: 2008+ (8th Generation) Honda Accord Reliability
mkaresh 09-11-2007, 06:21 AM TrueDelta reports absolute repair rates that make the differences between cars much clearer. Results are updated four times a year, to track cars closely as they age.
Thanks to this forum's help, for which we're very grateful, we had the first reliability information on the 2008 Accord. Additional participants always helpful--the larger the sample size, the more precise the results.
We especially need more 2009s.
Participants report repairs the month after they occur. When there are no repairs, they simply report an approximate odometer reading four times a year, at the end of each quarter.
To encourage participation, panel members receive full access to the results free of charge.
For the details, and to sign up to help out:
Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
plunk10 09-18-2007, 12:43 PM I hope they'll be more reliable than the early new generation toyota camrys were.
mkaresh 09-24-2007, 12:27 PM Yes, the 2007 Camry has not be faring especially well. Overall it's a bit better than average, but the V6 is quite a bit worse thanks to its transmission.
If enough owners of the 2008 Accord sign up in the next month or so, I can have initial results in February. The 500th Accord was enrolled yesterday--thanks partly to help from people here--but only a couple of these are 2008s so far.
mkaresh 10-20-2007, 09:02 PM CR recently made big news with their rating of the Camry. Many people seemed surprised.
Those of us who know better wondered--why didn't they say something sooner? TrueDelta announced that the V6 was faring badly back in August, and with sample size like CR's would have done this way back in February.
Right now I'm aiming for a February result for the 2008 Accord. But to do this I'll need a few dozen more owners signed up ASAP.
So, if you own a 2008, please sign up to participate in this research. It takes very little time, and will provide results quickly.
HondaPOD 10-20-2007, 09:20 PM I wasn't really too surprised. I like me some Honda. NOT Toyota. But i DO love the new Camrys.
Darth Do'Urden 11-04-2007, 12:06 AM I'm enrolled. 2008 Accord EX-l V-6 Coupe 6-Speed w/Navi.
MarkAT 11-04-2007, 03:41 AM Just enrolled.....2008 EX-L V6 sedan.....thanks for the invite!
Mark
mkaresh 11-04-2007, 05:56 AM You're very welcome. I'm very grateful to both of you for joining up.
The number of 2008 Accord owners who join up in the next couple of weeks will determine whether we have a result in February, or not. The Accord is a major new product, so of course having an initial result then, months ahead of anyone else, is a high priority.
If it happens, the Accord will be highlighted in the February press release, and this forum will be credited for helping make the result possible.
adrienski 11-04-2007, 08:46 AM Just signed up! Another 2008 EXL V6 Sedan w/Navi
StudmasterSteve 11-04-2007, 11:50 AM Im here as of now too 2008 Accord EXL V6 Coupe no navi,
08accordEX 11-04-2007, 01:31 PM yeah i signed up as well..
Darth Do'Urden 11-04-2007, 08:15 PM I'm good. Even got an email from ya with my member number on it. =)
08accordEX 11-04-2007, 09:05 PM i signed up a day or two ago.
forgot to post here.
trotgolfer 11-13-2007, 06:20 AM I'm in.
jang859 11-13-2007, 09:25 AM I'm in
bbrowncods 11-30-2007, 02:01 PM I'm in. 10 minutes ago.
mkaresh 12-06-2007, 09:36 AM Thanks, I appreciate it.
32 so far, which ties the Accord with the 2008 Infiniti G for most 2008s for a fall intro model.
More still necessary for a non-asterisked result in February, so please keep them coming!
Auto reliability research -- need more 2008s! (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
I'll sign up for my 08 coupe. Will have to do it at home. Can't access my home email from work to get my member #.
mkaresh 12-06-2007, 12:51 PM You don't need to know your member number to add a vehicle. All you need to know if you're an existing member is the email address you used before.
Road Glider 12-20-2007, 08:19 AM I registered for my '08 Accord EXL V6 with Navi in your reliability survey.
catbert430 12-20-2007, 08:25 AM Just enrolled.
accordnumber4 01-01-2008, 03:30 PM We are up to 45 now....
WisAccord 01-05-2008, 10:23 AM Joined a few days ago.
TheGreenMachine 01-05-2008, 03:40 PM Just signed up today and also joined this great forum at the same time. :)
plunk10 01-07-2008, 07:27 AM mkaresh- where do I enter the "purchased month" part in your survey? I've only had my car since september, though its now 4 model years old.
mkaresh 01-07-2008, 07:35 AM Thank you for asking.
The reliability survey itself always only covers the previous month. It's done this way to minimize bias. This survey can only be accessed via links in an email I send out.
The first time you respond to the survey, after completing it you'll be asked to fill out a second short survey that asks about bodystyle, powertrain, and when the car was purchased.
There's a second, on-site survey for people who want to post their entire repair histories. For this one, just entere the month purchased as the first entry.
bbrowncods 01-07-2008, 01:21 PM When do we get an email for the survey?
mkaresh 01-07-2008, 03:33 PM The first round went out last Thursday. The first follow-up will go out tomorrow to new members and to old members who have not yet responded this month.
If you didn't get a confirmation email when you signed up, and don't get that one, then there's a problem with your address--usually an overzealous spam or bulk mail filter.
I don't send any spam, but with over 18,000 members I do send a lot of mail, and this can trigger some of the less intelligent filters.
tang316 01-07-2008, 03:46 PM i just signed up
mkaresh 04-20-2008, 10:22 AM Over 100 owners of the 2008 have signed up. But a larger sample size would permit us to provide more detailed results in the future.
Vehicle reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
mkaresh 05-18-2008, 09:42 AM The May results were recently posted. The 2008 Accord continues to have a very low repair rate.
That said, I've had a couple reports of noise/vibration problems with the V6 that cannot be repaired--likely due to the ACM. So I'll be paying attention to this potential problem.
For the full set of results, and to sign up (if you haven't already):
TrueDelta Vehicle Reliability Survey results (http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php)
elp_jc 06-15-2008, 04:06 PM Do 6MTs count? I only have a week with my car, and 200 miles, but if you still want my input (or in the future), let me know and I'd sign up. Later.
JC
mkaresh 06-15-2008, 04:28 PM Do 6MTs count? I only have a week with my car, and 200 miles, but if you still want my input (or in the future), let me know and I'd sign up. Later.
JC
6MTs certainly count. You won't be able to respond this month, but you can starting next month--the main survey always covers the previous month.
My suggestion: go ahead and sign up, so you won't forget. Then just ignore the email for the survey this month or enter -1 for the odometer reading.
USAFRET 06-16-2008, 04:46 AM I just enrolled my 08 Accord EX-L I-4, A5 w/Nav
Do I only report problems I have had the dealer correct, or issues I have but not yet taken in for repair?
mkaresh 06-16-2008, 05:54 AM The former. Or, more precisely, things you asked a service writer to write up--the shop might have come back with "they all do that."
Also be aware that there are two reliability surveys. The main one you'll receive regular emails for. The only way to access the survey is by clicking a link in these emails. This makes things quicker easier, because there's no need to sign in, or even remember to go to the site.
The second one, which is optional, is for repairs that cannot be submitted on the main survey because they occurred before joining.
Accordlover 06-16-2008, 05:59 AM The former. Or, more precisely, things you asked a service writer to write up--the shop might have come back with "they all do that."
Here's my question.
How does that make for quality reliability data?
Say I go into Honda and say "My new 2008 Honda Accord doesn't shift smoothly, especially when going from Park to Reverse or Park to Drive."
That's a common Honda trait.
So when someone is on your reliability tracking site, and mentions things like this, that really are known Honda quirks if you will, that knocks against its reliability record?:dunno:
mkaresh 06-16-2008, 06:35 AM With the current analysis, no, for the reason you bring up.
I have people report everything they reported to the dealer. But the current analysis only includes successfully completed repairs. With these, the dealer agreed there was a problem and was able to do something to make the problem go away. So we can be quite sure there was a problem.
I ask for everything in case I decide to conduct a second, broader analysis in the future, and to learn of problems that might be widespread but that the manufacturer might not have a fix for yet.
Here's my question.
How does that make for quality reliability data?
Say I go into Honda and say "My new 2008 Honda Accord doesn't shift smoothly, especially when going from Park to Reverse or Park to Drive."
That's a common Honda trait.
So when someone is on your reliability tracking site, and mentions things like this, that really are known Honda quirks if you will, that knocks against its reliability record?:dunno:
Rattles are a common trait too. I stopped even talking to the dealer about them because most of the rattles are interminnent and the dealer people are not exactly keen on reproducing them. I am sure a lot of ppl gave up as well, so effectively there's a quality aspect that goes underreported. There's quirks like delayed shifting and there's quality issues.
USAFRET 06-16-2008, 06:53 AM Rattles are a common trait too. I stopped even talking to the dealer about them because most of the rattles are interminnent and the dealer people are not exactly keen on reproducing them. I am sure a lot of ppl gave up as well, so effectively there's a quality aspect that goes underreported. There's quirks like delayed shifting and there's quality issues.
I agree, I have a dash and rear parcel rattle/buzz (call it what you will) and so far the dealer has told me "they don't want to tear into the dash as they usualy only make matters worse". So I guess I need to learn to love and enjoy this Honda "trait" since it's not a defect until my dealer attempts to repair it.
Maybe there should be another category that identifes "issues" the dealer won't or can't fix. I'm sure future Honda buyers would like to know this as well.
I agree, I have a dash and rear parcel rattle/buzz (call it what you will) and so far the dealer has told me "they don't want to tear into the dash as they usualy only make matters worse". So I guess I need to learn to love and enjoy this Honda "trait" since it's not a defect until my dealer attempts to repair it.
Maybe there should be another category that identifes "issues" the dealer won't or can't fix. I'm sure future Honda buyers would like to know this as well.
oh gee....they don't seem to trust their techs to remove plastic panels and put them back carefully :) i took various trim pieces and placed them back with no ill effect :) i took the radio out, replaced the parcel shelf, all that and no new rattles. Well, except the radio mounts needed to be lubed after that because of the chirping sound they started making. Fixed that with no disasembly at all.
I replaced an inner door handle and the steering column trim and proabably few other things that I can't recall...no new rattles.
The sad part is that porbably 9 out of 10 of my DYI items didn't fix anything at all. However I did managed to nail a couple of nasty ones.
All the trouble and not a ding in the Accord rating, cause I am not supposed to submit these. If we started collectig the DIY jobs for issues like this Accord would sink down in the list for sure.
mkaresh 06-16-2008, 07:26 AM The sad part is that porbably 9 out of 10 of my DYI items didn't fix anything at all. However I did managed to nail a couple of nasty ones.
All the trouble and not a ding in the Accord rating, cause I am not supposed to submit these. If we started collectig the DIY jobs for issues like this Accord would sink down in the list for sure.
Actually, DIY jobs are supposed to be reported. One of the questions on the survey asks who performed the repair, and one of the options is "self."
The current analysis would only include those that successfully fixed something. I doubt there'd actually be enough to have a major impact on the result.
If anyone needs to make corrections/additions, please send me an email by replying to any email you've gotten from me or clicking on the "contact us" link at the bottom of every page of the site.
mkaresh 06-16-2008, 07:29 AM Maybe there should be another category that identifes "issues" the dealer won't or can't fix. I'm sure future Honda buyers would like to know this as well.
I do collect this data, I just don't use it in the current analysis. I agree that it would be helpful to provide some measure of hard to solve problems and/or dealer competence, but that will require a larger sample size, maybe even a much larger sample size, than the current analysis, because all dealers aren't the same.
Actually, DIY jobs are supposed to be reported. One of the questions on the survey asks who performed the repair, and one of the options is "self."
The current analysis would only include those that successfully fixed something. I doubt there'd actually be enough to have a major impact on the result.
If anyone needs to make corrections/additions, please send me an email by replying to any email you've gotten from me or clicking on the "contact us" link at the bottom of every page of the site.
Hm...ok. The problem with that is in my case most of these don't fix anything. But point taken, I will track the succesfull ones from now on.
As to whether it would affect the result...I seem to recall in some cars (can't remember G35 or maybe a 3 series BMW) where you commented that detached trim is a common problem...But if the dealer wasn't fixing those people would eventually learn with it maybe not bother? In Accords case, i can think of several people on this forum who bailed our their accords and rattling was at least a major contributon. Ask stevencrosbie :)
mkaresh 06-16-2008, 07:42 AM I'd like to get previous successfull DIYs recorded if they occurred after you started participating. The unsuccessful ones are not really necessary.
I have a separate problem category for rattles, in case I want to perform the analysis without them. They are the problem type that concerns me most, for many reasons.
The challenge to manufacturers is that, as they make car interiors quieter, rattles become more evident and annoying.
I'd like to get previous successfull DIYs recorded if they occurred after you started participating. The unsuccessful ones are not really necessary.
I have a separate problem category for rattles, in case I want to perform the analysis without them. They are the problem type that concerns me most, for many reasons.
The challenge to manufacturers is that, as they make car interiors quieter, rattles become more evident and annoying.
ok, I am reporting these now. The mileage/date will be my best guess though.
Should I report a DIY fix for a problem reported earlier that the dealer failed to fix?
PS Gen 7 Accords are not that quiet :)
mkaresh 06-16-2008, 07:57 AM Best guess will be fine on the mileage/date.
I would like you to email me, just so I can check for loose ends.
The successful DIY follow-up to an unsuccessful dealer repair should certainly be reported, so that the dealer repair gets "closed out" and doesn't keep showing up as an "open issue."
Best guess will be fine on the mileage/date.
I would like you to email me, just so I can check for loose ends.
The successful DIY follow-up to an unsuccessful dealer repair should certainly be reported, so that the dealer repair gets "closed out" and doesn't keep showing up as an "open issue."
done.
mkaresh 07-09-2008, 09:20 AM Total number of Accords signed up now 899.
Who'll be #900?
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kopimon 07-09-2008, 09:48 AM I signed up just now
mkaresh 07-09-2008, 09:50 AM Seems we have our answer!
Thanks, I appreciate it. Time to thank this forum on my homepage.
Really looking forward to #1,000...
kopimon 07-09-2008, 10:00 AM Seems we have our answer!
Thanks, I appreciate it. Time to thank this forum on my homepage.
Really looking forward to #1,000...
NP, I look forward to checking out previous results when I get home later tonight. I have a possible repair coming up tomorrow that I can report in the survey next month.
xxDaJackalxx 07-09-2008, 10:22 AM Just signed up! Entered all fuel economy numbers to date, but didn't see where to do reliability and odo.
3400 and no repairs, hums like it should.
mkaresh 07-09-2008, 10:26 AM I send out a monthly email with a link directly to the reliability survey.
I'll probably next add new vehicles when a follow-up goes out in two weeks.
ksills 08-06-2008, 09:45 AM Just registered Mine
mkaresh 09-05-2008, 08:57 AM Thanks, I appreciate it.
That result has been posted, and the new Accord continues to have a low repair rate: about 34 successful repair trips per 100 cars per year. This is especially good for a design in its first year.
On a side note, 972 Accord owners have signed up so far, including 159 2008s. Yeah, you guys are awesome. Even more awesome: becoming the first model with 1,000 owners signed up. Soon?
The full set of results:
TrueDelta Vehicle Reliability Survey results (http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php)
Coolcrush 09-05-2008, 09:18 AM Just signed up
mkaresh 09-22-2008, 06:54 AM Just wanted to thank everyone here who has been participating - this morning the Accord became the first model with 1,000 cars signed up.
The next closest model, the BMW 3-Series, is at 784. And the Camry? 570. As in not close.
The more we have, the better the information we can provide.
Vehicle reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
Honda Funatic 10-29-2008, 06:56 PM Just signed up all 3 of my Hondas !!
robsarj 10-29-2008, 08:04 PM I'm In!
hondaracer4vtec 10-30-2008, 05:32 AM I Just signed up all 4 of my accords
mkaresh 11-27-2008, 07:35 AM Thanks, I appreciate it.
We recently posted updated results. The 2008 Accord continues to require few repairs. The posted repair rate is 32 successful repair trips per 100 vehicles per year, which is better than average.
Next update in February. We will be providing more detail for models with large sample sizes, and the 2008 Accord should qualify. The more data we have, the more information we can provide.
For the full set of results, and to sign up to help:
TrueDelta Vehicle Reliability Survey results (http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php)
mkaresh 02-19-2009, 06:55 AM We've updated the result for the 2008 Accord. With 30 repair trips per 100 cars per year, it remains better than average.
Excellent participation by 2008 Accord owners--thanks, guys. We'll have further updates in May, August, and November. Additional participants needed, especially for the 2009.
We now have a separate results page for each model that includes the results for competitors. The one for the Accord:
Honda Accord reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108&email=Guest)
mkaresh 03-14-2009, 07:32 AM In about a month we'll start previewing the next set of results to participants. More always helpful.
We especially need 2009s.
Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
plunk10 03-26-2009, 02:31 PM We especially need 2009s.
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I can believe that as a lot of people buy the first year of release. I bet the same thing happened where you have a ton more 2003 Accords than the 2004 model.
mkaresh 03-26-2009, 03:46 PM It's not so much that people buy the first year, as that the people most into cars tend to buy the first year. Since people who are really into cars are most likely to hear about my site...yes, we tend to have more people for the first year of just about any design...but we have more 2004s than 2003s...
mkaresh 05-10-2009, 10:42 AM Update soon.
The 1,250th Accord recently joined--posted a thank-you to this forum on our homepage.
198 2008s--#200 in the next day or two?
More 2009s have joined, but we're still a couple short of the minimum for the current model year. We'd like to have a full result for the 2009 in August. If you own a 2009, we need your help to make this happen.
Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
mkaresh 06-15-2009, 09:42 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through March 2009. In terms of successful repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2008: 36, better than average, and especially good for a car in its first year
A big thanks to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and also provide results for the 2009--especially need more 2009s.
Honda Accord reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108&email=Guest)
mkaresh 07-15-2009, 07:42 AM Now 246 Accords of this generation signed up. Great participation by owners of the 2008, not so much for the 2009--no doubt because sales have been lower. What this means: while more 2008s would be helpful, we especially need more 2009s. Updated results next month.
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09^CBP^6MT 07-15-2009, 07:50 AM I will sign up 09 6mt.
CDuke619 07-15-2009, 10:34 AM signed up 09
whiteDOHC 07-15-2009, 04:27 PM Just signed up my 2009...:thmsup:
09^CBP^6MT 07-15-2009, 04:48 PM Well there is 3, 09's in one day!
GigaS27 07-16-2009, 07:24 AM I hope no body buys the 2009 accords till they change the design flaws (rear brakes, ac condensor, etc...)
09^CBP^6MT 07-16-2009, 08:26 AM Don't hold your breath on that hope.
v-6 nolo 07-16-2009, 08:48 AM Ac Condenser? tons of cars have the same issue as the accord.
GigaS27 07-16-2009, 08:51 AM Ac Condenser? tons of cars have the same issue as the accord.
Then the car companies better start working on it.
yanksingh 07-16-2009, 09:42 AM signed up 09
YRMed 07-16-2009, 09:48 AM Then the car companies better start working on it.
Whats wrong with your AC Condenser?
v-6 nolo 07-16-2009, 09:56 AM i have heard of the condenser getting hit by debris and breaking, thus all the wire screens people put behind the lower grill, but this happens with tons of other cars/trucks/ect.
That is what i am assuming he is talking about.l
09^CBP^6MT 07-16-2009, 10:07 AM i have heard of the condenser getting hit by debris and breaking, thus all the wire screens people put behind the lower grill, but this happens with tons of other cars/trucks/ect.
That is what i am assuming he is talking about.l
10-4:yes:
GigaS27 07-16-2009, 10:25 AM That is correct.
mkaresh 08-13-2009, 07:28 AM Yes, I'm not sure why this is still a problem with any cars, but it is.
Updated results soon. Especially need more 2009s and (once they arrive) 2010s.
Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
mkaresh 09-14-2009, 06:58 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through June 2009. In terms of successful repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 39, about average but close to "better than average"
2008: 27, better than average
A big thanks, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
Honda Accord reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108&email=Guest)
mkaresh 10-19-2009, 06:45 AM Updated results next month. Additional participants always helpful.
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dirtycustoms 10-19-2009, 08:15 AM Just saw this. If you're looking for anymore 08's I might be a good one for ya. I've got more miles on mine than anyone Ive ever heard of.
mkaresh 10-19-2009, 10:00 AM Most of anyone in the survey currently is 69k.
One thing I'd like to do, but it'll require more people, is to separately track the high mileage cars. I've found that about one driver in a hundred drives more than 36,000 miles a year.
Your driving--that's just insane. Are you in the car 12 hours a day?
dirtycustoms 10-19-2009, 11:41 AM Yessir! I leave the house just before noon and get home just after midnight.
mkaresh 10-19-2009, 02:17 PM Do you drive the entire 12 hours?
dirtycustoms 10-19-2009, 05:44 PM For the most part. I get a couple lunch breaks along the way. Honda should sponsor me!
Darth Do'Urden 10-19-2009, 05:53 PM Dude...I don't know what your job is, but 650/day is just retarded! 251k miles?!? Holy crap...I don't like ANY car that much. Keep us posted...I want to know how well she's doin' at 500k (next week =P).
What maintenance have you had to do? How many brake changes?
dirtycustoms 10-19-2009, 06:35 PM I'm pretty much a long haul courier. The maintenance has been pretty light. Oil every 2 weeks, trans fluid every 60k, plugs every 110k, power steering fluid flushed once a year, brakes get changed when the front shakes or the rear makes noise. I rarely use em, so mine will outlast most. I am currently havin a few issues... the battery is dead every morning if its not on the charger over night. Replaced the batt and alt, and still the same thing. The ac is getting replaced this weekend. And still need to find aftermarket calipers for the rear.
mkaresh 11-18-2009, 09:09 AM 1499 Accords now signed up.
Who'll be #1500?
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L's TLS 11-18-2009, 09:46 AM I just signed up.
mkaresh 11-18-2009, 10:41 AM Thanks. We're now over 1,500. I put up a news item thanking this forum on our homepage.
So, how soon to 1,750?
mkaresh 11-25-2009, 07:33 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through September 30, 2009. In terms of successful repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 35
2008: 26
Both are better than average, through there is one common problem with rattles from broken welds in the sedan's package shelf.
We've also introduced two new statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 Accord, the percentage with no repairs is about 83, and the percentage of lemons is less than one.
A big thanks, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
Honda Accord reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108&email=Guest)
tommypenguin 11-25-2009, 08:24 AM I'll sign up my 10 Accord over the 4 day weekend.
mkaresh 12-30-2009, 06:47 AM Thanks, Tommy.
Unfortunately, there continue to be few other 2010s signed up. Very much need more of them. Additional 2008s and 2009s also helpful.
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BPearl2010 12-30-2009, 06:59 AM I'm in... Already signed up
mkaresh 02-03-2010, 07:15 AM Now ten 2010s signed up. Some headway, but still far from the 89 2009s and 228 2008s. At least 15 more 2010s needed ASAP to have a result in May.
Not yet signed up? Details here:
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mkaresh 03-11-2010, 07:14 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through December 31, 2009. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 34
2008: 26
Both are better than average, through there is one common problem with rattles from broken welds in the sedan's package shelf.
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 Accord, the percentage with no repairs is about 79, and the percentage of lemons is less than one.
A big thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
Honda Accord reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108&email=Guest)
mkaresh 04-13-2010, 07:20 AM Just enhanced the related repair history survey so that it can (optionally) be used as a personal car maintenance record.
As always, more participants would be helpful. Continue to especially need more 2010s.
Updated Car Reliability Survey results in May, with a preview for participants soon.
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mkaresh 05-18-2010, 07:52 AM That update later this week.
Continue to especially need more 2010s, and 2011s once they're available.
It's not so much that people buy the first year, as that the people most into cars tend to buy the first year. Since people who are really into cars are most likely to hear about my site...yes, we tend to have more people for the first year of just about any design...but we have more 2004s than 2003s...
Just found this thread. I have never heard of your site but it looks interesting.
I'm only "into" cars from the perspective of being a good driver, but studying the latest and greatest isn't my thing. Your statement about people into cars buying a first model year of a new car is enlightening. I would never buy a first model year of a car, as those are 99% the most unreliable and problematic of any year. I do appreciate the early adapters as they tend to make a better product for me. I'm sure my 2010 is more reliable because of all the issues the 2008 owners have reported. No problem with that.
Not only with cars, but I don't buy any new tech the minute it comes out, nothing. You always end up getting the most unreliable and expensive version of the product, but yet people still do this all the time, and God love em. Reminds me of the ridiculousness and insanity when the XBox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 were released. People were sleeping outside the stores, fighting, paying $1,000 on ebay and all kinds of other stupid crap to get one immediately. I just bought my first PS3 (250 gig hd) a month ago and I paid $300 for it. How stupid do the people who bought the first plasma tv's feel when they see their $10,000 tv selling for $2,000 now? It's just general impatience, most people don't have patience to wait for things they want but ultimately those people always benefit those of us who do.
I'll sign my 2010 at your site too.
mkaresh 06-24-2010, 09:43 AM Many people avoid cars in their first model year. But these people are apparently much less likely to be active on car sites.
There are now 44 2010s signed up, an improvement from earlier but still well behind the 98 2009s and 238 2008s.
mkaresh 08-02-2010, 08:33 AM Now 56 2010s. Slow start, but catching up to earlier years now. 101 for the 2009. 1873 for all years of the Accord.
To help provide the best possible information on your year:
Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
mkaresh 09-12-2010, 09:55 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through June 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the more recent months until the summer or even fall of next year.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 10
2009: 28
2008: 39
All are better than average.
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the Accord, the percentage with no repairs is about 75 for the 2008 and 78 for the 2009, and the percentage of lemons is about one for the 2008 and less than one for the 2009.
Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Honda Accord reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
mkaresh 10-20-2010, 06:52 AM Today the Accord became the first model with 2,000 cars signed up to help with the survey. Thanks, guys.
Updated reliability stats next month.
As always, the more owners participate, the better the information we can provide to everyone.
Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)
BluePearl 10-20-2010, 09:17 AM I signed up but did not receive any email confirmation. I do not also know how I can access the web site. I tried but it is asking for email and membership number. I did not receive my membership number.
mkaresh 10-20-2010, 09:32 AM I signed up but did not receive any email confirmation. I do not also know how I can access the web site. I tried but it is asking for email and membership number. I did not receive my membership number.
This is generally because your email provider is misidentifying the email as spam and putting it somewhere other than your inbox. If you have a spam or bulk folder, please check it. If you use screening software like boxbe, you'll have to whitelist the email address michael@[site's name].
If none of this works, please contact me here:
http://www.truedelta.com/contact.php
mkaresh 12-07-2010, 09:18 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 6
2009: 32
2008: 41
All are better than average.
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the Accord, the percentage with no repairs is about 72 for the 2008 and 70 for the 2009, and the percentage of lemons is about 3 for the 2008 and less than one for the 2009.
Honda Accord Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Honda Accord reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
mkaresh 02-10-2011, 08:56 AM We have some new pages that display all reported repairs by problem area:
2008 Honda Accord problem reports (http://www.truedelta.com/car-problem-descriptions.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108&my=2008&gc=)
From this page it's possible to select a different model year or problem area.
bowtiefan 02-10-2011, 03:55 PM Good information!!
mkaresh 04-22-2011, 10:44 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through December 31, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since last April until the summer or even fall of this year.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 20
2009: 30
2008: 39
All are better than average.
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the Accord, the percentage with no repairs is about 77 for the 2008 and 70 for the 2009, and the percentage of lemons is about 3 for the 2008 and less than one for the 2009.
Honda Accord Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help provide this information (especially need more 2011s):
Honda Accord reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
mkaresh 08-08-2011, 07:39 AM We have updated results for the Accord to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 19
2009: 30
2008: 36
All are better than average.
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
2010: 88, < 1
2009: 77, < 1
2008: 82, 3
Honda Accord Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Honda Accord reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
mkaresh 11-17-2011, 10:26 AM We have updated our car reliability stats for the Honda Accord to include owner experiences through June 30, 2011.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2011: no repairs reported
2010: 23
2009: 29
2008: 30
All are better than average.
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
2010: 83, < 1
2009: 74, < 1
2008: 82, 3
Honda Accord Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Honda Accord reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Honda&mc=108)
mkaresh 04-11-2012, 08:10 AM We have updated our reliability stats for the Accord (on our redesigned site) to include owner experiences through December 31, 2011.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2011: 9
2010: 21
2009: 31
2008: 30
All are better than average.
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
2010: 89, < 1
2009: 66, < 1
2008: 78, < 1
Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Honda Accord reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Honda-Accord/reliability-108)
Honda Accord Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/Honda-Accord/lemon-odds-108)
CtheW0rld 04-11-2012, 08:39 AM i have a 2011 coupe, bought in october 2010. not a single issue.
mkaresh 10-12-2012, 11:09 AM We have updated our reliability stats for the Accord to include owner experiences through June 30, 2012.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2012: 51, about average, but very small sample size (especially need more of these!)
2011: 10, better than average
2010: 25, better than average
2009: 40, about average on recalibrated scale
2008: 29, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
2011: 92, < 1
2010: 78, < 1
2009: 71, 2
2008: 74, < 1
We'll have further updates in November and February.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Honda Accord reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Honda-Accord/reliability-108)
mkaresh 01-28-2013, 08:27 AM We have updated our reliability stats for the Accord to include owner experiences through September 30, 2012.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2012: 31, about average, but small sample size (especially need more of these!)
2011: 6, better than average
2010: 20, better than average
2009: 34, better than average
2008: 25, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
2011: 96, < 1
2010: 80, < 1
2009: 65, < 1
2008: 83, < 1
We'll have further updates in February and May. The more owners participate, the more precise these will be.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Honda Accord reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Honda-Accord/reliability-108)
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