Automobile Magazine

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_frankfurt/0708_2008_honda_accord_coupe_and_sedan/

Popular Mechanics

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4220726.html

Car & Driver - Interesting line - "new Accord is actually .5" longer than the RL"

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/13695/first-drive-2008-honda-accord.html

Edmunds
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=58887?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1. *

Thank you for the links. Seems as though the 08 Accord is getting favorable reviews. I'm a little disappointed the coupe gained 250 lbs over the 07, and the gas mileage seems to be much worse, but I guess nothing is for free. To get all of that horsepower and do it on regular unleaded is still very impressive. And it looks like Honda addressed all of my primary complaints with the 07:

1. Foglights standard - Fixed
2. Aux port for MP3 players - Fixed
3. MP3 capable CD drive standard - Fixed
4. Speed sensitive volume for the stereo - Fixed (I'm constantly fiddling with the volume to compensate for different driving speeds)
5. Bluetooth standard - Fixed
6. Auto open/close moonroof - Fixed (I hate having to hold a button on the 07)

Plus all of the other improvements. Nice car, really nice.

I thought that too about the economy at first too, though then noticed that honda is using a different standard in 08 than they did in 07 to estimate mpg. I think using the same epa standard that they are using now to estimate the 07 v6 economy yeilds something like 26mpg highway, or so I've heard, so I'm guessing that using the old standard the new v6 would be something like 33 or 34 highway?. I know very little about it other than it's just different. This explains a few things, like why the 2008 wrx looks like it gets worse mileage than the 2007's even after they advertised that it would get better mileage. New epa ratings, lol. I'm guessing it should get something around 29mpg highway in 08, which makes it look better and better to me (though I'm sure it'll be redesigned again by the time I'm in the market for a new car). Though, I wonder why Honda used the new epa ratings. My accord consistently got/gets better mileage than it was advertised to get. I get about 32mpg highway (advertised as 30) and 22-23mpg city (I think I'm supposed to get 19). Oh well. I wish they would just pick a standard and stick to it.

edmunds says...


Pricing hasn't been finalized, but Honda says some models will see no price increase while others will cost only between $200 and $500 more than the equivalent '07s. So figure that an LX will start around $21,000 and an EX V6 will begin at just a smidge over $30,000. The 2008 Accord goes on sale September 12.

2007 EX V6 stickers at $27,400, 2008 may start at a smidge over $30,000????? $2600 increase? that can't be right........

Might be the price w/ NAVI

Okay, there are WAY too many threads now for me to keep straight! So I'll just post all of my thoughts in this one for now:
Both body styles look way better to me now than they first did.
I am starting to like the sedan a little more than the coupe (and I wasn't crazy about the coupe to begin with), but interior-wise, that steering wheel is just hideous IMO.
The sedan is in the large category now and being compared to the Avalon...definitely more car than I need. I'll have to see it in person first before I jump the gun and say "too big", though.
I do see a little of the RL in there which is a big plus for me, but oddly the Accord is bigger?!?
Very Civic-ish interiors, especially in the coupe. :(
Interesting choice of dash lighting and I am happy to see that they went with the blue...well at least in the coupe. It looks as if the sedan is mostly white w/ blue numbers.
STILL no 60/40 rear seats in the sedan?!?!?!?
Can't wait to see how both body styles look in different colors!
That's about it for now. This is a really good site too w/ great pics:

http://automobiles.honda.com/2008-accord/

I am starting to like the sedan a little more than the coupe (and I wasn't crazy about the coupe to begin with), but interior-wise, that steering wheel is just hideous IMO.

I actually think the sedan and coupe are very nice looking. If I had a family the sedan would be a no brainer. But I agree, the only criticism I can level at the 08 is the steering wheel. I'm really not liking it. It has a very strange shape that I would have a difficult time getting used to. Actually the more I look at the 08 interior, the more I realize what a great job Honda did with the 07 interior. I think the 07 interior is about as perfect a car interior as you can get.

Dgs commented about how they addressed most of his 'complaints/issues' but they didn't deal with mine.

I feel they've taken a few steps backward. Going from touch screen navigation to no touch screen navigation, and getting rid of the 6MT V6 sedan. They also need to work on putting the Accord on a diet.

Negatives: Where's my limited slip differential (for the 6MT)?! Where's my touch screen navigation? Where's my 6MT V6 sedan?

Positives: Projector headlights (at least on the coupe). Available Bluetooth. One touch moonroof controls (ie, 8th gen Civic EX & Si, 4th gen Legacy Limiteds).

That LSD is a really big one in my opinion. I'm not really a big fan of all the electronic nanny/gizmos.

All I want are an available touch screen navigation, LSD, auto up/down power windows, one touch moonroof, maybe ABS, TCS (if you can deactivate it), power locks, manual transmission, and maybe a few other convenience items. I like having the control.

Dgs commented about how they addressed most of his 'complaints/issues' but they didn't deal with mine.

I feel they've taken a few steps backward. Going from touch screen navigation to no touch screen navigation, and getting rid of the 6MT V6 sedan. They also need to work on putting the Accord on a diet.

Negatives: Where's my limited slip differential (for the 6MT)?! Where's my touch screen navigation? Where's my 6MT V6 sedan?

Positives: Projector headlights (at least on the coupe). Available Bluetooth. One touch moonroof controls (ie, 8th gen Civic EX & Si, 4th gen Legacy Limiteds).

That LSD is a really big one in my opinion. I'm not really a big fan of all the electronic nanny/gizmos.

All I want are an available touch screen navigation, LSD, auto up/down power windows, one touch moonroof, maybe ABS, TCS (if you can deactivate it), power locks, manual transmission, and maybe a few other convenience items. I like having the control.

Works good too.lol What woman don't?:lmao:

Dgs commented about how they addressed most of his 'complaints/issues' but they didn't deal with mine.

I feel they've taken a few steps backward. Going from touch screen navigation to no touch screen navigation, and getting rid of the 6MT V6 sedan. They also need to work on putting the Accord on a diet.

Negatives: Where's my limited slip differential (for the 6MT)?! Where's my touch screen navigation? Where's my 6MT V6 sedan?

Positives: Projector headlights (at least on the coupe). Available Bluetooth. One touch moonroof controls (ie, 8th gen Civic EX & Si, 4th gen Legacy Limiteds).

That LSD is a really big one in my opinion. I'm not really a big fan of all the electronic nanny/gizmos.

All I want are an available touch screen navigation, LSD, auto up/down power windows, one touch moonroof, maybe ABS, TCS (if you can deactivate it), power locks, manual transmission, and maybe a few other convenience items. I like having the control.

You really didn't think Honda was going to equip the Accord with an LSD did you? This is a family sedan, not a sports sedan; the typical Accord customer probably doesn't even know what a limited slip differential is. Zero demand for such a performance enhancing item. Even the Accord coupe while being more sporty then the sedan is still first foremost a family coupe. I could justify adding an LSD to the coupe, but it probably will never happen and I think you will be sorely disappointed if you think Honda will ever do it in the future. You will have to go to the after market for that.

The 6MT sedan sold even worse then the 6MT coupe, and the coupe has never been a volume seller. It was an experiment for Honda and it failed. Those things sat on dealership lots and did not move. When I went to buy my coupe they originally tried to pass off a 6MT sedan that had been sitting on the lot for five months. Since I had no interest in a sedan I obviously didn't buy, but my dealership wasn't an isolated case. Plenty of other dealerships I called when I was shopping for my coupe had one or two 6MT sedans that had been sitting there for a long time. Not only does the typical Accord customer not care about an LSD, but the typical V6 Accord customer doesn't want a manual transmission, auto only. If I were you I wouldn't hold my breath for a manual transmission sedan either.

Sounds to me like you are the perfect customer for an Acura TL Type S. That car has what you're looking for. The question is can you afford a $39,000 car? Only you can answer that one. In that price range a FWD car would not be my choice however.

You really didn't think Honda was going to equip the Accord with an LSD did you? This is a family sedan, not a sports sedan; the typical Accord customer probably doesn't even know what a limited slip differential is. Zero demand for such a performance enhancing item. Even the Accord coupe while being more sporty then the sedan is still first foremost a family coupe. I could justify adding an LSD to the coupe, but it probably will never happen and I think you will be sorely disappointed if you think Honda will ever do it in the future. You will have to go to the after market for that.

The 6MT sedan sold even worse then the 6MT coupe, and the coupe has never been a volume seller. It was an experiment for Honda and it failed. Those things sat on dealership lots and did not move. When I went to buy my coupe they originally tried to pass off a 6MT sedan that had been sitting on the lot for five months. Since I had no interest in a sedan I obviously didn't buy, but my dealership wasn't an isolated case. Plenty of other dealerships I called when I was shopping for my coupe had one or two 6MT sedans that had been sitting there for a long time. Not only does the typical Accord customer not care about an LSD, but the typical V6 Accord customer doesn't want a manual transmission, auto only. If I were you I wouldn't hold my breath for a manual transmission sedan either.

Sounds to me like you are the perfect customer for an Acura TL Type S. That car has what you're looking for. The question is can you afford a $39,000 car? Only you can answer that one. In that price range a FWD car would not be my choice however.

But the TL is a 4 door. She's a coupe girl

39k? Toyota Tundra Crewmax Limited :)

Actually.....they are going for around 36k....which is a steal for a Type S.

39k? Toyota Tundra Crewmax Limited :)

Actually.....they are going for around 36k....which is a steal for a Type S.


You like that new Tundra? I was looking forward to that vehicle before it was released with all the hype I was hearing. Went to my dealer to check it out and was very disappointed. I'd take the new Sierra Denali with the 403hp 6.2 over that any day. If it's the big towing #'s are of concern I'd get a diesel.

Tundra b/c the reliability will be better than the GM Product. Yes...I really like the GM Denali...but their reliability/service is horrible. Toyota really stands behind their products.....sometimes more than I feel Acura does.

Tundra b/c the reliability will be better than the GM Product. Yes...I really like the GM Denali...but their reliability/service is horrible. Toyota really stands behind their products.....sometimes more than I feel Acura does.

It took alot of convincing from GM truck drivers who I trusted to not "blow smoke up my proverbial backside" before I bought my Silverado. The ride quality was better in the GM and the value for the money, since GM was still in incentive-land at the time was great. My dad had his last C1500 for 10 years with the only problem being the windsheild wiper motors and my only problem is a broken trim piece around my outside mirror. While I really like the new Tundra, the Crew Cab is almost "too big". (Did I just say that ?? :dunno::paranoid:)

The thing I really like about the Silverado and Sierra is the that bedside has not gotten so tall that you have to be 6'5"" to reach into it and retrieve something or even toss something in the bed. The Titan, F-150, Ram, Tundra seem to all be on a quest for greater heights. This really matters when you are loading the bed at the home improvement center by yourself.

Sorry for the temporary hijack. :wave:

But the TL is a 4 door. She's a coupe girl

I think he's saying it because I was talking about the future.

Honestly, I really don't think an LSD in the 6MT Accord's is completely unrealistic. The 6MT's are a rarer car as it is, so why shouldn't they have an LSD? I think they're more of a specialized car, in a way. I can understand not having an LSD in the 5MT's, because it's a higher volume car.

The only way to get the 6MT in the TL is to buy the Type-S. Sorry, I'm very realistic when it comes to looking at prices. Right now, it looks like when I'm ready to start a family and move up to a sedan, I'm going to be forced to buy used. The Accord is getting too heavy, to deal with the 4 cylinder engine.

The Accord is getting too heavy, to deal with the 4 cylinder engine.

The 08 is heavier but the 08 4 cylinder has 23 more hp too. Should more than compensate for the difference

The 08 is heavier but the 08 4 cylinder has 23 more hp too. Should more than compensate for the difference

It's not the horsepower you want to be looking at, it's the torque. Torque will make more of a difference than horsepower. For it's sake, the torque has increased quite a bit, I believe.

The sedan isn't too bad looking, in my opinion, but I don't really like how it seems so rounded in the center, especially the trunk.

In the past, that's what people have made fun of Honda's for, their lack of torque. I'm not listing any numbers, cuz I don't feel like looking that stuff up right now.

It's not the torque you want to be looking at, it's the horsepower and the torque. You're saying that if the hp increases and the torque doesn't no improvement has been made which is completely false. Horsepower does matter:yes: But there was a torque increase in 08 too. I've posted the numbers in another forum before, the 08 is at least as fast as the 07 based on the numbers.