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jag
10-28-2007, 08:26 AM
If you enjoyed remote starter on your Honda, you should seriously consider a good after market unit as opposed to OEM!

I am getting AUTOSTART, two-way with a minimum of 900 meters (3,000 feet) of range. Install same unit in your other car and you can program it to operate both and vice versa.

The OEM shuts the engine off when you open the door! According to Honda it’s a virtue, not a shortcoming because the vehicle stays armed and cannot be stolen as opposed to after-market units. That’s bull! E.g. Autostart shuts the vehicle off if one touches the brake and does not insert and turn the chip-coded key in the ignition.

To read more on OEM unit:
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/instructions/8thgenaccsedan/remotestartfaq.pdf

jag

Barry45RPM
10-28-2007, 09:46 AM
Yes, but the Honda system will turn ON your climate control system to the A/C or Heat modes depending on the ambient temperature.

jag
10-28-2007, 09:57 AM
I leave air and fan on in hot summers and heat on full blast in winters. Once one starts the car, the rest does what's expected.

jag

Accordlover
10-28-2007, 10:15 AM
Also, the Hondas all have immobilizers that you'd have to bypass, thus loosing that security of someone not being able to just have a key cut to the vin, hop in and start the car. I got new keys at a dealer and they didn't even ask for any proof of ownership; most do, but the few that don't are the ones that a theif would go to probably.

Honda>Aftermarket.

What's so hard about getting in and starting the car again? :dunno:

On most systems you have to have the key in the ignition anyways before you can drive off.

jag
10-28-2007, 10:29 AM
Imagine freezing rain... it covers a car in 1" thick sheet of ice and you're in a hurry...you cannot even open the door. Heating her up from inside melts ice to the point it's easy to remove; have you ever got into a vehicle in summer when the temps are so high you break into instant sweat? Cool it by the time you get in.

Where I live, I have key code, just like radio code, so they do not go by VIN.

jag
P.S. OEM's range is only 200m (650 feet)

majky
10-28-2007, 11:25 AM
I've had an Ultra Start remote starter in my car for 2 years now. Installed it myself together with an immobilizer-bypass module (Directed Electronics) - works like a charm.
Honda didn't have an OEM remote starter system for our cars when I put this one in and it didn't seem like one was coming (I wasn't waiting for 2 years anyway :))
Anyway, the immobilizer still works the way it did before I put the system in - the car only starts with the OEM key or via the remote starter system. The immobilizer bypass module is activated by the remote start system when the remote button is pressed - it does not work at any other time.
The engine shuts off whenever the brake pedal is pressed or the e-brake is released (it's a manual transmission so the e-brake has to be activated before the remote starter can operate).

jag
10-28-2007, 04:11 PM
Cuddos to you. I also do my own install and never listen to the scare woodu of those who are in business to make $$$.
The way it looks on '08, one has to go into the doors to bypass the right way. Please share your knowledge. I would be interested in your solutions.TX,

jag

chanke4252
10-28-2007, 04:14 PM
Also, the Hondas all have immobilizers that you'd have to bypass, thus loosing that security of someone not being able to just have a key cut to the vin, hop in and start the car. I got new keys at a dealer and they didn't even ask for any proof of ownership; most do, but the few that don't are the ones that a theif would go to probably.

Honda>Aftermarket.

What's so hard about getting in and starting the car again? :dunno:

On most systems you have to have the key in the ignition anyways before you can drive off.

To me it just seems like unnecessary use of the starter and it doesn't seem like it would be anything but bad if someone used the remote start feature often.

jag
10-28-2007, 04:23 PM
True enough, but only with OEM since you have to start twice to drive.

jag

SatinSilver
10-29-2007, 10:03 AM
True enough, but only with OEM since you have to start twice to drive.

jag

Or just lower the windows with the key fob and climb in like the Duke boys

anysia
10-29-2007, 12:31 PM
Imagine freezing rain... it covers a car in 1" thick sheet of ice and you're in a hurry...you cannot even open the door. Heating her up from inside melts ice to the point it's easy to remove; have you ever got into a vehicle in summer when the temps are so high you break into instant sweat? Cool it by the time you get in.

Where I live, I have key code, just like radio code, so they do not go by VIN.

jag
P.S. OEM's range is only 200m (650 feet)

eh, freezing rain, even in the areas where it is common, is so infrequent that it's not a great reason for a remote starter..... most of the time, once i've chipped off ice on the windows, i can open the door with no problem..... no need for heat from inside. (and by the time i'm done scraping the rest of the windows and all, the car is beginning to heat up anyway for comfort....)

heat? easily helped by rolling down windows and very drastically helped by opening the sun/moonroof if you have one. (very noticeable difference by opening the roof!) after my black cars have baked in the sunlight during the workday, i've simply pushed the unlock button and help it to unroll the windows. then opened the roof the second i got into the car. once i was in motion, roll up the windows, tilt roof, ac on max, cools down much quicker than remote starting it with everything all closed up.....

as far as key codes~those only work if you didnt loose it.... i'm guessing there are plenty of other ways to get new keys made since i'm sure there are plenty of ding dongs who have lost their keys and that little keycode (and vin would seem a likely way to get around it, however, i'd hope they'd ask for id, proof of ownership, etc..... :eek: ).......

Ignition_key
10-29-2007, 07:25 PM
Does the OEM HONDA OR Aftermarker starter work for Manul Transmission Accords?
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Barry45RPM
10-29-2007, 07:45 PM
Does the OEM HONDA OR Aftermarker starter work for Manual Transmission Accords?

No, because Manual Transmission cars are parked and left in gear to "hold" the car. Cranking the engine would lurch the car either forward or backward depending on which gear it was left in.

Auto trans cars are parked in "Park"... out of gear.

thesteve151
10-29-2007, 08:22 PM
No, because Manual Transmission cars are parked and left in gear to "hold" the car. Cranking the engine would lurch the car either forward or backward depending on which gear it was left in.

Auto trans cars are parked in "Park"... out of gear.

people do put remote starts on manual cars. you just have to use your e-break, and leave it out of gear, then you have to rig the clutch sensor (it only lets the car start when the clutch is pushed in) to stay pushed in.:thmsup:

chanke4252
10-29-2007, 11:50 PM
people do put remote starts on manual cars. you just have to use your e-break, and leave it out of gear, then you have to rig the clutch sensor (it only lets the car start when the clutch is pushed in) to stay pushed in.:thmsup:

I usually leave my car in neutral when I'm on flag ground, though, due to my brake pads, my e-brake doesn't hold as well as it did with oem pads. I would love to see someone do this and then start their car only to have it drive away. I'm not saying that it's really a possibility, or that you shouldn't put a remote starter in a mt car, just that I'd love to see it happen.

jag
10-30-2007, 03:26 AM
[Does the OEM HONDA OR Aftermarker starter work for Manul Transmission Accords?]

Ignition_Key,

OEM is only for ATs.
There are aftermarket units that work on MTs, in fact, the one I am putting in comes with factory pre-set for manual tranny with an option to switch to auto if so desired.

jag

Heckler
10-30-2007, 03:28 AM
I usually leave my car in neutral when I'm on flag ground, though, due to my brake pads, my e-brake doesn't hold as well as it did with oem pads. I would love to see someone do this and then start their car only to have it drive away. I'm not saying that it's really a possibility, or that you shouldn't put a remote starter in a mt car, just that I'd love to see it happen.

I've had it happen at my shop. One of my employee's was putting it on an RSX...left the ebrake off and left it in gear, bypassed the ebrake and put the car through one of the interior walls of my shop. It was not funny. Needless to say he was fired on the spot :lmao:

EDIT: Just FYI but it just lurches forward about 3 feet and then stalls. Nothing serious. It doesn't "drive itself".

jag
11-11-2007, 10:43 AM
Or just lower the windows with the key fob and climb in like the Duke boys

:lmao: Tried that...it hurts! No, seriously...one has to turn the ignition off with remote to be able to open the door or lower the windows or open the trunk!
This is an extremely retarded solution; Honda must have subcontracted this design but there is no excuse they accepted it!

jag

slickz
11-13-2007, 02:18 PM
If you enjoyed remote starter on your Honda, you should seriously consider a good after market unit as opposed to OEM!

I am getting AUTOSTART, two-way with a minimum of 900 meters (3,000 feet) of range. Install same unit in your other car and you can program it to operate both and vice versa.

The OEM shuts the engine off when you open the door! According to Honda it’s a virtue, not a shortcoming because the vehicle stays armed and cannot be stolen as opposed to after-market units. That’s bull! E.g. Autostart shuts the vehicle off if one touches the brake and does not insert and turn the chip-coded key in the ignition.

To read more on OEM unit:
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/instructions/8thgenaccsedan/remotestartfaq.pdf

jag

honda installed the remote starter for me..the name brand was PURSUIT? I guess that is not the OEM system because I do not have to shut off my engine and then restart it. The system is also an alarm system with shock sensors.

jag
11-13-2007, 02:32 PM
honda installed the remote starter for me..the name brand was PURSUIT? I guess that is not the OEM system because I do not have to shut off my engine and then restart it. The system is also an alarm system with shock sensors.

If started with remote starter, do your doors stay open or locked? If locked, can you open with remote, either key or remote starter fob?

jag

slickz
11-13-2007, 03:27 PM
the doors stayed locked when the engine is remote started. however, i can unlock the door with the same remote, plug my key in the ignition to on position, and then drive. i dont need to shut off the engine.

jag
11-13-2007, 05:04 PM
the doors stayed locked when the engine is remote started. however, i can unlock the door with the same remote, plug my key in the ignition to on position, and then drive. i dont need to shut off the engine.

Just to make sure...Are you driving an '08 Accord Coupe?

jag

slickz
11-13-2007, 05:49 PM
lol, yes dude
i just picked up my car yesterday
i got it in blue..auto

jag
11-14-2007, 05:04 AM
lol, yes dude
i just picked up my car yesterday
i got it in blue..auto

Congrats!
Coincidentally, that's exactly what I got. Thanks for the info.

slickz
11-14-2007, 05:23 AM
o niceeee, how many miles u got on it so far?
i keep saying ill post up pictres but it seems like i wont be able to until next week. my brother has my camera and wont be back until saturday but thats when i have to bring my car back for them to install the fog lights..

jag
11-14-2007, 09:02 AM
Only 450 miles on mine so far...just installed the remote starter and fog lights myself.