I almost purchased the V6 back in 2004, but went with the I-4 because of prior history with Honda 4 bangas.

Im :banana: .........every single MPG over the V6 is :thmsup:.

I can see the majority of people driving tiny 4s in the near future......40-50mpg as a regular daily driver. :dunno:


On the other hand.......my wife drives a Tahoe :bawling:

On the other hand.......my wife drives a Tahoe :bawling:

Haha, someone has to spend your money somehow...

Vcm :p

At a regular 24mpg (which is only a couple mpg less than my Type-S was...and only uses regular unleaded), and 28-30mpg on the interstate, I'll keep my V-6 6-speed.

Last tank averaged 27mpg with no added effort on my part to drive conservatively. I know this topic has been beat to death but the 3.0 V6 is a relatively fuel efficient engine...as V6's go. No regrets here!

At a regular 24mpg (which is only a couple mpg less than my Type-S was...and only uses regular unleaded), and 28-30mpg on the interstate, I'll keep my V-6 6-speed.

Pretty good, but an I-4 can get upwards of 28 city and 35 Hwy :dunno:

At a regular 24mpg (which is only a couple mpg less than my Type-S was...and only uses regular unleaded), and 28-30mpg on the interstate, I'll keep my V-6 6-speed.



........hopefully this won't paint an anal picture:

With (1) 25-27 mpg around our state capital, (2) 34 - 36 mpg almost guaranteed on the Interstate system and finally (3) a 50 MPG capable diesel trucklet hiding in the back of my garage.......................

Like the man sez: my V-6 6M stays................

all the best, ez....

Pretty good, but an I-4 can get upwards of 28 city and 35 Hwy :dunno:

Never saw those numbers consistently in my '02 I-4. I averaged about 28-29mpg...once again with no extra effort on my part to improve mpg.

........my I-4 stays!!!! :thumbsup:

........my I-4 stays!!!! :thumbsup:

Glad you're happy with it.

Dont get me wrong ilove my accord, but after filling up my I4 at $3.69/gal im wishing the prius wasnt so butt ugly...i would have bought one. My mom is averaging 55 city and 45-50 hwy with hers (yes..city mpg is better due to acceleration and deceleration charging the battery) and she loves it...of course she doesnt mind the styling, shes 60......

........my I-4 stays!!!! :thumbsup:

Not trying to talk you out of it...just trying to keep things in perspective.

If I compare the two engines mpg's with fixed numbers....

yearly mileage - 15,000
gas @ $3.50/gallon
V6 mpg @ 27 (what I am seeing now)
I4 mpg @ 35 (I think a little high but I will use it for arguments sake)

Yearly cost of gas for the V6 = $1,944.44
Yearly cost of gas for the I4 = $1,499.99
Difference of $444.45/year....which may seem substantial at first but that works out to about $8.50/week which really isn't all that much...two large coffees at starbucks maybe? If $8.50/week is going to break you, you have bigger problems than $3.50/gallon gas....but still, it is always nice to save any way you can.

I think the actual numbers are a little closer than what is illustrated above.

Never saw those numbers consistently in my '02 I-4. I averaged about 28-29mpg...once again with no extra effort on my part to improve mpg.

The F23 is entirely different than the K24 in the newer Accords (03+).

It's considerably less efficient, dating back to the 1990 Accord. Also,if you had an automatic, it only had 4 gears, not 5, whereas the newer Accords have 5spd AT's, which allows for lower revs and better mileage. :yes:

The F23 is entirely different than the K24 in the newer Accords (03+).

It's considerably less efficient, dating back to the 1990 Accord. Also,if you had an automatic, it only had 4 gears, not 5, whereas the newer Accords have 5spd AT's, which allows for lower revs and better mileage. :yes:

All points well taken!

3.50 per gallon??? It's 4.00+ here!:paranoid:

I still have no regrets over the V6.... it just got 30.8 @ 75 mph on CC with a 40 mph headwind!

I agree with it's all in what the perspective is....since mine is filled up about 6 weeks apart....the few extra dollars aren't a big deal. The last tank was over 53 dollars! The stations have finally stopped having the 50 dollar cut off....some are now 75.00...unfortunately, it still shut off on the Ridgeline's last fill! (It gets filled every other week):D

yeah im happy with the mpg on my i-4....32 mpg @75mph....but i wouldnt mind sacrificing a few mpg's for more power....

I had an '04 I4 MT coupe...... got about 26-27mpg with my normal driving....


my '06 V6 MT sedan gets 23-24mpg with the same driving.

be happy with your I4...... I'll get a TERRIBLE 3-4mpg less and enjoy the power of the V6. :thmsup:

or does that mean I'm supporting terrorists? :paranoid:

The last tank was over 53 dollars! The stations have finally stopped having the 50 dollar cut off....some are now 75.00...unfortunately, it still shut off on the Ridgeline's last fill! (It gets filled every other week):D

what a cut off? since when? i remember putting $100 in every other week to fill up my 94 ford FlairSide, and that was when gas was around $2.70 per gallon:paranoid:

what a cut off? since when? i remember putting $100 in every other week to fill up my 94 ford FlairSide, and that was when gas was around $2.70 per gallon:paranoid:

Yesterday my cut off was 75. I didn't get that high though.:)

Not trying to talk you out of it...just trying to keep things in perspective.

If I compare the two engines mpg's with fixed numbers....

yearly mileage - 15,000
gas @ $3.50/gallon
V6 mpg @ 27 (what I am seeing now)
I4 mpg @ 35 (I think a little high but I will use it for arguments sake)

Yearly cost of gas for the V6 = $1,944.44
Yearly cost of gas for the I4 = $1,499.99
Difference of $444.45/year....which may seem substantial at first but that works out to about $8.50/week which really isn't all that much...two large coffees at starbucks maybe? If $8.50/week is going to break you, you have bigger problems than $3.50/gallon gas....but still, it is always nice to save any way you can.

I think the actual numbers are a little closer than what is illustrated above.

I don't know what is the demographic here, but $450 a year in extra money to the average middle class family is actually quite a bit...

I don't know what is the demographic here, but $450 a year in extra money to the average middle class family is actually quite a bit...

:yes:

I love my I-4..........if gas prices stay high they will be worth MORE than a V-6, unlike 2 years ago when used V-6s cost $2000-$2500 more to buy..........:)

I don't know what is the demographic here, but $450 a year in extra money to the average middle class family is actually quite a bit...

Really??? $37.50 a month?? $8.50 a week??? It sounds like a lot more when you lump it as $450 but I just can't believe all those people I see smoking cigs and drinking Star-bucks or Tim Horton's or what ever are all upper middle class. We all waste our money....we just all choose different ways to do it.

Really??? $37.50 a month?? $8.50 a week??? It sounds like a lot more when you lump it as $450 but I just can't believe all those people I see smoking cigs and drinking Star-bucks or Tim Horton's or what ever are all upper middle class. We all waste our money....we just all choose different ways to do it.

so true, i am not one of the star-bucks people, i love there coffee, but can't spend $4 on a single drink, that is not refillable...if i do buy something from their i get the cheap normal cofie, that comes with free refills:D:thmsup:

i like wasting money on cars, but i don't have a car i want to mod right now. i love my Accord, but it is best keep stock for the most part.

For the average working class joe on a budget, I'm sure any savings in yearly fuel costs would be appreciated.

I don't think this forum is populated by many of those types though, the majority of the posters here seem to own the fully loaded V6 models. Obviously these people have plenty of disposable income for gas...

I don't make alot of money so I'll take all the savings I can get :D

If gas prices get really high, even the upper middle class will need to cut their fuel consumption (not sure where the breaking point would be).

For the average working class joe on a budget, I'm sure any savings in yearly fuel costs would be appreciated.

I don't think this forum is populated by many of those types though, the majority of the posters here seem to own the fully loaded V6 models. Obviously these people have plenty of disposable income for gas...

I don't make alot of money so I'll take all the savings I can get :D

If gas prices get really high, even the upper middle class will need to cut their fuel consumption (not sure where the breaking point would be).

As a teenage driver who buys his own fuel.

I just totally kicked my racy natured driving to the curb. I hope to see some improvement.

Since gas stations here are primarily self serve, they have usually had a cut off point.... it WAS 50 dollars....some still is. Which meant when filling the Ridgeline, it would shut off... & you had to start all over to finish. He let it go more empty than usual & 75 didn't cover it last time.

We all have different priorities. That's a good thing. It's great to want different things out of life!!:thmsup:

I'm pretty sure CA will see 5 bucks per gallon in the near future. :paranoid:

People HAVE cut back... there's a rise in BART riders & carpoolers here. Although six figures is more "normal" here.... it doesn't go as far.

I deal with many clients from Europe, and they feel the exact opposite. The US is spoiled.....they drive the most gas efficient cars that are available. Not saying I would to that far, but wait till gas climbs to $5-$6 a gallon. :paranoid::paranoid::paranoid:

Really??? $37.50 a month?? $8.50 a week??? It sounds like a lot more when you lump it as $450 but I just can't believe all those people I see smoking cigs and drinking Star-bucks or Tim Horton's or what ever are all upper middle class. We all waste our money....we just all choose different ways to do it.

Well...if you save a couple dollars a week, at the end of the year...the LUMP SUM of all your savings actually amount to quite a bit...just as you said, the $450 looks like A LOT at the end of the year, but in actuality, you are only saving $8.50 a week...I save a couple of bucks in gas, I save a couple of bucks by buying the generic pasta sauce vs. the Ragu brand, I save a couple of bucks by eating in vs. eating out, I save a couple of bucks by cutting my own grass vs. getting a gardener, etc...it actually amounts to quite a bit...that is the entire point...if I can sacrifice power in the passing lane and a cup of Starbucks in the morning so I can have a little extra cash for piano lessons for my kids...I'll do it...I really don't get what is so bad/undignified about this...

Well...if I can sacrifice power in the passing lane and a cup of Starbucks in the morning so I can have a little extra cash for piano lessons for my kids...I'll do it...I really don't get what is so bad/undignified about this...

Agreed. Once I got married, mortgage, and all the related details, I changed my outlook as well. Better to save for that unexpected "whatever" than to splurge on the more powerful engine.

mike.

I just wanted to add that the ONLY folks with V-6's on here bragging how it's "close" between the V-6 and I-4 on mpg are driving 6-speed MANUAL V-6's.

Wheras,on the I-4, you get GREAT mpg with the AT and SUPER mpg with the 5-speed manual........:)

Where are the V-6 AUTO folks bragging on mpg?? :)

I feel every dollar counts......that being said............... I do have a V8 Tahoe in the family. I need it with 4 kids, but I use my I-4 for a daily driver to and from work. Those extra few bucks can go into gas for the HOE.

I really don't get what is so bad/undignified about this...

There is nothing bad about that. Not my point. My point is people get all freaked out on the price of gas and then go buy a $4.00 starbucks....every day! If your times are tough, you should save all you can. It's never a bad thing. But when I see people driving all over town to find the cheapest gas...ie..to save maybe 80 cents if you are lucky...or people who fill up multiple 5 gallon gas cans that will be empty by next week...once again to save maybe another 80 cents...it's a waste of time and effort really. I think the media makes us worry and then many people perpetuate that. Yes, gas is expensive..I agree...just many want to make it out to be the end of the world and it is so not even close to that.

That is my only point.

I just wanted to add that the ONLY folks with V-6's on here bragging how it's "close" between the V-6 and I-4 on mpg are driving 6-speed MANUAL V-6's.

Wheras,on the I-4, you get GREAT mpg with the AT and SUPER mpg with the 5-speed manual........:)

Where are the V-6 AUTO folks bragging on mpg?? :)

I have an auto V6 and I am completely happy with my mpg.

I have an auto V6 and I am completely happy with my mpg.


Cool.........I'm happy with my mpg too.........:yes:

I just wanted to add that the ONLY folks with V-6's on here bragging how it's "close" between the V-6 and I-4 on mpg are driving 6-speed MANUAL V-6's.

Wheras,on the I-4, you get GREAT mpg with the AT and SUPER mpg with the 5-speed manual........:)

Where are the V-6 AUTO folks bragging on mpg?? :)

I’m right here….:wave:

We didn’t buy the V6’s to brag about MPG, we did however buy them to brag about the HP they make….:banana:

In all reality, if I did as much highway driving as my wife does, I would get very close to the same MPG as she does in her 4 banger Camry…If we both did 100% city driving, I think she would be maybe a few MPG’s better than the Accord, but not nearly enough for me to have picked the I4 Accord…

Here is my gas saver... Not bad goes almost straight to my work (after 1 stop). I just cant justify the cost of driving with the parking and the gas. $50 a month is all this takes. Read a book and save the driving for the weekends without traffic.

Here is my gas saver... Not bad goes almost straight to my work (after 1 stop). I just cant justify the cost of driving with the parking and the gas. $50 a month is all this takes. Read a book and save the driving for the weekends without traffic.

While I don't have it quite that good, my commute to work is only 6 miles round trip. So no, I'm not fretting too much either, but you have to admit that the cost of gas is getting ridiculous.

No public trans where I live.....

I love my truck and will continue to drive it. Heck, I get better mileage than most other trucks and some cars!

Oh....and our gas cannot be compared to socialist Europe. They tax their fuel more than we do. I'll pay 8 buck a gallon for fuel if they cut my taxes by half....although not likely.

Here is my gas saver... Not bad goes almost straight to my work (after 1 stop). I just cant justify the cost of driving with the parking and the gas. $50 a month is all this takes. Read a book and save the driving for the weekends without traffic.

I really wish I could take the bus...I live in a suburb of Phoenix called Chandler...the city has been pretty good at almost everything, except they have no plans for any sort of public transportation system...this is pretty much true for a lot of the new suburbs springing up in Phoenix...also, the summer heat and the general long distances between stuff make any efficient transportation system almost impossible...they are talking about a light rail system taking advantage of the pre-existing tracks...I hope something comes out of it...it would really decrease the congestion on the highways and give people more options in terms of transportation...

At the other end of StL, they actually voted down light rail expansion before the prices went way up, so a lot of it has come to the metro east.

It would be nice to see us build up our mass transit system.

I just wanted to add that the ONLY folks with V-6's on here bragging how it's "close" between the V-6 and I-4 on mpg are driving 6-speed MANUAL V-6's.

Wheras,on the I-4, you get GREAT mpg with the AT and SUPER mpg with the 5-speed manual........:)

Where are the V-6 AUTO folks bragging on mpg?? :)

I'm not sure I'm bragging about it, but I'm plenty happy with my mileage. I went from 16 mpg with my old truck to 24 with the new AT V6 coupe.

The combined rating for the '08 4 cyl AT is 24mpg versus the '08 V6 AT's 22mpg. So the 4 is better... but not by nearly enough to change my mind. Trading 2mpg for however much extra power the 6 gives is a trade I'd make any day.

On a side note I couldn't find any other V6 AT coupes that get better than the 22mpg combined Accord gets. A new BMW 128i gets the exact same rating. It seems that if you're in the market for a V6 auto coupe then you can't do better than the mpg Accord gets.

Prius is my dream car now Forget the Acura TL-S.

Prius is my dream car now Forget the Acura TL-S.

:lmao::lmao:

yeah gas is skyrocketing really fast. it hurts my wallet.

I love my 4 banger. Today's 40-mile one way trip returned 42mpg for my car at 65mph most of the time. :D I love my ScanGauge!!!

I really don't get what is so bad/undignified about this...

I wouldn't say I'm "bragging". And I certainly never said there was anything wrong or undignified about saving a few bucks.

My point for ME PERSONALLY was that literally just a few bucks per fill-up is well worth the extra power, smoothness, refinement, and FUN of the V-6 6-Speed.

Like someone else said, if $8-9 a week (which I KNOW is on the high side) is really affecting your lifestyle, then you've got bigger problems than the price of Regular Unleaded. Granted, my overall cost of ownership is more than just a few dollars a week more than a 4-banger, but we're talkin' just about gas here.

I wouldn't say I'm "bragging". And I certainly never said there was anything wrong or undignified about saving a few bucks.

My point for ME PERSONALLY was that literally just a few bucks per fill-up is well worth the extra power, smoothness, refinement, and FUN of the V-6 6-Speed.

Like someone else said, if $8-9 a week (which I KNOW is on the high side) is really affecting your lifestyle, then you've got bigger problems than the price of Regular Unleaded. Granted, my overall cost of ownership is more than just a few dollars a week more than a 4-banger, but we're talkin' just about gas here.


+ 1,000,000 :thmsup:

It's $5.56 a gallon in Canada and rising. Gallon is a little bigger, but still more expensive here. I have owned an EX-L I4 for a week and half. Got 36 on my first out of town trip. Great car to drive.

i have a v6 and love it.
even with gas for me just shy of $4
($3.967 per gallon to be exact and thats with my discount)
it $4.++ on the street.

we also have to take in to account that honda is smart and makes our cars run fantasticly on regular =) while all my coworkers have to use primium or super.

i just love honda

I wouldn't say I'm "bragging". And I certainly never said there was anything wrong or undignified about saving a few bucks.

My point for ME PERSONALLY was that literally just a few bucks per fill-up is well worth the extra power, smoothness, refinement, and FUN of the V-6 6-Speed.

Like someone else said, if $8-9 a week (which I KNOW is on the high side) is really affecting your lifestyle, then you've got bigger problems than the price of Regular Unleaded. Granted, my overall cost of ownership is more than just a few dollars a week more than a 4-banger, but we're talkin' just about gas here.

You have your priorities, and I have mine...

Where are the V-6 AUTO folks bragging on mpg?? :)

:wave:

considering most of my almost 5k miles have been n the highway for long stretches to meet up w/ my parents (airport) and visit my grandmother's farm about 6 hours away (70 mph interstates) I'm quite happy with the 26.3 MPG I've averaged since picking up my 5AT V6 EX-L Coupe on 10/25/08 ...

This is with stuff like, winter blends of gas, using the Heated seats (very little need for the actual climate control for myself)

I've kept all fuel receipts from day 1 ...plus all gas goes on my costco amex card for 3% back (yep, ANY gas station, not just costco pumps) so it's easy to track what my overall mpg has been accurately w/o Navi option and a little bit of calculator pressing.

I'm not bragging whatsoever... If my car was lowered , had deep dish HRE's ...HFP lip kit and a true catback tuned exhaust and custom prg. ECU...I might brag ...certainly not about MPG though lol

Honestly, 20-30 MPG ? Is this anything to really brag about? I mean, yeah, it's nice it runs on 87, can kick out some decent HP figures but I don't see the gas usage as really 'green' ... Our emissions on the other hand, yeah..definitely Honda above the rest.

VCM w/ 5AT has a few quirks for some, and downgrades the 'performance' potential of the 3.5 ...but I knew I wanted an automatic w/ no Navi; even before I knew I was going to get a Accord. The ability to squeeze out 28 mpg on a cruising highway day, with non ethanol gas and little is just a bit of icing on the cake that helped me sign on the dotted line when pricing/specing/internet bargaining with the dealers. Plus, there weren't any i4's in my area for a month+ and selection choices back in October were slim to none unless you wanted to travel, otherwise I wouldn't be in a PMM coupe (which grew on me:) )

i4 or V6 accord coupe, It could be worse, ... we could all be driving, *gasp* altimas instead. lol

I don't think this forum is populated by many of those types though, the majority of the posters here seem to own the fully loaded V6 models.

there are some active, and former military people on here. so, we know what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck..... :)

i think that once i'm out of school, i'll seriously consider getting a second job to pay for what i need/want.

ps: saw the first $3.50/gallon here on the way to the coffee shop just now.... :paranoid: :bawling:

luckily tho, the gas across the street is ONLY $3.48..... so, i'll still be able to drive 80mph for another few days (hopefully)....

We've all got our preferred vices; some of which support foreign countries - be it China, Japan, Columbia, Korea, or Gaszakistan.

Well, my '88 got 26 on it's last tank. That is the best it has been in a while. I thank the warmer weather and the better gas for that. Honestly, that really isn't that good to me. My father gets easily over 35 in the '92.

During the winter, I was averaging between 16 and 18 miles per gallon, all winter! So for me, a V6 would be no different.

Given the choice, even with gas at $3.55, I would still choose the V6, mostly because I like going fast. I'm not going to lie, I can't stand people that drive slow.

Hate me if you want, but there is nothing like the feeling of rapid acceleration (not from my car!) and the noise from a fine engine! :naughty: Maybe it's just the teen in me...

Oil almost hit $120 a barrel today. Gas is setting new record highs here every few days. Folks,,,,, its not going to get better. And everything else is going up. Be it Milk, Copper, Steel, Condoms or Beer. Its all went up. Was informed today that the two MRI's my wife has to have just went up compared to the one she had four weeks ago.

Ive kind of fell out of my hypermiling groove. And it does suck. Ive had to cover a lot of miles in the last few months in the Mazda. I would like to be seeing low to mid 40 mpg tanks about now. Insted of the mid 30 mpg tanks Im seeing. The Accord is giving 33 to 36 mpg tanks for the wife. The wife has been running her normal ruts. My ruts have been running to more remote areas with time issues at hand. And I must admit. The Mazda prefers Zoom Zoom to hypermiling. When you see a warning speed limit of 45 mph heading into a string of turns. That mean 90 mph. ( bad psy )

I had a meeting at work today with the power brokers. Told them my running has got to slow down. My wife is having health issues. and I will be by her side concerning these issues. AND Im tired of running all over two states dealing with junk ass American made products that don't work right from the factory. Time for the idiot factory boys to get there ass's down here, take some butt chewing, fix the junk and see to it that its built right.

I filled up the Accord, Mazda3 and Ranger last weekend. Cost $140! While I haven't and wont bitch about fuel prices. Im not going to pay that much longer. I work to hard for my money to just have it fly out of my wallet like poop does my butt. Not to mention the increasing prices of other goods and services needed.

Drink it while you can. Cause its about to get out of hand......

I could careless about gas prices, Honestly weather you buy a 4 cyl or a 6 cyl its still a killer, the performance and smoothness that the V6 offers is irreplaceable and i wouldn't trade it for a 4 cyl any day, Most of you are missing out!!! And extra 20 bucks a month for an extra 78 hp is awesome and you cant complain about the V6's gas mileage compared to other cars and other V6 engines it gets very good mileage especially the 08..

Oil almost hit $120 a barrel today. Gas is setting new record highs here every few days. Folks,,,,, its not going to get better. And everything else is going up. Be it Milk, Copper, Steel, Condoms or Beer. Its all went up. Was informed today that the two MRI's my wife has to have just went up compared to the one she had four weeks ago.

Ive kind of fell out of my hypermiling groove. And it does suck. Ive had to cover a lot of miles in the last few months in the Mazda. I would like to be seeing low to mid 40 mpg tanks about now. Insted of the mid 30 mpg tanks Im seeing. The Accord is giving 33 to 36 mpg tanks for the wife. The wife has been running her normal ruts. My ruts have been running to more remote areas with time issues at hand. And I must admit. The Mazda prefers Zoom Zoom to hypermiling. When you see a warning speed limit of 45 mph heading into a string of turns. That mean 90 mph. ( bad psy )

I had a meeting at work today with the power brokers. Told them my running has got to slow down. My wife is having health issues. and I will be by her side concerning these issues. AND Im tired of running all over two states dealing with junk ass American made products that don't work right from the factory. Time for the idiot factory boys to get there ass's down here, take some butt chewing, fix the junk and see to it that its built right.

I filled up the Accord, Mazda3 and Ranger last weekend. Cost $140! While I haven't and wont bitch about fuel prices. Im not going to pay that much longer. I work to hard for my money to just have it fly out of my wallet like poop does my butt. Not to mention the increasing prices of other goods and services needed.

Drink it while you can. Cause its about to get out of hand......

If your not going to pay it anymore how will you drive your cars? :dunno:

If your not going to pay it anymore how will you drive your cars? :dunno:

Next meeting ( yeah know college boys love meetings ) will be about me working from home. Meeting with the factorys about getting there damn quality up. So I don't have to run all over two states. Or I could be reping product made in Japan, Korea and Taiwan. They at least seem to care about what they design and build.

I have already put darn near 22k miles on my Mazda3 thats 8 months old. I could have the 3/36k warranty gone when its a year old if this pace continues. I put 44k on the 06 Civic in 18 months. Im on pace to put more than that on the 3. The wifes traveling has increased with more meetings in OKC. Almost twice as many staff meeting than past years. For nothing. They are screwing things up more than ever. She is a admin for a church at the state level. So she is doing books. Setting up and doing stuff for camps, Not to mention regional and state assemblies. And she is heading up the redecoration of the lodges and common areas at one of the camps.

Some if not alot of this driving we do is going to have to stop. While we do get mileage for a lot of it. The problem is. We are drinking gas like it is water. With no end in sight....

i fill up my '93 camry every 10 days at $50 a pop

:D

Good posts Psyshack - thoughtful. I think we will all be re-evaluating our fuel usage in coming months, not to mention the next few years. It is clear that the world oil supply is teetering right at the demand point (85mbd) with little to spare, hence the price spikes everytime there is a hiccup in the supply line. This may be the plateua phase of Peak Oil but we won't know for sure until production volumes begin to drop more significantly.

Right now world demand is rising (China, India, etc) while supply is stagnant and beginning to drop. Almost all the major oil fields - North Sea, Russia, Mexico are dropping in production volume (Cantarell in Mexico is down 7% last quarter) and the big question is Saudi Arabia. Last week they said they will not increase production, in order to conserve resources, but some believethey cannot increase production even if they wanted to, due to their aging fields.

Also rarely mentioned is that many of the oil exporting countries such as Iran, Saudi, Kuwait, Russia, Venezuela, have booming economies due to their sudden oil wealth and their own oil usage is skyrocketing, further reducing the amount they have to export, compounding the problem. We can only hope the transition over the next few years is not too sudden - that gas and oil remain available without shortages - but higher prices are an absolute given, and not just a buck or two.

Thank God were not living at or anywhere near the edge. Honestly, I don't even notice the price difference. Some months gas bills have always been higher or lower 'cuz we drove more, sometimes less. It just is what it is. Kinda like cell phone bills. If fuel prices are hurting, one has two choices: make more money and/or quit pissing what limited funds one has on silly crap and personal vices and non-essentials/luxuries.

And yes, we have 3 nice, powerful and smooth V6s and have zero regrets. I rarely even pay any attention to what mileage we get. We just drive and live our lives. Vrooooooom Vroooooooom! :cool:

If I had to look to a few extra mpgs to feel better about myself, I'd kill myself.

But I don't, so I won't.:D

Next meeting ( yeah know college boys love meetings ) will be about me working from home. Meeting with the factorys about getting there damn quality up. So I don't have to run all over two states. Or I could be reping product made in Japan, Korea and Taiwan. They at least seem to care about what they design and build.

I have already put darn near 22k miles on my Mazda3 thats 8 months old. I could have the 3/36k warranty gone when its a year old if this pace continues. I put 44k on the 06 Civic in 18 months. Im on pace to put more than that on the 3. The wifes traveling has increased with more meetings in OKC. Almost twice as many staff meeting than past years. For nothing. They are screwing things up more than ever. She is a admin for a church at the state level. So she is doing books. Setting up and doing stuff for camps, Not to mention regional and state assemblies. And she is heading up the redecoration of the lodges and common areas at one of the camps.

Some if not alot of this driving we do is going to have to stop. While we do get mileage for a lot of it. The problem is. We are drinking gas like it is water. With no end in sight....

Ouch you do alot of driving.. If i drove at the rate you did i would be fed up with gas prices too..

Thank God were not living at or anywhere near the edge. Honestly, I don't even notice the price difference. Some months gas bills have always been higher or lower 'cuz we drove more, sometimes less. It just is what it is. Kinda like cell phone bills. If fuel prices are hurting, one has two choices: make more money and/or quit pissing what limited funds one has on silly crap and personal vices and non-essentials/luxuries.

And yes, we have 3 nice, powerful and smooth V6s and have zero regrets. I rarely even pay any attention to what mileage we get. We just drive and live our lives. Vrooooooom Vroooooooom! :cool:

If I had to look to a few extra mpgs to feel better about myself, I'd kill myself.

But I don't, so I won't.:D


Your are like me, Honestly i could careless what fuel economy im getting, If im going to spend a lot on a car I'm going to get one that meets my needs, and those are:

Fun to drive, yet luxurious and smooth, and of course practicality.

I'm pretty satisfied with the fuel economy my V6 gets. I get a solid 32mpg on the highway, and 22 in the city.

I'm probably trading it for a 4-banger in the next month or so, errr, a turbocharged 4-banger anyway. :naughty:

I'm pretty satisfied with the fuel economy my V6 gets. I get a solid 32mpg on the highway, and 22 in the city.

I'm probably trading it for a 4-banger in the next month or so, errr, a turbocharged 4-banger anyway. :naughty:

Thats the way to go when choosing a 4..
It sounds like an Audi?

Am i right.?

Oh wait, Your going to get a Subaru WRX...

nice:naughty:

I'm only averaging 19.5 mpg out of my 2008 V6 Sedan Accord after 1 1/2 fills.. Am I doing something wrong here? It only has about 600 miles on it and I've been driving like a grandma staying under 70mph on the freeway w/ slow acceleration (50city / 50fwy?). Could I expect a big spike in the MPG department once its fully broken in? If so, when will that be? Or am I stuck with a inefficient Accord? :(

btw, it's a AT

Hold up, Those hatchback things are ugly. You want a fun car that has AWD, Hmm, get the Subaru Legacy 2.5GT best car for the money, or...

You can wait until the 2009 Audi A4 comes out, let me tell ya, that car is a crowd pleaser, it is beautiful its fast and its offerd in AWD..

For about the same money as the WRX how can you pass this beauty up

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll158/jacksonpop/audi3.jpg

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I'm only averaging 19.5 mpg out of my 2008 V6 Sedan Accord after 1 1/2 fills.. Am I doing something wrong here? It only has about 600 miles on it and I've been driving like a grandma staying under 70mph on the freeway w/ slow acceleration (50city / 50fwy?). Could I expect a big spike in the MPG department once its fully broken in? If so, when will that be? Or am I stuck with a inefficient Accord? :(

Whoa Whoa Whoa, Even with it not being fully broken in, if your driving like a complete grandma it should be averaging more than that, especially with the VCM..

Give it sometime to break in, if you are still getting around that than i would take it in..

And extra 20 bucks a month for an extra 78 hp is awesome and you cant complain about the V6's gas mileage compared to other cars and other V6 engines it gets very good mileage especially the 08..

Careful with what the finance people tell you. Sure $20 a month doesn't sound bad. But take into consideration that it's before finance charges :)

Careful with what the finance people tell you. Sure $20 a month doesn't sound bad. But take into consideration that it's before finance charges :)

I was talking about $20 more a month for gas not my monthly, It certainly wasn't $20 more a month for a V6, I could of gotten my same car but a 4 cyl for 40 bucks less a month..


Not worth it.


Hell i could of gotten a 328i equipped with all the same options as my 335i for $100 less a month,


Definitely wasn't worth it.

Whoa Whoa Whoa, Even with it not being fully broken in, if your driving like a complete grandma it should be averaging more than that, especially with the VCM..

Give it sometime to break in, if you are still getting around that than i would take it in..

Yip, my last fill (2nd fill) was after driving 314.4 miles. I filled it with 16.001 gal and that equals to 19.65mpg for the last fill. This is with very very VERY little use of AC. When I do use AC, it's usually set it to the lowest settings. For the most part, I just use the fan on the lowest setting or roll down the windows during city driving.

fyi, first fill: Dealer filled tank after purchasing car + about 6gal added later only resulted in around 330 miles. It seems like its improving I suppose.

I actually thought that this was the norm for V6 owners breaking in their car but it seems like everybody else is getting decent mpg from the get go. Ah well, hopefully the car will produce better results on the next fill.

I was talking about 20 more a month for gas not my monthly, It certainly wasn't 20 more for a V6, I could of gotten my same car but a 4 cyl for 40 bucks less a month..


Not worth it.


Ahh sorry, it's a bit late here so I must've misread your post :)

Yip, my last fill (2nd fill) was after driving 314.4 miles. I filled it with 16.001 gal and that equals to 19.65mpg for the last fill.

fyi, first fill: Dealer filled tank after purchasing car + about 6gal added later only resulted in around 330 miles. It seems like its improving I suppose.

I actually thought that this was the norm for V6 owners breaking in their car but it seems like everybody else is getting decent mpg from the get go. Ah well, hopefully the car will produce better results on the next fill.

Ahh sorry, it's a bit late here so I must've misread your post :)


Yea, I would just give it awhile it should improve overtime.. And I no what you mean, I'm super tired, I'm having a hard time typing, I have to go to work in two hours and if i go to sleep I'll never be able to get up, I need atleast 6 hours in a row of sleep :lmao: so I have to keep myself company with something (DA)

Yes, they do loosen up a bit & get better mpg after about 5K & the first oil change. :yes:

As far as driving like a "grandma"....watch it!!:naughty:

Be gentle with it during break in... it will be happier in the long run.

I've had as low as 13 mpg.... I was being much more lead footed than usual. I mostly hover just below 20...I can't seem to get above 20 in town. Too many lights!

It's not the car....it's driving style.

On my first tank I averaged 19.5 mpg and I was driving like the ultimate grandma. I only have 900 miles on the car and I'm on my 3rd fill up. Now I'm averaging 21.9 mpg with almost all city driving. So it is true that the car gets better mpg the more it's broken in. Once I hit 1000k I'm going to take it on the highway and have some fun! :naughty:

I knew when I bought the car that there were other vehicles that got better mpg, but I liked this car because of it's looks, technology, and it's HP. Other cars that I thought were comparable to the Accord in the aforementioned categories all ran on premium gas, were ugly, (Altima Coupe) or got horrible gas milage. I was close to getting an Infiniti G35 (thank God I didn't) and now I see car lots filled with them because people are dumping them. My Accord is more practical, better looking, and gets better mpg. It doesn't have the balls of a G35 but hey, we can't have it all. Like someone else on here said, If you want to have things you have to make sacrafices. If you're spending more money on gas, spend less money on something else.

I'm still trying to figure out why there are so many of you that are getting such crappy gas mileage. I'm on my 3rd fillup, and the worst mileage I've gotten is 22.8, and that was all urban, my overall average is running 24. I haven't even had it out on a "full tank highway run" yet. I'm not exactly an easy driver, but not a hot rod either, even though it's fun to really stand on it occasionally

:wave:

I'm quite happy with the 26.3 MPG I've averaged since picking up my 5AT V6 EX-L Coupe on 10/25/08 ...

Not to get too much OT, but krazy, considering the date above, I would love to hear how you time-traveled with your EX-L Coupe! What happens when your baby hits 88 mph? :lmao::lmao:

I'm still trying to figure out why there are so many of you that are getting such crappy gas mileage. I'm on my 3rd fillup, and the worst mileage I've gotten is 22.8, and that was all urban, my overall average is running 24. I haven't even had it out on a "full tank highway run" yet. I'm not exactly an easy driver, but not a hot rod either, even though it's fun to really stand on it occasionally

Who knows?:dunno: It could be the gas that some of us are using. The established mpg for this car is 21-28 anyway right?

Who knows?:dunno: It could be the gas that some of us are using. The established mpg for this car is 21-28 anyway right?

22-29 but hey, who's quibling over 1 number. :lmao:

I've been trying desperately to find a station around here that doesn't sell E10 to see if I could boost my numbers a little, but to no avail. :thumbsdow

22-29 but hey, who's quibling over 1 number. :lmao:

I've been trying desperately to find a station around here that doesn't sell E10 to see if I could boost my numbers a little, but to no avail. :thumbsdow

Same here, they all sell the crap now. I've heard that phillips 66 doesn't use E10, I may try them.

Not to turn this into an mpg thread but I just filled up today and averaged 27.7 on the last tank. The warmer temps and summer blend gas sure make a difference.:yes:

I chose my 4-cylinder for fuel savings, minimized emissions, lesser cost across the board, and a nostalgic appreciation for this type of engine. 4-cylinders have always been what I had, and, by and large, they've always delivered what I needed very well.

But especially these days, that which I appreciate most is the fortune of being able to commute to work, every single day, with this:

http://www.teamkarim.com/bikes/used/images/062206-14.jpg
(This is just an example bike, incidentally-- It's not an actual photo of mine)


Thus, I never usurp a car parking space (nor must I find one), my insurance costs are less (since I never drive to work), I use zero fuel, emit zero CO2, never have to negotiate irritating traffic, and I secure beneficial exercise that serves to help avoid disease, maintain strength, and improve intellective clarity. I bought my bike at a yard sale for $25 (a Miyata, at that; a bike I always wanted but could never afford, new), repaired/improved old components on it for about $30, and had to repair a flat I suffered about 2 months ago for $8. That totals to $63 over 6 years of commuting. :thumbsup:

I quite realize and respect many of us haven't the luxury of a feasible bicycle commute, but if you've the remote option, I can't fully convey how superb it is being able to NOT drive to work.

If it wasn't for the unfortunate fact that high fuel prices raise the cost of everything else, I'd largely be immune to the problem. Meaning the oil industry could, quoting a classic 80's movie, smooch my big 'ol white butt. In fact, screw it: In spite of the reality that I too suffer from high fuel costs, the oil industry CAN smooch my big 'ol white butt. I invite them to, openly. Pucker up, buttercups! http://www.c4rlh.com/emoticons/kissing.gif

I'm doing the best I can to minimize their relevance...

http://www.uoregon.edu/~bstarlin/images/bikevictory2.jpg

some of the diff is probably how much hwy/city you drive. I get just about 22 city which is exactly what the ratings suggest. In a normal tank I don't drive any highway at all. I rarely ever have to take a highway.

bless some of you who are not in college like me, 50 years old, have a real job, and have to drive on the highway to get there! my job is only 3 miles away so I probably still save more on gas than someone who's job is 7 or more miles away easily.

I only go through a tank in a month or less than a month. how about you guys?

Thats the way to go when choosing a 4..
It sounds like an Audi?

Am i right.?

I wish. I LOVE the way the A4 drives. It feels really balanced and well rounded. I'd be in one in a second if I didn't have a fear of audi reliability, as stellar as it is (and of course if I could afford it right now, ehh). My mother has one (a 2002 anyway) and it's a bitchin' little car. It's not the fastest thing in the world, and it doesn't handle the best ever, but it has plenty of punch with only 180hp, and it feels really balanced in corners. I'd steal it from her if it was a manual transmission. Of course her engine did sludge up and kill itself from lack of oil at 90k. I blame it on synthetic blends that the dealerships use and 10k oil change intervals.

Legacies are nice too, but I can't afford a GT model at the moment. They are a little on the heavy side, but super nice.

The wrx hatchbacks aren't my cup of tea, so I'm going for the sedan. It actually has a very roomy back seat. The hatchback did grow on me, but the sedan is still much better looking imo. When dressed up appropriately they look really nice, especially in person. I thought they were ugly at first, then I saw one in person at Beaver Creek when I was skiing (they had them on display) and I fell in love with the looks. Hopefully the mileage isn't too much worse than my Accord. I know I won't be getting 32mpg on the highway or anything, but hopefully I can get around 28-29, which seems likely given what has been reported thus far.

They are coming out with turbo-diesels in the next couple of years, those should be fun too. However, I really fear how much the cost of diesel will go up once they start becoming more popular. Greedy oil companies and their price gouging.

As far as I'm concerned gas-price wise, I think the hike in prices is a good thing. Anything that will force people out of their underutilized hummers, jeeps and suburbans is a good thing. As good as those cars are at hauling groceries, they are TOTALLY unnecessary. Even though I don't drive a prius, I still have the overwhelming urge to t-bone every hummer I see.

I only go through a tank in a month or less than a month. how about you guys?

A tank lasts about a week for me. Work is 50 miles round trip.

I wish. I LOVE the way the A4 drives. It feels really balanced and well rounded. I'd be in one in a second if I didn't have a fear of audi reliability, as stellar as it is (and of course if I could afford it right now, ehh). My mother has one (a 2002 anyway) and it's a bitchin' little car. It's not the fastest thing in the world, and it doesn't handle the best ever, but it has plenty of punch with only 180hp, and it feels really balanced in corners. I'd steal it from her if it was a manual transmission. Of course her engine did sludge up and kill itself from lack of oil at 90k. I blame it on synthetic blends that the dealerships use and 10k oil change intervals.

Legacies are nice too, but I can't afford a GT model at the moment. They are a little on the heavy side, but super nice.

The wrx hatchbacks aren't my cup of tea, so I'm going for the sedan. It actually has a very roomy back seat. The hatchback did grow on me, but the sedan is still much better looking imo. When dressed up appropriately they look really nice, especially in person. I thought they were ugly at first, then I saw one in person at Beaver Creek when I was skiing (they had them on display) and I fell in love with the looks. Hopefully the mileage isn't too much worse than my Accord. I know I won't be getting 32mpg on the highway or anything, but hopefully I can get around 28-29, which seems likely given what has been reported thus far.

They are coming out with turbo-diesels in the next couple of years, those should be fun too. However, I really fear how much the cost of diesel will go up once they start becoming more popular. Greedy oil companies and their price gouging.

As far as I'm concerned gas-price wise, I think the hike in prices is a good thing. Anything that will force people out of their underutilized hummers, jeeps and suburbans is a good thing. As good as those cars are at hauling groceries, they are TOTALLY unnecessary. Even though I don't drive a prius, I still have the overwhelming urge to t-bone every hummer I see.

Yea, I guess i need to see them in person, but the sedan is definitely a nice looking car compared to the hatch..

But I don't know now days, Audi has really stepped up there game a buddy of mine has an 06 A4 1.8T Quattro and all in all its been a good ride for him, and he really is a speed demon, He hasn't told me of any major problems with it as of now, but those little four bangers are very quick and fun to drive, if I were you I would re consider them when getting a new car, resale is very good on them too, They do offer extender warranty's as well :lmao: And there really isnt alot that can happen to a four banger..

Yea, I guess i need to see them in person, but the sedan is definitely a nice looking car compared to the hatch..

But I don't know now days, Audi has really stepped up there game a buddy of mine has an 06 A4 1.8T Quattro and all in all its been a good ride for him, and he really is a speed demon, He hasn't told me of any major problems with it as of now, but those little four bangers are very quick and fun to drive, if I were you I would re consider them when getting a new car, resale is very good on them too, They do offer extender warranty's as well :lmao: And there really isnt alot that can happen to a four banger..

I thought the 06 A4's got the 2.0T? Eh, if you are only going to keep the car for two or three years they are really nice and you won't really run into any problems. Past that it can get kind of hairy, and this is the same with most VW products. My family has 3 VW/Audis at the moment (2001 Passat v6 quattro, 2003? Taureg, 2002? A4 1.8t quattro), they have been good cars for the most part, but have definitely had their fair share of problems, but most of the problems have been minor and none of the cars have over 100k on them. However, they sure are all very nice to drive, including the Taureg. They have a balance and stability to them that none of the Japanese cars I've driven have had, maybe because of the AWD, I can't figure it out, and most of them do it while having a more comfortable ride. The interiors are super nice too, and the A4 and Passat get decent mileage. I can't really afford an A4 now, let alone the maintenance or parts prices. Maybe I'll get one if I'm ever super rich and don't intend on keeping my cars very long. Out of any audi, if price were no object, other than the new A5 which is simply sexy, I can't see myself ever wanting any audi other than the base level A4. I love that car.

Your are like me, Honestly i could careless what fuel economy im getting, If im going to spend a lot on a car I'm going to get one that meets my needs, and those are:

Fun to drive, yet luxurious and smooth, and of course practicality.

Thank God were not living at or anywhere near the edge. Honestly, I don't even notice the price difference. Some months gas bills have always been higher or lower 'cuz we drove more, sometimes less. It just is what it is. Kinda like cell phone bills. If fuel prices are hurting, one has two choices: make more money and/or quit pissing what limited funds one has on silly crap and personal vices and non-essentials/luxuries.

And yes, we have 3 nice, powerful and smooth V6s and have zero regrets. I rarely even pay any attention to what mileage we get. We just drive and live our lives. Vrooooooom Vroooooooom! :cool:

If I had to look to a few extra mpgs to feel better about myself, I'd kill myself.

But I don't, so I won't.:D
nice posts :thmsup:

With that $450 I save a year.......I can use it to hit Red Lobster 15-20 times. God bless the 4-banga!!!!

I thought the 06 A4's got the 2.0T? Eh, if you are only going to keep the car for two or three years they are really nice and you won't really run into any problems. Past that it can get kind of hairy, and this is the same with most VW products. My family has 3 VW/Audis at the moment (2001 Passat v6 quattro, 2003? Taureg, 2002? A4 1.8t quattro), they have been good cars for the most part, but have definitely had their fair share of problems, but most of the problems have been minor and none of the cars have over 100k on them. However, they sure are all very nice to drive, including the Taureg. They have a balance and stability to them that none of the Japanese cars I've driven have had, maybe because of the AWD, I can't figure it out, and most of them do it while having a more comfortable ride. The interiors are super nice too, and the A4 and Passat get decent mileage. I can't really afford an A4 now, let alone the maintenance or parts prices. Maybe I'll get one if I'm ever super rich and don't intend on keeping my cars very long. Out of any audi, if price were no object, other than the new A5 which is simply sexy, I can't see myself ever wanting any audi other than the base level A4. I love that car.

It must be an 05 then, its the the previous body before they changed the back, But its a 1.8T Quattro and he hasn't had anything major happen yet as far as I know. But I agree, the A5 is just gorgeous, And they offer the Bang & Olufsen sound system I would buy that car just for that honestly, I haven't seen any on the road yet, Its pretty expensive for just an A5.

Coming soon... :paranoid:

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Coming soon... :paranoid:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/trock333/TheNew5D.gif

:eek: That's scary, but somehow, I believe it's very possible.

Wow. We complain about the one thing (high energy prices) that will bring about what so many of us advocate:

-Buying and producing food locally (transportation cost)
-Reduce outsourcing and increase domestic production (transportation cost)
-Increased population density (less sprawl)
-More public transportation
-Research for alternatives (profit motive)
-Exploration for more oil reserves (profit motive)
-If tyrants really ARE running out of oil, their free ride will be ending
-Smaller, more fuel efficient cars
-Reducing carbon dioxide (gosh, I remember when carbon monoxide and nitrogen dioxides were considered 'pollutants'. We have it pretty good!)

As a die-hard capitalist who likes most of the ideas presented above I welcome the higher prices and the pain it inflicts.

If we let the marketplace decide, the transition away from fossil fuels will be smooth. If we demand that government step in because we want change without pain we'll be in for decades of unintended consequences.

By the way, to those fretting over $450/yr, how does that compare to your car payment? Insurance? Fuel is only one cost of car ownership.

Wow. We complain about the one thing (high energy prices) that will bring about what so many of us advocate:

-Buying and producing food locally (transportation cost)
-Reduce outsourcing and increase domestic production (transportation cost)
-Increased population density (less sprawl)
-More public transportation
-Research for alternatives (profit motive)
-Exploration for more oil reserves (profit motive)
-If tyrants really ARE running out of oil, their free ride will be ending
-Smaller, more fuel efficient cars
-Reducing carbon dioxide (gosh, I remember when carbon monoxide and nitrogen dioxides were considered 'pollutants'. We have it pretty good!)

As a die-hard capitalist who likes most of the ideas presented above I welcome the higher prices and the pain it inflicts.

If we let the marketplace decide, the transition away from fossil fuels will be smooth. If we demand that government step in because we want change without pain we'll be in for decades of unintended consequences.

By the way, to those fretting over $450/yr, how does that compare to your car payment? Insurance? Fuel is only one cost of car ownership.

:yes::thmsup::thmsup::yes:

Both petrol and diesel cost £5 + per UK gallon now.. that's about 9$ US gallon ??

The good news is, most 4x4's and awd are being sold off and replaced by more eco friendly vehicles.. :) The only people who need vehicles like that are farmers and emergency services.. The rest were just wasting fuel.. :yes:
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After putting in four tankfull of premium...My 2007 Accord with the 4 in it has gone from 32 mpg to as high as 39 mgh with an average of 37 mpg. I will keep using mid and premuim in it...

After putting in four tankfull of premium...My 2007 Accord with the 4 in it has gone from 32 mpg to as high as 39 mgh with an average of 37 mpg. I will keep using mid and premuim in it...

The grade of fuel is not going to make that dramatic a difference. It is more likely the change from winter blend gas to summer blend gas combined with the warmer temps.

Well not from what I have read...

Not only is the I4 cheaper in the fuel department, but it's also cheaper to maintain. For example, the OCI (oil change interval) is every 10k miles, the first ATF/ coolant service is at 100k (is this same on V6?), and there' no timing belt service due around 100k miles. You could also find other benefits like brake wear (V6 is heavier) and many folks here have complained about their accords eating brakes (mine has 30k miles and the front/rear breaks still have 70% + remaining).

I could save approx $1k per year by getting a Yaris and could basically swap my ride for one, but then I'd have to drive the Yaris every day (I actually like the 2dr when it's "pimped."

But for now, my I4 accord is ok.

Not only is the I4 cheaper in the fuel department, but it's also cheaper to maintain. For example, the OCI (oil change interval) is every 10k miles, the first ATF/ coolant service is at 100k (is this same on V6?), and there' no timing belt service due around 100k miles. You could also find other benefits like brake wear (V6 is heavier) and many folks here have complained about their accords eating brakes (mine has 30k miles and the front/rear breaks still have 70% + remaining).

I could save approx $1k per year by getting a Yaris and could basically swap my ride for one, but then I'd have to drive the Yaris every day (I actually like the 2dr when it's "pimped."

But for now, my I4 accord is ok.

God. Why would you buy the Toyota Echo's replacement when you can have a little fun and drive a Fit!:dunno:

God. Why would you buy the Toyota Echo's replacement when you can have a little fun and drive a Fit!:dunno:

Because the Yaris Coupe looks better (on the outside.. I admit the dash is wierd), gets better gas mileage, and costs a lot less (you can get a base one (with a/c) for $9999. Even the well-equipped Yaris S with power package is still approx $3k cheaper than the fit.

Since my accord is barely worth $15k it would be a struggle to even break-even with the Yaris purchase if you consider taxes and the mods I consider a necessity (wheels & tires and tint).

Well not from what I have read...

The issue of premium vs. regular gas and the pros and cons of each have been kicked around here on this forum and many others. The long story short is...if your car calls for regular, use regular, if it calls for premium, use premium. If your car calls for regular and you use premium, you are basically throwing your money away. I just googled the question and the first three pages all said the same thing...This really is basic chemistry and here is a snap shot that sums them all up...




Is premium gas really worth $208.00 more per year? Do you get better mileage or fuel economy with premium? Does premium gas make your car run better?

The cost difference between regular gas and premium is generally about twenty cents per gallon. That means filling up a 20 gallon tank will cost $4.00 more if you fill with premium instead of regular. If you fill your car once a week the premium will cost you $208.00 more than regular over the course of a year.

Let’s address the fuel economy question first. The simple answer is no, premium gas does not increase fuel economy at all.

The octane rating is a measurement of the proportion of isooctane to heptane in fuel. In non technical terms it is a rating that grades how much energy it takes to ignite that fuel. The rating has nothing to do with how much energy the gas puts out.It has absolutely nothing to do with fuel economy.

Does premium gas make your car run better? Once again the simple answer is no, there is no increase in a cars performance with premium gas.

That said, I must throw in this one caveat, your car might perform with slightly more horsepower with premium than with regular but you would be hard pressed to notice the difference. Premium just allows car makers an extra advertising ploy.

By designing and tuning engines to take advantage of premium’s anti-knock properties, it allows automakers to market their cars with a few more horsepower. Auto engineers generally agree that if you use regular in a premium engine, the power loss is so slight, that it is very hard to detect.

What if your car manufacturer recommends that you use premium? In this case burning regular instead of premium won’t void the warranty, nor damage the engine, most automakers say.

Next time you go to fill up try regular instead of premium. You will immediately save $4.00. See how your car performs with the regular. If it runs fine and you don’t hear any knocking continue to use regular. You could save $200.00 per year!

The issue of premium vs. regular gas and the pros and cons of each have been kicked around here on this forum and many others. The long story short is...if your car calls for regular, use regular, if it calls for premium, use premium. If your car calls for regular and you use premium, you are basically throwing your money away. I just googled the question and the first three pages all said the same thing...This really is basic chemistry and here is a snap shot that sums them all up...
See how your car performs with the regular. If it runs fine and you don’t hear any knocking continue to use regular. You could save $200.00 per year!

Well...that answers every question that I had about the topic. :thmsup:Nice job Brickman.

Well...that answers every question that I had about the topic. :thmsup:Nice job Brickman.Except that... it doesn't. Much of that information is recycled, generic advice. The fact is, many modern engines adjust timing on the fly, based on feedback from the engine management system and knock sensors. It is quite possible that such an engine could get better mpg under certain conditions with premium than regular. My Saab LPT (light pressure turbo) calls for regular - gets better mpg on premium. While not a turbo, it is also possible that the Honda I-4, being fairly advanced, with VTEC, etc, could fall in the same category where it might in fact benefit from higher octane. Also keep in mind that a 20 cent difference on $2 gas is 10%, but 20 cents on $4 gas is only 5% now. Might be worth trying - if it gave 1-2 mpg more it would pay for itself.

and it does work.....:banana:

Except that... it doesn't. Much of that information is recycled, generic advice. The fact is, many modern engines adjust timing on the fly, based on feedback from the engine management system and knock sensors. It is quite possible that such an engine could get better mpg under certain conditions with premium than regular. My Saab LPT (light pressure turbo) calls for regular - gets better mpg on premium. While not a turbo, it is also possible that the Honda I-4, being fairly advanced, with VTEC, etc, could fall in the same category where it might in fact benefit from higher octane. Also keep in mind that a 20 cent difference on $2 gas is 10%, but 20 cents on $4 gas is only 5% now. Might be worth trying - if it gave 1-2 mpg more it would pay for itself.

Well, There is only one way to know for sure. Fill up with a tank premium, drive the same, and evaluate. I'm willing to splurge on one tank of premium to put the theory to the test.

Along with rising gas prices comes lack of spending elsewhere from the public. Instead of staying at the Westin, many now choose to stay at Days Inn. I was on vacation all of this week and did NOTHING. I am in a recession mode, you spend less so do I.

You need to give it at least two tankfulls....There is a local Auto Show out of Cincy..OH and he was the one that challeged his listeners to try it and see what happens and I did along with a bunch others and I would say that over 80 percent had an improvement in MPG.....What I do is fill up with premium and when I get to a half tank I fill up with mid grade and then again with premium at a half tank....all I can say is that it woks for me....getting 36 to 39 MPG on the highway in a full size Accord is great.....

Except that... it doesn't. Much of that information is recycled, generic advice. The fact is, many modern engines adjust timing on the fly, based on feedback from the engine management system and knock sensors. It is quite possible that such an engine could get better mpg under certain conditions with premium than regular. My Saab LPT (light pressure turbo) calls for regular - gets better mpg on premium. While not a turbo, it is also possible that the Honda I-4, being fairly advanced, with VTEC, etc, could fall in the same category where it might in fact benefit from higher octane. Also keep in mind that a 20 cent difference on $2 gas is 10%, but 20 cents on $4 gas is only 5% now. Might be worth trying - if it gave 1-2 mpg more it would pay for itself.

Say what you want. I could find no credible sources that claim premium gas has the general effect of increasing mpg.

It is really ironic that this whole thread started out with the OP cheering his 4cyl purchase and the money he is saving on gas. My input was that the 6cyl was not a real step back and now we have someone who is putting super in his 4cyl. in order to increase mpg....I think we have come full circle here.

Say what you want. I could find no credible sources that claim premium gas has the general effect of increasing mpg.

It does in our Taurus, but not in the Honda's. :yes:

did anyone mention you save $3,000 right off the bat on the I4? :banana:

The good news is, most 4x4's and awd are being sold off and replaced by more eco friendly vehicles.. :) The only people who need vehicles like that are farmers and emergency services.. The rest were just wasting fuel.. :yes:
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Unfortunately, state-side, we have suburban mothers driving sons/daughters to school in Hummers.

mike.

Unfortunately, state-side, we have suburban mothers driving sons/daughters to school in Hummers.

mike.

As gas prices continue to go up even those types will feel the pinch at some point :lmao:

did anyone mention you save $3,000 right off the bat on the I4? :banana:

you mean 5k as my 2.4L LX was little over 20k and V6 was 25k.

Well, There is only one way to know for sure. Fill up with a tank premium, drive the same, and evaluate. I'm willing to splurge on one tank of premium to put the theory to the test.

In my experience one (or several tanks) will not tell you "for sure." I track my mpg (most of the time) and from tank to tank I will see a difference of +/- 0.5-2.0 mpg. That's using the same gas station, same driver and mostly same mix of city/hwy.

In my experience one (or several tanks) will not tell you "for sure." I track my mpg (most of the time) and from tank to tank I will see a difference of +/- 0.5-2.0 mpg. That's using the same gas station, same driver and mostly same mix of city/hwy.

We just can't win can we? Oh well, maybe I'll get a hybrid for my next car.

We just can't win can we? Oh well, maybe I'll get a hybrid for my next car.

This is an I-4 thread.............:lmao::lmao:

We just can't win can we? Oh well, maybe I'll get a hybrid for my next car.

If you compare the extra cost of a hybrid car to the potential savings on gas due to a better mpg, the time it will take you to make your money back is usually not worth the initial investment. Typical buy back time will exceed most peoples ownership of the hybrid vehicle.

If you compare the extra cost of a hybrid car to the potential savings on gas due to a better mpg, the time it will take you to make your money back is usually not worth the initial investment. Typical buy back time will exceed most peoples ownership of the hybrid vehicle.

Ok seriously...you guys are gonna make me start crying:boohoo: Fine how bout this, I'll trade in my v6 and get an I-4 :D
I submit to the peer pressure

Ok seriously...you guys are gonna make me start crying:boohoo: Fine how bout this, I'll trade in my v6 and get an I-4 :D
I submit to the peer pressure

Don't get me wrong here...I personally think you should keep the V-6. I have maintained all along that I am willing to deal with what I believe to be an acceptable and minimal additional cost of ownership associated with the V-6....but that is personal preference.

Ok seriously...you guys are gonna make me start crying:boohoo: Fine how bout this, I'll trade in my v6 and get an I-4 :D
I submit to the peer pressure
no, no, you need to get a Prius and go "green" at only 21k :lmao:

QUOTE=Edaccord08;231741]no, no, you need to get a Prius and go "green" at only 21k :lmao:[/QUOTE]

A prius? Never that, my friend.

Some guy in the alley just told me that adding a gallon of distilled water to your gas tank improves mpg by up to 20 miles! I'm gonna go try it right now. :dude:

Don't get me wrong here...I personally think you should keep the V-6. I have maintained all along that I am willing to deal with what I believe to be an acceptable and minimal additional cost of ownership associated with the V-6....but that is personal preference.

Believe me, I'm no fool. I love my car. Besides at this point I'd end up upside down in the deal after all the work i've done with my v6. As I've said before, I knew that buying a V6 would be more costly at the pump, but I was fine with it. Anyone getting a V6 or larger engine should know better, or they have no business buying a car. I feel bad for my cousin though. She drives a hummer and gets like 12mpg, if that at all. :thumbsdow

Dont forget that generally speaking a V6 has a better shot of lasting 300k-500k than a I4 if you bought your car to hold on for 20 years. I have said many times seeing how bad investments cars are that my 06 Accord better last that long.

Dont forget that generally speaking a V6 has a better shot of lasting 300k-500k than a I4 if you bought your car to hold on for 20 years. I have said many times seeing how bad investments cars are that my 06 Accord better last that long.

What data do you have that says that? Most cars I see that are 15 years plus are 4-cylinder. Any stats to prove your theory?? :lmao:

Don't get me wrong here...I personally think you should keep the V-6. I have maintained all along that I am willing to deal with what I believe to be an acceptable and minimal additional cost of ownership associated with the V-6....but that is personal preference.

Well, minimal cost of ownership includes paying $3000 more upfront and losing mpg over the I-4, so the payback would be similar to a hybrid's payback.........:D

$3.50 a gallon? It's $3.89 in So. Santa Clara Valley area. I have a 2001 F23A4, and I get 27-29 MPG, depending on which root I take, and how much in town driving I do. I drive 100 miles a day. If I was considering a Hybrid, I'd likely pick a Civic or maybe a Camry. Or even a Accord Hybrid.

i don't feel that 4 cyl would save that much money for me...However, here's where I stand now - if there is a way to save 100$ or more monthly on gas by changing a car I will consider it. By my calculations that will only happen if the price per liter (I live in Canada) reaches 1.50 and the replacement car is a Prius. Right now the price is howering around 1.22 in Toronto which makes it about 86$ a month difference ... so not yet.

Well, minimal cost of ownership includes paying $3000 more upfront and losing mpg over the I-4, so the payback would be similar to a hybrid's payback.........:D

I paid slightly over $20k for my car. The I-4 at the time was not $3k less but look...this is getting ridiculous...my whole point from the very beginning was if $3.50/gallon gas is causing you real financial trouble....and actually more now as the price has gone up to around $3.70 here...you probably shouldn't be driving ANY Accord because to purchase the car itself is too rich for your blood....probably should have been a Civic....and conversely, if you can afford to put gas in an I-4 Accord, you likewise can afford to put gas in a V-6 Accord as the additional cost of that gas is minimal.

Or even a Accord Hybrid.

It would have to be a used one of those as they are not produced any more.

bottom line the US is spoiled......every other country (and I travel alot) are concerned about gas mileage....even if its 50 cents a gallon savings. But, yes we are in the US so ......whatever. I could care less what anyone spends.....hell, my wife drives a HOE out of necessity.......we cant get 7 people in any Honda. I was just stating my pleasure in saving some money and still having the ability to drive an Accord :banana::banana::banana:

I paid slightly over $20k for my car. The I-4 at the time was not $3k less but look...this is getting ridiculous...my whole point from the very beginning was if $3.50/gallon gas is causing you real financial trouble....and actually more now as the price has gone up to around $3.70 here...you probably shouldn't be driving ANY Accord because to purchase the car itself is too rich for your blood....probably should have been a Civic....and conversely, if you can afford to put gas in an I-4 Accord, you likewise can afford to put gas in a V-6 Accord as the additional cost of that gas is minimal.

I thought this was an I-4 thread?? Why don't you go spread sunshine on the thread regarding V-6??:dunno::dunno:

You're not making an good arguments on here. Those of us that own them know WHY we bought an I-4. I also drove a V-6, and the dealer wanted $2000 more for it used. The insurance is more (I checked), even for me, someone who has not had a speeding ticket for 19 years and an accident for 25.

You guys can rationalize all you want, you're not fooling me..........:wave:

I thought this was an I-4 thread?? Why don't you go spread sunshine on the thread regarding V-6??:dunno::dunno:

You're not making an good arguments on here. Those of us that own them know WHY we bought an I-4. I also drove a V-6, and the dealer wanted $2000 more for it used. The insurance is more (I checked), even for me, someone who has not had a speeding ticket for 19 years and an accident for 25.

You guys can rationalize all you want, you're not fooling me..........:wave:

Well you're the one who called us out! "Where are all the V6 Auto people?" Remember? You got what you asked for and now you're getting irritated?:lmao:

Ok enough already! Lets all just be best friends :grouphug:

Well you're the one who called us out! "Where are all the V6 Auto people?" Remember? You got what you asked for and now you're getting irritated?:lmao:

Ok enough already! Lets all just be best friends :grouphug:

Hey, we are all friends on here. I was a little put off by your suggestion that the folks that buy I-4's only do it because they can't AFFORD a V-6.............:dunno:

I got rid of my M3 4 years ago, maybe I should have kept it......the $50 oil changes and $300 tires were a "lot of fun"............:paranoid:

I was a little put off by your suggestion that the folks that buy I-4's only do it because they can't AFFORD a V-6

I never said that...please re-read the post and please understand that the word "you" as used in my post meant "anyone" who felt $3.50/gallon gas was financially draining to them.

And darkshark..thanks for pointing this out before I could.....

Originally Posted by Dark Shark
Well you're the one who called us out! "Where are all the V6 Auto people?" Remember? You got what you asked for and now you're getting irritated?

Hey, we are all friends on here. I was a little put off by your suggestion that the folks that buy I-4's only do it because they can't AFFORD a V-6.............:dunno:

I got rid of my M3 4 years ago, maybe I should have kept it......the $50 oil changes and $300 tires were a "lot of fun"............:paranoid:

I never said that. You've got the wrong guy, check the thread. But anyway, the inflation of gas is costing eveyone, one way or another whether they realize it or not. This topic is very subjective. The tank capacity is the same on both cars, and just because you drive an I-4 doesn't mean that you save more money on gas than I do. I only drive 3 miles to work so I still have most I-4 drivers beat. The short proximity to work made my decision to buy the V6 even easier. I don't regret buying the V6, and I'm sure people who bought the I4 don't regret their decision either. I'm just happy to have a reliable car that also looks good and is fun to drive. Geez...I can remember when I could fill up a tank for $10.00, spent $60.00 the other day to fill up.

Geez...I can remember when I could fill up a tank for $10.00, spent $60.00 the other day to fill up.


No kidding, I was thinking about that the other day........I remember not too long ago :paranoid:........10yrs or so? Gas was right around $1.00-$1.25 a gallon.

No kidding, I was thinking about that the other day........I remember not too long ago :paranoid:........10yrs or so? Gas was right around $1.00-$1.25 a gallon.

Around where I live, 6 years ago gas was $1.35 a gallon.

No kidding, I was thinking about that the other day........I remember not too long ago :paranoid:........10yrs or so? Gas was right around $1.00-$1.25 a gallon.

I know right? I can remember in some places I could get regular for .99
:note:Glory Days:note: :)

When I moved to TX in 1994....gas was 0.79 cents a gallon!


We are dating ourselves :(

When I moved to TX in 1994....gas was 0.79 cents a gallon!


We are dating ourselves :(


Uhhggggghhhhhh..........now Im depressed. :bawling:

I got rid of my M3 4 years ago, maybe I should have kept it......the $50 oil changes and $300 tires were a "lot of fun"............:paranoid:

You're really complaining about a BMW M3 being high-maintinence?:paranoid:

You shouldn't own an M3 if you are turned off by the monetary expense. That car was not designed for people worried about how much an oil change costs. Look at the MSRP.

on a side note about historical gas prices....

I have the receipt from the day i graduated high school in in the spring of 2000.... .97 cents a gallon.... sheesh, I miss those high school days, and not just because of all that a$$/tail to be had. LMAO

You're really complaining about a BMW M3 being high-maintinence?:paranoid:

You shouldn't own an M3 if you are turned off by the monetary expense. That car was not designed for people worried about how much an oil change costs. Look at the MSRP.

and if you talk about the true M3's ... e30 chassis ... owners/enthusiast will be doing their own oil changes :thmsup: and not trusting a former bmw mech or bmw stealer with their babies. :D

......every other country (and I travel alot) are concerned about gas mileage....

aside from the Middle East and Venezuela

aside from the Middle East and Venezuela

Where gas ranges from around $0.20/gallon to about $0.80/gallon.

Where gas ranges from around $0.20/gallon to about $0.80/gallon.

I was in Saudi last summer and I believe their gas was somewhere around $0.17 a gallon. I was :jawdrop:

Well, I'm not saying how much gas was when I started driving!:paranoid:

It has topped 4 bucks here now.:thumbsdow I'm sure glad I don't use much!:) I'm thinking it's going to be close to 5 dollars per gallon on our way to TX in July.

Where I live gas costs $4.20 per gallon, and I still wish I would have bought a V6 instead of my I4. :wave:

You're really complaining about a BMW M3 being high-maintinence?:paranoid:

You shouldn't own an M3 if you are turned off by the monetary expense. That car was not designed for people worried about how much an oil change costs. Look at the MSRP.

I didn't buy a new one, I got it from a friend who was having financial problems. Fun car, but not my cup of tea. I am not the quintessential BMW owner...........:lmao::lmao:

Where I live gas costs $4.20 per gallon, and I still wish I would have bought a V6 instead of my I4. :wave:


Now that's the spirit!!:lmao:

Now that's the spirit!!:lmao:

I originally wanted a V6, but when I bought it I got a very good rebate on the last remaining 2006 I4. The V6 would have had to be a 2007 instead of a 2006, and the difference was about $ 6,000 for the new model year and the V6 engine option, so I reluctantly took the I4. And I didn't buy the Accord for its mileage anyway. If I wanted higher mileage I would have bought a Honda Fit.

If I wanted higher mileage I would have bought a Honda Fit.


I see, but some of us wanted the mileage and more space in the interior. The fit is a bit tiny. :thmsup:

I originally wanted a V6, but when I bought it I got a very good rebate on the last remaining 2006 I4. The V6 would have had to be a 2007 instead of a 2006, and the difference was about $ 6,000 for the new model year and the V6 engine option, so I reluctantly took the I4. And I didn't buy the Accord for its mileage anyway. If I wanted higher mileage I would have bought a Honda Fit.

$6,000 is a huge incentive!

When I bought mine I wanted a V-6 sedan. Then I found out that I had to buy a coupe (just like now) to get a stick shift......bummer. An automatic just doesn't cut it for me so I ended up with the 2.4l. I'm certainly happy with it but if I have a chance to buy more muscle under the hood I'm going for it:naughty:......IF it has a five or six speed, is well built, and around $26K. It's a shame that nothing fills the bill :lmao:

Princess I'll say how much gas was when I grew up. The other day I got 9 gallons of fuel for $30. In 1965 9 gallons in the Mustang was $2.25 and they pumped it, checked the tires, checked the oil, and cleaned the windshield!!!! Oh.....it was 100 octane too.

Lotsa change to reflect on when one has been around a while folks!

I miss the days when 92 was LOW octane! I used to fill up my little Toyota Corona with the change I'd keep from the errands I did for my parents. I literally paid with coins!

And never pumped my own gas (still don't, 'cuz of my gas fairy). I went to full service & the oil was checked, the windows washed & if a low tire was noticed, it would be aired up right there!

*sigh* the good ol' days......

Well I have to say that I believe that there is something to this Ethanol thing. The first three tanks of gas I was using the ethanol blend. During that period of time I was averaging 19-21 mpg. This past weekend I went to a station pumping ethanol free gas, and I already can see the difference. Today doing the same kind of driving I was averaging 24-26 mpg. I know that nay-sayers will claim that it's the "summer blend" gas, but I really don't think so. We're only talking about a one week time span between fill ups, and the needle on the fuel tank isn't moving as quickly either. As trivial as it might seem, this kinda made my day. I was getting jealous of all the members on here boasting about their lofty mpgs. :biggrin:

I have the I4 and my third tank of gas lasted 260 miles. All city driving but holy crap that seems low.

my I4 usually lasts about 400 miles depending how much city driving I do. my commute is 120 miles round trip with maybe 10 city miles.

I have the I4 and my third tank of gas lasted 260 miles. All city driving but holy crap that seems low.

hmmm well if you take it all the way to E on mine city driving it's about 390 miles or so meaning its 430+ if i ran out the last two gallons. i know i shouldn't get it that low but anyway you should be hitting at least 370-390 when you're e light comes on so 1/3 tank left at 260 sounds like it might be right...

though i drive a stick. when you fill up divide the miles you went by the amount of gallons you pumped into your car and make sure you are getting at least 22mpg.

18.5 * 22 mpg means you should be able to get 407 city miles out of a tank but i probably get a little more because i get around 23.5 mpg minimum in a lot of situations because i do a little tiny bit of highway at least.

hwy i can achieve around 590 miles with my tank (18.5 gallons x 32 mpg). i've waited until like 550 miles or so before filling up before just to see if i can get it up there but i know i shouldn't run the tank so dry.

I have the I4 and my third tank of gas lasted 260 miles. All city driving but holy crap that seems low.

Make sure that you work the math. You can't just eyeball your mpg! Make sure you reset the trip odometer and fill up every time and then divide out the miles traveled by the gallons pumped. After three times at the same station, preferably the same pump, you should have an accurate mpg for your car.

i just traded my 08 in for a 07 accord hybrid with 9000 miles and I get 28 city and 38 highway. I got a sweet deal on it too. 21,500 OTD. best thing I ever done.


mike

I have to admit in the wake of $3.50 a gallon gas my driving style has changed dramatically. I have become much less of a lead foot, taking off easy from red lights and always giving gas smoothly. No more runs to redline just for fun anymore. I'm also driving much slower on the freeway, from a normal 80 mph down to about 65 mph. I also maintain the proper tire pressure, I'm pretty anal about it actually. With all of those changes I have noticed much better gas mileage. It's not the most fun way to drive my car, but these prices are ridiculous and they're killing me. I'm not driving anywhere I don't have to anymore. No more joy riding, it's all about going to work, and grocery shopping.

When is the madness going to end? $3.50 a gallon too damn much, way too much. I remember when gas went up to $2.00 a gallon and that pissed me off. $3.50 is insane, and it's going to bankrupt the country. Soon there is going to have to be some sort of government intervention to bring these prices down to reality. I'm generally not a proponent of government intervention and price ceilings, but if we ever needed it, we need it now for the sake of the country. The record profits these gas companies keep making year after year are going to have to end. It's disgusting these companies are making the profits they do while crippling the economy, and no one is doing anything about it. The first course of duty for our new President is going to be gas prices and getting them back down, quickly!

Any bets on 6 bucks by Xmas???:paranoid:

There is a not a lot of incentives for the government to step in too quickly, they get a cut of the gas sales.......

As for $6/gallon, we are at $1.25 per litre now here, which is $4.73/gallon, places like Vancouver and Montreal are around $5.30/gallon already, analysits are predicting $1.50/litre by summer time, which somewhere $5.7/gallon, so $6/gallon by Christmas isn't too far fetched.

I'm going easy on the commute as well, getting around 27-28 MPG in the last few tanks, good thing the V6 has torque.

Is.it.more.fuel.efficient.to.fill.your.tank.up.all .the.way.or.to.fill.up.a.little.at.a.time...I've.b een.filling.up.$6-$10.until.I.hit.the.gas.light.then.repeat.....rece ntly.I.managed.29.00065.MPG's.ALL.CITY.miles...... ..(Space.bar.broke)

2003
4.Door
I-4
57k.Miles

I'm with a few of the others who said these high gas prices are actually a good thing for our country (U.S.). People and Big Business need to be FORCED to make a change, and hitting them in the wallet is the only way to make that happen 99.9% of the time unfortunately. Oil is a non-renewable resource, and the lack of respect for it and sheer dependence on it in our lifetime is just abysmal.

My '94 Accord EX 4 cyl has a lot wrong with her right now, but I am still able to squeeze 24 mpg out of 'er in mostly city driving. I have been car shopping for some time now, but I still don't know what the heck I am going to buy. I LOVE driving my g/f's TSX and have my eye on an '09, but the mpg she has been getting in that thing scares me (and on premium no less) and if her car doesn't shape up soon (it is still fairly new and breaking in), I don't want to be in the same boat. I would LOVE to get a new or slightly used TL and can easily afford one, but we're back to the same issue then. An '06-'07 Accord coupe/sedan is in the mix, but as more time passes, I find myself kind of bored with them anymore and don't think I would be that excited driving one day in/day out. A V6 would probably make it a little more fun and enjoyable for me, but with the way these prices are going...yes I can afford it, but I am all about personal responsibility and accountability when it comes to our impact on the planet and supporting this nonsense, so...

So yeah, I'll figure something out...someday LOL

Is.it.more.fuel.efficient.to.fill.your.tank.up.all .the.way.or.to.fill.up.a.little.at.a.time...I've.b een.filling.up.$6-$10.until.I.hit.the.gas.light.then.repeat.....rece ntly.I.managed.29.00065.MPG's.ALL.CITY.miles...... ..(Space.bar.broke)

2003
4.Door
I-4
57k.Miles

It cost me about $48~50 to fill up my car...assuming you are only filling up around $10...it means when I make 1 stop at the gas station, you have already made 5 to 6 stops already...I think the amount of energy/gas wasted simply to go to the gas station multiple times makes it less efficient than just filling the tank up completely in one trip...further, isn't it a waste of time???

There is a not a lot of incentives for the government to step in too quickly, they get a cut of the gas sales.......

As for $6/gallon, we are at $1.25 per litre now here, which is $4.73/gallon, places like Vancouver and Montreal are around $5.30/gallon already, analysits are predicting $1.50/litre by summer time, which somewhere $5.7/gallon, so $6/gallon by Christmas isn't too far fetched.

I'm going easy on the commute as well, getting around 27-28 MPG in the last few tanks, good thing the V6 has torque.

I wouldn't want the government to cut the gas taxes for the simple fact that the oil companies will just simply jack the prices up to where it was before. What irks me most I guess is the fact that much of these taxes collected end up in general revenue instead of a special fund to fix the roads. Here in Saskatchewan, many of the secondary highways are crumbling, while our neighbours to the south (namely Montana and North Dakota), highways that see less traffic than my back alley are in excellent condition. Furthermore, the highway from Regina to the US border has so much traffic, I have no idea why it isn't twinned. Maybe the gas tax can help fund the start of such a project.

I envy our American friends who are paying substantially less for a litre of gas. I was just browsing the prices in Minneapolis/St. Paul and their prices works out to 98 cents a litre. (And you guys think you have it bad?? Come up here for a real shocker). I think I will wait until I cross the border in a few weeks to fill up instead of arriving on a full tank.

And for the record, my last tank of gas in my 08 yielded 606 kilometres travelled with an average of 10.9 L per 100 kms. (according to the Trip Computer) which works out to approx. 25.9 MPG using Shell 87 octane. Trip consisted of a mix of highway (40%) and city (60%). Not too bad in my opinion :thmsup:

Hey Jack
Noticed this in your sig
Accord Coupe EX-L V6-non navi 0-60 in 7.0sec

2007 BMW 335i ... Oh yes, Shes fast! 0-60 in 4.4sec with a heavy foot.

Would you care to explain how you arrived at 4.4 secs 0-60 for the 335?
Published reports average 4.9 sec. The 4.9 time seems realistic as my 95 Corvette 6MT equals the 0-60 time in the "real world". The hp/weight of vehicle does not support a 4.4 sec time. And BTW, how did you accurately measure 4.4 sec time?

I loved my v6 Accord, but if I were shopping now, I would look long and hard at the I4

hey Jackster aka Jackpop
Missed your response to the trumped up 4.4 sec 0-60 you are posting for the 335I
Care to re expain?
S

Downhill on a steep grade?

I drive 60 miles round trip to work here in Phoenix. The freeway congestion makes my drive equal to about 50/50 highway - city. Been averaging a little above 32 mpg.

Highest tank 34.5, lowest 30. Last fill was 32.5 with the a/c running on the way home everyday as the daytime temp warms here. I don't put my foot into it too often, but I don't drive that gently either.

For my needs the I4 is a great little engine and I am very happy with the mpg.
Now at 10,000 miles and hoping the mileage might improve a little as the engine breaks in a little more.

$47 for 13.1 gallons of gas. Thats almost 2 hours of pay to fill up. When I was 17 and working for $2 per hour I could buy 8 gallons of gas, so back then I could get 16 gallons on 2 hours pay, but probably only got 15 mpg if that. So not much difference when adusted for inflation and the increase in mileage. It still hurts to see such large increases in the price in such a short time.

I don't see how someone earning minimum wage can afford a car, gas and insurance these days. This country has been built and run on cheap oil for a long time. These prices can only make life harder for a lot of people, creating more poor and desperate folks. I don't think this is a good thing.

Oh and yes, I'm thankful for my I4 :thmsup:

Is.it.more.fuel.efficient.to.fill.your.tank.up.all .the.way.or.to.fill.up.a.little.at.a.time...I've.b een.filling.up.$6-$10.until.I.hit.the.gas.light.then.repeat.....rece ntly.I.managed.29.00065.MPG's.ALL.CITY.miles...... ..(Space.bar.broke)

2003
4.Door
I-4
57k.Miles

I really dislike going to gas stations. I live in the inner city of Seattle and so much of what is ugly to the eye is there. So many of the stations are dirty, have ugly liquior area and signs, have beggars hang out. Quite a eyesore.

hey Jackster aka Jackpop
Missed your response to the trumped up 4.4 sec 0-60 you are posting for the 335I
Care to re expain?
S

:scratch: let's get back on topic!

down hill on a steep grade--LOL:thmsup::thmsup:

I'm all for getting back on topic-but I'd like the Jack to explain his overly optomistic(pc) 0-60. If this simple statement is not the truth, what do you think of his other posts


2005 I-4 and love it. Mainly used to retrieve parts for the Corvette

I'm all for getting back on topic-but I'd like the Jack to explain his overly optomistic(pc) 0-60. If this simple statement is not the truth, what do you think of his other posts


2005 I-4 and love it. Mainly used to retrieve parts for the Corvette

You are talking about something in his signature that you seem to disagree with...which has nothing to do with this thread. If you want to question something in his signature...start your own thread or, better yet, why don't you pm him.

Right here in Hawaii, Regular is about $3.89 and Premium is $4.01. I too, am also glad that I bought the I4 instead of the V6.

I'm only averaging 19.5 mpg out of my 2008 V6 Sedan Accord after 1 1/2 fills.. Am I doing something wrong here? It only has about 600 miles on it and I've been driving like a grandma staying under 70mph on the freeway w/ slow acceleration (50city / 50fwy?). Could I expect a big spike in the MPG department once its fully broken in? If so, when will that be? Or am I stuck with a inefficient Accord? :(

btw, it's a AT



Sorry for digging up a old thread, I just couldn't help it :)

Here's a little update on my mpg so far (2008 V6 Sedan Auto).
2nd fill - 19.65mpg (no a/c)
3rd fill - 22.48mpg (no a/c)
4th fill - 21.16mpg (no a/c)
5th fill - accidentally reset odometer so mpg is unknown
6th fill - 19.66 (80% fwy driving w/ lots of traffic, AC on for the most part)


So far I have 1600 miles on the car.. I can't seem to get the mpg to the mid 20's even if I drive slow! Maybe it's the California traffic that's affecting the mpg. Anyways, $5 a gallon of gas this summer will surely hurt my wallet if the mpg doesn't improve :wave:

My 00 V6 Coupe constantly gets 24 MPG. I am waiting for a plug-in Hybrid before trading in my tried and true Accord. I have read some articles that state that Honda does not appear to be interested in building them. Does anyone have any new information on Honda's stand on plug-in Hybrids? I know that GM and Toyota are planning for them in 2010.