so i bought an '06 accord last week, the downside is that it has rear drums. simple solution is to swap them for some discs. my question is what rear discs will work on the accord, i have access to alot of civic parts, i.e. 2000 civic si donor car and would like to know if the rear disc will fit on the accord or will i have to use all accord parts. i plan on upgrading the front brakes as well, but for now the rear will do. i tried searching on here but with no luck.

What's the big deal with rear drums? :dunno: I'm guessing it's an I4, so does it really need all that stopping power?

Since when does the size of the motor dictate the required stopping power? If he wants to stop quicker, then he wants to stop quicker. You don't need to do 0-60 in 3.5 to need/want good brakes...

I don't know what would be needed for the swap, but here are some diagrams to help... looks fairly costly.
diagram of rear disc brakes (http://www.bernardiparts.com/SearchResults.aspx?SearchType=Model&Image=14SDA7_009_0004.GIF)

diagram of rear drum brakes (http://www.bernardiparts.com/SearchResults.aspx?SearchType=Model&Image=14SDA7_009_0003.GIF)

What's the big deal with rear drums? :dunno: I'm guessing it's an I4, so does it really need all that stopping power?

Drum brakes = the suck:blah:
It is an I4, yes it needs the stopping. disc brakes look nicer when you have a set of work wheels. has anyone done this swap before?

Drum brakes = the suck:blah:
It is an I4, yes it needs the stopping. disc brakes look nicer when you have a set of work wheels. has anyone done this swap before?

Yeah, more stopping power is always nice. And they do look nice, too. It would just be too much money and effort for me compared to the benefits, is all. Good luck on the conversion, though. Be sure to post pics when you're done! :thmsup: Who knows, maybe you'll convince me to do the same if it doesn't look too hard.:dunno:

Since when does the size of the motor dictate the required stopping power? If he wants to stop quicker, then he wants to stop quicker. You don't need to do 0-60 in 3.5 to need/want good brakes...

I don't know what would be needed for the swap, but here are some diagrams to help... looks fairly costly.
diagram of rear disc brakes (http://www.bernardiparts.com/SearchResults.aspx?SearchType=Model&Image=14SDA7_009_0004.GIF)

diagram of rear drum brakes (http://www.bernardiparts.com/SearchResults.aspx?SearchType=Model&Image=14SDA7_009_0003.GIF)

Bigger motor=more weight, thus the necessity for more stopping power. The engineers at Honda didn't think that 4 discs on the I4 lower models are necessary. But if you want to spend the time/money on a conversion, more power to ya! :thmsup: Are 4 discs nice to have? Sure! All I'm saying is that it would be a lot of hassle for something that I don't see as a necessity. But, then again, are any of the mods we do to our cars necessary?:naughty:

Looks pretty straight forward. I have done a swap from a 4 bolt hub to a five both hub on one of my RX-7s. Its pretty simple as things go. You just need the parts. A lot of them should be available now. I don't know how much you have thought this out, but it might require a different level of brake proportioning, so you might need to change out the valve.

All that said, I have the drum brakes, and I am not going to switch them. If you think about it, its just not going to make much difference. Either way, the braking power provided is sufficient to overcome the grip of the tires (which is why we have anti-lock brakes) and the only real reason to switch is for competitive or extreme situations where you might be braking over and over, and experiencing some fade.

Its really for looks, and thats cool, but I don't know if you will experience any improvement over that. Good luck on the conversion, if you do it, post a write up.

Either way, the braking power provided is sufficient to overcome the grip of the tires


Right on. And this is central to the issue. More stopping power? Nope. You will stop in exactly the same distance.

Wow I had no idea an accord could be bought with drums. I thought they even took drums of the civic years ago... what do I know.

drums = :thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow

Wow I had no idea an accord could be bought with drums. I thought they even took drums of the civic years ago... what do I know.

drums = :thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow

yea i didnt notice it first either, i think my car is the VP version?

Could be the VP or LX. Do you have map lights with sunglass holder?, you have a LX, if not VP.

Could be the VP or LX. Do you have map lights with sunglass holder?, you have a LX, if not VP.

yes i have that, i bought this car because i didnt want sunroof or leather. i had all of that in my '02 pathfinder and hated it, that and the gas mileage. i'll have to look in the manual, so an LX is what i have. i cant beleive nobody has done a brake swap before. ive done this many time on civics and 240sx but never an accord. the parts list i would think i need are as follows:

master cylinder
calipers/rotors
new rear lines
i think the control arms are the same though

Sounds right to me. I dont know that you will need the new master cylider.

I would switch out the hardware on the back end first and see what you think.

Now that we are in hindsight mode, the LX-SE model added the rear discs, but didnt have the sunroof. May have been the one for you, but I am sure you like this car and since its already been paid for, keep it.

Look around for an LX-SE or EX four cylinder that has been crashed at the front end and pull the rear brake assembly and proportioning valve to swap out and you should be good to go. Should also be a lot cheaper than getting the parts new from the dealer.

FWIW, I test drove an LX coupe and an SE 4-door back to back, and could tell a pretty noticeable difference in the brakes. The disc brakes in the back simply felt more confident to me. The rear discs are probably the main reason I paid the extra $2K for the SE.
I don't doubt that the stopping distances for the two would be pretty much the same, though.
One bright side for drum brakes: they seem to wear much slower. On my '96 I didn't touch them until 200,000 miles. On my brothers '99 EX, we replaced rear pads at about 50K.

The engineers at Honda didn't think that 4 discs on the I4 lower models are necessary.

it is about price.... Drums are cheaper.... that is why in the 7th gen the disks are on ex and above

Amazing, I didn't know any 7th gen Accord had rear drum brakes. That is like ancient technology. Most econo cars don't even have rear drums anymore, it seems inappropriate to put them on any model Accord. I wonder if the 8th gens have drums, I doubt it. Cheap of Honda to do that to the 7th gen base model.

Amazing, I didn't know any 7th gen Accord had rear drum brakes. That is like ancient technology. Most econo cars don't even have rear drums anymore, it seems inappropriate to put them on any model Accord. I wonder if the 8th gens have drums, I doubt it. Cheap of Honda to do that to the 7th gen base model.

Ah, so you didn't know that your car had a cousin who wore glasses and was cheaper?

Ah, so you didn't know that your car had a cousin who wore glasses and was cheaper?

LOL, no, I guess I didn't.

Would the EBD be something to worry about when doing a rear disc swap? I'm not sure if the EBD is an electronic function or if there's hardware thats needs to be added to make everything function normally.

I think that is accounted for in the speed sensor that is in the hub, so I don't think you have to worry about it.

Ah, but drum brakes make a better parking brake. IMO

Ah, but drum brakes make a better parking brake. IMO

I think you're right. My '07 rocks back and forth with the parking brake on when I put it in gear. My '96 with drums won't budge.

dont cars with rear disc's have a small drum for the parking brake anyway?

dont cars with rear disc's have a small drum for the parking brake anyway?

some do. but not all. I believe that Odysseys do, but accords do not.

You guys obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Drum brakes have many advantages, unless you like fording water or plan to take your accord on the race track.

You guys obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Drum brakes have many advantages, unless you like fording water or plan to take your accord on the race track.

You give a lot of examples here ;)

You give a lot of examples here ;)

That was the whole list of advantages of disk brakes.

Fording water and fade resistance (i.e. race track) are the only possible advantage of rear disk brakes, but neither apply to this application.

Drum advantages:
1) no wheel dust on face of wheel
2) low to no maintanance (honda rear drums often last >100k miles before requiring shoe replacement or ANY maintenance)
3) they work well as designed, and are well suited to this application
4) they rarely cause warping sensation disk brakes are known for
5) they don't rust when the car sits and is exposed to the elements like disks (search for "rust" on this forum and you'll find disk brake threads

how's that? ;)

gentlemen, lets please stay on topic. no need to discuss the advantages of drum vs. discs. the original post was about what rear disc setups will fit on the 7th gen accord, i know that another 7th gen conversion will work. also, has anyone done this before? stay tuned for a complete write-up on the rear swap in the future!!!