Just noticed this review, it is as expected. With one exception (of course)....

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=122825?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2 .*

The following paragraphs -

"At the test track, the new Accord hit 60 mph in 7.1 seconds and ran the quarter-mile in 15.5 seconds at 91.8 mph. That's a solid improvement over the Accord in our last V6 Family Sedan Comparison Test, but it's still well behind the Camry V6 that whomped to 60 in just 6.5 seconds and scorched the quarter in 14.6 seconds at 97.3 mph."

"The Camry's V6 is also rated at 268 hp and the Toyota weighs a little less than the 3,572-pound Accord, but the biggest problem is the Accord's engine electronics. With the standard VSA stability control turned off, the Accord's computer doesn't allow full-throttle acceleration until about 20 mph. At that speed, the car barks the tires and takes off, but by that time any chance of out-sprinting the Toyota is long gone."

Don't remember if I've read about that VSA "feature" previously.

I think it might be the new torque management system in the Accord to reduce the Torque Steer. The 06 and newer TLs have it as well.

Tundra has it too. All of these cars would be faster without it...but I think they put in on for safety concerns.

Maybe this is why people think the new Accord is slower...although with that new engine, I would imagine it would rock the 7th gen...

Thanks for the link ;)

Yeah, like Steve said about the torque management and stuff. Even though the Camry won Edmunds comparison, I would still take the Accord over the Camry ANYDAY. The ride is firmer yet not too firm like the Altima. The Camry seems boring BC of the "TOO SOFT" ride. Accord wins IMO.

Yeah, like Steve said about the torque management and stuff.Even thought the Camry won Edmunds comparison, I would still take the Accord over the Camry ANYDAY. The ride is firmer yet not too firm. The Camry seems boring BC of the "TOO SOFT" ride. Accord wins IMO.

The 07 SE V6 brings alot to the table. Although more money than an 07 Accord.

I might actually say it was almost fun driving it.:paranoid:

Well the SE might be BC of the suspension upgrades... :dunno:

The 07 SE V6 brings alot to the table. Although more money than an 07 Accord.

I might actually say it was almost fun driving it.:paranoid:

I am going to make a quick post on 08 accord vs 08 camry SE.

I went car shopping last friday for a new commuter. My choice was down to 08 Accord EXL-V6 vs Camry SE V6.

I drove the accord 1st and it was my 1st choice based on my previous experience with Accord and Camry (had both previously). My 92, 94, 98 accord all were decent handling family car. But all had quality issues. My 93 camry drove like a boat and handled as such, but it was durable.

After driving the accord EXL-V6. My initial impression were as follows-

1. Engine feels very weak at low end.
2. Engine is a bit loud and rough.
3. Transmission does not shift that smooth.
4. The engine and transmission does not like each other. Simply put, they don't work well together. The accord feels very sluggish.
5. The dash plastic feels very cheap. Too many buttons.
6. Handling is okay for a family car. Steering response is good, but its a little overboosted at high speed.
7. Very noticeable body roll.
8. I hate the front seat. Too wide and does not offer any waist support.

Overall- The accord is very big but does not drive big. However, it is not as nimble as I had hoped. The interior is very roomy. Overall, its a decent car.

I was set to buy one but the dealer does not have a EXL-V6 with navi in stock.

I went over to Toyota to test the camry v6 SE just to make sure that I do my homework. I wasn't expecting much from Camry. But I was wrong.
Here is my take on the camry.

1. Engine- Camry's v6 is smoother than quieter than the Accord V6. The power delivery is smooth with excellent low end punch.
2. 6 speed automatic is ultra smooth and work exceptionally well with the v6 to deliver ultra quick acceleration. The camry hauls a$$ compare to the accord.
3. One area that accord does well in the past is the handling. But Camry SE beat accord soundly in that deparment as well. The steering response is quiet good on the camry. Bodyroll is significantly less than Accord. Ride is also firmer, which i liked. Overall, Camry SE is feels more nimble than the accord. Camry is actually more fun to drive.
4. I did not liked Camry SE all dark interior. This is where accord interior feels much better and soundly beats Camry in this aspect.
5. Camry SE's seat is significantly better than Accord. It provided excellent support for my waist.

I was glad that i take the time to drive the camry SE. Camry is the driver's car vs the accord. It felt strange to have a Toyota family car out handle a honda sedan. The camry SE is a much more capable car for me.

BTW, I am not here to start a flaming war. So, I will not respond to any other thread. Just to give my .02 worth.

Yes- i am in process of buying a Aloe green metallic Camry SE V6.

Can you post pictures of your new Camry. The Tundra's 6 speed auto is smooth as butter is shifts quickly. Very goo tranny.

Interesting...I narrowed my search down to the same two cars before purchasing too. For me, there was no comparison between the camry and the accord though. I looked at a 4cylinder SE camry with leather, sunroof etc, perfectly comparable to the accord that I bought in the end. Maybe the 4 cylinder makes all the difference but I had a totally opposite reaction to the camry. The 4cylinder in the camry felt very strained and it wasn't the quietest in my test drive:thumbsdow. The steering in the accord felt underpowered, honestly it drove like a boat compared to the accord:thumbsdow. The interior of the camry was superbland and the leather didn't feel very good quality:thumbsdow. BUT with all that said, the camry was second only to the accord IMO, I drove several other cars and the accord and camry quickly eliminated the competition. While I feel the accord is much better looking and has a more sporty feel than the camry, the camry SE is not a bad looking car by any means (looks are always subjective). The only camry I would consider is the SE, the others are ugly IMO so good choice there:thmsup:. I drove them both twice before deciding to buy and while I'm glad I bought the accord, I think the camry is a great car overall:thmsup: Make sure to post some pics of your new ride when you take delivery and congrats!

Oh yeah, you said the accord doesn't provide good waist support, just wondering if you noticed the power lumbar support?

I am picking up the camry this weekend as the dealer did not have the aloe green in stock (they only had two silver and one blue). They are doing a swap with another dealer and i should have the car by this weekend.

The issue with Accord's driver seat is not the lumbar support. The seat are too flat. The camry SE's seat has more side bolster and that support my waist better.

I did not like the normal Camry seat as well. It had the same problem with Accord's seat. (I test drove the Camry Hybrid as well). The Camry 4 cylinder is very loud and rough. I did not drive the Accord 4 cylinder because I had made up my mind on the V6. So i really can't comment on the 4 cylinder performance.

Given that Camry's 4 cylindar is very weak, i am pretty sure it is a dog to drive.

The steering in the accord felt underpowered, honestly it drove like a boat compared to the accord:thumbsdow.


Don't you mean the Camry's steering?? :thmsup:

The camry's 158HP I4 is a piece of junk next to the 177HP or 190HP Accord I4's.

I think the car's kinda have good and bad sides.

V6 AT Car - Accord EX V6 or Camry SE V6?

Camry SE V6

I4 AT Car - Accord EX or Camry SE
Accord EX

The SE is the ONLY trim of camry I could see myself ever driving. The others have a lot more cush.

The camry 4 cylinder has 32 less than the accord so I'm sure that had something to do with it, but it looks like the v6 is pretty powerful. And yes, I meant to say the camry's steering felt underpowered, thanks for the correction HondaPOD.

The camry's 158HP I4 is a piece of junk next to the 177HP or 190HP Accord I4's.

I think the car's kinda have good and bad sides.

V6 AT Car - Accord EX V6 or Camry SE V6?

Camry SE V6

I4 AT Car - Accord EX or Camry SE
Accord EX

The SE is the ONLY trim of camry I could see myself ever driving. The others have a lot more cush.





True, but i still think i wouldn' buy a Camry. Even in the SE the front grill looks fishy. Somethings wrong with it. But i can't place it. Accord is my #1 choice in the class. :thmsup:

I wouldn't buy a v6 camry over a v6 accord but if I were to buy a camry it would have to be a se. Looks soo much better

I am picking up the camry this weekend as the dealer did not have the aloe green in stock (they only had two silver and one blue). They are doing a swap with another dealer and i should have the car by this weekend.

The issue with Accord's driver seat is not the lumbar support. The seat are too flat. The camry SE's seat has more side bolster and that support my waist better.

I did not like the normal Camry seat as well. It had the same problem with Accord's seat. (I test drove the Camry Hybrid as well). The Camry 4 cylinder is very loud and rough. I did not drive the Accord 4 cylinder because I had made up my mind on the V6. So i really can't comment on the 4 cylinder performance.

Given that Camry's 4 cylindar is very weak, i am pretty sure it is a dog to drive.


Hi KrispyKreme...........so nice to see you still loving Toyota's over Honda's. I remember before you got banned from OdyClub.com you use to always praise the Sienna and bash the competition without facts or anything to back your claims up. Its nice to see you opinions though, and to know your still on forums. :thmsup:

Hi KrispyKreme...........so nice to see you still loving Toyota's over Honda's. I remember before you got banned from OdyClub.com you use to always praise the Sienna and bash the competition without facts or anything to back your claims up. Its nice to see you opinions though, and to know your still on forums. :thmsup:

Nice to see you. Actually i did not get banned on the Odyclub.com. I just see no point of arguing since people sees things differently. I did see that all people turned against Norb over the runflat tire.

As far as fact goes, I simply put as much straight answer i know or based on what i see fit. If you had looked over the post i made, i don't think i made comment that is without fact or biased. Especially when someone claimed there is a Odyssey SIR in US.

My sienna has been great thus far at over 65k miles. I am also thinking of dumping it soon for another 08 Sienna.

I only made one post to voice the opinion on the accord because i was browing both toyotanation and drive accord to see what people are saying on each and see what else i can gather.

So far i think this forum has been very open minded. I really never intended to drag out arguement one or another.

Same holds true with Odyssey and Sienna. I was not looking for a good handling minivan, I was looking for a soft riding minivan that has more room and HID. I am not sure why on Odyclub.com when you post something different a lot of people such as Norb would get all hot about it. :dunno:

Since I am not going to buy an Odyssey, so i simply chose not to comment on it. Although i still enjoy reading the forum.

I wouldn't buy a v6 camry over a v6 accord but if I were to buy a camry it would have to be a se. Looks soo much better

By the way did any one notice the rims on the tan camry pic I posted. The car is sitting in a room, looks to be stationary but it looks like the wheels are moving? Is toyota pushing spinners now? lol :lmao:

By the way, I knew the camry costs more, but I didn't know how much more until I equipped the camry with the options that would be standard on an accord ex-l v6, the camry se runs $31,841 with simlar options to an 08ex-l for $28,695. Wow!

By the way did any one notice the rims on the tan camry pic I posted. The car is sitting in a room, looks to be stationary but it looks like the wheels are moving? Is toyota pushing spinners now? lol :lmao:

By the way, I knew the camry costs more, but I didn't know how much more until I equipped the camry with the options that would be standard on an accord ex-l v6, the camry se runs $31,841 with simlar options to an 08ex-l for $28,695. Wow!
But until the new 2008 Accord hype runs its course the discounts on the older Camry will narrow that difference in price-maybe totally.

But until the new 2008 Accord hype runs its course the discounts on the older Camry will narrow that difference in price-maybe totally.

Ya' think? :dunno: I bought mine for well below MSRP. I doubt the camry will come close in price, even now. If you are serious about buying, you can get a deal right now, the deals may get better as time goes by but make no mistake you don't have to pay full MSRP now.

I am going to make a quick post on 08 accord vs 08 camry SE.

I went car shopping last friday for a new commuter. My choice was down to 08 Accord EXL-V6 vs Camry SE V6.

I drove the accord 1st and it was my 1st choice based on my previous experience with Accord and Camry (had both previously). My 92, 94, 98 accord all were decent handling family car. But all had quality issues. My 93 camry drove like a boat and handled as such, but it was durable.

After driving the accord EXL-V6. My initial impression were as follows-

1. Engine feels very weak at low end.
2. Engine is a bit loud and rough.
3. Transmission does not shift that smooth.
4. The engine and transmission does not like each other. Simply put, they don't work well together. The accord feels very sluggish.
5. The dash plastic feels very cheap. Too many buttons.
6. Handling is okay for a family car. Steering response is good, but its a little overboosted at high speed.
7. Very noticeable body roll.
8. I hate the front seat. Too wide and does not offer any waist support.

Overall- The accord is very big but does not drive big. However, it is not as nimble as I had hoped. The interior is very roomy. Overall, its a decent car.

I was set to buy one but the dealer does not have a EXL-V6 with navi in stock.

I went over to Toyota to test the camry v6 SE just to make sure that I do my homework. I wasn't expecting much from Camry. But I was wrong.
Here is my take on the camry.

1. Engine- Camry's v6 is smoother than quieter than the Accord V6. The power delivery is smooth with excellent low end punch.
2. 6 speed automatic is ultra smooth and work exceptionally well with the v6 to deliver ultra quick acceleration. The camry hauls a$$ compare to the accord.
3. One area that accord does well in the past is the handling. But Camry SE beat accord soundly in that deparment as well. The steering response is quiet good on the camry. Bodyroll is significantly less than Accord. Ride is also firmer, which i liked. Overall, Camry SE is feels more nimble than the accord. Camry is actually more fun to drive.
4. I did not liked Camry SE all dark interior. This is where accord interior feels much better and soundly beats Camry in this aspect.
5. Camry SE's seat is significantly better than Accord. It provided excellent support for my waist.

I was glad that i take the time to drive the camry SE. Camry is the driver's car vs the accord. It felt strange to have a Toyota family car out handle a honda sedan. The camry SE is a much more capable car for me.

BTW, I am not here to start a flaming war. So, I will not respond to any other thread. Just to give my .02 worth.

Yes- i am in process of buying a Aloe green metallic Camry SE V6.

one thing i'd like to comment on is the transmission not shifting smoothly in the accord versus the camry. they are entirely different designs for automatics. honda's design won't be "smooth" compared to other at's as it is an entirely different beast. :yes:

the others, well, i can't fairly comment on them as i haven't been inside of the newer gen of the camry at all yet. (note to self~test drive camry for amusement.....) i could compare an older camry to the new accord, but that wouldn't be fair.

The wife's RAV-4 has the same motor as the Camry and I have to say it's a really nice power plant. It makes power all across the rev-band. The transmission is always ready to downshift. It does 0-60 in about 6.1 seconsds. My only gripe is that we got the FWD instead of AWD, which would have nullified the whole torque steer problem.
I think the Camry sufferes from the same torque-steer problems as our RAV, so I'm not sure how that would stack against the new Accord V6?

I wouldn't buy a v6 camry over a v6 accord but if I were to buy a camry it would have to be a se. Looks soo much better

Yeah i agree... Nothing else though. I would totally 100% drive the camry over Mazda though. :D [motors made by Ford - cars designed by Mazda :dunno: ]... So...

Nice to see you. Actually i did not get banned on the Odyclub.com. I just see no point of arguing since people sees things differently. I did see that all people turned against Norb over the runflat tire.

As far as fact goes, I simply put as much straight answer i know or based on what i see fit. If you had looked over the post i made, i don't think i made comment that is without fact or biased. Especially when someone claimed there is a Odyssey SIR in US.

My sienna has been great thus far at over 65k miles. I am also thinking of dumping it soon for another 08 Sienna.

I only made one post to voice the opinion on the accord because i was browing both toyotanation and drive accord to see what people are saying on each and see what else i can gather.

So far i think this forum has been very open minded. I really never intended to drag out arguement one or another.

Same holds true with Odyssey and Sienna. I was not looking for a good handling minivan, I was looking for a soft riding minivan that has more room and HID. I am not sure why on Odyclub.com when you post something different a lot of people such as Norb would get all hot about it. :dunno:

Since I am not going to buy an Odyssey, so i simply chose not to comment on it. Although i still enjoy reading the forum.


You make a point. BUT if you like Toyota you belong on a TOYOTA forum. If you wan't to be on this forum though, you needa quit BASHING ON HONDA. :thumbsdow

Honda forum for honda's... Toyota forums for Toyota. I totally agree

or, you can stay and find out why we love our cars so much over toyota's.... :yes:

It's always good to see different opinions. Here is my comparison of 08 Accord and 07 Camry.

Camry- I would only consider the 6 cyl. The 4 cyl on the Camry is REALLY weak. For some reason, I didn't like the SE and it's body work. Too much in my opinion. I'd pick the XLE, but then again, I'd have to settle for the ugly fake wood. Overall, I was very impressed with the Camry. The HVAC/Radio lighting kinda turned me away.

Accord- The 4 cyl felt great and surprised me. It's really strange that one person found these seats uncomfortable. For me, it was totally the opposite. These were the most comfortable seats I'd ever sat in. :dunno: I like the dash layout on the Accord much better. The auto stick is really bland and I felt the Camry's looked much better. Don't like the trunk hinges intruding the trunk space. My '95 Maxima has that and crushes things when packed.

Overall, my pick goes to the Accord. Personally, I think anyone would be happy with either of them and they are both GREAT cars. It's all personal preference. Hopefully, I'll be buying a EX-L V6 Navi in Nov or Dec.:thmsup:

. The auto stick is really bland and I felt the Camry's looked much better.....

Overall, my pick goes to the Accord. Personally, I think anyone would be happy with either of them and they are both GREAT cars. It's all personal preference.

I Totally agree with both comments. I do not like the shifter in the accord, it's very bland but the accord interior looks much beter overall IMO. I also think both cars a great and like I said, the camry was second only to the accord after driving several different sedans. It's still superior to most of the competition.:thmsup:

krispy, I thank you for your post. I think if I were in your shoes, (looking to buy either a new Accord V6 or Camry SE V6), I'd definitely go with the Camry for its looks (except the front end), and now thanks to your post, I know that the Camry's handling and perceived acceleration are superior too.

Also, I find the Camry's C-pillar/door window design more pleasing and similar to my 7th-gen AV6's, and MUCH better than the Accord's BMW-wannabe-but-Mazda-3-lookalike design:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/Succinct/lg_2006_Mazda_3.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/Succinct/Honda20Accord20Sedan2002.jpg

NOW,
Note the similarity of 2007+ Camry's C-Pillar to my 7th-gen AV6's:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/Succinct/07_Camry_SE2.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/Succinct/LtRearqtr03-22-07tint-1.jpg

I don't see a problem with a car trying to look like a BMW. I've never considered an Accord till the '08 models. I know they've always made great cars, but just never digged the looks till now. :thmsup:

I don't see a problem with a car trying to look like a BMW. I've never considered an Accord till the '08 models. I know they've always made great cars, but just never digged the looks till now. :thmsup:

Better to look like a bmw than whatever it looked like before... :yes:I also never considered an accord until the 08 design, looks sooo much better IMO. Again, not to say there's anything wrong with the 07 or previous design, they are great cars but the styling is very bland to me. By the way, it looks nothing like the mazda IMO, the only thing remotely similar is the pillar. The same is true of the camry and the 7th gen, not even close IMO. It does however, seem to resemble the 5series... Has anyone else noticed a trend of 7th gen owners bashing the 8th gens? I know it's only natural to defend your car over others but geez. If the accord continues to go in this direction, I may very well buy another when a redesign happens, hope I won't be bitter :lmao:

The 08 is slowly growing on me, but somehow I'm still having some problems with the front end. I like the headlights, and I sort of like the grill, but I'm not sure they quite fit together all the way. But maybe I just need to get used to it. Given how long we keep our cars (sometimes as long as 10 years) I'll have plenty of time.

It's interesting how with Honda Accord designs sometimes I like them right away, and other times it takes a while, but in the long run I tend to like them all, at least more or less.

I remember immediately liking the original 76 Hatchback and 79 Sedan when they first came out when I was a kid. The 82 redesign was ok, but not great. I think the hatch looked better than the sedan. I thought the 86 redesign was really cool. That was a bold design that still looks sharp 22 years later, imo. And it reflected some cool stuff that was going on underneath, like double wishbone suspension and fuel injected engines. The 90 design was another classic, because in a good way (like the 08) it looked a bit like a BMW 5 series. The 94 took a little getting used to, but was another clean and sculpted design. The 98, of which I own the 02 variant, is a very solid design, clean and functional, if a little boring. The 03 at first alarmed me a little, because as some other people said at the time it almost looked "angry." I don't see that in it now, and I think it's a fine design. To me they really perfected it in the 06 refresh. I think the leds in the rear of that model are slick.

The 08 sedan is still mixed for me. I really love the side profile. The rear, which other people have criticized, is fine for me. The front end just seems a bit busy. But my wife really likes it! And she has a Ph.D. in art history, and so she should know. She says she's glad they finally did something to give it some presence.

I don't see a problem with a car trying to look like a BMW. I've never considered an Accord till the '08 models. I know they've always made great cars, but just never digged the looks till now. :thmsup:
As the photos I put at the bottom of page 2 attest, it looks a lot more like a Mazda 3 than a BMW. So the problem isn't with looking like a BMW, the problem is trying to look like a BMW, but coming off looking a lot more like a Mazda 3. Not that there's anything wrong with that....:paranoid:

As the photos I put at the bottom of page 2 attest, it looks a lot more like a Mazda 3 than a BMW. So the problem isn't with looking like a BMW, the problem is trying to look like a BMW, but coming off looking a lot more like a Mazda 3. Not that there's anything wrong with that....:paranoid:

The only part that looks remotely like a mazda is the pillar, and that is a knock off a bmw...so the only similarity to the mazda is the part that mazda stole from bmw.:yes:

The only part that looks remotely like a mazda is the pillar, and that is a knock off a bmw...so the only similarity to the mazda is the part that mazda stole from bmw.:yes:
Whatever. :rolleyes:

Great response:lmao:. No argument though,so I'm guessing that's all you've got. The knockoff BMW pillar looks the same....:thumbsdow

Not at all, the color is a similar grey though...:lmao:

Not at all, the color is a similar grey though...:lmao:
Wheels are round on both cars. Turn in same direction when in forward motion. Red brake lights are same color also.

Wheels are round on both cars. Turn in same direction when in forward motion. Red brake lights are same color also.

Exactly, the similarities are everywhere! LOL. It's ok, Succinct said the 08 accord looked like an ion a week ago, now it's been changed to a mazda 3. I guess that means the ion looks like the mazda 3 too? Either way, I don't see the similarities except both have that BMW inspired pillar. I would recommend a good optometrist:thmsup:


:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/7/k/a/ag_07aura_frt2.jpg
Been my thought all along.

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/7/k/a/ag_07aura_frt2.jpg
Been my thought all along.

People saying the accord looks like this and this car.......REALLY need glasses! The accord looks like an accord, if your a 7th gen owner and hate the design, please know tha many people hate the 7th gen design as well and it still sold well.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:
Been my thought all along.

Haha..was that before or after you said it looks like a hyundai?

If anything, these two look a lot more similar...Not that they are A LOT alike, but a lot closer than the aura and 08' accord.:yes:

I had to do it....Sorry, but you asked for it:lmao:

Now a days it is hard not to say a certain vehicle looks like the other since cars. There is only so much you can do to a vehicle before it starts to look like the next.Look at us humans as a race, were all human but look slightly different:lmao:

They all look like an Accazion to me. :banana:

They all look like an Accazion to me. :banana:

:lmao::lmao:

They all look like an Accazion to me. :banana:

:lmao::lmao:

What is that? An acura Ion hyundai?

:lmao::lmao:

What is that? An acura Ion hyundai?

Accord Aura Ion Mazda = Accazion.......:wave: