat though is the hybrid in this segment. Not everyone wants something as small as an insight or civic. The new camry and altima hybrids are decent looking rides. The Accord hybrid doesn't compete mpg wise with these right?. Hopefully they'll make it up with a clean diesel.

[mwmcginn]

Ok, lets face it, almost all these cars look alike. Still, for the nissan fans, whats up with that grill. I love the back, but that weird blocked out chunk at the bottom makes it a no sale for me.

[BenjiBoy650]

The Genesis won't be in the same class as the Accord...you're right, it'll be leagues ahead. If an Accord EX-L V6 Navi is going to cost $30K and a Genesis V8 is also going to cost $30K, I know which one I'm going to look at first...

[stevencrosbie]

The Hyundai and you know it.


Maybe it won't rattle....ours don't...

[accordexlv6]

Funny, I can't find the kind of gushing praise on Hyundai sites as I do on this Accord site. You would think Hyundai was the second coming of Christ or something.

I'm not gettin' it, especially after reading the article in BusinesWeek about Hyundai and it's serious halting of sales progress (and reversal). It's really an interesting read.

Turns out Hyundai and it's execs are finding out that "Hyundai does not exist as a brand" (their words). They are petrified the "Genesis" will be a lead balloon. Internal sales projections have gone from a million plus in 2010 to maybe 700,000, despite an onslaught of new products. The Sonata is building up excess inventory not seen since Chrysler got it's you-know-what in a ringer about six months ago. The storage lot at the factory in Alabama that makes 'em is packed with Sonatas that are not being bought by dealers. Hello Budget Rent-A-Car!

Dig a little bit and you will find out that despite all the talk about Hyundai being the next Honda or Toyota, it appears it's more of an emporer with very few clothes. Even the vaunted Azera that is such a great value compared to an Accord or Camry is a dud. Sorry, reputation (and subsequently sales) has to be earned.

Oh, and I'll believe the $30K pricetag when I see it. And if it is $30K, I would rather spend a little bit more and get a G35. No-brainer there.

Must be something about the cribbed "H" from Honda on those Hyundais that gets everyone all giddy. Let's just all stop acting like there is some stampede to Hyundai. It doesn't exist. :rolleyes:

[SCABADA]

The Genesis won't be in the same class as the Accord...you're right, it'll be leagues ahead. If an Accord EX-L V6 Navi is going to cost $30K and a Genesis V8 is also going to cost $30K, I know which one I'm going to look at first...

As much time as you spend on this board I hope you wouldn't spend 30K on an Accord. Personally if I was looking at the cars in the $30K price range I'm not sure the Accord would be high on my list. Our info so far on the Genesis concept is prelimanary, but from what I see its base will start off where the highest end Accord 6speed w/ nav tops off. Compared to the Accord which starts under 19K for a 4cyl and under $24K for a 6cyl, basically you have a concept car targeting another class of car.

I hope the Genesis concept pans out to be all that everyone is making it out to be on this board. I could see it being a value that looks great on paper and it should have Infiniti, Lexus and Acura most worried. That's great compitition is good. For the enthusiast though will it be as fun to drive as a BMW 3 series or a G35? We don't know. They boast 0-60 "under 6 seconds" that's not really anything to brag about these days. They don't give us a hp rating, vehicle weight info. Can we get a 6 speed manual, and if not, will the auto be well matched to the car? We don't know. I haven't read to many reviews of Hyundai's where they've said wow this car handles great and is a blast to drive. If they say that about the Genesis concept when it materializes I'll be happy (again compitition is great), but until then we just don't know.

Still think its funny looking back when I said I wish Acura would finally develop some upscale RWD sport sedans this idea wasn't as well recieved. I was told oh no the TL-S is all we need besides RWD is bad in the snow. Now that its popular to love Hyundai around here when they start talking about a future RWD sedan we all fall in love.

[BenjiBoy650]

Just like I would not spend $30K on an $30K MSRP Accord, I would not spend $30K on a $30K Genesis. So the comparison holds. Is it another class of car? Sure...but the bottom line counts...so it's fair game.

You do realize, a G35 is much smaller and isn't really the holy grail when it comes to reliability/rattles either. Doesn't help that much that Car and Driver basically said it's unrefined

And you do realize the difference is that Hyundai is doing 300HP RWD V8 for $30K, and a TL-S is $38K...ya, Acura made a RWD V8 like that, I can only imagine how much it would cost. And I wouldn't buy it.

[SCABADA]

Just like I would not spend $30K on an $30K MSRP Accord, I would not spend $30K on a $30K Genesis. So the comparison holds. Is it another class of car? Sure...but the bottom line counts...so it's fair game.

You do realize, a G35 is much smaller and isn't really the holy grail when it comes to reliability/rattles either. Doesn't help that much that Car and Driver basically said it's unrefined

And you do realize the difference is that Hyundai is doing 300HP RWD V8 for $30K, and a TL-S is $38K...ya, Acura made a RWD V8 like that, I can only imagine how much it would cost. And I wouldn't buy it.

more like Hyundai "hopes to be doing". They have not produced it for us yet, at this point you're not going to be able to find anything bad to say about how it drives, because we just don't know. Search any car out there that has been produced, and you can find complaints.

Again, the thing I find most ammusing is suddenly an upscale RWD sedan is a great idea (even though it isn't even here yet and we haven't driven it). 9 months ago why wasn't that the case?

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and another thing - until I see some real power and FE figures on this engine I will wait to pass judgement to as if its something I'd want more than some of the sixes it competes against. A crown vic has a V8 does that mean its better than the TL?

[BenjiBoy650]

$30K and you call that upscale? Compare to a $38K TL-S?? :dunno:

Does a Crown Vic have 300HP? The Genesis might not be EXACTLY 300...ok it might be 296. The Sonata's V6 came within spitting distance of the Accord V6 AND produces more torque. How bout that.

[SCABADA]

$30K and you call that upscale? Compare to a $38K TL-S??

We don't have the facts so we don't know that the Genesis is $30K or if its over. Even if it is exactly $30k and not over, what class of car does this Genesis aim to call itself when it gets compared to other cars -- the family sedan or something that is a step up from that?


Does a Crown Vic have 300HP? The Genesis might not be EXACTLY 300...ok it might be 296. The Sonata's V6 came within spitting distance of the Accord V6 AND produces more torque. How bout that.

No a Crown Vic doesn't have 300hp. Exactly my point. V8's aren't always better than V6's. Yeah I know you're going to say but they made a V6 with such and such power so this V8 you'll speculate will be ... My point is we don't have the facts and we haven't driven it.

[SCABADA]

There's more things involved in cost besides the upfront price of the car.
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/top10/115613/article.html

5 out of 10 on this worst of list are Korean. Ouch. I'm not trying to trash them honestly I think they've been improving and I hope they keep it up. Just remember its not hard to find bad or good info about just about any make out there. The grass is always greener...

[BenjiBoy650]

There's more things involved in cost besides the upfront price of the car.
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/top10/115613/article.html

5 out of 10 on this worst of list are Korean. Ouch. I'm not trying to trash them honestly I think they've been improving and I hope they keep it up. Just remember its not hard to find bad or good info about just about any make out there. The grass is always greener...
Great news for me! I always buy used cars anyway :thmsup:

[cforez]

Funny, I can't find the kind of gushing praise on Hyundai sites as I do on this Accord site. You would think Hyundai was the second coming of Christ or something.

I'm not gettin' it, especially after reading the article in BusinesWeek about Hyundai and it's serious halting of sales progress (and reversal). It's really an interesting read.

Turns out Hyundai and it's execs are finding out that "Hyundai does not exist as a brand" (their words). They are petrified the "Genesis" will be a lead balloon. Internal sales projections have gone from a million plus in 2010 to maybe 700,000, despite an onslaught of new products. The Sonata is building up excess inventory not seen since Chrysler got it's you-know-what in a ringer about six months ago. The storage lot at the factory in Alabama that makes 'em is packed with Sonatas that are not being bought by dealers. Hello Budget Rent-A-Car!

All you have to do is rent a car and you can see this is true. It looks like GM and Ford are finally trying to limit their non-profitable fleet sales, so when you go rent a car, the parking lots are now filled with Chryslers, Hyundais, and (surprisingly) Toyotas. At least that's been my observation the last couple of times I've rented a car.

Since the majority of Accord buyers are getting the I4, I don't think a V8 will convert many buyers. Especially with gas prices already over $3/gal. Check out the CR-V, no V6 and yet it's still an out-of-the-park home run.

I would even speculate that the majority of buyers who don't care about gas prices aren't even considering Hyundai. I know if I were going to spend $30-$40k on a car, it certainly wouldn't be on a Hyundai...

[AccordEd]

Does a Crown Vic have 300HP?

Well, a 2004 Mercury Marauder has 302hp :thmsup:

[accordexlv6]

I would even speculate that the majority of buyers who don't care about gas prices aren't even considering Hyundai. I know if I were going to spend $30-$40k on a car, it certainly wouldn't be on a Hyundai...

That is the least of Hyundai's worries. Hyundai has that new Veracruz, Azera, and Tucson. The Tucson (like the Sonata) is tanking. The Azera never even got going, and the Veracruz is gonna be nothing. Wanna know why?

Hyundai execs took the Veracruz (their over $30K/3 seat SUV) to consumer clinics. As soon as people found out it was a Hyundai, the number of people who would even consider buying it as a Hyundai was a horrific 24%. If it was a Toyota or Honda the numbers are 55% and higher. Nobody except cheapskates and people who view cars totally as appliances are buying Hyundais. Everyone else turns their noses up at 'em and their owners.

Despite what anyone wants to say about image, it matters big time. When I see someone driving a Hyundai, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, or Kia all I can think is :"There's someone that knows nothin' about cars... or just buys it for the "deal".. or they are a subprime (deadbeat) buyer". I'm certainly not the only one who thinks that.

Lastly, for all of the cheerleading that goes on for Hyundai and all the efforts they have made with new models, they sell barely more cumulative than Toyota sells Camrys or Honda sells Accords... around 450,000 and dropping.

And if anyone thinks that someone who is considering plunking down $30-$40K on a vehicle is gonna buy it from a dealership that sells crappy Accents to the lowest common denominator or does local TV commercials with silly characters and "we finance anyone" messages is really out of touch.

Like I said earlier, scratch the surface and you find there is less to Hyundai.

Not more. :rolleyes:

[mwmcginn]

Despite what anyone wants to say about image, it matters big time. When I see someone driving a Hyundai, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, or Kia all I can think is :"There's someone that knows nothin' about cars... or just buys it for the "deal".. or they are a subprime (deadbeat) buyer". I'm certainly not the only one who thinks that.

Lastly, for all of the cheerleading that goes on for Hyundai and all the efforts they have made with new models, they sell barely more cumulative than Toyota sells Camrys or Honda sells Accords... around 450,000 and dropping.

And if anyone thinks that someone who is considering plunking down $30-$40K on a vehicle is gonna buy it from a dealership that sells crappy Accents to the lowest common denominator or does local TV commercials with silly characters and "we finance anyone" messages is really out of touch.

Like I said earlier, scratch the surface and you find there is less to Hyundai.

Not more. :rolleyes:

You probably could have said most of the above about honda, datsun, and toyota when they started out, but they would be compared to GM and Ford.

[accordexlv6]

You probably could have said most of the above about honda, datsun, and toyota when they started out, but they would be compared to GM and Ford.

Hyundai is not just starting out. They've been building cars for quite a while... 1967 and selling cars here since 1985 so let's dispel that fallacy. And their early cars were nothing more than pure, unadulterated JUNK. No redeeming value whatsoever.

Honda sold here from about 1973 and developed a following and respect unparalled by the late 70's/early 1980's. In fact they were so skilled at marketing, they knew it would be folly to sell luxury models through the Honda franchise. And remember, the Honda franchise in 1986 was revered by the auto industry and consumer. Hyundai thinks they can just skip that step.

Lastly, why does someone choose a Hyundai? People choose Hondas for their great handling, steering, engine performance, quality, resale and longevity. People choose Toyotas for dependability, smooth drivetrains, high quality, resale value and refinement.

What does Hyundai offer that noboby else does? What makes them special? What makes you want a Hyundai? Nothing.

Except a cheap price.

Not a way to build brand equity or a customer base. Because sooner or later that Hyundai owner that purchased solely on a cheap purchase price will either buy a cheaper car the next time (think Chinese) or will become better off and aspire to own something nicer.

Can you imagine how many Hyundai owners aspire to own a Honda, Toyota, Lexus, Acura, Infiniti? Alot.

Conversely, how many Honda, Toyota, Acura, Infiniti, Lexus (heck, even Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, and Mitsubishi) owners crave a Hyundai some day? None.

Except a few on this site.

[RTexasF]

Not a fan of the 08 so far. Don't like the sedan or the coupe. I was hoping the coupe would look really nice because I had planned on possibly buying one. Let down for me so far. Maybe they will look better in person ?

Hey buster :wave: -

I'm far from enamored with the look but you could be right. Seeing it in person is so much different than pictures alone.

[honda761]

The new Eleantra is pretty sweet inside. The interior materials and ergomancis and design can compare to any Japanese small car. However its the engine that is the drawback. Its the same from the last design and the harshness when revved high is still there. That cant be said for any Honda car, you rev it high its goes so smooth.

[ItsaHonda]

I couldn't have said it any better myself Accordexlv6 :thmsup:

My dad bought a brand new 1989 Hyundai Excel and it was a pretty decent car mechanically for the 8 years that he drove it, but I believe the only thing 'Hyundai' about it was the name. IIRC, the engines were Mitsubishi and the cars were built by Chrysler. He actually bought the car thinking he was buying a Honda! :lmao: The 81 Civic wagon was the earliest Honda I've owned and it was (and still is) a very dependable and well made car.

I couldn't tell you when was the last time I've seen an Excel...

[Trip]

I agree with what AccordEXLV6 has posted about Hyundai's position in the market. Their corner stone is cheap cars. Yes their quality has grown in leaps and bounds and they're not bad cars, but people buy them because they're inexpensive and offer a lot of features for the money. But a $30,000 Hyundai Genesis = VW Phaeton.

[Trip]

Since the topic is Hyundai, what does everyone think about this vehicle looking like a Hyundai?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/281000-281999/281873_125_full.jpg

[Trip]

A nice side chop from vtec.net:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6869/2008hondaaccordsedansidfn5.jpg

[ESHBG]

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It looks pretty decent in that picture.

Looking at all of the spy shots again I see the car is most likely an LX and I never liked the looks of those no matter what the year, so we'll see how I feel when the photos of the EX come out. As of now I am still very disappointed, though.

[namegoeshere]

see the resemblance?

[ESHBG]

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