Im probably gonna buy one. I know im stupid sometimes, especially when the new models comes out cuz it will have some bugs. But, I like it and I want a navi on a car.

And this would be like my 4th accord

360??? (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12155)

what happened to this? :dunno:

360??? (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12155)

what happened to this? :dunno:

I forgot about that thread.

Im probably gonna buy one. I know im stupid sometimes, especially when the new models comes out cuz it will have some bugs. But, I like it and I want a navi on a car.

And this would be like my 4th accord
Please please, go right ahead and I encourage this behavior! See, from what I am seeing so far odds are that I am not going to like the 8th gen. that much. So all of you current newer model owners will be trading in, giving me the opportunity for some slammin' deals on used, low-mileage 7th gen Accords...

:thumbsup:

360??? (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12155)

what happened to this? :dunno:

dudee.. i so got that. Its on my display case, next to my cd's.

Please please, go right ahead and I encourage this behavior! See, from what I am seeing so far odds are that I am not going to like the 8th gen. that much. So all of you current newer model owners will be trading in, giving me the opportunity for some slammin' deals on used, low-mileage 7th gen Accords...

:thumbsup:


blah blah blah blah.. this was the same response to a bunch of people back then when the 03 models came out and then the 06 upgrade. Too much pride up your ass to realized that the upgrades/new models are for the best of the company and for the consumers.


/rant end.

blah blah blah blah.. this was the same response to a bunch of people back then when the 03 models came out and then the 06 upgrade. Too much pride up your ass to realized that the upgrades/new models are for the best of the company and for the consumers.


/rant end.
Uhhh....what?!? I must've re-read what you wrote about 10 times and still fail to understand what the heck it is your are talking about...

...eh whatever, maybe this statement falls into the same category as your, "Bye Bye Accord.....Hello Ferrari 360 Modena!!!" thread?!?

:paranoid: :screwy: :dunno: :lmao:

I'll believe it when I see it.

blah blah blah blah.. this was the same response to a bunch of people back then when the 03 models came out and then the 06 upgrade. Too much pride up your ass to realized that the upgrades/new models are for the best of the company and for the consumers.


/rant end.

I could care less of what is best for the company. Honda does not sign my paychecks.

As for what's best for the consumers, that is not what Honda is concerned with. Honda is concerned with what's best for honda, not what is best for the consumers.

As for the 8th gen, it's ass ugly, and doesn't have any performance type features that have caught my eye at this point. Also, if the speculation regarding specs and performance are at all accurate (unlikely), it's going to be the most boring accord to date. Who cares about more power on a fwd car when it has grown to be so considerably overweight and will undoubtedly have an open differential. I'm anxious to see what type of suspension they will be using as well. If trends continue and have influenced the current accord design (which they no doubt have), then the accord will have some form of a macpherson strut system in place (I had heard rumors of this long ago anyway). I'm not saying it will be a bad car, I just definately wouldn't consider it an upgrade from the current in terms of fun-to-drivedness and build quality if honda trends continue. Anyone remember GM? They used to be a good company too. If this car turns out anything like it looks like it will, and I were in the market for a car like it (big and lumbering, powerful, fwd) in the future, I would be looking at a current gen camry. It handles poorly and has a decent amount of power for a fwd car, though it's not even funny how much better toyota's build quality is at the moment (my last car was a toyota, my mother owns a toyota, my brother owns a toyota and my dad owns a lexus). I love the way my 7th gen drives and the fuel economy it has despite it's fun factor, though it has enough annoying issues (rattle type stuff, loose steering) that if it weren't fun to drive I would drop it in a heartbeat. Sure, toyota has rattle issues too (MUCH fewer though), but they seem to be SIGNIFICANTLY easier to locate and fix than some of the ghost rattles in the accord. I have fixed most of mine, but I have put in far too many hours doing so.

Uhhh....what?!? I must've re-read what you wrote about 10 times and still fail to understand what the heck it is your are talking about...

...eh whatever, maybe this statement falls into the same category as your, "Bye Bye Accord.....Hello Ferrari 360 Modena!!!" thread?!?

:paranoid: :screwy: :dunno: :lmao:



the 360 modena was a joke if you didnt get it.

If you can do it...I say go for it. You only live once.

I could care less of what is best for the company. Honda does not sign my paychecks.

As for what's best for the consumers, that is not what Honda is concerned with. Honda is concerned with what's best for honda, not what is best for the consumers.

As for the 8th gen, it's ass ugly, and doesn't have any performance type features that have caught my eye at this point. Also, if the speculation regarding specs and performance are at all accurate (unlikely), it's going to be the most boring accord to date. Who cares about more power on a fwd car when it has grown to be so considerably overweight and will undoubtedly have an open differential. I'm anxious to see what type of suspension they will be using as well. If trends continue and have influenced the current accord design (which they no doubt have), then the accord will have some form of a macpherson strut system in place (I had heard rumors of this long ago anyway). I'm not saying it will be a bad car, I just definately wouldn't consider it an upgrade from the current in terms of fun-to-drivedness and build quality if honda trends continue. Anyone remember GM? They used to be a good company too. If this car turns out anything like it looks like it will, and I were in the market for a car like it (big and lumbering, powerful, fwd) in the future, I would be looking at a current gen camry. It handles poorly and has a decent amount of power for a fwd car, though it's not even funny how much better toyota's build quality is at the moment (my last car was a toyota, my mother owns a toyota, my brother owns a toyota and my dad owns a lexus). I love the way my 7th gen drives and the fuel economy it has despite it's fun factor, though it has enough annoying issues (rattle type stuff, loose steering) that if it weren't fun to drive I would drop it in a heartbeat. Sure, toyota has rattle issues too (MUCH fewer though), but they seem to be SIGNIFICANTLY easier to locate and fix than some of the ghost rattles in the accord. I have fixed most of mine, but I have put in far too many hours doing so.

I have a 06 6spd sedan, and I'm eagerly awaiting the 8th gen because it looks like it will set a new benchmark for Honda.

You sound bitter because you wasted too much money on modifying your car (judged by your sig), and now here comes the 8th gen which will blow the 7th gen out of the water.

I have a 06 6spd sedan, and I'm eagerly awaiting the 8th gen because it looks like it will set a new benchmark for Honda.

You sound bitter because you wasted too much money on modifying your car (judged by your sig), and now here comes the 8th gen which will blow the 7th gen out of the water.

Rofl, what? Way to be a fanboy and make an incredibly stupid assumption based on very little information. How will the 8th gen blow the 7th gen out of the water in any way other than power (which doesn't matter as much as the hp figure when the car supposedly also gains about 300 lbs in the process)? My point was that if I were going to buy a Camry, it would be from Toyota. A 3600lb fwd car is cool and all, but lacking pretty much anything that made the TL-S handle well at all (or the accord for that matter), you can bet it's going to be a lot of fun to drive (sarcasm). I'm not saying that it will be a bad car, it'll probably be a pretty nice car relative to some other makes, but obviously not a sporty one in any way other than the engine. If the engine is what makes one car "blow the other out of the water", then you should look into the new altima because it "blows the 8th gen out of the water". :lmao:

The assumption that good companies will always get better is a dumb one. Most people agree that honda is DEFINATELY not the same honda that we knew 10 years ago. Sure it's better than most (not all) car companies out there, but it hit its peak a few years ago and is definately slipping currently. Why assume that just because they are releasing a new generation of their best selling car that it will somehow magically break the trend they have been showing the past decade? As far as I'm concerned, the 5th generation was where the accord hit it's peak. It was simple, but rock solid in terms of quality, got awesome mileage, and was darn fun to drive.

Keep on bitchin, blah blah blah... toyota this, toyota that.. honda this, honda that.


spec this, spec that.. etc... you are too worried about the little details or minor imperfections. Praise the toyota, go buy one.

Keep on bitchin, blah blah blah... toyota this, toyota that.. honda this, honda that.


spec this, spec that.. etc... you are too worried about the little details or minor imperfections. Praise the toyota, go buy one.

Wow, you and that AOL guy get your panties in a bunch because not everyone wants to buy an 8th gen. What should I be worried about if not the details? How'd you buy your car, did you choose one at random (I'm betting you looked at the details)? If I weren't worried about the details I'd buy a gm or a chrysler every time. Maybe you should look into a G6 since the details are so meaningless. I hardly think that obviously deteriorating build quality and lack of performance features are minor details. Besides that, it's the minor details that add up and turn into rather large details. Change of this type doesn't happen all at once, it's gradual the overwhelming majority of the time. Ignore the minor details and soon enough you'll be throwing your money at an overpriced piece of low quality garbage (neo-domestics).

Rofl, what? Way to be a fanboy and make an incredibly stupid assumption based on very little information. How will the 8th gen blow the 7th gen out of the water in any way other than power (which doesn't matter as much as the hp figure when the car supposedly also gains about 300 lbs in the process)?
looks like you're the one making detailed baseless assumptions here, not me.


My point was that if I were going to buy a Camry, it would be from Toyota. A 3600lb fwd car is cool and all, but lacking pretty much anything that made the TL-S handle well at all (or the accord for that matter), you can bet it's going to be a lot of fun to drive (sarcasm). I'm not saying that it will be a bad car, it'll probably be a pretty nice car relative to some other makes, but obviously not a sporty one in any way other than the engine. If the engine is what makes one car "blow the other out of the water", then you should look into the new altima because it "blows the 8th gen out of the water". :lmao:
Who said the "engine improvements" were my claim that the 8th gen is going to be better than the 7th gen??? Looks like you were making another baseless assumption.


The assumption that good companies will always get better is a dumb one. Most people agree that honda is DEFINATELY not the same honda that we knew 10 years ago.
You're right, companies evolve, some for the worse, some for the better. Everyone may agree that Honda is not the same company it was 20 years ago, because it's evolved for the better.


Sure it's better than most (not all) car companies out there, but it hit its peak a few years ago and is definately slipping currently.
You're ass must have alot of room in it, because you keep pulling things out of it one after another. Where did you get this from?? Or is this another one of your bitter opinions since you wasted alot of money on modifying your car???


Why assume that just because they are releasing a new generation of their best selling car that it will somehow magically break the trend they have been showing the past decade?
Because that's been the trend for the past 7 generations, and that's a fact, and not an opinion.


As far as I'm concerned, the 5th generation was where the accord hit it's peak. It was simple, but rock solid in terms of quality, got awesome mileage, and was darn fun to drive.
You've already shown your opinion doesn't matter.

Wow, you and that AOL guy get your panties in a bunch because not everyone wants to buy an 8th gen. What should I be worried about if not the details? How'd you buy your car, did you choose one at random (I'm betting you looked at the details)? If I weren't worried about the details I'd buy a gm or a chrysler every time. Maybe you should look into a G6 since the details are so meaningless. I hardly think that obviously deteriorating build quality and lack of performance features are minor details. Besides that, it's the minor details that add up and turn into rather large details. Change of this type doesn't happen all at once, it's gradual the overwhelming majority of the time. Ignore the minor details and soon enough you'll be throwing your money at an overpriced piece of low quality garbage (neo-domestics).

I make useless and baseless decisions when i buy my cars. I dont know it's just coincidence or not, but i put all these random cars into a hat and so far its been accord after the other. 1996, 2003 & 2006. And now, possibly a 2008. But thats just me, cuz I can ony live once and I dont bitch and moan about the little details and imperfection. But you seems to do that without getting the full facts. And If I really didnt like the accord that much, it would have gotten rid of it by now. A few times, i looked at the other cars, Cadillac CTS & Lexus IS350. But hey, its been good to me, and each time i have bought one it has been better before.

Who said the "engine improvements" were my claim that the 8th gen is going to be better than the 7th gen??? Looks like you were making another baseless assumption.

Then what is your claim, you have said all of nothing, and I don't have the slightest idea what you may be referring to if not that since there isn't a whole lot else.

You're right, companies evolve, some for the worse, some for the better. Everyone may agree that Honda is not the same company it was 20 years ago, because it's evolved for the better.

How is this true at all? What makes a company or their products better? Increased transmission failure rates? 2nd and 3rd gear refusing to engage on some of the manual transmission trims? Rattles? NUMEROUS paint issues? Failing headunit backlights? Regularly warped rotors? Stock tires that almost completely lose grip when they are only a few thousand miles worn? The list goes on. Luckily I haven't experienced much of this at all, and some of the stuff I don't care too much about, but I'm betting that this is going to be the same type of stuff that you see in the next gen. These things were not hugely reoccuring issues 10 years ago. In fact, I had absolutely NO issues similar or worse than this on other older model hondas that I've had experience with. My biggest complaints were due to damage inflicted by some other occurance and not due to defects in the product.

As for what I've experienced...I have orange peel like NO other, I have spent many hours finding and eliminating the rattles that have crept up, I replaced my stock rotors at 20k after being entirely too careful with them and having the pads STILL leave huge deposits on them, I replaced my tires when they had only 12k miles on them because they were borderline unsafe (worst tires I've ever owned), RATTLES!!! I have Nav so I haven't had the pleasure of risking my headunit backlight going out, and I have a stick so my transmission hasn't been at risk of failure (though 3rd gear is quirky sometimes). Most of this stuff is minor, and all of it has been addressed, so I don't have any issues anymore (and I can't help but smile every time I get a chance to drive my car), but I expected more out of my car given the pricetag. Namely the rattles. My 97 cherokee at close to 100k had FAR fewer rattles that needed to be addressed than my 7th gen after less than a year of ownership.

You're ass must have alot of room in it, because you keep pulling things out of it one after another. Where did you get this from?? Or is this another one of your bitter opinions since you wasted alot of money on modifying your car???

I don't think I wasted any money modifying my car, and I'm sure that many people here who have modified their cars would say the same. I modify my car because I like to. It is not an investment, it is a hobby. I like adding things, I like changing things, I like personalizing things. Mainly, I like taking a product that I already like, and tailoring it even more specifically to my own tastes. I hardly call that a waste. Not everyone modifies cars. Many people don't add a damn thing to their cars. Though, many people add a lot. As far as modifying goes, I am on the low end of the spectrum here. Don't be an idiot, or a jerk for that matter.


Because that's been the trend for the past 7 generations, and that's a fact, and not an opinion.

I'm hoping you have personal experience with each and every one of the last 7 generations of accords that you are commenting on. My guess is that you don't.

You've already shown your opinion doesn't matter.

Way to be a jerk about it. I don't see how I have shown that my opinion doesn't matter. Maybe you'd like to try actually posting a response containing your opinions and some form of explanation why you feel that I am wrong rather than just saying "youre wrong, now I'm going to be nasty about it". That sound ok to you?

I make useless and baseless decisions when i buy my cars. I dont know it's just coincidence or not, but i put all these random cars into a hat and so far its been accord after the other. 1996, 2003 & 2006. And now, possibly a 2008. But thats just me, cuz I can ony live once and I dont bitch and moan about the little details and imperfection. But you seems to do that without getting the full facts. And If I really didnt like the accord that much, it would have gotten rid of it by now. A few times, i looked at the other cars, Cadillac CTS & Lexus IS350. But hey, its been good to me, and each time i have bought one it has been better before.

My opinion on the topic is that if you don't moan about the imperfections then you get screwed as a consumer. There is no incentive for Honda to improve or fix anything with a product as long as people don't say anything and keep handing them wads of cash. Why do you think the domestics are trying so hard now after being so stagnant for so many years? If there is a problem that you feel shouldn't be a problem, let it be known. If the accord has been good to you, then that's good, I'm happy for you. And if you want to buy another one, that's fine too, I hope it's as good to you as your past accords have been. My statements were about how I feel about Honda as a company, the 8th gen from what's known/speculated thus far, and my opinion on percieved declining product quality. I am not the only one who holds these opinions and I do not like being ridiculed for holding them and giving an explanation as to why I hold them. If you don't agree, say so (preferably with an explanation), I would legitimately love to feel like Honda is just as good as it was 10 years ago. However, I do not like being faulted for holding an opinion that is not your own. This is a discussion board.

we are all entitled to our own opinions. Your saying, its declining in product quality and Im going to disagree. Pure and simple. Like as Ive said before, from the first accord i had 1996 to the current one that I have now, its been nothing but improvements in the quality. And im sure the 8th gen would be better than the 7th gen. But hey what do i know, ive only owned 3 accords in the past 10 years and soon to be 4th in dec/january. See how much i can get away with and trading it in.

we are all entitled to our own opinions. Your saying, its declining in product quality and Im going to disagree. Pure and simple. Like as Ive said before, from the first accord i had 1996 to the current one that I have now, its been nothing but improvements in the quality. And im sure the 8th gen would be better than the 7th gen. But hey what do i know, ive only owned 3 accords in the past 10 years and soon to be 4th in dec/january. See how much i can get away with and trading it in.

Have you already decided that you are going to get an 08? Another coupe? I don't really like the sedan design at all. The coupe is ok, but I wish they would have done something with the back. though, I did feel that way about the 6th gen rears as well, but I think I always felt that rear on the 6th gen just didn't fit exactly right and was a little too bold, I don't think I ever felt like it was completely out of place or looked unfinished like I feel about the 8th gen. It would be cool if there was some aftermarket option to get the portions of the body around tailpipe like on the concept. That was one of my favorite parts of the concept. I'm pretty excited to see exactly what the specs are going to be in a few days though, namely concerning the suspension and if there are going to be significant weight differences between the coupe and sedan.

im probably gonna get the coupe again.

I'm with you Chanke. From what I've seen of the FWD coupe segment. Looks like the new 6 Spd Altima coupe is the winner. I have no clue what's great about the Camry though. From the 2 I've drove they were junk. Interior is hideous in them.

I'm with you Chanke. From what I've seen of the FWD coupe segment. Looks like the new 6 Spd Altima coupe is the winner. I have no clue what's great about the Camry though. From the 2 I've drove they were junk. Interior is hideous in them.

Yah, I'm not a fan of the interior design, or the car design as a whole on the camry. The interior, namely around the radio/nav/ac, looks very childish in comparison to Honda's dash, even the 8th gen. But, it is very functional, and has a nice solid, QUIET feel throughout the car to it (good and bad). While being not too impressive designwise, I was very impressed by the overall quality. The part of the interior I hate the most is the plastic rear shelf and the rattle it creates. Why someone would think that is a good idea is beyond me. Though, it's easily fixable so it doesn't bother me too much as you pretty much know EXACTLY where it is coming from the moment you first hear it. I haven't driven the new altima coupe, though as far as design goes I like the Altima a lot better than the new hondas. The sedan looks REALLY nice imo. Too bad nissan's current quality = :thumbsdow. I didn't even consider it when I was buying my last car for this reason. I could see owning one for a couple years, but past that I'd be very frightened.

PS. accordio, How's your car doing with hauling those atv's? I'm thinking about getting a trailer for a bike, though that will probably only weigh in at 700ish lbs max. Though, the thought of putting a hitch on my car is saddening.

Yah, I'm not a fan of the interior design, or the car design as a whole on the camry. The interior, namely around the radio/nav/ac, looks very childish in comparison to Honda's dash, even the 8th gen. But, it is very functional, and has a nice solid, QUIET feel throughout the car to it (good and bad). While being not too impressive designwise, I was very impressed by the overall quality. The part of the interior I hate the most is the plastic rear shelf and the rattle it creates. Why someone would think that is a good idea is beyond me. Though, it's easily fixable so it doesn't bother me too much as you pretty much know EXACTLY where it is coming from the moment you first hear it. I haven't driven the new altima coupe, though as far as design goes I like the Altima a lot better than the new hondas. The sedan looks REALLY nice imo. Too bad nissan's current quality = :thumbsdow. I didn't even consider it when I was buying my last car for this reason. I could see owning one for a couple years, but past that I'd be very frightened.

PS. accordio, How's your car doing with hauling those atv's? I'm thinking about getting a trailer for a bike, though that will probably only weigh in at 700ish lbs max. Though, the thought of putting a hitch on my car is saddening.

The car hauls both bikes with ease. I don't regret it one bit. Having the hitch there took a little bit getting used to, but with the ball out it's not too noticable.