Source: http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=4106

The Accord V-6 Coupe with 6-speed manual transmission uses a unique version of the 3.5-liter V-6. In place of the i-VTEC cylinder heads that incorporate Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) technology for enhanced fuel economy, the performance-oriented 6-speed V-6 Coupe has VTEC cylinder heads that operate all six cylinders under all driving conditions. The engine switches between two different intake valve profiles based on the operating conditions to deliver superior low- and mid-range power, while achieving the same peak 268 horsepower and 248 lb-ft. torque figures found in the automatic transmission version with VCM. The engine also features a variable intake manifold (constructed of lightweight magnesium) to improve low- to mid-range torque.

VTEC® (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control)
VTEC® operates the engine's 12 intake valves in two distinct modes. At low engine speeds, the intake valves follow low lift and relatively short duration cam profiles. At high engine speeds the valves switch to high-lift, long-duration mode to deliver the best volumetric efficiency. The V-6 with 6-speed manual transmission has a VTEC changeover point that occurs at approximately 5000 rpm.

Intake and Exhaust Tuning
The intake and exhaust systems on the Accord Coupe V-6 with six-speed manual transmission feature exclusive intake and exhaust tuning for sporty sounding performance. The intake is designed to resonate a unique performance sound at mid and high rpms, while the exhaust is designed to convey a low, powerful note at low to mid rpm.

Close-Ratio 6-Speed Manual Transmission
While most Accord V-6 models have a 5-speed automatic transmission, the EX-L V-6 Coupe is also available with a close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission. This short-throw unit is designed to take advantage of the high power and torque of the new Accord V-6 engine and give enthusiast drivers maximum control.

Substantially lighter than the automatic transmission, the 6-speed manual features a high-pressure die-cast aluminum-alloy transmission housing to save weight. High-strength steel gears are used, and the shafts are hollow, netting a further reduction in weight.

Closely spaced ratios help provide stronger acceleration by keeping engine revs up closer to the engine's horsepower peak. A reverse lockout feature prevents the transmission from accidentally being shifted into reverse while the car is moving forward.

The Accord's manual transmission is matched with a compact clutch unit that is self-adjusting for consistent pedal stroke and load throughout its service life. A dual-mass flywheel cuts down the transfer of engine vibration into the cabin and provides increased comfort during shifting and helps to reduce noise.

Any information indicating that the V6 6sp (all coupes for that matter) will have tighter suspensions than the sedans?

Any information indicating that the V6 6sp (all coupes for that matter) will have tighter suspensions than the sedans?

Yes. The V6 6-MT coupe gets firmer front suspension that uses a slightly larger anti-roll bar. It also gets perforated leather seats compared to plain leather seats in all other EX-L Accords. And as you already know, it gets 18" wheels & tires.

Don't mean to be rude or anything, Infinity G35 Coupe has just come out with 3.7L engine which puts out 330HP. I will bet this engine will be available in Nissan Maxima and Altima very soon.
Besides, most of the 3.5L engines out there (Toyota or Nissan) can provide close to 300HP. So, 3.5L with 268HP is nothing to be proud of.

OK, flame suite on............

Don't mean to be rude or anything, Infinity G35 Coupe has just come out with 3.7L engine which puts out 330HP. I will bet this engine will be available in Nissan Maxima and Altima very soon.
Besides, most of the 3.5L engines out there (Toyota or Nissan) can provide close to 300HP. So, 3.5L with 268HP is nothing to be proud of.

OK, flame suite on............

Yea, just what a grocery getter needs, 300+HP :rolleyes:

Accords aren't made for the drag strip.

Don't mean to be rude or anything, Infinity G35 Coupe has just come out with 3.7L engine which puts out 330HP. I will bet this engine will be available in Nissan Maxima and Altima very soon.
Besides, most of the 3.5L engines out there (Toyota or Nissan) can provide close to 300HP. So, 3.5L with 268HP is nothing to be proud of.

OK, flame suite on............

I agree except for the fact that Honda seems to under rate their engines. The 3.0, which is rated pretty mildly, is happy running neck and neck with larger more powerful cars. The Camry doesn't have 300+ HP but it is a HOSS smoking many larger engines in like size cars. In short I don't think the rated horsepower is everything.

Yea, just what a grocery getter needs, 300+HP :rolleyes:

Accords aren't made for the drag strip.

None of the others mentioned are either.
What's with the roll eyes Mr Nay Sayer? Hell, I had a boat with over 400HP. It was no grocery getter but it was a hell of a beer chaser and bikini getter. What does that have to do with anything?

Why aren't you driving a one cylinder Briggs & Stratton? Because you like nicer autos and p-o-w-e-r that's why. We would all like to be afforded the same choices that you have made with your Acura.

beer chaser and bikini getter.


I need something that accomplishes those....:banana::banana::banana:

None of the others mentioned are either.
What's with the roll eyes Mr Nay Sayer? Hell, I had a boat with over 400HP. It was no grocery getter but it was a hell of a beer chaser and bikini getter. What does that have to do with anything?

Why aren't you driving a one cylinder Briggs & Stratton? Because you like nicer autos and p-o-w-e-r that's why. We would all like to be afforded the same choices that you have made with your Acura.

:lmao:

My point was that most people who buy Accords could really give two shits less about their grocery getter getting 300+ HP. Most here are concerned with MPG. If Honda came out with a 350HP Accord, dont you think that would defeat the purpose a bit? Oh, and what kind of MPG did your "boat" get :lmao:

And I'm not really sure what slappy is talking about above, as the 07 Maxima 3.5 puts out 255hp and is staying the same for 08.

Oh and there is no G35 with a 3.7. There is a G37 with a 3.7...But lets not get silly here and start comparing a G37 with an Accord.

This one's for you Tex: :rolleyes:

Don't mean to be rude or anything, Infinity G35 Coupe has just come out with 3.7L engine which puts out 330HP. I will bet this engine will be available in Nissan Maxima and Altima very soon.
Besides, most of the 3.5L engines out there (Toyota or Nissan) can provide close to 300HP. So, 3.5L with 268HP is nothing to be proud of.

OK, flame suite on............

Nissan/Infinity V6 engines are nice if you don't mind the coffee-grinder sound & feel. :yes:

:lmao:

My point was that most people who buy Accords could really give two shits less about their grocery getter getting 300+ HP. Most here are concerned with MPG. If Honda came out with a 350HP Accord, dont you think that would defeat the purpose a bit? Oh, and what kind of MPG did your "boat" get :lmao:

And I'm not really sure what slappy is talking about above, as the 07 Maxima 3.5 puts out 255hp and is staying the same for 08.

The boat burned 30 gallons per hour when I romped on it......hardly ever did that though, uh huh, SURE RICK! That was back in the day when one could afford such a beast. It was a great deal of fun to pull two slalom skiiers @40mph with six in the boat and barely have your foot on the pedal. Yep it had a gas pedal.

Joe D,
Kidding aside, I do agree that most folks that buy Hondas are not horsepower mongers, especially Accord buyers. BUT, there is a market for "Sporty" Sedans that they have decided not to pursue any longer.....a mistake in my thoughts but that matters little. I guess if you want more muscle you step up to an Acura S or farther up the line to another brand.

Frankly I'll be watching the Mitsu Lancer EVO due out before too long to satisfy my urge to smoke a V-8 Mustang with a four banger sedan.
it's in my blood, I just can't help it!

Nissan/Infinity V6 engines are nice if you don't mind the coffee-grinder sound & feel. :yes:

or the sluggish, when is this thing gonna go feel....... :rolleyes:

maybe their new line up is better, but past experience with nissan has left me with hte impression that the engines just are not very responsive. granted i have never driven one of their manual trannies, but as far as automatics go, i hated them. and i'm not even power hungry!

or the sluggish, when is this thing gonna go feel....... :rolleyes:

maybe their new line up is better, but past experience with nissan has left me with hte impression that the engines just are not very responsive. granted i have never driven one of their manual trannies, but as far as automatics go, i hated them. and i'm not even power hungry!

I have a friend who had a 06 Maxima and had nothing but problems since day one with it. About 6 months ago, his gf did him a favor and totaled it for him :lmao:

He got himself a 300 and he's been pretty happy with it...

The boat burned 30 gallons per hour when I romped on it......hardly ever did that though, uh huh, SURE RICK! That was back in the day when one could afford such a beast. It was a great deal of fun to pull two slalom skiiers @40mph with six in the boat and barely have your foot on the pedal. Yep it had a gas pedal.

Joe D,
Kidding aside, I do agree that most folks that buy Hondas are not horsepower mongers, especially Accord buyers. BUT, there is a market for "Sporty" Sedans that they have decided not to pursue any longer.....a mistake in my thoughts but that matters little. I guess if you want more muscle you step up to an Acura S or farther up the line to another brand.

Frankly I'll be watching the Mitsu Lancer EVO due out before too long to satisfy my urge to smoke a V-8 Mustang with a four banger sedan.
it's in my blood, I just can't help it!

lol, I thought you meant "boat" as in a Ford Galaxy or something :lmao:

No, amigo, a real boat. I had plenty of land yachts in my time but this wasn't one of them. I did tow it with a Mercury wagon with an automatic compressor for the airshocks and a 460 ci V-8 though.......That WAS a land yacht with the (now defunct) rear facing seat for two in the ass end. It got 9MPG under all conditions. Ah, those were the days.

OFF TOPIC, get back on it, sorry for reminiscing a bit.

I test drove the 05 G35 MT and was really let down by it, like someone else said the engine kind of grinds itself to speed. Out Accords purrs itself to its redline while the Infiniti's motor in the G35 is just rough feeling.

And regarding cars with 300hp, when you get to that kind of hp its a toy!

Let's hear it for toys!

Motor Trend got a 2005 Accord sedan weighing 3377 lbs to run 93.1 mph in the 1/4 mile (link (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0512_family_sedan_comparison/specs_price.html)). That Accord has 240 hp under the old SAE rating system; it would have about 230 hp using the current SAE rating system.

The 2008 Accord coupe V6 6-MT weighs 3446 lbs (link (http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=4102)) and has 268 hp and almost 50 lb-ft more torque than the '05. My guess is this new coupe will trap the 1/4 mile close to triple digits. If so, it would have a higher ET than the WRX, MS3, GTI and other peformers costing mid-$20s (assuming this Accord costs $28.5k).

I would rather the Accord getting RWD or AWD then pumping 300+ from a V6.

Off topic, but what's the deal with some car sources claiming the new V6 making 273 HP and some 268 HP. Has Honda made an official standing yet?

According to their website, Honda's official standing appears to 268 HP. This figure is noted in the upper left-hand corner and also under specs.

http://automobiles.honda.com/2008-accord/

I would rather the Accord getting RWD or AWD then pumping 300+ from a V6.

Off topic, but what's the deal with some car sources claiming the new V6 making 273 HP and some 268 HP. Has Honda made an official standing yet?

I Agree with the first statement.

As for the second one, I think Honda is sandbagging Toyota. The 2008 Accord V6 was developed to be a class leader in terms of power output; it was rated at 273/250 hp/tq. Then at the last moment before the press embargo was lifted, Honda lowered the power rating to the EXACT same horsepower & torque specs as the Camry -- even down to the exact same RPM. Hmmm... ;)

Guess we'll have to wait until someone dynos a 2008 Accord V6 to know for sure.

On second thought, I think Honda lowered Accord engines' advertised power output to help protect Acura sales. The 200 horsepower EX-L I4 Accord with Acura-like interior could encroach upon TSX sales. The 273 horsepower EX-L V6 Accord with Acura-like interior could encroach upon TL sales. So maybe Honda decided to reduce the advertised engine output of the Accord to make the TSX/TL/RL look better. Of course, Honda couldn't go too low in its advertised power output, so it went as low as it could: matching the Camry at 268 horsepower. But soon enough the dyno will reveal all...

I have a friend who had a 06 Maxima and had nothing but problems since day one with it. About 6 months ago, his gf did him a favor and totaled it for him :lmao:

He got himself a 300 and he's been pretty happy with it...
My erstwhile 2003 Maxima was a miserable car. All it had going for it was the Xenons and the 255HP + limited slip diff. BTW, it felt faster than my 244 hp 2006 AV6 automatic, so Honda's engines are only under-rated by so much. But then again it was lighter and was a P.O.S. otherwise. Did I mention it consumed and blackened oil at a rate of about a quart every 1000 miles? The Accord V6 sedan is a VASTLY superior car to a Maxima.

My guess is this new coupe will trap the 1/4 mile close to triple digits. [/B].


.....Car and Driver slammed an 06 6M thru the quarter 14.5/98. Triple digits seem realistic in this sailor's view.

I would even venture that 0-60 for the new 6M coupe will come up a tad over 5.5. It's the VCM (or lack of it) that concerns me. Sure, I love the performance. But I also really like the fuel economy potential. I can get SO close to the 40 mpg barrier, I can almost TASTE it.

...not sure the '08 6M coupe could do that without VCM.....................

So.....................I will lay in the weeds and observe for a spell.

Great cars, ez..

Thinking I'm going to be in the $30K range for my next vehicle, I've test driven quite a few including the TSX, A4, G35, to name a few. Still a Honda fan but you need to reaffirm your faith every so often ;)

Speaking of the G35 . . . I was under whelmed by this vehicle. The V6 pushed you back in your seat and it cornered flat enough but a lot of little things detracted from the driving experience. The shifter . . . "felt like a baseball bat in a barrel of coconuts" (can't remember where I heard that phrase but I love it and its very apt here.) I missed a gear here and there and I had to really tug on the stick to get it into gear. Maybe it needed time to break in but the A4 and 335 didn’t feel like that. And the TSX and Accord 6 speed made all of their shifters feel like Fisher Price. The exhaust note was great but the engine itself reminded me of an automatic coffee percolating. The interior had nice textures and a nice tactile feel but overall it was, meh. The dash board is not very deep which puts the top of the steeply raked windshield and the sun visors right on your head. My baseball cap rim kept hitting the sun visor. The “piano inspired” dash layout looked neat at first but it was difficult to see the buttons at a glance and the position felt awkward. For as large as the car seemed on the outside, it felt too cozy inside. Not sure where they put all the space.

I agree except for the fact that Honda seems to under rate their engines. The 3.0, which is rated pretty mildly, is happy running neck and neck with larger more powerful cars.

After owning my car for almost three months I concur with this statement wholeheartedly. There is no way in hell this car only has 244 HP. I'm wondering if anyone has dyno tested a 2006 or 2007 6-speed Accord? I would bet my substantial life savings on the fact this car is under rated. Crank horsepower on this thing is easily under-rated by probably 15 horsepower at a minimum. Some of the cars I easily walk away from (the few who have challenged me that is) should not be happening with 244 HP and 211 TQ in a 3,300 lbs vehicle.

To say this 3.0L is a gem of an engine is an understatement. Completely smooth and quiet when driven sanely, but a beast when you get on the throttle with the most beautiful exhaust note you'd want to hear at around 5K RPM's plus. Then to get an average of 25 MPG in a mix of city/hwy with a fairly heavy right foot while running on regular unleaded is too good to be true. The car rocks plain and simple.

The 3.0 V6 is one of the best engines in the world. Every review I have read in print or online has nothing but phrases and the only harsh words have been something in the context like " you got to rev it to get max torque". Is that a problem or part of the fun? Its all fun to me, not many cars makers can make engines rev out as well as a Honda. Heck, I would be confident be say the 3.0 is as smooth or smoother than a Acura RL, I've read that in the RL when you stomp on it, it sounds thrashy, you'll never hear that about the 3.0.

There have been many times I've come back from a drive and said to myself " Amazing".

The 3.0 V6 is one of the best engines in the world.
There have been many times I've come back from a drive and said to myself " Amazing".



.....I drive one; will I argue? (No!) BUT, see the lower (higher numerical) final drive ratio for the 6M coupe? Keep in mind my 'tad over 5.5 '........

...should be a great fall season,

...best, ez...