The steering wheel is almost a direct copy of the Accord sedan.

http://www.auto-talk.net/pictures/data/1482/medium/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sport_Truck_010_Auto-Talk_net_.jpg

And yet much uglier.....:scratch:

But it can be said that the new Accord sedan's is a copy of the Altima's, which was out first.

My point is many auto manufacturers seem to be going this way for some odd reason. ???

But it can be said that the new Accord sedan's is a copy of the Altima's....

which is a copy of the Civic's. :D

I don't get what the hoopla is about the G8. The most powerful engine they gave it only gets it moving from 0-60 around the same as the Accord. I guess it's decent since its large and rear wheel drive, but it doesn't look too awesome either.

I don't get it. For cheap, I think the grand prix is an ok car, and the Solara is awesome. But this...??

I'd personally get a BMW or Audi (though i'm afraid of Audi's quality). I still don't know if i'd get a big car like this G8 or M5, of if i'd actually get a Z car or an M3 or something. It's a tough decision. But someday, I want a sporty rear wheel drive car, and the G8 just doesn't seem to give much performance for the money.

which is a copy of the Civic's. :D

which is a copy of the 350z?

who cares. i give points for the best looking car, not the most original. btw, I think the 350z is great looking and I considered buying one before the Accord, but I think the Altima Coupe, which I also test drove, looked terrible.

I don't get what the hoopla is about the G8. The most powerful engine they gave it only gets it moving from 0-60 around the same as the Accord. I guess it's decent since its large and rear wheel drive, but it doesn't look too awesome either.

I don't get it. For cheap, I think the grand prix is an ok car, and the Solara is awesome. But this...??

I'd personally get a BMW or Audi (though i'm afraid of Audi's quality). I still don't know if i'd get a big car like this G8 or M5, of if i'd actually get a Z car or an M3 or something. It's a tough decision. But someday, I want a sporty rear wheel drive car, and the G8 just doesn't seem to give much performance for the money.

You sure the 0-60 time for the G8 with the most powerful engine (V8, 361 hp, 385 lb-ft) is about the same as the Accord? Motor Trend has the G8 GT (the model with the V8) going from 0-60 mph in 5.3 seconds. And we're not even talking about the upcoming G8 GXP with over 400 hp.

And remember, they got 5.3 with an automatic transmission, while they got 5.6-5.7 for a manual Accord. So if they had an optional manual on the G8, it would probably be even faster.

Who cares..... It's still a Pontiac.:puke:

Who cares..... It's still a Pontiac.:puke:
Correction - it's a Holden...

Same difference....;)

The GTO was the same way and look how well that turned out.

But it can be said that the new Accord sedan's is a copy of the Altima's, which was out first.

A vague resemblance at the very most. Not even close to a copy, IMO. They are both round, however... ;)

FWIW, I agree with the comment about the G8 wheel vs. the Accord wheel... now that's what I'd call a copy.

You sure the 0-60 time for the G8 with the most powerful engine (V8, 361 hp, 385 lb-ft) is about the same as the Accord? Motor Trend has the G8 GT (the model with the V8) going from 0-60 mph in 5.3 seconds. And we're not even talking about the upcoming G8 GXP with over 400 hp.

yeah, i am. that's what i mean. i have car and driver and they quoted 5.3 seconds. that's barely faster than the Accord. how is it faster anyway...with less horsepower and a heavier car? is there more tork or something? something to do with the literage?

A vague resemblance at the very most. Not even close to a copy, IMO. They are both round, however... ;)

FWIW, I agree with the comment about the G8 wheel vs. the Accord wheel... now that's what I'd call a copy.

Actually, I think the Accord coupe looks more like a Pontiac G6 or a Scion coupe than an Altima coupe. the Altima coupe is kinda...unique, both in its front and rear.

...the Altima coupe is kinda...unique, both in its front and rear.

Kinda...until you look at the G35 coupe....

A vague resemblance at the very most. Not even close to a copy, IMO. They are both round, however... ;)

A vague resemblance?!? I dunno, they look pretty similar to me:
http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/7/r/p/ag_07altima_interior.jpg

A vague resemblance?!? I dunno, they look pretty similar to me:

Wow, I don't see it at all. The use of a handful of common elements with completely different shapes doesn't meet my standards for "a copy". The concept is similar, but the execution is quite a bit different in my eyes. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. :)

Not that it matters all that much in the bigger picture... if copying of styling elements was a crime, most of the designers for automobiles would be on Death Row. ;)

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2008/accord-sedan/interior-gallery/gal_lg8.jpg

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Yes. :)

Correction - it's a Holden...
Which has had that steering wheel in the Commodore (which the G8 is based off of) since 2007. :P

Couple of points - first, the GTO was a very solid car, but not marketed well at all, and had a niche market at best. You can't say many bad things about that car, and the engineering is what led the way for the G8 to swing this way. If you look at Holden's site, there are potential coupe and wagon versions which are likely to make it to this side of the big pond at some point -which is something that Honda can't provide. Different market than the typical Accord buyer, and I think some folks here need to acknowledge that there are excellent car models out there other than just those with an H on the steering wheel. :biggrin:

In terms of steering wheels, the redesign of the Honda wheels with the sharp "boomerang" looking posts on the left/right were post some of the Holden models, especially the Commodore which was discussed earlier. If you look more closely at the 2 photos which I've reposted below next to each other, the similarities there are much more than just passive....

andy

Next they're gonna be saying Hyundai copied the coupe with their Genesis:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/BahamaTodd/Autos/genesiscoupe_473a.jpg
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2008/accord-coupe/interior-gallery/gal_lg5.jpg

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yeah, i am. that's what i mean. i have car and driver and they quoted 5.3 seconds. that's barely faster than the Accord. how is it faster anyway...with less horsepower and a heavier car? is there more tork or something? something to do with the literage?

So the G8 V8 AUTOMATIC goes 0-60mph in 5.3 seconds... how is that disappointing? You're complaining that it is only slightly faster than the Accord V6 MANUAL? How about comparing it to an Accord V6 AUTOMATIC?

Also, good luck getting a BMW or Audi in the price range of the G8 GT that can also keep up with it. Remember, the G8 GT is a high-performance sedan/muscle car... along the lines of the Dodge Charger. Besides, why would you cross shop a G8 with a BMW or Audi? They are completely different cars in different markets. With the G8, you're paying more for the engine/performance, while with a BMW or Audi, you're paying more for the luxury features and brand name.

yeah, i am. that's what i mean. i have car and driver and they quoted 5.3 seconds. that's barely faster than the Accord. how is it faster anyway...with less horsepower and a heavier car? is there more tork or something? something to do with the literage?

I still don't get what you are saying. You said that you don't know what the big deal is about the G8, and compared it to the Honda Accord in acceleration times from 0 -60 mph, saying they are "around the same". You said it yourself - Car and Driver clocked the G8 at 5.3 seconds with an automatic transmission. You do know that the G8 is a full size 4-door sedan, right? It makes sense to compare sedan with sedan, not coupe with sedan. What's the 0-60 mph time for the Accord Sedan V6? Is the G8 "barely faster" than the Accord 4-door? Motor Trend clocked the Accord 4-door V6 going from 0-60 mph at 6.5 seconds. If you call 1.2 seconds in 0-60 mph acceleration "barely faster", then I don't know what to tell you.

I still don't get what you are saying. You said that you don't know what the big deal is about the G8, and compared it to the Honda Accord in acceleration times from 0 -60 mph, saying they are "around the same". You said it yourself - Car and Driver clocked the G8 at 5.3 seconds with an automatic transmission. You do know that the G8 is a full size 4-door sedan, right? It makes sense to compare sedan with sedan, not coupe with sedan. What's the 0-60 mph time for the Accord Sedan V6? Is the G8 "barely faster" than the Accord 4-door? Motor Trend clocked the Accord 4-door V6 going from 0-60 mph at 6.5 seconds. If you call 1.2 seconds in 0-60 mph acceleration "barely faster", then I don't know what to tell you.

I'm in complete agreement with you... not sure what jang is trying to say.

In any case, Motor Trend's test of the Accord V6 sedan... was that with an AT or the MT? I'm thinking MT with a 0-60mph time of 6.5 seconds.

I still don't get what you are saying. You said that you don't know what the big deal is about the G8, and compared it to the Honda Accord in acceleration times from 0 -60 mph, saying they are "around the same". You said it yourself - Car and Driver clocked the G8 at 5.3 seconds with an automatic transmission. You do know that the G8 is a full size 4-door sedan, right? It makes sense to compare sedan with sedan, not coupe with sedan. What's the 0-60 mph time for the Accord Sedan V6? Is the G8 "barely faster" than the Accord 4-door? Motor Trend clocked the Accord 4-door V6 going from 0-60 mph at 6.5 seconds. If you call 1.2 seconds in 0-60 mph acceleration "barely faster", then I don't know what to tell you.


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Also...that V8 will respond to mods....so someone who wants to spend their money on real mods (instead of fake HIDs and rims) will get some serious power of of this car.

As well...the looks of the G8 are great. I really like it (as I've said all along).

:thmsup::thmsup::thmsup::thmsup:

Also...that V8 will respond to mods....so someone who wants to spend their money on real mods (instead of fake HIDs and rims) will get some serious power of of this car.

As well...the looks of the G8 are great. I really like it (as I've said all along).

I haven't seen any articles about this yet, but the G8 looks alot like the recently departed GTO. Anyone know what the major differences are?

:thmsup::thmsup::thmsup::thmsup:

Also...that V8 will respond to mods....so someone who wants to spend their money on real mods (instead of fake HIDs and rims) will get some serious power of of this car.

As well...the looks of the G8 are great. I really like it (as I've said all along).


Agreed 100%. Before buying my coupe, I was almost willing to wait.

Agreed 100%. Before buying my coupe, I was almost willing to wait.

Oh...and by no means is the J35 a slouch when paired with the 6MT...I'd know...I owned an 05 TL 6MT...and that was a fun powertrain.....just the rest of the car was the problem.

I dream of the idea of taking the 5.7 out of my truck, throwing it in a 3500 lb car and puting a 6Mt behind it.....that kind of torque is enough to get you killed :D

I anxiously await the G8...but in reality...it is probably 3 years too late for the market.

We will see what happens....

I dream of the idea of taking the 5.7 out of my truck, throwing it in a 3500 lb car and puting a 6Mt behind it.....that kind of torque is enough to get you killed :D

If you did that, you'd probably have something along the lines of a base Corvette.

I'm in complete agreement with you... not sure what jang is trying to say.

In any case, Motor Trend's test of the Accord V6 sedan... was that with an AT or the MT? I'm thinking MT with a 0-60mph time of 6.5 seconds.

It's with the 5-speed automatic.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0802_midsize_sedan_comparison/specs_and_%20road_test_data.html

If you did that, you'd probably have something along the lines of a base Corvette.

Yeah....but it would be a Toyota :)

I know Vette's are awesome.:yes:

Oh Noes!! Not again! :eek:

(Buick Concept)
http://images.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2008/112_0804_06z+buick_invicta_concept+interior.jpg

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2008/accord-sedan/interior-gallery/gal_lg8.jpg

which is a copy of the 350z?

who cares. i give points for the best looking car, not the most original. btw, I think the 350z is great looking and I considered buying one before the Accord, but I think the Altima Coupe, which I also test drove, looked terrible.

350'z r great. i'm in ky so i get snow here, didn't really want to mess w/ rwd cars.

i almost walked out w/ an altima coupe... then i saw the accord :notworthy

few nice things the altima has over the accord, but the styling of the accord n and out, plus the performance, is all around better.

my apologies I had no idea that G8 was automatic. I figured it was stick since they were testing the acceleration.

my apologies I had no idea that G8 was automatic. I figured it was stick since they were testing the acceleration.

There are only two trannys available for the G8 (right now), and neither is an MT. Both are ATs... a 5-spd for the base model (w/ V6) and a 6-spd for the GT (w/ V8).

The G8 GXP which will be released later this year will be available with a 6-spd MT. Pontiac estimates that the GXP will do 0-60mph in 4.7 seconds. Considering the GXP has a bigger engine (6.3L V8 rated at 402 HP/400 ft-lbs), I would've expected even quicker acceleration as 4.7 sec is only .6 faster than the GT.

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Thats been done...Only using a lighter car.. Im sure if you look up Scrantons turbo v8 celica GTS youll see some pics.. Basically twin turbos on top of the tundra v8 in a celica... The thing ran like 6.XXX in the 1/4 mile...

Dang that's fast! I bet it is super sweet.

There are only two trannys available for the G8 (right now), and neither is an MT. Both are ATs... a 5-spd for the base model (w/ V6) and a 6-spd for the GT (w/ V8).

The G8 GXP which will be released later this year will be available with a 6-spd MT. Pontiac estimates that the GXP will do 0-60mph in 4.7 seconds. Considering the GXP has a bigger engine (6.3L V8 rated at 402 HP/400 ft-lbs), I would've expected even quicker acceleration as 4.7 sec is only .6 faster than the GT.

4.7?? that's it??? Geeezz, I guess I wont need to worry about meeting one of those on the street while driving my puny little 86 Buick V6. Mine only pulls 3.7 0-60's

4.7?? that's it??? Geeezz, I guess I wont need to worry about meeting one of those on the street while driving my puny little 86 Buick V6. Mine only pulls 3.7 0-60's

Heh... those numbers are for a stock G8 GXP. I'm willing to bet your Buick is anything BUT stock. :thmsup:

Heh... those numbers are for a stock G8 GXP. I'm willing to bet your Buick is anything BUT stock. :thmsup:

Ya, but it's only a little V6. ;)

Modified, turbocharged V6....

Modified, turbocharged V6....

I think you missed my winky. I'm trying to be humerous.:yes: