View Full Version : Why Did You Pick the I-4 Over the V-6??
bluestars80 03-31-2008, 05:55 AM We needed our own thread, I felt. Anyway, I drove both when I bought my Gen 7. At the time,it was a few months after Katrina, and gas was hitting $3.39 around here. Plus, the dealer wanted $1500 more for the V-6.
I decided to go for fuel economy. I truly do a 50/50 mix of driving, and have averages 28.5 mpg for 41,000 miles.
I know the V-6 folks brag about mileage, but I find more and more it's the MANUAL V-6 guys...........:lmao:
RTexasF 03-31-2008, 05:58 AM I wanted a V6 sedan but with a manual gearshift. Honda didn't make one at the time so the four banger won out.
Greg S 03-31-2008, 06:28 AM Very simple. We don't need the extra power of the V6. I mostly drove the car when it was new and I drive a total of 11 miles to and from work in suburban traffic. Now my wife drives it to work and she does 70 miles round trip almost exclusively freeway driving and at 31 mpg that is much nicer to pay for than getting 25-26 in the MINI and paying for premium. If we every want more power I can always go forced induction, but the 2.4 is plenty big enoung for 95% of our driving. Aside from my first car, which was a 78 Olds Cutlass with a V8 I've never owned a car with an engine larger than a 2.5 V6 and have always been plenty happy. I guess I just like small cars.:D
bluestars80 03-31-2008, 07:06 AM I only wanted to add that I have had several smaller GM cars over the years and their 4 cylinders are crap compared to Honda and Toyota.........underpowered, 3-speed autos, yuck........:(
TCHondatoy 03-31-2008, 07:57 AM I bought the 4 cylinder b/c that's what was available on the lot and it had everything I wanted with it, 2005 2.4L Navi Silver on Black, and in the end I'm glad i bought it. I've had it just over two years and have 108,000 MI. I wonder how much money I have saved by going witht he smaller engine? I am probably averaging 26 - 30 MPG overall
mitchleary 03-31-2008, 10:53 AM More on this topic
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16530
Fuel economy, doing 99% of my driving in town did not warrant the v6.
Simply put - there is absolutely no need for the V-6...unless of course you are in your (very) early 20's and needs to show off your car in average of 2 minutes a month; other than that, on a daily basis commute to/from work and some family weekend travel/errands there is absolutely nothing that the V-6 does better than I-4....other than supporting our enemies (AKA - Saudi Arabia).
Oh, and BTW V6 drivers, I could afford if I wanted to...
pazbien 03-31-2008, 04:53 PM Simply put - there is absolutely no need for the V-6...unless of course you are in your (very) early 20's and needs to show off your car in average of 2 minutes a month; other than that, on a daily basis commute to/from work and some family weekend travel/errands there is absolutely nothing that the V-6 does better than I-4....other than supporting our enemies (AKA - Saudi Arabia).
Oh, and BTW V6 drivers, I could afford if I wanted to...
Amen! :thmsup:
TSaysanasong 03-31-2008, 06:58 PM Its the only 5SPD they have for the sedan. 5SPD was a must for me!
DuckMuck 04-01-2008, 01:00 AM #1) It was cheaper
#2) I felt it had adequate power for my needs when I test drove it (granted, it is no Ferrari, but it does it job as basic transportation)...
#3) I am guessing that maintenance/parts are slightly cheaper for the inline-4 in the long run...
#4) The inline-4 gets better mileage without even the need to try...for horsepower, they say there is no replacement for displacement...I think for mileage, there is no replacement for smaller displacement...
I think the V6 is great...just not for me...I'm just trying to be practical...I wish they would bring back the inline-4 for a lot of the European makes, i.e. BMW, Mercedes-Benz, etc...I really liked the 318i and the 190E's...they were basic, solidly built cars...
TomRock 04-01-2008, 03:05 AM More on this topic
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16530
Fuel economy, doing 99% of my driving in town did not warrant the v6.
I was going to say, we had this discussion already recently :D
I was purposely downsizing from a pickup truck, I could have afforded the V6 but the V6 models on the lot were all loaded models (I didn't see any base EX V6's) and I wasn't interested in the extra features and at the price point those were selling for I might have just gotten another truck anyway.
In fact I was looking at an FJ Cruiser that I could have bought for around the same price as an EX-L V6 I would have taken the FJ definitely.
But like I said I was trying to purposely downsize, and I have heard alot of good things about Honda's 4 cylinder engines. I was thinking with the gas prices where they are and may likely to be, I'll take any savings I can.
When I first started looking at Honda's I was actually interested in the Civics, but when I saw the row of new Accords I couldn't help but check them out and I liked the roomy interior better so I bought one :).
I do have to admit though if they had a base model EX with a V6 on the lot I would have taken it for a test drive just to see.
It will be interesting to see where Honda takes the Accord in the future if gas prices get really out of control...
cajun 04-01-2008, 04:54 AM -I'm a cheapskate
-Having a V6 that goes ~1 sec faster in the 1/4 mile than a 4cyl does me no good on my daily commute.
-If I wanted a fast car with a nice exhaust growl I would have bought a Mustang GT. :notworthy
chuckf1 04-01-2008, 07:50 AM Gas mileage. And I bought my car during the summer of 2005, when gas wasn't even half of what it is now. If gas was under a dollar when I bought my Accord, would probably have gone with the V6.
Heckler 04-01-2008, 09:01 AM I agree with all of you. And I also add that I bought my accord to transport my daughter. I don't need a V6 so I can have a badge, show off, waste more gas or "try to go fast" (nobody in an accord goes fast btw).
It's also plenty smooth for me. It's safe, it's reliable, and I hope it will last a long time...and gas is cheaper. Simple, logical, practical.
native.texan 04-01-2008, 09:47 AM The I4 offers sufficient HP for my needs. Driving in/around the city of Boston, there is not much room for opening up a V6 - even on highways. I4 offers sufficient acceleration.
mike
jang859 04-01-2008, 10:34 AM -I'm a cheapskate
-Having a V6 that goes ~1 sec faster in the 1/4 mile than a 4cyl does me no good on my daily commute.
-If I wanted a fast car with a nice exhaust growl I would have bought a Mustang GT. :notworthy
well im with u i got the i4 but if you get v6 stick u actuallly get to 60 in 2.5 seconds faster. u sure about the quarter mile?
bluestars80 04-01-2008, 10:45 AM well im with u i got the i4 but if you get v6 stick u actuallly get to 60 in 2.5 seconds faster. u sure about the quarter mile?
Maybe not, but who cares? All I know is on a trip back from Nebraska last summer, in 95 degree heat, at 68mph, with the air on, I got 34 mpg in my I-4. I finally stopped at 420 miles because I needed a break,and I still had plenty of gas left..............:notworthy
I don't think a V-6 can do that........:thmsup:
alpha 04-01-2008, 08:47 PM Maybe not, but who cares? All I know is on a trip back from Nebraska last summer, in 95 degree heat, at 68mph, with the air on, I got 34 mpg in my I-4. I finally stopped at 420 miles because I needed a break,and I still had plenty of gas left..............:notworthy
I don't think a V-6 can do that........:thmsup:
I drove a 4.5 hour trip going about 65-70mph, and I was able to get about 33-34 mpg.
Depending how I drive, I can have great gas mileage, or horrible gas mileage.
I know this is the i4 thread, but I wanted to say; if there wasn't a V6 6spd on the lot at the time, I probably would have gotten the i4. The k24 is a very capable engine, and has a lot of potential.
dafish 04-01-2008, 09:11 PM When I went to look at Honda's the main thing I wanted was fuel milage. I really went to look at Civics, but saw the 07 accords being discounted because the 08's were coming out.
Test drove the I4 and was quite impressed with the power. It seemed much quicker than our 6 cylinder mid 90's Camry. The salesman asked if I wanted to test drive a 6, but I declined. Didn't want to spoil the impression I got from the 4.
Driving 30 miles each way to work and averaging 32 mpg. Lowest 29, highest 35.2. I'm still quite impressed with the power of the 4. Putting the pedal down and hearing that growl is a lot of fun.:nuts:
bluestars80 04-02-2008, 05:47 AM I drove a 4.5 hour trip going about 65-70mph, and I was able to get about 33-34 mpg.
Again, I have an AUTOMATIC, and got that. Like I've said on these threads, a V-6 with an AUTOMATIC can't touch the I-4 with a manual OR automatic.........:yes:
I know this is the i4 thread, but I wanted to say; if there wasn't a V6 6spd on the lot at the time, I probably would have gotten the i4. The k24 is a very capable engine, and has a lot of potential.
It's nearly impossible to find a manual V-6 sedan where I live. NO dealer is willing to order them, they only order them for the coupes........
edwilson13185 04-02-2008, 06:38 AM I bought the I4 when I did because I had a long commute at the time. Even though I don't now, I do a lot of city driving and I think this is where the K24 particularly shines over the J30/35 in fuel economy. I'm also of the peak oil camp, and I think $100/barrel oil and $3.50/gal gasoline are going to be considered the "good old days" in a few more years. At that point, I'll take any and all fuel savings I can get.
Accordriver 04-02-2008, 07:00 AM To provide another prospective, I opted for the v6 (auto) because I figured a sacrifice of 3 mpg highway warranted the 80 horsepower and 51 ft/lbs of torque ^_^
I drive almost all highway, and even with the auto I got 33mpg on my trip across the state (~500mi)
I got a 4-cylinder EX-L with nav, because I wanted the nav system and didn't want to pay more for the V-6 version. I traded an EX-L V6 coupe, which was my *dream* vehicle, for it. So I gave up 50 hp, and got voice activated nav and Bluetooth. :) Oh yeah- I got a cargo net on Monday-a major thing I missed from the coupe.
Heckler 04-02-2008, 07:46 AM I got a 4-cylinder EX-L with nav, because I wanted the nav system and didn't want to pay more for the V-6 version. I traded an EX-L V6 coupe, which was my *dream* vehicle, for it. So I gave up 50 hp, and got voice activated nav and Bluetooth. :)
awesome trade.
as a unrelated side note i wonder if the v6 makes up for some peoples lack of manliness. an accord is certainly not the car for that. if i need that i will drive my redkneck lifted blazer with a procharged 350 v8 ...but it rarely gets driven due to 10 mpg. thats why i bought an i4
DH did not fit very well in the coupe, which we had to drive on trips due to his F-150 getting, what, 15 mpg?
JBrian 04-02-2008, 08:07 AM We have one of each, but I like mine better! I've also been able to pull down 33Mpg out of my wife J30, but the K24 manual will always be at least 4Mpg better for the same commute.
WisAccord 04-02-2008, 08:35 AM Fuel mileage is really important to me so the I4 won out. Every 1mpg change equates to $117 a year for me.
07AccordEx-L 04-02-2008, 03:40 PM My dad picked my car out. He didn't bring me to go pick it. But if i had to choose, i would've chosen the v6 BUT the i4's (k24) has more potential than the v6 does. The extra u would pay for a v6 could be enough to put into the i4 to make it as powerful if not more powerful than the v6. so I don't think it matters. Other than that, I don't have any other use for the other features the v6 offers like homelink system.
07AccordEx-L 04-02-2008, 03:41 PM Well with gas prices going up to like 3.30 at least we won't be at the gas station as much as the v6'ers lol
GeoLogic 04-10-2008, 11:18 AM I've always had 4-cylinder engines in my cars, and have always appreciated the superb balance of efficiency and power they're able to deliver.
The 4-cylinder engine is the absolute bread and butter of Japanese automobile design and history. It's what companies like Datsun/Nissan, Honda, and Toyota built their entire empires on, and there's a valid argument to indicate that these companies, hands down, build the best 4-cylinder engines in the entire world. And given that I always have and always will insist on the best, and won't tolerate mediocrity, a 4-cylinder is what I intended to buy from day one.
Except for the lame FS-DE in my previous Mazda Protégé (I HATED that lousy engine), I've been very, very pleased with the job my 4-cylinder engines have done for me. They've taken me on all of my great explorations of the open road, where I needed something I could depend on to provide reasonable performance while saving me money. Couple that to the added benefit of lesser emissions, and a 4-cylinder was the correct, responsible, practical, and logical choice. Vanity be damned, I know what the best value in an engine is.
Not to discount the merits of Honda 6-cylinder designs, but everyone and their butt-uncle builds a nice V6 engine. Even American V6's are often refined and decently efficient. But to build a refined 4-cylinder-- That's an art form. It takes real talent. Consider that the K24 engine is compared to the smooth operation of many V6's--- Well, that says something. Us modest 4-cylinder 7th + Generation Accord owners are driving the truest measure of excellence in engine design; that which is nearly unmatched. Our engines are something uncommonly special, I feel. The Honda V6? In truth also a very good engine, but it lives in a crowded arena full of other V6’s that are also quite good, if not equal. But pretty much no one rivals Honda’s newer 4-cylinders in combined efficiency, reliability, and advanced refinement. I dig that.
And contrary to many complaints, I’ve been extremely impressed with the performance from my K24. Considering how large and heavy the 7th Generation Accord is, the pull exhibited by this engine is remarkable-- It serves my acceleration needs perfectly, and indeed, exceeds my expectations.
So anyway, not to berate anyone else’s choice to drive a V6-- If not for polluting more and increasing demand for fossil fuels, I wouldn’t care at all if someone prefers the added power/smoothness of a V6. To each their own! But I have absolutely no need for one. I’m pleased and proud to drive a 4-- It's the correct choice, especially these days...
car divorced 04-10-2008, 12:33 PM Simply put - there is absolutely no need for the V-6...unless of course you are in your (very) early 20's and needs to show off your car in average of 2 minutes a month; other than that, on a daily basis commute to/from work and some family weekend travel/errands there is absolutely nothing that the V-6 does better than I-4....other than supporting our enemies (AKA - Saudi Arabia).
Oh, and BTW V6 drivers, I could afford if I wanted to...
I needed the V-6...
...because I wanted my car for the long haul, and in 2003 the EX-V6 was the only way to get side curtain airbags. Turns out I made the right choice, based on the IIHS side impact crash test ratings for the Gen 7 (http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=276) - which were Poor for models without head curtains and Good for models with head curtains!
Another reason, at the time - the V6 was a ULEV, and the I4 was a LEV.
I average 28-29 MPG with my V6. All time low is 26, all time high is 32 - I do 80% highway driving.
With all that said, though, I would have bought a 4 if the head curtains were available.
Kelsen 05-07-2008, 08:05 AM When I bought my '03 from the dealer, it was simple economics; although having the additional horsepower of the V6 would be nice, it was never a requirement; that is, the I4 had enough for every situation I ever found myself in. For 120,000 miles.
A couple of months ago, I went looking for a used Honda for my 17-year old daughter, And decided to buy the coupe I had wanted in '03 for myself instead, and give her my reliable used Honda.
I decided I wanted the red car, and with the 6-speed; I do enjoy a manual transmission. The V6 is icing, and I have not (so far) had to pay too much of a (gas) premium for the privilege. I am getting around 25 mpg with the V6, vs. a lifetime average of 27.81 with the I4.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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"You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do." –- Anonymous
leeleee 06-14-2008, 01:03 PM Had a 99 Maxima before this and never really pushed it hard as often as I thought I would have. The V6 also wasn't really worth the extra gas to me. I mostly just use my car for work and getting from point A to point B now anyways.
arasheht 06-14-2008, 01:06 PM Quiet honestly, I don't trust myself with a car with THAT much power. I'm prone to abusing it, and I prefer never to expose myself to those dangers :P. I'm the kinda person that drives very relaxed, until someone cuts me off, thats when I kinda enjoy playing with the pedals.
treday630 06-14-2008, 01:43 PM There was many different factors for picking the I4 over the v6.
1. Price of the car
2. The I4 was as bad as I thought compared to the v6
3. The most important was insurance. I was just in accident and I totaled my tC and I was getting avg quote of $300.00 more to insurance the v6 over the I4.
ezshift5 06-14-2008, 02:41 PM I decided I wanted the red car, and with the 6-speed; I do enjoy a manual transmission. The V6 is icing, and I have not (so far) had to pay too much of a (gas) premium for the privilege. I am getting around 25 mpg with the V6, vs. a lifetime average of 27.81 with the I4.
I like that San Marino Red too!! (but got reflective T. White for the hot Central Valley........the record around here being 114F!) Indeed - IMHO - the V6 is icing (plus I get upwards of 33 almost always on the freeway).
I already had an I-4 (yes, it's a little diesel - quod erat demonstrandum)
best, ez....
blyndgesser 06-16-2008, 05:00 PM I bought my '02 V6 in August 2005. I wanted to go with Certified Pre-Owned (not so much the warranty as the special APR Honda was offering). Some of the CPO Accords on the lot looked pretty awful--I was surprised the dealer bothered to "certify" them. I probably would have preferred an EX I4 5MT, but the only one they had looked like hell. So I bought the car that was in the best condition, with the fewest miles, and the extra power was simply a bonus. Of course, that was a week before Katrina, and gas was still $1.45 a gallon here in Georgia. If I had known what was coming, I probably would have waited for the "right" car, rather than the "right now" car.
gmech 06-16-2008, 06:09 PM After 8000km of breaking-in the powertrain of my 07 I4 SE, it truly rocks!!! It has smooth power all the way up the power band, and I love the way the engine picks up from the get go... it is ONE quick 4 banger!!
The reasons for not buying the V6? :paranoid: For 99% of city commuting, a V6 just doesn't make any sense. Even though I owned a 07 Civic sedan before I made the switch to an Accord, I didn't regret about the extra fuel consumed. It is a much smoother car in general, and I definitely feel safer (despite the fact that Civic was built with ACE body structure technology). I don't think it is likely for me to switch back into a smaller car in a short while. :biggrin:
07HondaV6 06-17-2008, 09:33 PM Needed a car soon and wanted an Accord EX-L. If I was only concerned about gas mileage I would have bought a Civic. I simply could not locate a low mileage EX-L 4 cyl Accord. Found the V6 in Morroccan Red Pearl with low miles in mint condition. Colorado altitude makes a difference, I thought the 4 cyls I drove seemed weak up here over 6,200 ft. I really like the extra power but don't drive aggessively.
At 10,000 miles a year I would spend $2100 on gas assuming it is $5/gal with around 24 mpg avg. If the car got 30 mpg avg the savings would only be about $400 a year. Not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of life. Buying a used 2007 V-6 vs. a new 2008 4 cyl also saved me thousands of dollars--would take over 4-5 years to offset that difference.
I'm all for getting better mileage, but the economics of "5 mpg more" is not always as big as it seems once the math is done.
camdion1 06-17-2008, 09:36 PM Truth is....I'm not a Baller:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
mt_mtl 06-21-2008, 09:19 AM I just traded in my '05 Dodge Magnum R/T for an '08 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L i4 for obvious reasons. Although I do miss the sudden rush of a 5.7l Hemi, I couldn't justify going with the V6 Accord if my main goal was to cut back on the rising cost of fuel...
I am literally cutting my fuel costs in half.
bluestars80 06-23-2008, 06:37 AM I'm all for getting better mileage, but the economics of "5 mpg more" is not always as big as it seems once the math is done.
You're on the wrong thread, this is not the thread about how V-6's get MORE mileage than an I-4..............:lmao::lmao:
USAFRET 06-26-2008, 11:15 AM While the V6 is a "better" performing car I don't view it as a "performance" car. In the end I opted for the slightly better fuel mileage and lower initial cost of the I-4 EX-L.
Plus I already have a performance car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/AFVETTE/Road%20America%20Apr%202007/RoadAmericaApr2007012.jpg.
Tuolumne 06-26-2008, 01:21 PM Honestly I got the V6 because I can't stand the buzz and noise of four bangers.
KunalPatel87 06-26-2008, 03:16 PM Honestly I got the V6 because I can't stand the buzz and noise of four bangers.
You should have post that in this thread: Why did you choose the V-6 over the I4??? (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16540&highlight=styling+added+safety) Haha.
We own one of each favor. :)
gschmelt 07-31-2008, 03:49 PM I went from a 98 Accord EX-L V6 to my 06 Accord EX 2.4L. The 4 feels just as peppy as my 6 did. You only need the torque if you are racing or merging and for merging the 4 has plenty.
I also want to do anything I can do keep every dollar I can out of the Middle East. Yup, I'm a &@#)!
Simply put - there is absolutely no need for the V-6...unless of course you are in your (very) early 20's and needs to show off your car in average of 2 minutes a month; other than that, on a daily basis commute to/from work and some family weekend travel/errands there is absolutely nothing that the V-6 does better than I-4....other than supporting our enemies (AKA - Saudi Arabia).
Oh, and BTW V6 drivers, I could afford if I wanted to...
I :wave:agree 100%
The big advantage of the V6 over the I4 was the addition of stability control, not available on the I4. Plus I don't like cars that feel an immediate power sap when you turn on the A/C. I4's and A/C don't mix too well, and I run my A/C all the time in the summer. V6 is also smoother than an I4 and way more fun to drive. The gas mileage advantage of the I4 was not enough to sway me over the V6 for all the other advantages the V6 has over the I4.
The 2008 Accord is a different story. The V6 in the coupe does not get very good gas mileage, and the I4 now comes with stability control. So I would probably get an I4 EX-L coupe with the manual transmission if I was buying an Accord today. Plus 190 hp is a lot better than 166 hp, so the I4 isn't at such a power disadvantage. And the difference in gas mileage between the new I4 and the 6-speed V6 in the coupe is much more extreme than the pre 08 model.
bluestars80 08-01-2008, 05:51 AM The 2008 Accord is a different story. The V6 in the coupe does not get very good gas mileage, and the I4 now comes with stability control. So I would probably get an I4 EX-L coupe with the manual transmission if I was buying an Accord today. Plus 190 hp is a lot better than 166 hp, so the I4 isn't at such a power disadvantage. And the difference in gas mileage between the new I4 and the 6-speed V6 in the coupe is much more extreme than the pre 08 model.
Not according to the 2008 V-6 VCM homers on here...........:wave:
TomRock 08-01-2008, 07:42 AM Not according to the 2008 V-6 VCM homers on here...........:wave:
I've seen such a wide variance of mpg reported on this forum, from both engine types that I would only believe it in person :lmao:
bluestars80 08-01-2008, 08:19 AM I've seen such a wide variance of mpg reported on this forum, from both engine types that I would only believe it in person :lmao:
Good luck with that. It has been my experience that the bigger the engine, the BETTER the fuel mileage gotten.........I can't see how that works from a physics perspective but oh well...........:lmao:
TomRock 08-01-2008, 08:39 AM Good luck with that. It has been my experience that the bigger the engine, the BETTER the fuel mileage gotten.........I can't see how that works from a physics perspective but oh well...........:lmao:
It wouldn't suprise me actually, I just don't believe I everything I read on these forums... :)
turbodave 08-01-2008, 09:50 AM Not according to the 2008 V-6 VCM homers on here...........:wave:
Well, be jelous and call us names if you like, but VCM does in fact work. Want to see my mileage data figures?
TomRock 08-01-2008, 10:20 AM Well, be jelous and call us names if you like, but VCM does in fact work. Want to see my mileage data figures?
Jealous as in can't afford it? I don't think money was the deciding factor in the purchase decisions for 100% of the I4 owners around here....just saying.
bluestars80 08-01-2008, 10:24 AM Well, be jelous and call us names if you like, but VCM does in fact work. Want to see my mileage data figures?
You're in the wrong thread, this is a thread for "poor" folks that can't "afford" the V-6............
BTW, it's spelled "jealous"............
I believe I have a nickname on here: "Honda fanboy"............which is funny on a Honda forum...........:lmao:
justeddie 08-01-2008, 10:42 AM Well, be jelous and call us names if you like, but VCM does in fact work. Want to see my mileage data figures?
Yeah dont bring up mileage when you speak to turbodave (he's got a room full of fuel data figures :thmsup:).
As for picking the I4 over the V6...
- I4 is a lively little beast... you can hear the full range of the engine without going to jail.
- more custom performance parts out
- interior comfort and features are the same as a V6 (if fully equipped)
I wanted to get a I4 at first but...
- no fog lights
- 17" wheels (on the 8gen accord.. :thumbsdow)
- single exhaust (dual just gives better proportions)
- a lawnmower has more torque
- a Prius can keep up with you (I HATE the so called "Green" cars)
- people with I4s told me about the problem they have been having.
- "Hey they didn't finish making this car! Where is the hydraulic pump for the hood?! Where is the trunk cover?!"
I figured it would cost LESS to go V6 than to add all the accessories needed to add the missing features.
but again, my first choice was the I4 until I realized what I relaized to each his own.
turbodave 08-01-2008, 10:55 AM Yeah dont bring up mileage when you speak to turbodave (he's got a room full of fuel data figures :thmsup:).
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Why the the hostility? Aren't you driving one?
bluestars80 08-01-2008, 10:57 AM I wanted to get a I4 at first but...
- no fog lights
- 17" wheels (on the 8gen accord.. :thumbsdow)
- single exhaust (dual just gives better proportions)
- a lawnmower has more torque
- a Prius can keep up with you (I HATE the so called "Green" cars)
- people with I4s told me about the problem they have been having.
- "Hey they didn't finish making this car! Where is the hydraulic pump for the hood?! Where is the trunk cover?!"
I figured it would cost LESS to go V6 than to add all the accessories needed to add the missing features.
but again, my first choice was the I4 until I realized what I relaized to each his own.
You forgot some downsides on the V-6:
Higher insurance (I checked)
Many folks who have VCM are complaining about it (shuddering, etc) there's a whole bunch of posts about it on acurazine or one of those websites.
Worse gas mileage (despite the heady claims)
Timing belt versus chain
Just a few things..........
bluestars80 08-01-2008, 11:01 AM Why the the hostility? Aren't you driving one?
Ok, you busted my chops pretty good on another thread, this thread is about WHY you CHOSE the I-4 OVER the V-6.
There's more V-6 defenders than I-4 defenders on here. And, turbodave, I am not doubting you're getting 32 or whatever on the highway, but you have to agree that you can't PROVE it on the Internet. Anyone can put a bunch of numbers on a spreadsheet and post it on the Web, happens all the time.............:yes:
justeddie 08-01-2008, 11:07 AM You forgot some downsides on the V-6:
Higher insurance (I checked)
Many folks who have VCM are complaining about it (shuddering, etc) there's a whole bunch of posts about it on acurazine or one of those websites.
Worse gas mileage (despite the heady claims)
Timing belt versus chain
Just a few things..........
Higher insurance is due to higher value (common sense)
VCM shudders on 3 cylinder mode ONLY. no reason to complain seeing it doesnt affect performance/durability (all three cylinder motors shudder - I have it dont find it to be a problem)
Mileage depends on the way a vehicle is driven
Yeah still amazed at the fact it is a BELT!!!...
BUT no need to put down the V6. this is about praising the I4 (which I did) and I dont recall putting down the ENGINE (why you gotta bring up the timing belt ... UNCOOL!):naughty:
bluestars80 08-01-2008, 11:25 AM Higher insurance is due to higher value (common sense)
If gas hits $6 a gallon, that will no longer be the case........:lmao:
My final comment is at LEAST Honda has TWO good options for us to chose from, something GM and others can't say. How many times have you heard stuff like "The Chrysler 3.0 V-6", that's a CRAP engine".............:lmao:
turbodave 08-01-2008, 11:37 AM And, turbodave, I am not doubting you're getting 32 or whatever on the highway, but you have to agree that you can't PROVE it on the Internet. Anyone can put a bunch of numbers on a spreadsheet and post it on the Web, happens all the time.............:yes:
Ok, I suppose that can be said, although that's not my style. I certainly wouldn't populate a spreadsheet to facilitate a bunch of lies; how juvenille would that be.
Of course it means nothing, but I also have every gas reciept to back up my claims.
In all honesty I do in fact get 31 on the highway, and am now averaging over 25 in my daily commute.
Sorry for getting off topic. I'll bow out.
justeddie 08-01-2008, 11:41 AM If gas hits $6 a gallon, that will no longer be the case........:lmao:
My final comment is at LEAST Honda has TWO good options for us to chose from, something GM and others can't say. How many times have you heard stuff like "The Chrysler 3.0 V-6", that's a CRAP engine".............:lmao:
Yeah... the good news is that the OPEC president says he expects it go down to $70 a barrel (here is hoping).
Haha I love the fact that, on this forum, after all the arguing and bickering is done, we can all come together and agree that American cars are a joke!
-Now I will let all the I4 owners reclaim their authority over this thread. GO I4!!! :thmsup:
Good luck with that. It has been my experience that the bigger the engine, the BETTER the fuel mileage gotten.........I can't see how that works from a physics perspective but oh well...........:lmao:
I'm not talking about the VCM engine, I'm talking about the engine in the 6-speed coupe which does not have VCM. The 08 6-speed coupe, and the 08 I4 EX-L coupe have a large spread in gas mileage. It wasn't so dramatic with the 06-07 V6 coupe and the 06-07 I4 coupe. The difference between the two was 3 mpg, now it's at least 6 mpg if not more.
The 08 V6 in the 6-speed coupe is a great engine, but good gas mileage is not one of it's traits the way it was in the 06-07 6-speed coupe. I love the 3.0L V6 in my car, and find it's the perfect compromise between horsepower and fuel efficiency. I'm getting very good gas mileage driving in a sane manner. 30 mpg on the freeway and about 23 mpg in the city. For a V6 with A/C running at all times I'm okay with those numbers.
ezshift5 08-01-2008, 10:44 PM I love the 3.0L V6 in my car, and find it's the perfect compromise between horsepower and fuel efficiency. I'm getting very good gas mileage driving in a sane manner. 30 mpg on the freeway and about 23 mpg in the city.
On the Interstates, using sixth gear at about 2200 RPM, my 6M has repeatedly demonstrated stellar fuel efficiency (almost unreal). City numbers - however - do not win many awards.
best, ez....
Tuolumne 08-02-2008, 07:32 PM Ok, I suppose that can be said, although that's not my style. I certainly wouldn't populate a spreadsheet to facilitate a bunch of lies; how juvenille would that be.
Of course it means nothing, but I also have every gas reciept to back up my claims.
In all honesty I do in fact get 31 on the highway, and am now averaging over 25 in my daily commute.
Sorry for getting off topic. I'll bow out.
With all honesty it's not too difficult for any V6 engine to get 31mpg on the highway if its left at 65mph.
With all honesty it's not too difficult for any V6 engine to get 31mpg on the highway if its left at 65mph.
I don't believe that to be true. There are plenty of V6's which will never achieve that hwy mileage. It's more than just the fuel efficiency of the engine, it's also the aerodynamics of the car. My friend taught me about the coefficient of drag and how that affects gas mileage. My 07 coupe has a coefficient of drag of .29, which is apparently very low. You put the same V6 in an SUV, which has terrible drag coefficient and you will not get the same gas mileage. Also an SUV is a truck and trucks are heavier than cars in most cases. Weight affects fuel efficiency. Plus not all V6's are engineered as well as the one in my car.
There are VERY few V6's out there rated at 244 hp that will see the kind of gas mileage I get on regular unleaded. I could probably count on one hand actually.
Knight04 08-03-2008, 05:38 AM My I4 picked me, the dealer had made a mistake with an internet price quote, and I could not pass on the deal. I was sceptical about the 4, but so far after 2 weeks with the car I am very happy. I thought for sure I would find the car lacking since my previous car (04 Linc. LSE) had every option under the sun, and a 3.9L V8. But the power and handleing on the I4 coupe seems to have a good balance. It's not the same as the LSE, but hopefully the accord will not cost me 1K every time it has to go to the dealer for service!
Tuolumne 08-04-2008, 07:18 PM I don't believe that to be true. There are plenty of V6's which will never achieve that hwy mileage. It's more than just the fuel efficiency of the engine, it's also the aerodynamics of the car. My friend taught me about the coefficient of drag and how that affects gas mileage. My 07 coupe has a coefficient of drag of .29, which is apparently very low. You put the same V6 in an SUV, which has terrible drag coefficient and you will not get the same gas mileage. Also an SUV is a truck and trucks are heavier than cars in most cases. Weight affects fuel efficiency. Plus not all V6's are engineered as well as the one in my car.
There are VERY few V6's out there rated at 244 hp that will see the kind of gas mileage I get on regular unleaded. I could probably count on one hand actually.
In my Volkswagen at least, I know that if I set cruise between 65 and 70mph, the MFA display will start calculating a 31-32mpg very quickly. It's a 30v 2.8L with only 193~hp, so you raise a good point on the power/displacement front. The thing is, this same engine is a complete pig in the city, averaging 16-17mpg.
MySilver_08 08-04-2008, 07:48 PM Yada Yada Yada! Some of you "V6" guy's need to drive in NYC, then let's see how much gas mileage that puppy gets! For me, I'm averaging 18mpg in the city (as of last tank), but then again, I drive in NYC! As for the highway, I've gotten 34mpg (as of last night), which is far better than the 22-24mpg I got in my last vehicle (Dodge Nitro). Now, why did I purchase the i4 you ask? Simple, I wasn't thrilled with the mpg I'd gotten in the city with the Nitro, and it didn't put a smile on my face like it used to. To top it ALL OFF, the damn gas prices were on the rise, and climbing!:yes:
stevencrosbie 08-04-2008, 07:50 PM You couldn't pay me enough to enjoy living in a large city like NYC....
I'm glad you like it as someone has to do it.
MySilver_08 08-04-2008, 07:54 PM You couldn't pay me enough to enjoy living in a large city like NYC....
I'm glad you like it as someone has to do it.
Oh but Steve, I certainly don't like living in NYC! Heck nah! Actually, I'm out in NJ more than NYC.
stevencrosbie 08-04-2008, 07:56 PM Oh but Steve, I certainly don't like living in NYC! Heck nah!
Oh man...sorry buddy...I do know some people dream of living in cities that large....you apparently are not one of them. Sorry buddy...hope you can find your way out someday.
MySilver_08 08-04-2008, 07:59 PM Oh man...sorry buddy...I do know some people dream of living in cities that large....you apparently are not one of them. Sorry buddy...hope you can find your way out someday.
After living in NYC for 38 yrs, I'm looking forward to the day where I can get the fruit out!:D
listen to remix 08-04-2008, 09:07 PM Oh man...sorry buddy...I do know some people dream of living in cities that large....you apparently are not one of them. Sorry buddy...hope you can find your way out someday.
I like living here... but I can't say I like driving here.
golftango 08-06-2008, 11:33 AM 1. Economics (fuel and insurance costs, overall bottom dollar)
2. Resale, most people will want an I4 than a V6 when shopping with today's, and future gas prices
3. Mechanics (timing chain, automatic transmission worries, ease to work on)
Carmen03 08-06-2008, 11:59 AM Gas prices are out of this world!
Before my 03 coupe I just bought less than a month ago....I drove the following....
- 91 Chevy Corsica
- 91 Honda Accord got 218,000 miles on that bad boy! (LOVEDDDDDDDD IT!)
- 97 Ford Thunderbird V8 ---- Classic, but said bye bye to the V8
- 97 Buick LeSabre V6 ---burned gas too fast....
FZ6biker 08-10-2008, 03:18 PM I actually went the opposite way of the migration :dunno: and opted for the V6 with Vcm :thumbsup: I have always had the 4Cyl but After driving the new V6 there was absolutly no contest and I am happy:nuts: with my decision.Also the 4cyl dosent really get that much beter mileage than the V6 with the vcm. 4 or 6 Accord is the way to go:thmsup:
listen to remix 08-12-2008, 09:07 PM I got the 4 cyl because of gas prices... I kind of regret it. I want more passing power.
JBrian 08-13-2008, 04:09 AM My commute is close to 100 miles a day mostly a freeway slog. My last several fillups:
36.45Mpg
35.71Mpg
34.01Mpg
38.31Mpg
34.41Mpg
36.35Mpg
bluestars80 08-13-2008, 06:27 AM I actually went the opposite way of the migration :dunno: and opted for the V6 with Vcm :thumbsup: I have always had the 4Cyl but After driving the new V6 there was absolutly no contest and I am happy:nuts: with my decision.Also the 4cyl dosent really get that much beter mileage than the V6 with the vcm. 4 or 6 Accord is the way to go:thmsup:
That may be true on the highway, NO WAY if you do a lot of city driving..........:yes:
kcsoundguy 08-14-2008, 08:33 AM I wanted the I4 because I wanted the EX-L with all the goodies and didnt want to pay for the EX-L V6...to much for a accord if you ask me. Plus I have a 05 TL so if want the v6 power I can just drive that. But for city driving the I4 accord was the best choice for me.
rexflexall 08-22-2008, 10:22 AM I got the 4 instead of the 6 mainly because of price. On the dealer lot I went to, there was 3 08 Accord coupes left, an LX, and EX, and a V6. It was the last 08 Accord EX coupe on the lot, and I got a great price for it. For $200 under invoice it was a steal. They wouldn't give me that price for the V6, and the LX wasn't really an option because I wanted a sunroof. So the Accord coupe 4 won out, and it's a great car.
I've only had 4 cylinder cars my whole life, my 94 Accord and my 97 Prelude..and I still got in plenty of trouble for em'. Between those 2 cars I got 2 tickets...for speeding! The V6 would have been a choice for me if it was for a great price and I wasn't prone to having a heavy foot.
The Accord coupe 4 handles just fine for me for now. I have no problems driving around and such and the engine seems plenty strong. The main reason I would want a V6 is for freeway passing and some of the extras. But insurance kinda kills it a bit for me with the V6. I don't drive the freeway too much either, or go on very long trips. Although some of you on here with regular 4s have said it cruises with no problems, which is reassuring.
But no matter what I4 or V6, both good choices for no matter what you want to do!
bluestars80 08-22-2008, 10:25 AM with regular 4s have said it cruises with no problems, which is reassuring.
34 mpg with the air on at 67mph. 36 with the A/C off, and I have a 5 automatic
mitchleary 08-22-2008, 01:23 PM I got the I4 as I hardly ever drive out of town and stopping and going all the time i would be using all 6 cyl. Sure there are so cool things about the six like the hood sruts but do i really need them? no.
WisAccord 09-09-2008, 05:21 AM I purchased the 4 cyl primarily for fuel economy. I'm not disappointed.
NightHawk4 09-09-2008, 08:00 AM Bills Bills Bills
So the 4 was affordable.
I'm am so far from being dissapointed. Coming from a 127hp D16 SOHC VTEC 96 del sol to a DOHC VTEC K24. 190HP is no slouch.
Marc08EX 09-09-2008, 10:47 AM I picked up the 4-cylinder because I have a long commute and I want a more economical car than a V6. At first I thought that the 4-banger had a timing belt and I knew replacing timing belts on a 4 banger was cheaper than a V6. But because of this board, I found out that it has a timing chain and there's no need to change it!! WOOT!
I'm more than happy about the power it produces. I agree with everyone that it's no slouch. I'm just disappointed that some features are only available in V6 models.
B52Wing 05-11-2009, 11:50 AM I wanted a 5-speed manual transmission and it only came with the I4 at the time.
uhohkaitlina 05-11-2009, 11:52 AM Clearly, because I'm an idiot.
The gas mileage still sucks. I feel cheaped out of a good motor, and good MPG.
AznX TL 05-11-2009, 11:53 AM the $6k difference in price.
unclejud49348 05-12-2009, 06:07 AM Better gas mileage and I drive about 120 miles a day so it adds up.
08coupex 05-12-2009, 06:43 AM the $6k difference in price.
x2...
1Lieutenant 05-13-2009, 11:04 AM I purchased a 2008 EX-L V6. Not because I wanted to, but because Honda, in their infinite wisdom, does not offer electric passenger seat in the EX-L with I4. My wife has had knee replacements with limited range of mobility. An electric seat for her is a must. (Needs to move the seat frequently).
I love the car, but this is really stupid marketing.
alanr 05-13-2009, 11:39 AM Timing chain, no maintance. 4 cly running at the same time vs 6/4/3 who knows. Better engine period! I got an average of 32 mpg on my 2008 and my 2009 is getting 32.7 so far with 4,000 miles on it. Oh sold my 2008 with 58K and an average of 31-32. Great gas mileage, 5 oil changes and 3 sets of brakes!
OIL CHANGE AND BRAKES PLEASE!
bluestars80 05-13-2009, 11:52 AM I purchased a 2008 EX-L V6. Not because I wanted to, but because Honda, in their infinite wisdom, does not offer electric passenger seat in the EX-L with I4. My wife has had knee replacements with limited range of mobility. An electric seat for her is a must. (Needs to move the seat frequently).
I love the car, but this is really stupid marketing.
I think Honda knows us I-4 folks are cheap and don't want to pay for that stuff. Keep in mind that VW offers a LOT of free electronic gadgets for cheap, but we all know how reliable they are..........:thumbsdow
I see your point, but Honda has always catered to the V-6 crowd with gadgets. I think I-4's still are well over 50% of their sales..........
Tuolumne 05-16-2009, 11:52 AM I think Honda knows us I-4 folks are cheap and don't want to pay for that stuff. Keep in mind that VW offers a LOT of free electronic gadgets for cheap, but we all know how reliable they are..........:thumbsdow
VWs are, on average, more expensive not due to added "electronics", but because of added refinement and attention to detail. Things like electronic parking brake, side window shades, direct injection, better fit/finish.
Journey 05-16-2009, 01:31 PM VWs are, on average, more expensive not due to added "electronics", but because of added refinement and attention to detail. Things like electronic parking brake, side window shades, direct injection, better fit/finish.
Sadly I think anybody who owned or owns a 1999-2005 Jetta or Golf would disagree with the added refinement and attention to detail. There is nothing more nerve racking then getting into a car and wondering if the thing was going to start or whether the windows, locks, AC, transmission etc were going to work. Or my favorite, the damned melted crayon smell coming from the vents. VW knows this was a problem that affects most of these cars and did nothing. At a price that was paid for the car new, I could have gotten Corolla or Civic, saved money and boosted reliability
Cheers
L
Journey 05-16-2009, 01:47 PM the reason I got a I4 over the V6 was that the two main things I wanted was a Accord Sedan and a manual transmission.
Sadly Honda has only decided to offer a V6 Sedan for two years with a manual trans (2006-2007). Even more sad for me it happens to be a model generation (Gen 7) that I personally think is butt ugly and would not buy.
As much as I like the current gen's coupe, a coupe is impractical for me at this point in my life.
So I looked into the Gen 6 models and bought an I4 with the manual transmission because the V6 editions had the problematic transmissions.
Had Honda offered a stick shift V6 Accord Sedan in Gen 6 or even in the current Gen (Gen 8) I would have bought one of those. Gas prices are not a factor as my old truck gets about 16 miles a gal, so anything would be an improvement:D
Cheers
L
komiiro 05-16-2009, 05:37 PM I picked the 4 cyl over the 6 cyl because of fuel mileage as well, but given my car has been rated with about 160hp for a 4 cyl, I consider it a good trade for such decent hp's with the fuel mileage.
J30A5Refined 05-16-2009, 06:08 PM I decided to go for fuel economy. I truly do a 50/50 mix of driving, and have averages 28.5 mpg for 41,000 miles.
I know the V-6 folks brag about mileage, but I find more and more it's the MANUAL V-6 guys...........:lmao:
I get 21-22 mpg using lots of AC and 25-26 mpg without AC out of my AUTOMATIC V6. This is 7.5 gen. But you are right and I want an I4 7.5 gen for the very reason you mention: better fuel economy. But how much better?!
GTFan712 05-16-2009, 06:21 PM I'm in the same boat as many others are. During the time when I purchased my Accord, gas was high, and I wasn't really interested in performance. In retrospect, I'm only getting 15 mpg now, so I'm not sure why I went with the I4 over the V6. For the extra money, you're getting the lip spoiler, dual exhaust, 18" rims, chrome handles, many other features, but can't turn back now.
-GT
is1ander 05-16-2009, 06:30 PM the rated 25 mpg vs 31 mpg highway was a big deal for me. 25 mpg on the highway is terrible.
other than that, 4 cyl is simpler than 6, less likely to break and cost less, lighter so the handling is more responsive. i am very satisfied w the 4 banger.
Kelsen 05-17-2009, 06:27 AM I'm in the same boat as many others are. During the time when I purchased my Accord, gas was high, and I wasn't really interested in performance. In retrospect, I'm only getting 15 mpg now, so I'm not sure why I went with the I4 over the V6. For the extra money, you're getting the lip spoiler, dual exhaust, 18" rims, chrome handles, many other features, but can't turn back now.
-GT
Get thee to the dealership; something is way messed up if you're getting 15mpg. Or you're simply driving 110mph every where you go.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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Choose your allies carefully; it is unlikely you will be held accountable for the actions of your enemies.
vioaltec 05-17-2009, 11:10 AM parents picked the I-4, had no say. grateful either way cause it saves hella gas for my daily commute to school.
foamypirate 05-17-2009, 11:30 AM I4...because...well, that's all the 4th gens came with! :D
Kayzle 05-17-2009, 01:08 PM my first car was a 94 camaro z28 and I had my fun, that was when I was 16, I'm now 23 and just really have no need for speed anymore.
Main factor was price, I could afford a v6 but there was nothing enticing enough to make me WANT to afford it, I'm more into having a nice looking car then a fast car these days, and they look basically the same other than an extra exhaust tip and chrome handles so it didn't matter to me
vioaltec 05-17-2009, 02:17 PM my first car was a 94 camaro z28 and I had my fun, that was when I was 16, I'm now 23 and just really have no need for speed anymore.
Main factor was price, I could afford a v6 but there was nothing enticing enough to make me WANT to afford it, I'm more into having a nice looking car then a fast car these days, and they look basically the same other than an extra exhaust tip and chrome handles so it didn't matter to me
I feel you, im more for looks then performance too.
GTFan712 05-17-2009, 02:28 PM Get thee to the dealership; something is way messed up if you're getting 15mpg. Or you're simply driving 110mph every where you go.
I basically stomp on it every where I go. I don't speed (that much) but it doesn't take me long to get to the speed limit.
-GT
dennisho18 05-17-2009, 10:37 PM I feel you, im more for looks then performance too.
you should've gotten the 328 then instead of that beastly 335... lol we still need to hang out one of these days.
Kayzle 05-18-2009, 12:03 PM I feel you, im more for looks then performance too.
I'm probably going to hurt a few peoples feelings by saying this but I just don't see the point it trying to throw everything but the kitchen sink on a four cylinder to try and make it fast. If I wanted something fast I woudl have bought something else.
The new accord body style is nice as hell though, so I'll spend my time making it look even nicer :)
needvoglights 06-02-2009, 12:00 AM I wanted to buy a car that saved gas for a change. I didn't think I would like the performance of the engine, but the passing power is actually great! BTW, its my first Honda and I'm happy I made the "switch".
bluestars80 06-02-2009, 06:38 AM I'm probably going to hurt a few peoples feelings by saying this but I just don't see the point it trying to throw everything but the kitchen sink on a four cylinder to try and make it fast. If I wanted something fast I woudl have bought something else.
You don't hurt my feelings at all. My I-4 is one of the most enjoyable cars to drive I have owned. Sure, it can't hit 100 on a freeway entrance ramp but so what? Plenty of power, and it is NOT the slowest 4 cylinder out there. I often wonder if Honda would ever add a supercharger to their 4 cylinders, now THAT would be interesting.
I could definitely see a TSX with a supercharger..........:notworthy
SkylessKnight 06-02-2009, 07:22 AM With the gas milage i'm getting on the 4 banger, the v6 mighta saved me money!
bluestars80 06-02-2009, 07:56 AM With the gas milage i'm getting on the 4 banger, the v6 mighta saved me money!
The higher insurance costs and more maintenance required evens it out............:yes:
Plus, isn't the V-6 option like $3000 more? That's a LOT of gasoline........:thmsup:
shogun 06-02-2009, 01:13 PM With all the traffic cams, police, sheriff's & state troopers on the roads I can't even come close to appreciating the full potential of my 190 hp i4. I already got a ticket on a country road for going 45 on a 40 mph road!
mOe tHe mAn! 06-02-2009, 01:17 PM Plus, isn't the V-6 option like $3000 more? That's a LOT of gasoline........:thmsup:
Pretty much ended up paying $2k more for the v6.
Got the v6 because my last car was an underpowered 4banger altima (not a low blow at 4bangers, just at altimas :D), didn't want to have any sort of buyers remorse down the line and I absolutely don't. :thumbsup:
from a really honest pov, the v6 is more power than I use on any given day to go from point a to b, its nice to have it there and have really appreciated the few times I was rushing down the highway but if you dont want passing power on highways and dont really care for it, go for hondas respected i4.
SkylessKnight 06-02-2009, 01:18 PM The higher insurance costs and more maintenance required evens it out............:yes:
Plus, isn't the V-6 option like $3000 more? That's a LOT of gasoline........:thmsup:
True! At least there is a positive side too it.... Sometimes I need to be reminded every once in awhile.. I pay an arm and a leg for insurance... I was I got old folks insurance costs... man, my grandpa is covered (min. liability only) for only 30 something a month!
SkylessKnight 06-02-2009, 01:19 PM I already got a ticket on a country road for going 45 on a 40 mph road!
I hope the judge laughs at the cop, and dismisses...
Good luck with that tho!
needvoglights 06-02-2009, 10:47 PM Got the v6 because my last car was an underpowered 4banger altima (not a low blow at 4bangers, just at altimas :D), didn't want to have any sort of buyers remorse down the line and I absolutely don't.
I've always had the same POV when picking a motor. This is the first time I haven't purchased a high output car, but I don't regret it at all. Sure, there are times when the car downshifted because of my foot, but the i4 seems to be a good choice. I'm scared to drive fast anyway...to many accidents and cops.
arasheht 06-02-2009, 10:59 PM I recently noticed that my previous '08 Accord I4 got worse gas mileage than the current V6 in my TL. BOTH have 70L tanks, and they both went a distance of 450-500km a tank. This comes out to a 14L/100km (or ~17MPG) usage, which is pretty bad for an I4 and normal for a V6 I'd say.
To add to that, the TL V6 does not have VCM and runs on Premium Gas.
Had I known that, I would have gone V6 far earlier!
CYANiDE 06-07-2009, 05:15 PM Chose it because of mileage. Needed an auto cuz I'm going to be driving in ridiculous amounts of traffic really, didn't want to replace the clutch or transmission.
glen e 06-07-2009, 05:51 PM chose the I-4 as it was 6K cheaper...mine is used strictly for commuting....I'm getting 20 around town - good enuf for me...
If I want to fling a car around, I'll take my wife's 335 Coupe...
taylour 06-07-2009, 06:58 PM When I was looking for a car, I originally was looking at a new Scion TC (Just came out when I was looking). The Scion had a 4cyl... I was killing time one day looking at cars, and saw my Graphite Pearl V6 Accord! I bought it and have never regretted getting the V6. Gas mileage is never lower than 20mpg, and I have had 34.8mpg as my best fuel economy ever. Not too bad :yes:
Mochimellow 06-13-2009, 10:30 PM I went from a '95 i4 accord. I don't know how many horsepowers it had but when I testdrove the '09 i4, I was like =O.
BStein 06-13-2009, 10:41 PM it was the only thing they had on the floor when i went to buy it, i never order cars i only buy what they have at the dealers
danpilot 06-16-2009, 06:29 PM We had a choice of V-6 or I-4. The 6 is sweet, but we already have a Honda V-6---in our Pilot, which obviously needs it. The 190 hp 4-cylinder has plenty of power for town/suburban and even highway driving. And the mileage is quite a bit better. Good commuter car, and the automatic makes for relaxing stop-and-go city driving. I wish it would hold 1st or 2nd gear longer, though, without having to really put your foot in it. It upshifts pretty quickly. All in all, plenty of power. Remember the first Hondas? Didn't they have 68 hp?
rszappa1 06-16-2009, 07:05 PM I did not want to get Belted....I like to be chained....
Gosha 06-16-2009, 07:33 PM Main reason was i had to dump my broken 05 Altima and get something the dealer could get for me ASAP. I tried to get a 5mt but at the time i was buying the coupe they were at the highest demand so had to settle for an Auto I4. I wanted an I4 from the start because they couldnt find a 6MT and i was not going to settle for an AT v6 because it would make no sense as it looses so much power. I4 suited my bill as well being a college student and working a full time job.
DuckMuck 06-17-2009, 06:30 AM I bought the inline-4 purely to save money...I have been getting consistently29~31mpg during everyday driving...I am sure there are a few added savings in terms of maintenance for the inline-4...it is adequate for my needs...
tech104 06-17-2009, 07:13 PM main reason i bought my 06 accord i-4 was because it runs off a chain so i won't have to change it. More room in the engine bay for me to work on it. coil pack for each cylinder which are on top. good gas mileage. k series motors are quite reliable not saying that the v-6 isn't. But since im a mechanic i wouldn't have to pay for it to get worked on but. The i-4 spark plugs would be cheaper for anyone that pays for work to be done. the v-6 will need to get the timing belt eventually changed. the v-6 6 speed has problems with the transmissions. which the 5speeds don't.
only dissapointment is that the v-6 sedan still has exhausts for it.
where the i4 are hard to find if there are any.
v-6 nolo 06-18-2009, 05:24 AM what transmission problems are you referring to?
tech104 06-18-2009, 07:21 PM the 6th gear pop out.
v-6 nolo 06-19-2009, 05:10 AM hmmm...i have heard of the 3rd gear pop out (both V6 and I4), and the 2nd gear crunch but no 6th gear popping out?
alain 06-19-2009, 11:35 AM The 4 cyl 5MT Accord coupe is a completely different animal from the 6-6 About the only thing you could take from it would be the dimensional things. Everything else related to the drivetrain (power, shifter and clutch feel) as well as the chassis feel is quite a bit different.(This is from Jeff temple of vtec)And i totally agree with that
81 hp make a difference larger tires etc....
J30A5Refined 06-19-2009, 11:38 AM We needed our own thread, I felt. Anyway, I drove both when I bought my Gen 7. At the time,it was a few months after Katrina, and gas was hitting $3.39 around here. Plus, the dealer wanted $1500 more for the V-6.
I decided to go for fuel economy. I truly do a 50/50 mix of driving, and have averages 28.5 mpg for 41,000 miles.
I know the V-6 folks brag about mileage, but I find more and more it's the MANUAL V-6 guys...........:lmao:
If you own a 7.5 gen, there is reason to own BOTH an I4 AND/OR a V6. I kidd you not, its that great of a vehicle on the market. (and in case you haven't heard, a LOT of vehicle makers are declaring bankruptcy and not only that asking the government to 'bail them out'..hrmph, imagine this?)
It's not manual V6 guys but THIS AT V6 guy who is bragging about fuel savings.mileage. I've been pulling in mid 25s and 26s out of my gas mileage and this is now in the heat of summer when I use my gas way way more liberally.
I own an Automatic V6 AT from the year 2006 and I brag about my gas mileage!!
bluestars80 06-22-2009, 06:58 AM If you own a 7.5 gen, there is reason to own BOTH an I4 AND/OR a V6. I kidd you not, its that great of a vehicle on the market. (and in case you haven't heard, a LOT of vehicle makers are declaring bankruptcy and not only that asking the government to 'bail them out'..hrmph, imagine this?)
It's not manual V6 guys but THIS AT V6 guy who is bragging about fuel savings.mileage. I've been pulling in mid 25s and 26s out of my gas mileage and this is now in the heat of summer when I use my gas way way more liberally.
I own an Automatic V6 AT from the year 2006 and I brag about my gas mileage!!
WOW.....old thread.......:lmao:
I just did a long trip a couple weeks ago. Got 33+ both ways.......:thmsup:
Kelsen 06-23-2009, 03:09 AM What's a 7.5 gen? My recollection is that each generation of the Accord is built for 5 years; I guess that would make a 7.5 a 2005 model - but that's a model, not a generation.
I myself own two 7th-gen Accords, on the opposite ends of the spectrum in all but model years.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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"Tubby or not tubby, fat is the question!" -- Jules de Gaultier
bluestars80 06-23-2009, 06:43 AM What's a 7.5 gen? My recollection is that each generation of the Accord is built for 5 years; I guess that would make a 7.5 a 2005 model - but that's a model, not a generation.
I myself own two 7th-gen Accords, on the opposite ends of the spectrum in all but model years.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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"Tubby or not tubby, fat is the question!" -- Jules de Gaultier
7.5 are the so-called "refresh years" of 2006 and 2007, in what many think was Honda's reaction to the new body style Camry in 2005...........
Boba Fett 06-23-2009, 10:07 AM I haven't read the other 10 pages of posts, but I chose the 4 over the 6 because I couldn't find a 6 I liked (I had a ton of criteria - year, style, interior, had to be manual, couldn't smell of smoke or pet, must be under 40k miles, must be under $15k, etc., etc.) and the fuel economy on the 6 was hard to justify for me right now (though I would have found a way to justify it if I found a 6 I liked :-P
I was looking for a manual 4 or 6. I drove both. I loved the acceleration of the 6. The only 6 I found in manual that met most of the criteria, failed when I drove it and the AC vents bathed me in a wet dog smell. On closer inspection, the interior was very scratched up, and the Honda dealer hadn't even vacuumed well enough to get the wads of pet hair out.
I did find a 99% perfect 4 however that looked like it had barely been used. Was decked out (only missing the navigation which I didn't really need), and only had 35k miles on it with a $13K price tag after haggling.
And while I can tell a performance difference between the 6 and the 4, I don't feel like I'm losing that much. I had a Mazada6 before and I can tell a difference in acceleration, but again, not to the point that I would miss it. The 4 still has enough power to put me in the back of my seat if I work the gears right.
vadimk 06-23-2009, 05:51 PM i picked my I4 because of only one reason and that reason alone
i drive only Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC) engines
personal reason and choice
nohopes 06-26-2009, 03:47 PM I chose my I4 cuz I was darn fed up of my 2000 V6 which gave crap MPG and hell lot of issues. But when I found this baby with 10K miles on it, I fell in love with car and purchased it right away.
warz2k4 06-26-2009, 06:09 PM v6 uses more gas shitty mileage, i live in the city, you have no reason to go that fast..
Monetary reasons (I'm a student). Plus, I have enough fun in my i4 MT...for now.
88AccordLX-i 06-29-2009, 05:34 PM Monetary reasons (I'm a student). Plus, I have enough fun in my i4 MT...for now.
I still say that I wish I could afford a new car while in school. :lmao:
09ACCORDEXL 07-03-2009, 11:53 AM I bought it for purely for resale value especially when gas hit's $5.00 a gallon
danpilot 07-04-2009, 11:37 AM I chose the I-4 because it has enough power for city and suburban driving, with 190hp, and is quite a bit better on gas than the V-6. I did go for the more powerful of the two 4-cylinders Honda has for 2009, and with VTEC I figured it was good enough for urban commuting. It has turned out that way. Only negative is relatively quick upshifts out of 1st and 2nd gear, so if you need to accelerate from a rolling start you really have to punch the throttle to get the automatic to kickdown. But no big deal.
Upset w/ Honda 07-12-2009, 02:01 PM Chose the 4cyl (177hp) over the V6 cuz the 4cyl was more than enough for the type of driving I would be doing.... to and from work, mostly highway.
Also wanted to get get the slightly better gas mileage of the I4 vs the V6.
I didn't need any extra power for towing or the likes.
jc07accord 07-12-2009, 02:10 PM I pick the inline 4 over the v6 because of the fuel economy. At the time of purchasing my car, the gas prices was almost $5.00 per gallon here in NYC.
I should have went for a V6 though because of the extra hp and the VSA that even the top EX-L Inline4 does not offer.
J30A5Refined 07-12-2009, 05:38 PM i picked my I4 because of only one reason and that reason alone
i drive only Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC) engines
personal reason and choice
yeah you do say dumb stuff alright. DOHC doesn't really get you anything. For example, I think the dbw they added in 2006 for the I4 was bigger deal then any DOHC. You aren't going to get better power on DOHC over SOHC. Need more proof, you don't get any better gas mileage either with over a V6.
I picked my V6 because it was the only one out of the half dozen I4s and V6s I test drove. Personal preference but I will not drive a Honda with vibration at idle and it makes not difference whether it is brand new or used!
TomRock 07-13-2009, 05:09 AM I think Honda charges too much of a premium for the V6 option personally, at least on the 8th gens.
Plus most of the V6's are bundled with EX-L trim level, which I really didn't care about. If the dealership had a V6 sedan with EX trim on the lot I probably would have taken it for a test drive.
For the price of a EX-L V6 Accord I would have bought another truck honestly, with 4WD and a V6 engine.
Honda should offer a DOHC V6 with timing chain. :)
TomRock 07-13-2009, 05:11 AM yeah you do say dumb stuff alright. DOHC doesn't really get you anything. For example, I think the dbw they added in 2006 for the I4 was bigger deal then any DOHC. You aren't going to get better power on DOHC over SOHC. Need more proof, you don't get any better gas mileage either with over a V6.
I picked my V6 because it was the only one out of the half dozen I4s and V6s I test drove. Personal preference but I will not drive a Honda with vibration at idle and it makes not difference whether it is brand new or used!
You sound like you have anger management issues, lol.
bluestars80 07-13-2009, 06:06 AM yeah you do say dumb stuff alright. DOHC doesn't really get you anything. For example, I think the dbw they added in 2006 for the I4 was bigger deal then any DOHC. You aren't going to get better power on DOHC over SOHC. Need more proof, you don't get any better gas mileage either with over a V6.
That is hilarious.....better get on the horn and tell the Honda enginners how they have been screwing over customers with their dubious mileage claims for over 30 years.........:lmao::lmao:
I picked my V6 because it was the only one out of the half dozen I4s and V6s I test drove. Personal preference but I will not drive a Honda with vibration at idle and it makes not difference whether it is brand new or used!
Didn't know the 8th gen I-4s vibrate, I thought that was 2003 only.......:dunno:
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