I just recently install my hid kit from Xentec and I was wondering can anyone tell me if I have to take my battery out to adjust my headlight on the driver side.
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Heres where I mount my ballest. I did it in less than 30 mins for both side. A Honda specialist shop was gonna charge me 200 dollars. I figure I can try before I take it to them:)

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You should've searched more before you installed the kit on your sedan.
Headlight adjustment itself won't help you very much.

what do u mean by i should've done more research? The hid really helps on a country road. I just need to know how to adjust them a bit higher thats all.

the thing is that sedans dont have projectors and with the HID kit installed you will be blinding other drivers

sedans dont have projectors and you are going to blind the sh!t of of people even if you lower the aim. Beam pattern is going to be scattered every where. Please do yourself a favor, TAKE THAT OFF. I hate people with hid on there halagon headlights, they blind me, it seems like they have high beams on all the time.

Right, HIDs really should have projectors to control the beam pattern, the last thing I would do is aim those any higher

A long phillips screwdriver is the tool you would need to adjust the headlights. Insert the phillips from the top of the adjustment screw and twist. No need to take the battery out.

To all of you that don't think that having hid on halegen housing is a bad idea. why do you think that they put hids in the 01-06 rl, or the Cadillac escalade or the mercury mountaineer and the 02-05 is300. Did i mention that all don't have projectors. If the maker thinks that it gonna blind others don't you think that they wouldn't put it on them.

Dude all you guys all hypocritical, you know hids in halogen reflector based housing isn't going to blind anyone more than a hid based reflector..

You know most of you would have done it.. Stop with the whole "oh its blinding bs" there are so many cars on the road/freeway no one would even notice. Hid's are just blinding in general, and most cars have them no days..

By the way, The accord sedan headlights ARE designed for HID's as you can probably tell, they handle hids VERY good

Dude all you guys all hypocritical, you know hids in halogen reflector based housing isn't going to blind anyone more than a hid based reflector..

You know most of you would have done it.. Stop with the whole "oh its blinding bs" there are so many cars on the road/freeway no one would even notice. Hid's are just blinding in general, and most cars have them no days..

By the way, The accord sedan headlights ARE designed for HID's as you can probably tell, they handle hids VERY good

First off Before you go on and criticize others, Get a grasp on the articulation of the english Language.. " they handle HID's very well. not very good! DUH!
Second off according to the DOT in nearly all states. HID on a vehicle without a projector housing are and I quote " ILLEGAL" end quote... some of the manufacturers do have regular housings with HID's yes.. but the housings are designed for them.. The sedan's IS NOT! hence stop Blinding people and stop being F***King selfish cause remember, Turnabaout is fair play... and wait till you are the deer in the headlights...

i got my retros in today, ill show you what HID on a sedan is suppose to look like. =D

Jamie is right. Those cars you mentioned do have HIDs but not in "halogen housings," they are in reflective housings designed specifically for HIDs. At any rate, car manufacturers have moved on from this outdated technology to using projectors and I don't believe any cars use HIDs housed in reflectors anymore. Those that were used in the past were specially designed for the application and much less blinding then your setup will prove to be. I'm not trying to attack you , just telling it like it is. Check out Dennis' lights for a sedan with projectors.

yup, bad idea man, that beam pattern is awful, you have halogen reflectors not HID reflectors, and like mentioned above, they dont use HID reflectors anymore
as for jackpop, man you drive up on these lights vs a true projector HID and there is a HUGE difference in the two, i hate it when i am on a 2 lane with no median and someone is coming at me like this, very hard to see
for the OP, i dont know that there is anyway to adjust those, and i know you wont be able to get rid of all that glare

I just need to know how to adjust them a bit higher thats all.
please dont. even if you had halogens i would tell you not to aim them higher. you will REALLY be blinding other drivers, even if it was just halogen.

To all of you that don't think that having hid on halegen housing is a bad idea. why do you think that they put hids in the 01-06 rl, or the Cadillac escalade or the mercury mountaineer and the 02-05 is300. Did i mention that all don't have projectors. If the maker thinks that it gonna blind others don't you think that they wouldn't put it on them.
yeah well, too bad none of those examples you listed have halogen housings. those reflector bowls were specifically designed for HIDs.

Dude all you guys all hypocritical, you know hids in halogen reflector based housing isn't going to blind anyone more than a hid based reflector..

You know most of you would have done it.. Stop with the whole "oh its blinding bs" there are so many cars on the road/freeway no one would even notice. Hid's are just blinding in general, and most cars have them no days..

By the way, The accord sedan headlights ARE designed for HID's as you can probably tell, they handle hids VERY good
umm, yes they do glare more than reflector HIDs. now, whether its to the point of "blinding" depends on the car. it varies a lot how well (or poorly) halogen housings handle HID.

and no, the accord housings are not designed for HID. it just happens that the COUPE projectors can handle HIDs alright (as in minimal glare, but i think width is still not as good as a true HID projector). but you can clearly tell from his picture that the SEDAN does not. see all those concentric circles above the cutoff on his wall shot? that is called glare and is not supposed to be there.

I don't believe any cars use HIDs housed in reflectors anymore.
i believe the prius is the only new car today with reflector HIDs.

and no, the accord housings are not designed for HID. it just happens that the COUPE projectors can handle HIDs alright (as in minimal glare, but i think width is still not as good as a true HID projector). but you can clearly tell from his picture that the SEDAN does not. see all those concentric circles above the cutoff on his wall shot? that is called glare and is not supposed to be there.


You are correct on all count, except one. To be fair, those concentric circles are there by design, even with stock 9006 bulbs. They are there to light up street signs. The difference is that those circles are not nearly as intense with stock bulbs. Putting HID in there will a) Throw off projection of the headlights as the bulbs are not the same and b) Make those circles much more intense than they were designed to be, hence, blinding people.

Also, the picture he has taken is poor. Distance from the headlights to the wall is way too short to show any additional glare. Take the car back 25ft and I bet money there will be a shit ton of glare VS stock.

To all of you that don't think that having hid on halegen housing is a bad idea. why do you think that they put hids in the 01-06 rl, or the Cadillac escalade or the mercury mountaineer and the 02-05 is300. Did i mention that all don't have projectors. If the maker thinks that it gonna blind others don't you think that they wouldn't put it on them.

Those are designed from the ground up for HID application. Accord Sedan headlights are designed for halogen. HID in halogen housing = disaster. If you want HID, do it right. Not only will it look good (and not ghetto rigged), you won't blind other driver, AND you will actually get more light on the road.

Does your HID look like this? I didn't think so.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Czar654321/retrofit/tfx9.jpg

Go retrofit, or go home.

Man, there is no reason to bash the poor guy like that... people take things wayy to personal in thread. Let's all take it easy and provide facts instead of harsh (and sometimes hurtful) opinions.

Man, there is no reason to bash the poor guy like that... people take things wayy to personal in thread. Let's all take it easy and provide facts instead of harsh (and sometimes hurtful) opinions.

We arent bashing him... What we are doing is absolutely contradicting him as to not only the safety aspect, but the total "legality" of what he is talking about.. Keep in mind there are alot of Accord owners on this forum that are not only 8th gen but 7th, 6th, and 5th Gen who dont know that there is a difference in the equipment. When some "NAHA" comes in and tries to contradict something that is being advised by a collective group of members who know better, You're G-d damn right we are going to put him in his place.. I know of way too many people who lost their lives on route to and from the Fla Keys on US1 which is poorly lit and used incorrect lighting (HID's) and blinded oncoming traffic causing people to run off the road... Additionally there was a case here where someone had HID's in the car meant for standard halogens blinded an oncoming driver blinded them off the road, killed them ( passenger survived) and because the vehicle had improper equipment the driver of the car with the HID's was charged with negligent homicide due to improper equipment on the vehicle.. additionally his insurance refused to pay the civil suit on the basis of Just cause... So before you judge the forum on bashing a specific person, we are educated for the most part on what we are talking about either by experience, or via contributary info from the industry...
With that said.. if you want to get HID's on a coupe you have 2 options possibly 3. 1) Retrofit your headlights 2) wait for someone in the aftermarket to release Projectors for the sedan 3) and this I cant quote on but someone here in south fla is working on possibly swapping out the front clip from a sedan front to a coupe.. ( that should be interesting to see how it turns out! :)
JJ

the asian accord sedans actually come with HIDs...do you think they went to all the trouble to create two different types of housings? i think the sedan's housing is made for HIDs...let me know if i'm wrong

you would be wrong... sorry to say BTW the asian accord sedan is basically the TSX acura. which came with HIDS. product development goes world wide so there is no telling who designed what.. Jap spec are just that, JAP Spec. most of the parts of the US Accords are made and assembled in the US. I think in the range of 65 or 75% if I remember my window sticker correctly.. the asian market works differently than the US. things that are standard on the asian honda market. are usually the upgrades to the more luxurious versions of the Acura.. 2 different rear projection baffles totally

Here goes the HID BASHING AGAIN!

Dude he didn't ask for your opinions about HID and reflectors. There is enough bashing on here about this topic, so obvious everyone knows already what people think about HID and reflector housings.

I agree with the owner of the post, when i installed my HID i had to higher my lamps, and no i'm sorry, I didn't create any problems for on-coming motorist and i don't care how much you try to prove other wise. I have done my testing and as long as you know what your doing, it will be fine. So what if it is illegal, so many things are illegal and people still do it, so please just keep your bashing to yourself! Oh and before you say it, YES IT DOES GLARE, but so do most lights (Including some projected ones that i've seen). The glare is not blinding and yes, I HAVE TESTED IT and have no problems with head on/or behind with other people i have asked.

BTW don't waste your breath cause i'm done with this BS, this is the only thing i hate about this forum so far, is once HIDs are mentioned, BAM there goes someone bashing.




******Anyway to answer owner of post, do a google search to know how to properly adjust housings, and on our headlights from the time you will see an opening that has ZZZ, stick a large phillips in there and turn, the headlamps with slowly raise/lower. Hope this helps.

I'm not leaning to one side or the other. I know the pre. gen IS300 have HID's with a reflector housing. There are two kinds of OEM HID bulbs. One that is made for a reflector or shield and one that is not (straight). One thing that is different on OEM cars (like the IS300) is that the all manf, has to install a beam leveler under/behind the light housing to adjust for driving up hills etc (to not blind oncoming traffic) when the car is tilted up or if there is a heavy load in the back of the car. The leveler will adjust the housing when needed automatically. So as far as I know, those are the main difference than the aftermarket HID kits. The OEM light housing (with the auto levelers) and two HID bulbs types; D2R and a D2S (reflective and straight) or something like that. Forgive me if I have the wrong names of the two HID OEM bulbs and for grammar.

i believe the prius is the only new car today with reflector HIDs.

You are right, I stand corrected.

I agree that I would like to see a picture of this car 25 feet from a wall on level ground rather than 2.5 feet from a wall.

correct fish .... which makes people Like Giga who wants to act like a 5 year old.. the type of person you just want to shoot out the head lights on when in oncoming traffic.. I think he should drive someone else car and let someone come at him with his car and get a taste of his own med...or worse yet blind someone off the road and when they crash an burn as in my previous post, well see him on the local news going to prison for 15-20 for negligent homicide... simply stated selfish selfish selfish and caring about nothing but yourself Giga.... which is what simply makes you an ignorant A****le by ways of the road...... so in closing....Giga Youre an Idiot!!!! Grow up..

Does your HID look like this? I didn't think so.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Czar654321/retrofit/tfx9.jpg

Go retrofit, or go home.


They sure do. RX 330's baby.. ! :)

there are riced out civics, eclipses, etc. all over my area w/ hid's and they don't blind me...

stop staring into the headlights maybe?

at night if you can't see because someone has there high beams on, look at the line on the right side of the road and follow that. if you still have problems driving doing that, please stop driving.

First off Before you go on and criticize others, Get a grasp on the articulation of the english Language.. " they handle HID's very well. not very good! DUH!
Second off according to the DOT in nearly all states. HID on a vehicle without a projector housing are and I quote " ILLEGAL" end quote... some of the manufacturers do have regular housings with HID's yes.. but the housings are designed for them.. The sedan's IS NOT! hence stop Blinding people and stop being F***King selfish cause remember, Turnabaout is fair play... and wait till you are the deer in the headlights...

:lmao::lmao:

Wow, A little angry maybe! People really get this upset over the internet.. Excuse me, one word that came out of my mouth isn't to your standards, Just as people are more comfortable saying "Me and Him" verses "Him and I" I would rather say good.. All I can say is get over it. Its the way I speak, I can careless if my words are not "proper enough for you" Who am I trying to impress.
Anyway, I was making a point, That everybody starts somewhere and its usually with reflector HID's..

And the Accord Sedan's reflectors are not designed for HID's, That explains why they have a spot for a ballast, right.


And please remind me where is my criticism, Myself telling others to not bitch at a person adding HID's to a reflector headlamps. Its getting old, We have all herd that it "blinds others" which IMO it does not, Like I was saying there are so many cars on the road today, the average joe could never tell that there are HID's in a halogen reflector verses an HID reflector, They both produce glare.


hence stop Blinding people and stop being F***King selfish

Did I ever mention I have retrofitted HID's... No reflector.. You must be talking to somebody else..


Your pretty pathetic.. :thmsup:

there are riced out civics, eclipses, etc. all over my area w/ hid's and they don't blind me...

stop staring into the headlights maybe?

at night if you can't see because someone has there high beams on, look at the line on the right side of the road and follow that. if you still have problems driving doing that, please stop driving.

Exactly my point.

You want to be a sissy girl and complain about glare you shouldn't be on the road. Its not like you will hear a person bitching at the sun because its in there eyes.. Just get over it.

correct fish .... which makes people Like Giga who wants to act like a 5 year old.. the type of person you just want to shoot out the head lights on when in oncoming traffic.. I think he should drive someone else car and let someone come at him with his car and get a taste of his own med...or worse yet blind someone off the road and when they crash an burn as in my previous post, well see him on the local news going to prison for 15-20 for negligent homicide... simply stated selfish selfish selfish and caring about nothing but yourself Giga.... which is what simply makes you an ignorant A****le by ways of the road...... so in closing....Giga Youre an Idiot!!!! Grow up..


I had to waste more time to say, You really are ridiculous.


What a cry baby. :bawling:

and no, the accord housings are not designed for HID. it just happens that the COUPE projectors can handle HIDs alright (as in minimal glare, but i think width is still not as good as a true HID projector). but you can clearly tell from his picture that the SEDAN does not. see all those concentric circles above the cutoff on his wall shot? that is called glare and is not supposed to be there.


i believe the prius is the only new car today with reflector HIDs.

Every single reflector in the WORLD produces glare, with circles or square or whatever above the cut off..


Show me one that doesn't produce glare above the cut off line, HID reflector or not.

Jackpop, I believe Ice's picture post was intended for the starter of the thread, not you. If you have retros then I'm sure your lights do look like those in the picture, which is the purpose of our argument. Secondly, just because there is a "spot for the ballast" doesn't mean the car was designed with that in mind... I can find plenty of "spots for ballasts" on my 98 altima, it doesn't mean I would put one there or that the manufacturer ever intended for me to.

As a side note, why don't you read the whole thread and then reply rather than posting like five replies in a row, all of which offer rather invalid arguments.

jackpop, you obviously dont "get it," noone is saying that HID reflectors are perfect, they are not near as good as projectors hence not using them anymore, but HID reflectors have a special bulb as well as optics built for it, where as what the OP has is not comparable by anymeans in bulb or reflector
im not gonna say i cant see after crossing them, but it can be extremely distracting, and in certain conditions, extremely dangerous, the glare/brightness is bad in a set of halogen reflectors with PNP HID's, i guess you dont have many dark 2 lanes around, because, im sorry bud there is a huge difference between OEM and PNP
im gonna stop arguing with naivete, read this and it'll explain the physics of the argument
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

Jackasspop next time Ill let you scrape the dead body off the road you schmuck! I pefer not to do it anymore... Am I ****ing clear enough? Its ****ing idiots like you who make my job 100X harder than it needs to be... as for pathetic? obviously you're self absorbed young and clueless....grow up.. and get a clue!
the end...

lol... your a freakin drama queen

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Jackasspop next time Ill let you scrape the dead body off the road you schmuck! I pefer not to do it anymore... Am I ****ing clear enough? Its ****ing idiots like you who make my job 100X harder than it needs to be... as for pathetic? obviously you're self absorbed young and clueless....grow up.. and get a clue!
the end...

Your telling me to grow up, you just called me Jackasspop, Sounds pretty immature to me..

Self absorbed, How do you figure??

I need to get a clue.. Oh please.

The person thats using profanity and throwing a huge fit OVER THE INTERNET is telling me to get a clue.. Go figure.

Whats your job have to do anything with this, Your job isn't to scan forums all day.

jackpop, you obviously dont "get it," noone is saying that HID reflectors are perfect, they are not near as good as projectors hence not using them anymore, but HID reflectors have a special bulb as well as optics built for it, where as what the OP has is not comparable by anymeans in bulb or reflector
im not gonna say i cant see after crossing them, but it can be extremely distracting, and in certain conditions, extremely dangerous, the glare/brightness is bad in a set of halogen reflectors with PNP HID's, i guess you dont have many dark 2 lanes around, because, im sorry bud there is a huge difference between OEM and PNP
im gonna stop arguing with naivete, read this and it'll explain the physics of the argument
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

I'm not saying in anyway its not distracting.. I'm saying, One person with HID's in reflectors is NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, period. There are so many cars on the road today, Nobody really pays attention to headlights.. common now..

And ive seen that site.. Ive done my research, I know just as well as many of you here.. I am just stating my opinion.. Don't like it, than don't respond.

Jackpop, I believe Ice's picture post was intended for the starter of the thread, not you. If you have retros then I'm sure your lights do look like those in the picture, which is the purpose of our argument. Secondly, just because there is a "spot for the ballast" doesn't mean the car was designed with that in mind... I can find plenty of "spots for ballasts" on my 98 altima, it doesn't mean I would put one there or that the manufacturer ever intended for me to.

As a side note, why don't you read the whole thread and then reply rather than posting like five replies in a row, all of which offer rather invalid arguments.

And I said that as a joke just to respond to the picture....

So, Wtf..

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Yea ok... whatever dude... you just really showed your intelligence there... maturity has its rewards... you just dont get it... and thats mentality.. sorry for your Bf or g/f or whatever...
Im out..

:lurk:

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Yea ok... whatever dude... you just really showed your intelligence there... maturity has its rewards... you just dont get it... and thats mentality.. sorry for your Bf or g/f or whatever...
Im out..

Peace :cig:

I just installed a HID on my buddies 08 sedan just the other day. He wanted it after he saw it in my 08 coupe. He lit up the night much more then mine with the same ballast kit setup. Looked real good. He wanted it, he bought it, I installed it. I'd install it again on another 08 sedan if I could. Its their car, their risk. If its really bad, he'll get a ticket and maybe that'll convince him to take it off. Who cares just help the man out when he asks for tips on how to aim the headlights. I would except I dont know how to.

For the sedans aren't HIR halogen bulbs nearly as bright as HID and legal?

I think that is what ICE used if I remember correctly.

btw. I think someone with say a TV/DVD upfront and 5% tint is more hazardous on the road then someone with HIDs in a reflector housing

Who cares just help the man out when he asks for tips on how to aim the headlights. I would except I dont know how to.

Typical installer of HIDs in reflector housing, doesn't even know how to aim them .

Arguing with people like this is pointless. The people who won't listen to those that actually did research and know what they are talking about are the same type of people who don't care about other motorists. Nothing we can say will change their mind.

yea bossy except if you know about my car, its a show car and off the road and a trailer queen... :):thmsup:

lol night exactly hence why the argument is a moot point...

Typical ignorant know it all.

I installed it. What makes you think im obligated to aim also. And plus, it rather bring it to a professional to do the aiming then try to do it myself up against the wall looking at it by eye. Is that how you do things? You take short cuts?

The one taking the shortcuts is the person installing HIDs without getting projectors. No I don't take shortcuts, because I know what I am doing. I can aim headlights just as properly as any professional without paying out the ass for a job that easy.

I just installed a HID on my buddies 08 sedan just the other day. He wanted it after he saw it in my 08 coupe. He lit up the night much more then mine with the same ballast kit setup. Looked real good. He wanted it, he bought it, I installed it. I'd install it again on another 08 sedan if I could. Its their car, their risk. If its really bad, he'll get a ticket and maybe that'll convince him to take it off. Who cares just help the man out when he asks for tips on how to aim the headlights. I would except I dont know how to.

He lit up the night more because its not made for this use...lit up the road is what the true setup does, i would agree he lit the night up more

its not him getting a ticket that is the bad deal here, its the person on coming that cant see the curve in front of them that is in trouble, fighting to have to look for an outer white paint stripe is not a safe way to drive

as for aiming, my guess is there is a section in the manual, as it is extremely simple to do

I have a 08 Coupe. I installed on a Sedan. Its his money, his car. I just installed it for him. He likes it, thats all that matters. What happens after the install is his business. If he gets a ticket, maybe that'll convince him to take it off, maybe not. Besides bashing the guy and telling him to take it off. Tell the guy how to realign the headlights. You know hes not taking it off, he paid good money for the kit. By just helping a member out by telling him how to align the headlight you make a bad situation just a little better. Better with aligned HIDs in a reflectr housing as oppsed to non-aligned HIDs in a reflector housing.

as for aiming, my guess is there is a section in the manual, as it is extremely simple to do

did i not throw that out there?

well bossy are you in the automotive industry?

Bossy, if you read the original post you would see that this guy is trying to aim his lights UP. That doesn't make a bad situation better, it only makes it worse. You are right that it is up to your friend to do with his headlights what he wants, but don't offer the fact that you installed HIDs in reflectors and would do it again as a valid argument for this being a good idea.

He lit up the night more because its not made for this use...lit up the road is what the true setup does, i would agree he lit the night up more

its not him getting a ticket that is the bad deal here, its the person on coming that cant see the curve in front of them that is in trouble, fighting to have to look for an outer white paint stripe is not a safe way to drive

as for aiming, my guess is there is a section in the manual, as it is extremely simple to do

Having streetsigns and digital billboards and the guy beside me driving that Ferrari Enzo isn't really that safe for the on coming driver also. Good luck trying to get those distractions removed. Distractions are goign to be there every way you look at it. That hot blond 2 cars down...Damnnnnnn!

Oh....Headlights more up? ok...thats a bad idea!!!

Jamie...Nope just an enthusiast

ugh...those dont cause you to involuntarily lose site of the road...you are missing the point....if you are looking at an enzo and wreck, thats your own fault

This is the funniest thread! :lmao::banana::yes:


You people are hard headed! C'Mon Jamie! HIDs Kill people!? When?! I never heard this before, must be something to do with your neck of the woods where people don't know how to drive! Got any more laughs for me?!:thumbsup:


Bossy good F-ing point "Typical ignorant know it all.

I installed it. What makes you think im obligated to aim also. And plus, it rather bring it to a professional to do the aiming then try to do it myself up against the wall looking at it by eye. Is that how you do things? You take short cuts?"

TardS!

You know what is bad: Broken lights, accident headlights out of wack aiming straight to your eyes, missing reflectors for tail lights which blind!, ect..., TV in the front, Dark Tints, Doing make-up while driving, eating while driving, on the phone, drunk drivers, ect...) I am sure that you guys (HID BASHERS) don't do any of these things right!?

If your afraid of HID and them blinding you, maybe you shouldn't be on the road...

GET A LIFE...!

btw. I think someone with say a TV/DVD upfront and 5% tint is more hazardous on the road then someone with HIDs in a reflector housing

Agree, You forgot this..

Nova 60 watt Police strobe kit ( white)


You might as well drive 150mph down the freeway than turn that thing on..
But, As much as I dislike you at the moment..
Your car sounds pretty sick..


But a little over worked, I don't know if would of put all that money in a accord, You could of gotten a much better car for the cost of adding all the extra's to the Honda

Bossy, if you read the original post you would see that this guy is trying to aim his lights UP. That doesn't make a bad situation better, it only makes it worse. You are right that it is up to your friend to do with his headlights what he wants, but don't offer the fact that you installed HIDs in reflectors and would do it again as a valid argument for this being a good idea.

Thats cuz with the HID bulbs in, the pattern is different which cause the light to be lower, ITS PROVEN! Same happen to me!

Get your facts straight, he's not trying to blind people. Thats why headlights have adjustments...cuz they somethings move or could be aimed differently depending on the bulb...

ugh...those dont cause you to involuntarily lose site of the road...you are missing the point....if you are looking at an enzo and wreck, thats your own fault

Its pretty involuntarily to me. lol...I think its pretty involuntarily for most people that like cars.

Hardheaded? They say your lights may be distracting on the road? but don't agree that there's other distractions as well?

CMON!

lmao, I don't even know where to start picking apart Giga's arguments....

I'll just point out that so far the only arguments for putting HIDs in reflectors are that you should look to the side of the road if you see them, and that they aren't the only distraction out there, so it's OK to add one more distraction to the road....:lmao:

involuntarily: against your will

against your will too look at a nice car, and you like cars? hmmm

lmao, I don't even know where to start picking apart Giga's arguments....

I'll just point out that so far the only arguments for putting HIDs in reflectors are that you should look to the side of the road if you see them, and that they aren't the only distraction out there, so it's OK to add one more distraction to the road....:lmao:

I'm sorry but i'm sure not a lot of people find looking at lights amusing. My point is if you find the lights distracting, you will find many more out there. I'm not saying its ok to add distraction on the roads....

read throughly before posting a comment...

That hot blond I was telling you abt. Yea, it was involuntary. I looked, couldn't help myself. Drivers should be limited only to the uglies

Thats cuz with the HID bulbs in, the pattern is different which cause the light to be lower, ITS PROVEN! Same happen to me!

Get your facts straight, he's not trying to blind people. Thats why headlights have adjustments...cuz they somethings move or could be aimed differently depending on the bulb...

I always wondered, before I did my retro I put HID's in the reflector and the light was facing the ground, it almost made the halogens look better...

I'll just point out that so far the only arguments for putting HIDs in reflectors are that you should look to the side of the road if you see them, and that they aren't the only distraction out there, so it's OK to add one more distraction to the road

you forgot cuz its his money and he can do what he wants, without concern for safety...sounds like cartman

Where did u get ur retro's done? What kind of projectors did u get?

Your argument is HIDs kill. When the sun is at its brightest and directly in your eyes. Does that cause accidents? Even though the sun is in your eyes figures show its way minor - there is always other factors. It being speed, driving to close, cell while driving, etc....

Even though its a distraction, it is not as bad as u make it out to be.

hid's dont kill.... Morons who put hid's in light assemblies that they dont belong in cause accidents that result in death is what kills... I think the final argument from my end is simply this and Ill state it again.. you are free to do whatever it is you want with\ your car BUT! acknowledge the fact that it isnt right... blinding or not.. there are people who look in here and dont know the difference and will do it cause they think its totally legal and its ok and dont realize that there may be repercussions later on whether its a ticket, or the lights blind somone to the point that they run off the road.. My belief here was that we are a part of this forum to get out "GOOD" information about the coupes and sedams, and tell people what we have done but we should acknowledge that there may be some legalities or safety hazards in the mix... Do I have a tv? NO! I have 4 of them.. do I have strobes? YES im a firefighter and USAR its allowed.. do I drive the car.. No Its a trailered Show car... that last fact right there negates any and all arguments of what and how my car is equipped..... so would I tell people to do things and advise them to risk their safety.. no... Id tell them that there are things available to purchase but I wouldnt tell them to watch a movie while driving.. hence tv's being on in the front/driver's sight is illegal... whether you turn it on and kill someone cause youre an idiot is of your own volition....

No Offense bossy.. you just dont get it... yes the sun is blinding as well but remember this in the daylight your eyes are already adjusted to the brightness of the day you can control that via sunglasses etc... a car coming at you in the dead of night with wide spread HID's your eyes cant adjust in time.. hence why HID's in non DOT approved housings are Illegal... dont tell me it hasnt killed... or should I say tell that to the widow who's husband and daughter we scaped off of the shoulder of US 1 3 weeks ago... there were 20 witnesses to the accident and the HID's in a civic driven by a 19 year old was the cause....

jackpop, yes i know every headlight produces glare to light up road signs and such. but it is the AMOUNT OF GLARE that is in question. by putting HIDs into a halogen housing, you are putting out AT LEAST 3 times the amount of light above the cut off because HIDs throw out on average three times more lumens than halogen. and i say AT LEAST because unless the reflector perfectly handles HID light. if not then it will cast improper reflections ON TOP of the nominal glare output.

and the sun? really? since when can people control the sun? headlight output though, that is completely within our control. and 'just because other people are doing it' is pretty much the lamest excuse ever. people these days only care about themselves and have no accountability for their actions. you've got to have your own sense of right and wrong; just because other people are doing it does not mean its OK (i feel like im talking 5 year olds). why not just drive around with your high beams on then if no one else will care or notice? that will put out even more light than just low beam HIDs. you'll even light up tree tops! :thumbsup:

you dont have to be staring into headlights to notice excessive (note the word excessive) glare. and look to the right side of the road? why should i have to compromise my forward visibility because some jackass has blinding headlights? what if something comes out at me from the left while im staring at the right side of the car? you are supposed to look FORWARD when driving.

jackpop, yes i know every headlight produces glare to light up road signs and such. but it is the AMOUNT OF GLARE that is in question. by putting HIDs into a halogen housing, you are putting out AT LEAST 3 times the amount of light above the cut off because HIDs throw out on average three times more lumens than halogen. and i say AT LEAST because unless the reflector perfectly handles HID light. if not then it will cast improper reflections ON TOP of the nominal glare output.

and the sun? really? since when can people control the sun? headlight output though, that is completely within our control. and 'just because other people are doing it' is pretty much the lamest excuse ever. people these days only care about themselves and have no accountability for their actions. you've got to have your own sense of right and wrong; just because other people are doing it does not mean its OK (i feel like im talking 5 year olds). why not just drive around with your high beams on then if no one else will care or notice? that will put out even more light than just low beam HIDs. you'll even light up tree tops! :thumbsup:

you dont have to be staring into headlights to notice excessive (note the word excessive) glare. and look to the right side of the road? why should i have to compromise my forward visibility because some jackass has blinding headlights? what if something comes out at me from the left while im staring at the right side of the car? you are supposed to look FORWARD when driving.

Well said.... :thmsup:

If you wanted HIDs then you should of bought a car that came with HID.
Just because everybody does it , doesnt mean you have to do it!
I HOPE YOU GET PULLED OVER AND GET TICKETS OR EVEN GO TO JAIL!! I get blinded from behind all the time with civics accords that have HID.

I'm sorry but i'm sure not a lot of people find looking at lights amusing. My point is if you find the lights distracting, you will find many more out there. I'm not saying its ok to add distraction on the roads....

read throughly before posting a comment...

Giga, I read your post quite THOROUGHLY (not throughly), and you are missing the point. Something doesn't need to be amusing to distract you, although if I saw your headlights I probably would be amused. The thing that makes them a distraction is that they are bright and nearly unavoidable. Having to look away from them is a distraction. Naming other stupid things that drivers do to their cars and when driving doesn't justify doing another stupid thing.

Thank you Mr. Spell checker, let me guess, never had a typo before? Cuz your perfect?

You guys are so F-ing retarded...you wanna know why? Cuz your complaining about blinding headlights which you say "HID"

Any headlights can blind, its the user who knows weather they need adjustments or not! I've been blinded by so many stupid vehicles that it doesn't matter weather it was HID or not. You tell me this, if the housing is properly aligned how is it different than any other bulb? Because it producers more light? Because you "heard" that they glareee soooo much? Have you compared them side by side? Have you actual seen it in person where the glare is impossible to withstand? Are you kidding me? Maybe your eyes are the problem. You know there are people out there sensitive to light right?

Get over it, it's not HID that are the problem, it's people who don't get them aligned. And if you know what, that dumb 19 yr old with HID that you say "killed" someone, he does deserve jail time if that was in fact the case, but i'm sure there was other reasons behind it. I've been blinded oh so many times and never once came close to any accidents.

My last remark on this post, till the next HID post appears and this riot starts again, HID are illegal, but it doesn't mean they blind people. Its just not something the government wanted approved for minor reasons. There's many things that aren't DOT approved, and it doesn't in fact mean it's dangerous to owners or other motorists out there. So get over the baby shit that HID are so blinding and they kill people, cause they don't its the stupid owners fault, just like any motorists with any type of lighting system that isn't properly maintained.

lol I don't know "weather" these are typos or not

Please Giga, enlighten us. What are the "minor reasons" the government cites for not approving HIDs in reflectors?

YES they are different because they produce more light! And no, I haven't "heard" that they glare so much, I have "SEEN" it. Yes, I compare them side by side on the road EVERY DAY.

Also, alignment has NOTHING to do with it. The only remedy would be to aim them down drastically, which would then only serve as a danger to you because they wouldn't throw light nearly far enough.

Giga next time you are in a parking lot Look at any car.. inside the housings are different shapes these are reflecting the light in a specific direction. yes it gives a countour and a look but it isnt there for the looks Its there to distract the light in a direction specifically.. not if you look at an HID Housing.. you will notice that the housing 99% of the time lacks those shapes or angles.. It specifically sends the light one way to a certain level and that is it.. so yes there is a difference when it comes to the housings.. Now If you dont care about other drivers on the road thats your deal but we as the other responsible people on this forum pretty much arent going to stand by and allow you to feed complete misinformation saying it isnt a problem when it in fact is.. there are questionable legalities to it just because "you" dont have a problem with it, doesnt mean it doesnt affect other drivers on the road we all share the road and "should" watch out for each other.and not cause harm distraction or otherwise....... simply stated...

Those police cherries gives me seizures.

Its unfortunate abt them couple that you said got killed. But unless they came back form the dead and told you it was indeed the HIDs. I won't by it at all that it was the HIDs and not anything else. Like Giga said, theres got to be other factors.

And as for those 20 witnesses. Unless u had to scrape them off the highway too since they were driving under the same circumstances. HIDs being the cause is well, to me...unlikely

OMG.....this thread was started to see how to adjust headlights. This is so gay why would you bash on this guy, ITS HIS OWN CAR..... plus the sedan's headlights have a pretty descent "cut off" not like projectors but Honda made it so there would be a line and only a little "bleed through" HIDs in reflectors don't BLIND PEOPLE, you all act like once you pass a guy w/ HIDs in reflectors you can't see at all wit projectors if you look straight into them they blind you also. A TON OF PEOPLE HAVE HIDs in reflector housing in CA.

I believe that HIDs in reflectors DO blind people but you guys exaggerate WAY TO MUCH... its fine, I'm planning to get HIDs in my car also

bossy Im not going to have a battle of logic with an unarmed person go take your lack of knowledge elsewhere..... :)

exactly - like what i said earlier. If the man installed HIDs, let him have HIDs. Hes asking how to align his headlights, hopefully to make it better. So tell the man how to align.

lol...Lack of knowledge. lol...a firefighter is telling me this?

Jamie you and me man we never got into an argument before. But you should know that hella lot of people install HIDs into reflectors - Giga is just saying what me and Bossy have been saying: its his car let him do what he wants. :D

oh by the way hows the audio system turning out? POST PICS!!! :thmsup:

Bossy, making fun of someone's profession is not cool at all and irrelevant to this thread. You HAVE shown a lack of knowledge and logic in your posts.

God forbid something should happen where a firefighter should need to risk his life to save yours one day, see if you are cracking jokes about them then.

Nighhawk - And making fun of someones intelligence is? Have any of my previous comments insulted anybody?

If you wanted HIDs then you should of bought a car that came with HID.
Just because everybody does it , doesnt mean you have to do it!
I HOPE YOU GET PULLED OVER AND GET TICKETS OR EVEN GO TO JAIL!! I get blinded from behind all the time with civics accords that have HID.

What did this guy do to you? I believe the post was "headlight adjustment after installing hid" not put the guy down.
Grow up people, it's just lights. I brought this car not to long ago and thought that the forum was more adult like, but no its the same as younger kids forums.

So you want me to go to jail too, I got HID 55watt kit 5k. How about that?

I got blinded by a regular bulb because they aim theirs way up, maybe they shouldn't be having those lights too.

Leave the guy alone, it's his problem, just help him what he had posted.

Nighhawk - And making fun of someones intelligence is? Have any of my previous comments insulted anybody?

Well you did call me a typical ignorant know it all.

I'd rather be a know it all than someone who argues about a topic they clearly have no knowledge or experience with. Either way, what Jamie said was nowhere near as mean-spirited or illogical as your comeback.

lol...well, that you are. And what you wrote just then proves it.

As for comebacks. I don't think I played that game since the 6th grade or so. Its not a daily "adult/mature" thing for me to do

You are absolutely right, it's not a mature thing to do, but you did.
Call it what you want, comeback, retort, ignorant response, whatever. I'm not arguing with you anymore because we are getting off topic. Just watch what you say because you are being unnecessarily offensive.

JESUS CHRIST!! Why you still talking? tell the man how to align his headlights. You are the self proclaimed pro at it...

do it yourself bossy......
since youre an expert.....

8th.... the only thing that was attempted was to explain that the housings were not made for HID's gigs and mr Bossy seem to think they know differently.. well I guess its them vs the opinion of the rest of the forum Including a number of members who are Honda Technicians..... plain and simple.. and bossy, sorry to tell you Im not just a fire fighter Im USAR Task force 1 Urban Search and rescue.... Means I was at ground 0 I was at Oklahoma city, I was in New orleans after the cane so unless you are going to suit up and put your fat ass on the line to save others, I strongly suggest you shut the F--- Up!

:) would u like a cookie?

I got respect for your fellow fire fighter aka USAR Task force 1 Urban Search and rescue. I don't have respect for u or your attitude. I think whatever you have here has gotten to your head, and makes you think your better then everybody else.

U people get so angry on these forums. Jamie is abt to pop a vein.

The topic is to align the headlight housing. I already said I didn't know how to align it. You're so against it and you know he's not going to take it off yet, but yet you don't want to help the man out and help him cut down the glare. You just rather him drive along with his misaligned HID headlights blinding everybody on the road just on principle...and your principle is HIDs don't belong in reflectors, so your not going to help him instead bash him. "It's better he kills somebody then me telling him how to align his headlights - it proves him wrong"

I just need to know how to adjust them a bit higher thats all.

Last time I checked, adjusting headlights higher doesn't cut down on glare.

If you read the thread instead of sitting here arguing, you would have realized his question was answered anyway.

I agree, not everyone can afford or wants to put retro's on their cars, its just a personal preference. Just let it go.... If you dont like ppl that have HID kits, thats your business, some people are not as lucky as others when it comes to spoiling their cars.

nighthawk...your still here. How you doing?

Nighthawk...See how rude and obnoxious your buddy Jamie is? He sadly ruined my day...:(

I think this video will help all of us:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Be6jlCuMvVQ

Enjoy...

exactly - like what i said earlier. If the man installed HIDs, let him have HIDs. Hes asking how to align his headlights, hopefully to make it better. So tell the man how to align.
no he isnt. if he was aiming them lower or adjusting them correctly, then im sure he would have gotten a better response. BUT HE WANTS TO AIM THEM HIGHER! :thumbsdow

Arasheht - lol...good one...

Jamie - You need this more then anybody before something bad happens to you. I care for u man! If you don't feel so hot, come see me. I'm a pediatrician. I'll be able to fix u right up

no he isnt. if he was aiming them lower or adjusting them correctly, then im sure he would have gotten a better response. BUT HE WANTS TO AIM THEM HIGHER! :thumbsdow

Now why would he do that? Smack him upside the head!

I think this video will help all of us:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Be6jlCuMvVQ

Enjoy...
no, i think this video would be of more help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcX63e7peV0&search=Hidding

Alright, to help those just joining who may want to make a decision regarding HID installation in reflector housing, and to be fair to both sides, these are the arguments presented by each side. Decide for yourself.

AGAINST HIDs in reflector housing:
Causes excessive glare due to higher lumens in a housing not designed to handle them.
Illegal, will cause you to fail inspection or get tickets constantly.
Distracting and annoying to other motorists, have possibly caused accidents.

FOR HIDs in reflector housing:
A lot of people do it.
Other motorists should know to look at the side of the road when a light is too bright.
Some people have sensitive eyes.
There are other distractions out there such as the Sun and cell phones.
Some people with halogens have their lights aimed too high anyway.

There it is, everything you need to make an informed decision one way or the other.

nvm

Night - This is not a game. It's not how many people u can get on your side or how many people u can get to think your side.

Its his car. He wants HIDs, so let him be. Without all the harsh comments some of you came out swinging like bat out of hell. Some of them are pretty harsh I must say.

so uhm..how many sedan owners have H.I.D right now?

Datng...Well theres the thread starter. But if you got a sedan and u want HIDs and need to comment, stay far far away from this forum because apparently there a couple people here that'll bash you like crazy for no apparent reason other then they don't like it and/or that they know whats best for YOUR car and your money.

WHOA end this thread already..... ITS RETARDED WHEN SOMEBODY BRINGS UP HIDs IN REFLECTORS THE WHOLE FORUM ATTACKS EACH OTHER - lets end the fighting and help this guy adjust his headlights -_-

Datng...Well theres the thread starter. But if you got a sedan and u want HIDs and need to comment, stay far far away from this forum because apparently there a couple people here that'll bash you like crazy for no apparent reason other then they don't like it and/or that they know whats best for YOUR car and your money.

Yes, his car and money, he can certainly do whatever he wants with it, AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE. It certainly does not give him the right to blind the shit out of other drivers :grumpy:

With that said... :grouphug:

Rights...I do believe people that have reflectors have the right to install HIDs. And not be criticized for it.

BTW - Anybody else notice that we are doing all the talking and the thread starter has gone MIA

Rights...I do believe people that have reflectors have the right to install HIDs. And not be criticized for it.
They won't be criticized if they don't ghetto rig and blind other people. This is clearly not the case. Let's not make your brand new Accord into a rice cooker now ;)

I've got a coupe w/ hids...no rice cooker here...:)

I've got a coupe w/ hids...no rice cooker here...:)

Coupe is fine... Ya'll got projectors. We're talking sedans here. 2 different things...

Indeed we are. BTW - did u know the cost of rice has gone wayyyy up?

Indeed we are. BTW - did u know the cost of rice has gone wayyyy up?

Yeah, it sucks.. HOW AM I GOING TO FEED MY FAMILY??? :paranoid:

Giga next time you are in a parking lot Look at any car.. inside the housings are different shapes these are reflecting the light in a specific direction. yes it gives a countour and a look but it isnt there for the looks Its there to distract the light in a direction specifically.. not if you look at an HID Housing.. you will notice that the housing 99% of the time lacks those shapes or angles.. It specifically sends the light one way to a certain level and that is it.. so yes there is a difference when it comes to the housings.. Now If you dont care about other drivers on the road thats your deal but we as the other responsible people on this forum pretty much arent going to stand by and allow you to feed complete misinformation saying it isnt a problem when it in fact is.. there are questionable legalities to it just because "you" dont have a problem with it, doesnt mean it doesnt affect other drivers on the road we all share the road and "should" watch out for each other.and not cause harm distraction or otherwise....... simply stated...

Get your ass outta fairly land, nobody cares for each other. Atleast not from where i am from. You come to my area thinking like that your going to get runned off the road. Welcome to 2008 jackass where the land that people look to start trouble rather than avoid and respect others.

I'm done talking...

lol I don't know "weather" these are typos or not

Oo i'm sorry "Mr. College: man, can you please teach me how to read and write all over? (Yea i know your thinking, this is college work? If your stupid enough not to know i am being sarcastic... Oo wait did i spell that right!?)

Sorry if i don't proof read for posting comments, not going to waste my time looking over my writing for spelling/grammer for these people...

Oo I'm sorry "? Mr. College. Man, can you please teach me how to read and write all over? (Yea I know you're thinking, this is college work? If you're stupid enough not to know I am being sarcastic... Oo wait did I spell that right!?)

Sorry if I don't proofread (one word) for posting comments, not going to waste my time looking over my writing for spelling/grammar for these people...

There you go, taught you to read and write "all over."

RETROS coming tonight most likely will have pics tommarow or tonight.

Cool, post the pics ASAP, I'm interested to see what they will look like on the car.

Although the good & bad of HIDs isn't a problem to argue about or discuss... this thread has gone WAY beyond that & I'm closing it. If the same ones are involved in the same sort of bashing in another one. I will ban those members. NOT FOR DISAGREEING, BUT FOR ALL THE PERSONAL BASHING!!!