.......actually I hated the new vertical grills on the Camry as well. The front end of cars are starting to look less and less sleek. The front ends are looking more truck like..........this started with the Maxima.....and now everyone wants this look :dunno:

I like the sloped hoodline MUCH better on the 7th gen. What do yall think? I know its a matter of taste, but :dunno:

If you mean the snubbed-nose look...I recall reading somewhere that this new design trend has more to do with fuel economy (or the like) than actually going for an aggressive look. I don't think it has anything to do with Nissan.

Personally, I love the 8th gen redesign in every conceivable way over the 7th gen. That sloped hood on the 7th gen looks like a friggin' ski slope.

Its actually for new pedestrian crash standards, you're hitting them bluntly instead of slicing them now like with a 1-6th gen accord. Also the law states there needs to be some room between the top of the engine and the hood for a safe pedestrian crumple zone.

The sub nose looks way more aggressive to me, my 08 couple looks like a tiger waiting to pounce. I think the 07's look like a futuristic lawn mower, just my opinion of course.

Personally, I love the 8th gen redesign in every conceivable way over the 7th gen. That sloped hood on the 7th gen looks like a friggin' ski slope.

Like I said its a matter of personal opinion........by the way....... Ski Slope front > Dump Truck front :lmao:


Its all good.

except a car with the front of of a truck (as i'd already mentioned to somebody with that ridgeline like grill) = fiercer look, the ski slope/lawn mower from the future looks feminen. :)

Maybe they will put this type of vertical front fascia on a Vette or Ferrari :dunno:

.......actually I hated the new vertical grills on the Camry as well. The front end of cars are starting to look less and less sleek. The front ends are looking more truck like..........this started with the Maxima.....and now everyone wants this look :dunno:

I like the sloped hoodline MUCH better on the 7th gen. What do yall think? I know its a matter of taste, but :dunno:


well its better than the previous ugh, no grill accords.

i like the ridgeline grill based grill on the accord. its better than nothing.

Its actually for new pedestrian crash standards, you're hitting them bluntly instead of slicing them now like with a 1-6th gen accord. Also the law states there needs to be some room between the top of the engine and the hood for a safe pedestrian crumple zone.

Yeah, that was it. Thanks for the correction. :thmsup:

Yeah!... those cars with wedgy front ends look like ski slopes and lawnmowers. Think about it... Corvettes, Ferraris, Lambos, NSXs, S2000s, Z-Cars, GTRs, and the like all look stooopid with thier pointy, wedgy front ends. So tame.

Those cars along with the Gen7 would look so much better with upright, blocky and formal front ends from Avalons, Ridgelines, Lexuses, and Lincoln. I mean, let's be honest, those cars with low hoodlines aren't aggressive without the front end from a 2003 Saturn L300(ooops, I mean '08 Accord)! :rolleyes:

All I gotta say is that the 7th gen accord stocked looks quite feminine compared to the 8th Gen (especially the Coupe).

Its actually for new pedestrian crash standards, you're hitting them bluntly instead of slicing them now like with a 1-6th gen accord. Also the law states there needs to be some room between the top of the engine and the hood for a safe pedestrian crumple zone.

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You are correct. Part of this new design is to meet the Euro/Japanese pedestrian impact standards that are now the law in those countries. This allows the North American Accord to be sold there with no mods (as the Inspire in Japan). The Gen 7 Inspire had a redesigned front to meet the Japanese laws. No doubt the USA will have similar standards soon. Better public relations for Honda to anticipate and lead in any safety related matter.

To be graphically more specific, when a pedestrian is hit with a low hooded car, he is thrown or pivoted in such a way that his head is smashed down on the hood or windshield. The injuries are less when he remains through inertia "attached" to the front of the vehicle until it stops. It's all pretty gruesome, but such safety issues are always about percentages and odds of survival.

Yeah!... those cars with wedgy front ends look like ski slopes and lawnmowers. Think about it... Corvettes, Ferraris, Lambos, NSXs, S2000s, Z-Cars, GTRs, and the like all look stooopid with thier pointy, wedgy front ends. So tame.

Those cars along with the Gen7 would look so much better with upright, blocky and formal front ends from Avalons, Ridgelines, Lexuses, and Lincoln. I mean, let's be honest, those cars with low hoodlines aren't aggressive without the front end from a 2003 Saturn L300(ooops, I mean '08 Accord)! :rolleyes:

Please get over your obsession with saturn. :rolleyes: We know you want to upgrade to the BMW-esque 2008 Accord.:thmsup:

Well if people walk out in front of moving cars... They are going to get hit. DUH!!! Its not like the car just came out and the stupid human is waiting on the horse to stop thats pulling the wagon.

What about kids many will say.... We haven't had a kid hit in years in my town. My parents taught me to stay out of the street.

So lets let the government ruin the aerodynamics with a truck grill on a good sedan for the sake of ped. safety. Pay more in fuel to the middle east. So the victim of there own stupidity dies slower.

So lets let the government ruin the aerodynamics with a truck grill on a good sedan for the sake of ped. safety. Pay more in fuel to the middle east. So the victim of there own stupidity dies slower.

A few of y'all have mentioned aerodynamics and how it is ruined with the 2008 Accord. So lets clear some of this up.

1.Aerodynamics (Drag Coefficient)...Courtesy of Wikipedia:
The drag coefficient is a common metric in automotive design, where designers strive to achieve a low coefficient. Minimizing drag is done to improve fuel efficiency at highway speeds, where aerodynamic effects represent a substantial fraction of the energy needed to keep the car moving. Indeed, aerodynamic drag increases with the square of speed. Aerodynamics are also of increasing concern to truck designers, where a lower drag coefficient translates directly into lower fuel costs.

About 60% of the power required to cruise at highway speeds is taken up overcoming air drag, and this increases very quickly at high speed. Therefore, a vehicle with substantially better aerodynamics will be much more fuel efficient. Additionally, because drag does increase with the square of speed, a somewhat lower speed can significantly improve fuel economy. This was the major reason for the United States adopting a nationwide 55 mile per hour speed limit during the early 1973 oil crisis as slower traffic would save scarce petroleum.

So with that let look at what Honda states about the new Accord Coupe and Sedan with regards to drag coefficient (aerodynamics)...Courtesy of Honda Corporate:

Aerodynamics
Reducing audible wind noise was an important Accord engineering goal, particularly high-frequency noise that can be distracting and impede conversation. The flatter bottom of the car, together with careful tailoring of the body shape, window moldings, windshield wipers and outside mirror shapes, all play a part in reducing wind noise.

Aerodynamic efficiency is likewise improved. The coefficient of drag for the 2008 Accord is just over 0.31 Cd for the Sedan and 0.33 Cd for the Coupe. This compares favorably with the 0.34 Cd figure for the previous generation Accord. In addition, the Accord's coefficient of lift (Cl), which indicates how much body lift occurs at speed, drops from over 0.20 Cl to just over 0.17 Cl for the Sedan and 0.14 Cl for the Coupe.

Additional under-vehicle aerodynamic aids include a wide chin spoiler that directs air under the front subframe. Additional strakes are positioned ahead of the front and rear wheels, plus two additional deflectors that smooth airflow over the front suspension. An engine under-cover directs airflow under the engine, while two middle under-covers direct air around the edges of the fuel tank.

Sorry for the long post, but it appears that we can put to rest the notion that the new front end hurts the new Accord. While some people don't like the way it looks, it doesn't mean that that they aren't aerodynamic. As you can see , its better than its predecessor.

A few of y'all have mentioned aerodynamics and how it is ruined with the 2008 Accord. So lets clear some of this up.

1.Aerodynamics (Drag Coefficient)...Courtesy of Wikipedia:
The drag coefficient is a common metric in automotive design, where designers strive to achieve a low coefficient. Minimizing drag is done to improve fuel efficiency at highway speeds, where aerodynamic effects represent a substantial fraction of the energy needed to keep the car moving. Indeed, aerodynamic drag increases with the square of speed. Aerodynamics are also of increasing concern to truck designers, where a lower drag coefficient translates directly into lower fuel costs.

About 60% of the power required to cruise at highway speeds is taken up overcoming air drag, and this increases very quickly at high speed. Therefore, a vehicle with substantially better aerodynamics will be much more fuel efficient. Additionally, because drag does increase with the square of speed, a somewhat lower speed can significantly improve fuel economy. This was the major reason for the United States adopting a nationwide 55 mile per hour speed limit during the early 1973 oil crisis as slower traffic would save scarce petroleum.

So with that let look at what Honda states about the new Accord Coupe and Sedan with regards to drag coefficient (aerodynamics)...Courtesy of Honda Corporate:

Aerodynamics
Reducing audible wind noise was an important Accord engineering goal, particularly high-frequency noise that can be distracting and impede conversation. The flatter bottom of the car, together with careful tailoring of the body shape, window moldings, windshield wipers and outside mirror shapes, all play a part in reducing wind noise.

Aerodynamic efficiency is likewise improved. The coefficient of drag for the 2008 Accord is just over 0.31 Cd for the Sedan and 0.33 Cd for the Coupe. This compares favorably with the 0.34 Cd figure for the previous generation Accord. In addition, the Accord's coefficient of lift (Cl), which indicates how much body lift occurs at speed, drops from over 0.20 Cl to just over 0.17 Cl for the Sedan and 0.14 Cl for the Coupe.

Additional under-vehicle aerodynamic aids include a wide chin spoiler that directs air under the front subframe. Additional strakes are positioned ahead of the front and rear wheels, plus two additional deflectors that smooth airflow over the front suspension. An engine under-cover directs airflow under the engine, while two middle under-covers direct air around the edges of the fuel tank.

Sorry for the long post, but it appears that we can put to rest the notion that the new front end hurts the new Accord. While some people don't like the way it looks, it doesn't mean that that they aren't aerodynamic. As you can see , its better than its predecessor.

They went and did a under treatment to the car. Plain and simple to make up for the insane truck grill and huge flat sail called the front end. So if we take all the under body areo work they did on the 8th gen. We basically end up with the aero quality's a Accord hybrid.

I do look forward to driving a well ran in 8th gen sedan and see how it does FE wise in my hands. Im intrestred to see how well the car coast over all. While some of the body work may well cut down on some wind noise. That doesn't always mean its more aerodynamic. Just means turbulence has been shifted to a area that wont bother the human ear. Or have they improved lamaner flow.

I can say our 7th gen is the best coasting car Ive ever owned. Is the 8th gen better at this little feat? Time will tell.....

They went and did a under treatment to the car. Plain and simple to make up for the insane truck grill and huge flat sail called the front end.
I can say our 7th gen is the best coasting car Ive ever owned. Is the 8th gen better at this little feat? Time will tell.....

I don't think its plain and simple. But I do agree that time will tell. Also, to call it a "insane truck grill". I think there are much better examples of this.

Chrysler 300
Lincoln MKZ
Chevrolet Malibu (New Model)
Bentley

There are better examples, both economy and luxury, that have a more "insane truck grill". But, yet they all have good Cd. It all about taste. But to call it an "insane truck grill" is a bit..........insane.

I don't think its plain and simple. But I do agree that time will tell. Also, to call it a "insane truck grill". I think there are much better examples of this.

Chrysler 300
Lincoln MKZ
Chevrolet Malibu (New Model)
Bentley

There are better examples, both economy and luxury, that have a more "insane truck grill". But, yet they all have good Cd. It all about taste. But to call it an "insane truck grill" is a bit..........insane.

I don't think its insane at all.... If I wanted a truck grill on a sedan I would go buy some of the rides you mentioned. The 300 comes to mind with a brutish little hemi in it. Not to mention rear wheel drive. While this is Hondas first attempt at a gangster styled ride. The ones you have mentioned have been doing the style for years. and they are very good at it. :)

Honda on the other hand. Just redefined eclectic. :thmsup:

the accord never had a grill until now. i dont know what youre talking bout.

While this is Hondas first attempt at a gangster styled ride.
Honda on the other hand. Just redefined eclectic. :thmsup:

LOL.......gangster styled ride. Beer almost flew out of my nose when I read this. But yes, maybe Honda is redefining eclectic. They did it once before. See example below.

the accord never had a grill until now. i dont know what youre talking bout. Sorry to say, they did have a grill before. See example below.

The 1976 Honda Accord.
Check out that gangster grill. LOL, sorry I had to. Kind of looks like an old Datsun pickup. Here is an example. 82 Datsun Pickup. But, that eclectic 76 Accord turned out to be a hit.

Please get over your obsession with saturn. :rolleyes:

Geez, define obsession. But, I'll throw 'ya a bone...

You're right.

I stand corrected.:notworthy

It looks like a 2009 Hyundai Sonata front clip (at least the Sonata keeps the awesome taillights from the 2003-2004 Accord!)

Happy Pappy?:wave:

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I really think its a very poor hack on the Chrysler 300. They couldn't get the grill right and they screwed up the high line and low top. I cant wait to see one on 24's two feet off the ground all Watts out. Will it be a Crip, Blood or MS13 homie that gets the job done?

Yeah!... those cars with wedgy front ends look like ski slopes and lawnmowers. Think about it... Corvettes, Ferraris, Lambos, NSXs, S2000s, Z-Cars, GTRs, and the like all look stooopid with thier pointy, wedgy front ends. So tame.

Those cars along with the Gen7 would look so much better with upright, blocky and formal front ends from Avalons, Ridgelines, Lexuses, and Lincoln. I mean, let's be honest, those cars with low hoodlines aren't aggressive without the front end from a 2003 Saturn L300(ooops, I mean '08 Accord)! :rolleyes:

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08 = ugly truck on wheels

7th gen = attractive, not feminine. just because it's not butt ugly like an 08 doesn't mean it's feminine. don't try to justify your overpriced tonka car.

The gen 8 coupe is the only reason I walked right across the lot from the Acura dealer when browsing year-end TL's and a used Type-S ...

the styling definitely tweaked my interest and got me into a Honda after testing one, I can't be the only one on this bandwagon.

I do like the 7th gen's... but they were nothing to draw me into the dealer over, unless I was looking to get a sharp economy car @ a closeout price, which I wasn't.

Yeah!... those cars with wedgy front ends look like ski slopes and lawnmowers. Think about it... Corvettes, Ferraris, Lambos, NSXs, S2000s, Z-Cars, GTRs, and the like all look stooopid with thier pointy, wedgy front ends. So tame.

Those cars along with the Gen7 would look so much better with upright, blocky and formal front ends from Avalons, Ridgelines, Lexuses, and Lincoln. I mean, let's be honest, those cars with low hoodlines aren't aggressive without the front end from a 2003 Saturn L300(ooops, I mean '08 Accord)! :rolleyes:

As the other poster said, an L300 looks more like an older accord. It has a very narrow, wedge like nose. So I don't know what you're talking about...

Those sports cars front ends look nothing like the old accords, except the NSX maybe has something similar to the 6th gens front end...

Other sporty cars with bigger front ends include british and irish cars like aston martins and panoz, and jaguar. . Now those are great looking sports cars without wedgy front ends. Also don't forget about BMW, Audi, Nissan, and Scion. All great looking cars, all front ends like the 08 Accord.

by GTRs do you mean the Nissan GTR/Skyline? Because look at the new one coming out, it does not have a wedge front end. All the other cars you mentioned look good with wedge front ends because they are two seaters, 5 seat cars with wedges look silly. The best wedge two seater is the Pagoni Zonda, now that's a wedge lol.

To each their own. I know I don't need to put Nerf Bars on my coupe when it comes in next week. Maybe is just me, I have preferred something not as wedgie/sloped as the last gens were. Example, I have always loved the original Shelby Cobra and the 70 Camaro. They both had the open snout front end.

The one thing I probably sure about is that owners of previous gens and owners of the current gen are asking themselves, "What was Honda thinking about with the headlights on the 2008 Sedan?"
That to me looks awkward and unappealing. The bulging headlights that look as though they are being squeezed out of the car. The coupe has them molded in. Why not do that with tthe sedan?

All I gotta say is that the 7th gen accord stocked looks quite feminine compared to the 8th Gen (especially the Coupe).

I totally agree!!!
The only reason i bought my coupe is because i am only HONDA.
I looked at the Solara. Yeah it looks like a roach.
Altima coupe wasn't out yet.
I still would have gotten the Accord though.

.......actually I hated the new vertical grills on the Camry as well. The front end of cars are starting to look less and less sleek. The front ends are looking more truck like..........this started with the Maxima.....and now everyone wants this look :dunno:

I like the sloped hoodline MUCH better on the 7th gen. What do yall think? I know its a matter of taste, but :dunno:

You mean you bought one and don't like how it looks??

Geez, define obsession. But, I'll throw 'ya a bone...

You're right.

I stand corrected.:notworthy

It looks like a 2009 Hyundai Sonata front clip (at least the Sonata keeps the awesome taillights from the 2003-2004 Accord!)

Happy Pappy?:wave:

no not really, but no one is gonna change your opinion, and mine so im ending it by saying that this is the First accord since my 85' Accord that has attracted me to the dealership. The 2003-2007 Accords front looked so boring, bland, and gm-ish(chevy-ish). Finally in 2006 I saw the back end first and I said, maybe the front is gonna have a real grill but when I looked it was the same droopy front end. By no means did it offend me it was just not to my likeing. To each their own.