Need help fast, plz!

[Demonik]

Ok so i just washed my car and i have noticed scratches of all kinds, alot in weird half circle marks, long scratches, etc on my car....a week ago it was detailed and looked perfect

i know that after while imperfections will come back, but these scratches were never on my car.

so to those who know their stuff, if a detailer were to make scratches in the car would i not see them in the beginning and now after awhile see them?

the car got clayed, polish, glaze, and paint sealant.

I am so frustrated, i have the guy coming back out on friday and i need to know if i can prove my point of him doing the damage.

[RTexasF]

My thoughts is that they were not removed in the first place but merly covered up. Many glazes are full of fillers to cover up imperfections. As it wears off the boo boos reappear. Had it been polished correctly initially there would be nothing to cover up because the surface should be damn near perfect or as close as reasonably possible..

Different folks do things in different ways but when I'm through polishing I go straight to sealant, there is no need for a glaze. I'd ask why a glaze was used at all.
Do you know what type of buffer was used?

[Demonik]

well these scratches were never there in the first place, so if he made them, could he have covered them up?

....and he just used a rotary buffer

oh and the first thing that came out of the guys mouth were...

"you said it was fine when I was done"

"it could have been from driving"

"swirl marks?"

so already he made excuses...I may not know everything about car detailing, but when its overcast and the car is detailed, things arent going to show up....road debris doesnt cause your trunk to get full of scratches, and swirl marks are going to happen on black...

[RTexasF]

Yes, it's very possible he could have left the "half moon" marks especially since he used a rotary. Scratches are unlikely. Are you talking about actual scratches in the paint that you can feel with your fingernail or just marks? It is possible that the guy did things correctly and something else caused this.

[psyshack]

You need to take a picture of the finish.

If its all swirled up then its the roto.

If its cob web then when you washed it you just took the make up off.

I bet its a mixture of both.

Pics would be nice. Mr. Tex could get to the bottom of it very quick. :)

[Peniole]

You see this is why I do all my own detailing! Good exercise.

I agree with psy, you need to show us pics if you can.

[AndyCpe08]

Or It could been the wash mitt your were using to wash it. If the wash mitt was dropped on the floor gets dirt in it and will make swirls and long line scratches.

[jnguyen]

Ok so i just washed my car and i have noticed scratches of all kinds, alot in weird half circle marks, long scratches, etc on my car....a week ago it was detailed and looked perfect

i know that after while imperfections will come back, but these scratches were never on my car.

so to those who know their stuff, if a detailer were to make scratches in the car would i not see them in the beginning and now after awhile see them?

the car got clayed, polish, glaze, and paint sealant.

I am so frustrated, i have the guy coming back out on friday and i need to know if i can prove my point of him doing the damage.

one of two things. First find out if he used a rotary..most detailer do and thats probably the problem. If they're holograms then its a poor detail job. Something like this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ebpcivicsi/DENAIL%20holograms/tn_IMG_0493.jpg
is only caused by rotary buffers and thus you couldn't have caused it by hand.

As far as you not being able to tell, if the car was delivered in the shade or out of direct sunlight it would be very very hard to tell that they were there in the first place. Another thing you might want to take into account is if you wash the car properly. Do you use a good washing mitt and a good drying towel?

Another cause of long scratches could be cause from dusting the car with a california duster for example. I remember I spent a good 5-6 hours machine detailing my car and the scratches were back within 2-3 days of detailing due to my lack of knowledge on how harmful a duster can be. One thing to take into deep consideration with the nighthawk black is that honda paint is extremely soft so if your car is dusty the best thing you can do is just hold off on the dusting and just wash it when you get the chance. Remember Black isn't a color it's a part-time job.

[Accordlover]

I see you have nightmare black pearl.

Hate to say it, but I've never seen any Honda/Acura in this color that is more than 2 yrs old and not covered in swirl marks. Never.

Hopefully your damage is fixable! :)

[RTexasF]

First find out if he used a rotary..

He had already stated that it was a rotary buffer. Good shots of the holograms :bawl:

[Demonik]

well i do have a bit of the holograming thing going on, its not as bad as that but its there.

the day this was done it was overcast so i couldnt see anything on the paint really

here are pics of the scratches that were not there before the car was done, and now after a wash (i do 2 bucket method with decent priced materials, i might not be a pro but im not a noob either)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/syntheticfestus/CIMG0486.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/syntheticfestus/CIMG0487.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/syntheticfestus/CIMG0488.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/syntheticfestus/CIMG0489.jpg

[RTexasF]

Many of those look like they are too severe for a normal "detail" to take care of. They will likely require wetsanding by an expert but they still won't disappear. I doubt the gent that detailed your car did those. Even if he had a piece of grit in one of the pads it would not have looked like that.

In all honesty I don't think he took care of the surface like Jason or I would were it in our trust but I don't think he caused that many marks. Those kind of scratches are not consistant with ANY kind of buffer known to man. The light holograms? Yes that's the rotary buffer but not the scratches.

Some of the semi circular marks are very simple.....the man did NOT polish the car well enought to remove them and covered it up with a glaze, now they are reappearing. The scratches are a different animal and require a lot more information to figure this mess out.

[princess]

The pix with the red at the bottom looks like what kitties do!

[RTexasF]

VERY good point Princess. Kitty Cat is likely. It is obvious but didn't even occur to me at all DUH ON ME!

[princess]

It happened to mine a couple of years ago! I was ready to kill that cat!! It was lots of work, but they went away.

Not ALL dark cars get swirl marks! I had none until washing & drying with microfiber. They were also lots of work to smooth out!

We don't use any machines....just lots of elbow grease. :D

Zaino goes on in lines...not circular motions.:thmsup:

[RTexasF]

It was lots of work, but they went away.


The cats or the marks?

[psyshack]

The one pic is roto. The others are cat!

[princess]

Well, I was talkin' 'bout the marks!

The cat went away too!:thmsup:

[jnguyen]

The one pic is roto. The others are cat!

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