Rx Commercials

[Accord9404]

Should Rx Commercials be taken off the air?

[Coil99]

Someone stole your Poll! :confused: :eek: ;)

[Accord9404]

Really?
I did not see it recently posted that's why I asked.

[princess]

OK, I'm lost.....:confused:

By Rx are you meaning the drug commercials or something else?

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Do you want a "vote counter" added to this? (I think they may have been what '99 was talking about....) :confused:

Am I completely misunderstanding????:dunno:

[Accord9404]

Yes I do mean physcription drugs. Did not know that "99" had asked the same thing.'
If so then just disregard my post.
Thanks for the heads up.

[Inspector1]

Did some one say Poll:D

Yes I think they should.... It's hard to figure what they are half the time!

I1:)

[princess]

Yes, I think the ads should be banned...for one thing there's far too many hypocondriacs...(that doesn't look right...forgive the spelling).....All of suddden there's record numbers with high lipids, depression, arthritis, migraines......

For another, they get enough of our money already! Drugs cost quite a bit & it's not like we have a choice when we're ill!

I think the drug "cure" of choice should be between you & your Doc. No promotions, no ads...just what works best for you & which side effects you can deal with.

Sorry.....

I'll hobble back to my corner clutching my knee, with tears running down my face from the depression of yet another headache & the tests results form my last chorlesterol test.....


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:joker:

(I'm not making fun of the illnesses....just the commercials!!)

[Dave]

the drug ads not only need to be taken off the air completely, but the government needs to step in and reign in the drug companies before they get more powerful than the tobacco and gun lobbies.

[princess]

Cool rain picture!

Well, someone's gotta take over since the tabacco companies are losing their power!:)

[Coil99]

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[Coil99]

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[princess]

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[Greg]

I'll play devil's advocate and vote no, that drug commercials should be allowed. Banning drug commercials would be banning a part of free enterprise, which we all benefit from. Also, banning drug commercials would set a nasty precedent for other things to be banned from advertising as well. What will be next? I think McDonalds, Coca-Cola, Pepsi should all be concerned. Tobacco has arguably started this trend already.

Furthermore, these drug companies have a right to recoup their research and investment costs that went into preparing these drugs in the first place. Commercials are obviously a way to do this. Drug companies being able to have a limited monopoly for a period of time is accorded (haha) by U.S. patent statutes. Charging high prices for drugs does not necessarily make one's insurance more expensive: health care companies have a right to not pay for a particular drug. Finally, we don't want to make the process of developing and marketing new drugs so prohibitive that these drugs won't be developed and marketed in the first place. American drug companies have been at the forefront of drug development for a long time, and I would prefer it stay that way.

Importing cheap drugs is also not the answer, and is arguably illegal. The Canadians have socialized health care meaning that the Canadian Govt. pays for ~1/2 of the cost of all drugs sold from Canada. To say that we need to import cheap drugs from Canada is effectively stealing and Canada is actively stopping any such requests.

An intrusive government scares me. Thomas Jefferson once said about the constitution: "The second amendment will not be needed until someone tries to take it." Banning companies from airing commercials (particularly ones toward products that are intended to help people) might be the first step along this road that we don't want to walk down.

[princess]

I do agree with they need research funds...but it's already illegal to advertise many things, so it's not a "rights" issue..

They have the right to charge us to cover their costs, even if we complain...but adverising isn't a right.

In most places (it doesn't make sense to me) you can't advertise condems, but you can have ads for "the" pill.

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The drug companies could figure out a way to have ads without making it look like we ALL need their stuff..... like we all have brain chemistry issues, arthritis, migraines.... If they had more of an informational format it would sure be better to me.

I don't know the answer to affordable drugs, I do know that the commercials have produced record sales.... somebody's using them by possibly getting a problem by the power of suggestion!:) The brain is a powerful thing!!;)

[Greg]

Originally posted by princess

In most places (it doesn't make sense to me) you can't advertise condems, but you can have ads for "the" pill.

The drug companies could figure out a way to have ads without making it look like we ALL need their stuff..... like we all have brain chemistry issues, arthritis, migraines.... If they had more of an informational format it would sure be better to me.

I don't know the answer to affordable drugs, I do know that the commercials have produced record sales.... somebody's using them by possibly getting a problem by the power of suggestion!:) The brain is a powerful thing!!;)

Well I think to limit commercials you would have to prove the ads were doing some kind of harm. The funny thing is, when I lived in CA, I saw/heard many condom commercials. Trojan had a lot of commercials on the tube, and Durex had very suggestive commercials on the radio. In contrast, Ortho-Tri Cyclen Lo TV ad is not very sexually suggestive.

With respect to everyone needing a prescription for something, I think that should fall on the doctor's shoulders, not the drug companies. Although i guess things like the pill might not fall into this category. Time to get rid of planned parenthood. ;)

[Dave]

Originally posted by princess
Cool rain picture!

Well, someone's gotta take over since the tabacco companies are losing their power!:)

thanks :D

the drug companies have never suffered from lack of profits. the only reason i see for the ads is to suggest to a generally hypocondriac populace that all their needs are not being met and they cant live life to the fullest unless they take this pill. the gist of just about every medication ad i've seen is to lobby your doctor to give you this pill. take our pill and your hair will grow back, your dick will be harder and you wont suffer from embarassing flatulence and yellow teeth. oh, and it stops nasty body odor and provides a restful nights sleep too. side effects include paralysis, morbid obesity, haliltosis, cramping, night sweats and in rare cases, death. ask your doctor about zegeldorforin. you'll be glad you did.

[princess]

I'd been told forever that acid reflux & heartburn was just part of the aging process.....doc push the meds to control it... but low & behold it's not the spicey foods or even the time of night I eat....it wasn't sitting up or not before going to sleep & it wasn't any extra pound..... A few days after cutting carbs down it went away. Before losing an ounce. I used to live on Prilosec, tums, rolaids..... now even when I do have extra carbs, there's still no problems. My doc can't explain it. I do know that it's a common "side effect" of lowering carb intake.

They're finally getting rersults in from tests on people eating the way I do.... the body isn't just a furnice. They've always thought as long as your calorie intake matched your activity you'd have a healthy weight. They increased low carbers by 25K calories over 6 months without increasing their exercise. They didn't gain! Now they're so confused! without the carbs you don't store the fat...so chorlesterol goes down.

Point is: drugs aren't always the answer....sometimes a real lifestyle change can do more, faster! Maybe they'll also figure out that increasing protein will solve the ED too! And there'll be little need for those blue pills!;)

I'm a firm believer that if there's s drug free way to solve the problem, go for it....there's less negative side effects! But the drugs can be life-savers too! I want them to continue the research & have stuff available, I just wish they'd not push so hard.....

[Greg]

At the end of the day though, I don't think prescription taking is the commercial's fault. Each one of us is in charge of what we put in our bodies. The drug companies don't force us to take anything. McDonalds advertises all the time trying to glamorize their food. I know it is bad for me though, so I try not to eat it much.

I'm with you though Princess; there is more to low carb diets than meets the eye. I tried a protein diet to bulk up, but tried to stay low fat at the same time (i.e., lots of chicken and fish). I felt great and didn't get sick for the entire time I was on it (~9 months), but I just couldn't deal with the menu - such a lack of selection. Although I'm not much of a cook anyway, so that part could have been my fault. I'll stick to the thermodynamic method from now on: Keep calorie intake <= calories burned.

[princess]

But that's the point...calorie in take less than calories burned isn't working for everyone & that's what's puzzling them! I worked out for 3 hours per day for a year. That 3 hours was broke down this way, 1 hour racqueltball, one hour with weight training & machines, 30 minutes treadmill & 30 minutes other (swimming usually)...my daily calorie intake was 600. (I was starving myself) You how much I lost? ZERO! I was 30 pounds overweight. No, I didn't gain thatmuch muscle. I WAS better toned though. My doc & I were baffled by it! I've been calorie couting for most of 30 years. I've battled high chorlesterol eating lettuce. Nothing worked for me! I kept gaining at a rate of about 2 pounds per year. As a last resort I decided to try South Beach...it sounded healthier than Atkins. It didn't work either. So I tried Atkins.... basically added a little fat & reduced the carbs more. I finally, for the first time in my life, lost! I understand the therory & it works for my metabolism. I do think most people simply under-do for the eating habits. But that wasn't me. My lipids dropped in half.

If one reads the actual Atkins plan it never says all the fat you want. It just wants you to eat certain kinds of fat. Animal fat is OK, trans-fat still isn't. So I can eat bacon...in fact, I have to....if I don't I don't lose. I can gain so easy that one toast, with extra time on the treadmill & it'll stick with me!

Maybe I have an odd allergy like thing to flour???:confused: Or grains in general, I don't know..... I do know I don't process even the healthiest of carbs properly.

Do I think this is for everyone? NO! I think if a person can maintain a healthy body weight with having a well balanced lifestyle, it's best!

In 6 months I went from a women's 14 to a children's 14.... (a women's 2) I feel great. I have engery. My tests are great.

Raising protein isn't always lowering carbs. My prince cut back on sugar & breads, but eats carbs in non-processed ways. As does my mom. It's wonderful for them.

This is a dream come rrue for me!

Even a good thing can be over done though!;)

You do have to be creative sometimes to stay low carb.... it can get boring & very difficult if cooking isn't your thing!:)