Where do you guys feel "good" about when reading the dipstick? I know the manual says between the 2 holes, but my wife's brand new CR-V covers both holes w/ oil. Just changed the oil in mine yesterday, and put 4.5 qts. in. The dipstick read inbetween the holes. So, did Honda factory fill too much? Which do y'all feel is right:

The manual or what it reads from the factory?

I just put it at the top hole, it's easier to gauge if the motor is burning any oil.

I'd agree with you on that except there's one problem; it calls for 4.4 qts. with filter. If I go to the top then I'm sitting right around 5 qts. Too little or too much is a bad deal. I'd just like to know whats right if anyone knows.

Who else on here fills it to the 2nd line?

I don't think it will take 1/2 a quart to put you to the full mark if that's what you want. I'd bet it would be just a few ounces. The other side is leave it alone.....the manual says it's okay, you put in the correct amount of oil, so what's to worry about? FWIW mine goes to the second hole in the dipstick with 4.5 quarts and a new filter.....that is after running it a bit and allowing it to sit prior to checking.

In my experience it is a full quart separating the two dots. But the dots are there for a reason so I go right up to the top and didn't have any problems in 37K miles on the Accord. Surely Honda has built in a buffer zone. I've even had it up above the top mark by a little bit.

I'm sure you are correct about the one quart separation from one dot to the other. I have put in 4.5 qts and very occasionally had to add about 3 ounces to get it exactly to the top dot when it was between the two. Obviously the amount needed will vary depending on precisely where it is between the two dots. Like yourself I like it on that top dot to keep a close watch on consumption. Other than break in there hasn't been any consumption so no worries.....yet.

I go to the top whole, but every 5k miles it's 1/2 way down which is usually 1/2qt.

Mine also goes to the second hole on exactly 4.5 quarts, per the manual specification. I don't worry about it (personally) until it gets more than halfway down between the holes, but that's only happened once (on my first run of PP). The second run of PP stayed pegged on the top hole for the entire 6600 mile OCI.

This is weird. Mine, as I said earlier in this thread, is between the 2 dots when 4.5 quarts is put in. I'd feel better seeing the level on the 2nd dot but don't want to overfill the crankcase.

When I change the oil in the 2005 Accord or 2007 CRV, I put in 4.839838 quarts.

And I don't worry about it.

When I change the oil in the 2005 Accord or 2007 CRV, I put in 4.839838 quarts.

:lmao:

It's going to fluctuate between engines. All I've ever done in the two Accords is dump the whole 5 quart jug into the engine when I do a oil change with filter. It wasn't until a few years later, on the forum, that one member told me that the engine calls for 4.5 quarts. Hmmmmm, 100K miles later, I actually learned the correct amount but have been putting and extra 1/2 quart in. Guess what the dipstick told me? It was full,yes, but I still had some room left to go if I really wanted to fill it up. It also depends on temperature and time. Like, never check the engine oil right after you shut it down on a hot day.

You'll use that extra partial quart in the 1st few thousand miles (5k?) anyway.

Well, knock on wood (if you can find real wood these days....) everytime I change the oil, 12K OCI, the dipstick is still at the level it was when I last changed it. I tell you, these baby's don't use oil at all!!!!

I don't know about that. Many Honda engines use some oil. Engines in general use some amount of oil. If you drive hard or at high speeds on the highway, say 80 mph or higher, the 2.4L will consume some oil.

I know back in the old F23 engine...it would consume more oil if you downshifted a lot.

Doesn't matter how hard I drive the J32...I've never seen the oil reading move on the dip stick.

my 2005 LX I-4 does not use any oil-per the dipstick. I regularly drive from NJ to FL which is a 1204 mile trip one way. Minimum speed is 75mph until I hit the Carolinas GA and FL where the speedo never sees the backside of 85mph.
Ave mpg BTW is 34
OC interval 0-35K was every 7500 miles at the dealer
More recent OC interval is 5K on a blend of Castrol GTX/Syntec 5-20
Total miles = 67K

Sorry you have the only oil burning 05 Accord- but don't try to rationalize that with "I drive 80 mph all the time" and that is why it uses it. Maybe you broke it in wrong-

Steve, don't tell me what to say or think. I don't have the only oil burning 05. You're obviously clueless. It's common for some of the 2.4L's and all cars for that matter,to use some amount of oil at high speeds. Some times fuel dilution causes the oil level to remain full, when in fact it's not. Some don't. It might have to something to do with engine break in, or it might not. How did you break yours in?

I have 85k miles on mine. It's a 5spd manual. Down shifting does contribute to oil consumption. I drive 100 miles per day at 80mph +. I used 1/2qt per 5k miles. Runs perfect. PCV valve needs to be checked.

From the many oil analysis reports I've seen of the Honda 2.4L, it isn't a known oil burner but at least 50% of the Accord 2.4L UOA's have shown some small amount of oil usage. However, depending on length of interval and driving style (I have a manual trans) can all impact oil consumption.

0.5 qt / 5k miles is not an "oil burner". Change the PCV at 100k(?) miles and you should be set. I changed mine at ~ 75k miles & that has really helped to reduce consumption. I will change it every 50k miles in the future as oil consumption went up shortly after that mark.

Maybe you broke it in wrong-

maybe he did everything correctly, and the engine is possible culprit....

don't be so quick to judge, bro.

Sorry you have the only oil burning 05 Accord- but don't try to rationalize that with "I drive 80 mph all the time" and that is why it uses it. Maybe you broke it in wrong-

Damn what the hell was that about...that was out of line, especially for a noob :thumbsdow

Sorry you have the only oil burning 05 Accord- but don't try to rationalize that with "I drive 80 mph all the time" and that is why it uses it. Maybe you broke it in wrong-

A wise ass we don't need here. Buster knows more about oil(s) than you ever knew existed. Cool your jets.

Thanks guys, yeah I have no idea why my car uses 1/2 qt per 5k. I understand what Steve was trying to say, and he is right to some degree that not all engines use oil. I really don't have an explanation for my car other than it could be the way I drive, how I broke in the engine or it's just like that from the factory. Car runs great and I'm happy with it so I don't really mind too much. :)

Several people that have the 2.4L that posted UOA's on BITOG show some oil usage. spiderbypass is one of them. Same driving conditions as mine. Another guy, Market25 (steve), his friends Accord uses none at all over 12k mile drains.

from past readings I know Buster is kind of 'sensitive' about his 1/2 qt in 5 K miles--just wanted to check if he still is- In the 70's my 69 Cougar 351C and 77 TA 400 pontiac used at least 1 qt in 3K miles, so 1/2 in 5 is excellent wouldn't you say?

I just hope that 1/2 isn't resting in his intake manifold. Have any of you taken the IM off to see the build up? I mean, the PCV shoots it right in their.
I'll take some pics of mine when I do the TSX IM swap to verify.

I just hope that 1/2 isn't resting in his intake manifold. Have any of you taken the IM off to see the build up? I mean, the PCV shoots it right in their.
I'll take some pics of mine when I do the TSX IM swap to verify.


Hmmm, I hope not. I'm going to have the pcv valve replaced tomorrow. My car has always consumed 1/2qt per 5k miles. I didn't break in the engine that hard, which could be why. However, i do drive at high speeds for 100 miles per day and the car sees redline a few times a day as well. :dunno:

I just hope that 1/2 isn't resting in his intake manifold. Have any of you taken the IM off to see the build up? I mean, the PCV shoots it right in their.
I'll take some pics of mine when I do the TSX IM swap to verify.

I hope that doesn't happen, as most engines have a baffle/mesh filter (or something to stop straight flow from crankcase) between crankcase and the PVC value to hinder liquid oil getting sucked into IM.
You still get vapors and IM still can get gummed up after time.

I changed my oil several weeks back. I (as turBeau) tried to estimate 4.4 quarts from my 5 quart container of Motorcraft syn blend. My first check was closer to the bottom hole. I addded half of the remainder, maybe .3 quarts. A week later, it was between the holes. I finished the bottle and wondered if I'd have to buy more. It's stayed at the top hole ever since. I guess it holds 5 quarts unofficially. :dunno:

Burning up .5qts in 5k is nothing to be alarmed over. It certainly doesn't indicate that you have a oil consumption issue (assuming that usage rate doesn't change much.) There are lot's of variable as to why an engine may consume oil, such as:

Wieght of oil
Brand of oil
Driving style
Climate (like severe heat or severe cold)