From Jalopnik (http://jalopnik.com/cars/diesel/euro-honda-civic-spotted-in-detroit-is-diesel-prototype-297260.php)

Nice find.

I sure hope the first diesel isn't a Civic....

Diesel in the Ridge...I'll be first in line.

Euro Civic allowed the Euro Accord to the US!

The torque is outlandish on that thing. No monster from 0-60 but not awful.

I'm surprised that a Euro Civic can be registered in the US. Hell, I'm gonna import myself one from Europe!! :banana:

Of course Europe is going to get it before us. PICKLES. :(

I personaly have not seen either an Accord or Civic diesel so far in the UK. :dunno:

We seem to have millions of Peugeot/Citroen Vauxhall, VW, Mercs, etc diesels, but very very few Honda's other than the big multi people 4x4 wagons that mums use to pick the kids up from school and go shopping in!! :paranoid:

The small 1400cc diesels are very popular here, doing anything up to 80 mpg on the Mways, (and some of them running on veg oils at half the cost of diesel) young couples and the students love them to bits.

BTW, diesel fuel has now reached the 2$ a litre mark here in the UK. With petrol only a few cents behind it. :paranoid: If these prices continue, @ 36 mpg ish, no ones going to buy the new Honda Diesel Accord!! And the large petrol engined cars will be almost unsellable.. :dunno:
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Shouldn't the steering wheel be on the other side for a European car? maybe I'm wrong. :dunno: Also that car has push button start. Why can't we get that.

If Honda brings diesels here, I will probably trade my Accord off early for one. Even if it was a Civic. And particularly if it looked like that one instead of the ones we have here.

I like our Civics much better... I hope for '09 they make the whole Honda line-up with the available diesel engines. :thmsup:

I like the body style of that deisel civic. It kind of reminds me of the CRX, at least the rear glass portion, and the front is like the US coupe. The exhaust cutouts are very nice as well. Id give it a look if they are sold with a manual here.

I like the diesel Civic.. But i would rather the american one. :)

>>>Shouldn't the steering wheel be on the other side for a European car? maybe I'm wrong.<<<

As far as I know, only the UK drive on the left. EU drive on the right, i.e. same as the US :yes:

Maybe it came from the bad ole (historical) days when you met strangers on the road and needed to keep your sword-arm free.. Not much changes then huh? lmho . :banana: :naughty:
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>>>Shouldn't the steering wheel be on the other side for a European car? maybe I'm wrong.<<<

As far as I know, only the UK drive on the left. EU drive on the right, i.e. same as the US :yes:

Maybe it came from the bad ole (historical) days when you met strangers on the road and needed to keep your sword-arm free.. Not much changes then huh? lmho . :banana: :naughty:
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never know what you're gonna have to blast a sucka, errr, right?

I suspect there was a reason why this car was in Detroit.

The Saturn VUE has a Honda made J35 engine that GM acquired as part of a deal with Honda to get the GM Circle L Diesel engine in the Euro Civics. So there is a good chance that little civic has a GM engine in it.

The original engine was designed by Isuzu but now owned by General Motors and it is made in Poland. Lots of info in wikipedia about these engines.

I suspect there was a reason why this car was in Detroit.

The Saturn VUE has a Honda made J35 engine that GM acquired as part of a deal with Honda to get the GM Circle L Diesel engine in the Euro Civics. So there is a good chance that little civic has a GM engine in it.

The original engine was designed by Isuzu but now owned by General Motors and it is made in Poland. Lots of info in wikipedia about these engines.
nope, the i-CTDi is completely honda's own baby.

interesting why it would have michigan MFG plates though, since honda corporate doesnt have any physical presence in MI. perhaps ford/gm/chrysler are using it as a "study" vehicle or something. :dunno:

and its LHD because its from germany (thats a german dealer sticker on the rear window). only the UK uses RHD in europe.

Xcel over at cleanmpg.com had that car for a week. He posted a FE road test on it. Make it a 3 door hatch, coupe or sedan. I would get one. :)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/reviews/t-cleanmpg-reviews-the-2007-honda-civic-22l-icdti-turbo-diesel-6526.html

That's a very good article by Xcel. He could get 25MPG from a Kenworth loaded with 60,000 lbs.

That is a great article. I want one...but like many members have noted....I will wait for the second or third model year....at least with Honda's recent quality of first year models.

I'll go into debt to have a Civic Diesel :)

The Civic diesel is going into its fourth year of production in Europe. It will be new to us when it comes out here but I would think the bugs would have been worked out already. Accord diesel? That may be a different story,

I used to want an Accord diesel....but this next car won't replace the Tundra....it will be an addition. The Tundra will stay as the primary vehicle, but the Civic would be the work car :)

nope, the i-CTDi is completely honda's own baby.... .

Sorry, my bad! I wonder if the Honda-made i-CTDi still has the block of the GM Circle L diesel engine and the heads of the usual Honda i-VTEC and i-DSI technology added.

BTW, wikipedia is once again a bit off track.

Sorry, my bad! I wonder if the Honda-made i-CTDi still has the block of the GM Circle L diesel engine and the heads of the usual Honda i-VTEC and i-DSI technology added.

BTW, wikipedia is once again a bit off track.
nope, its all honda.

You can see a complete review of the European Civic with lots of pictures and technical specs here:
http://www.km77.com/marcas/honda/2006/civic/gama/t01.asp

For the Accord:
http://www.km77.com/marcas/honda/2006/accord/gama/t01.asp

And the CRV:
http://www.km77.com/00/honda/cr-v/t01.asp

The reviews are in Spanish, though - sorry about that :dunno:

All 3 of cars are available with the 140 hp 2.2 liter diesel.

Sorry, my bad! I wonder if the Honda-made i-CTDi still has the block of the GM Circle L diesel engine and the heads of the usual Honda i-VTEC and i-DSI technology added.

BTW, wikipedia is once again a bit off track.

Its all Honda right down the the casting tech and materials used. Its nothing like oilers built by anybody else. Its tech is very impressive!

The Civic diesel is going into its fourth year of production in Europe. It will be new to us when it comes out here but I would think the bugs would have been worked out already. Accord diesel? That may be a different story,

BOTH CIVIC AND ACCORD DIESEL NEED TO COME TO THE US! :yes: :yes: :yes: