Alignment cant be done with EIBACHS

[gvan1998]

I just installed eibach spring on my accord i4 coupe which lowers 1" same as the hfp spring. I went to a honda dealer to get the alignment done, i told them that i had hfp suspension installed, they took it back in the service bay and said the camber is not adjustable on the accord. People who had their alignment done with springs , did you get the camber adjusted?? also when you look at the instructions for hfp spring installation at collegehills honda, the instructions give dealer the specs for camber adjustment, this leads me to beleive that camber is adjustable.

[jblaust]

The camber is not adjustable, without a camber kit. Unless you take it to a shop that specializes in chassis's and alignments.

[jblaust]

Call Miami Chassis. Obvoiusly they are in Miami. Maybe if your speak to them they can explain how they do their manual camber adjustments on most lowered cars without a camber kit. They lowered and aligned my car for me no problem. Maybe they will know a shop in your area. They are the best Miami has to offer for any kind of suspension mods or alignment issues you have. Their number is 305-634-5211

[gvan1998]

The camber is not adjustable, without a camber kit. Unless you take it to a shop that specializes in chassis's and alignments.

did you get your camber adjusted?
will it be fine driving without caber adjustment since its only lowered 1"
SHould I get the alignment done anyways even if the camber is not adjustable?

[Jakerx]

Well that's not entirely the truth. Camber technically is adjustable on cars. Slight negative/positive camber is adjustable with certain alignment corrections....it's just not adjustable enough in most cases without use of a camber kit.

[joerockt]

Yes, you should still get the alignment. At the very least they will adjust the toe, which is more important then camber. But eventually you should get the kit to adjust that negative camber.

I wonder if the rear multilink is the same on the 8th gen as it is on the 7th...The Ingals kit would work...

[68vetty]

I'm interested in lowering my I4 sedan. Do you have pics yet?

[jblaust]

There is only an adjustment for the toe on the 8th gen accord. No adjustment at all for camber. You can get the front ball joint camber kit for the accord and then have it adjusted when you get it aligned. (The front upper control arm camber kits are better IMO but last time i checked not available fore the 8th gen yet). The ball joint camber kit is the same as the 7th gen front ball joint camber kit. Last time i checked i couldnt find a rear camber kit for the 8th gen yet. The shop I went to made a manual adjustment to the camber, not sure how they do it though. Honestly I dont think you will have a major camber issue with a 1 inch drop. Maybe over time you might notice some slight uneven tire wear, you can just rotate more often and you probably wont even notice it. If you went lower than 1.5 inches or more then i would say def get a camber kit right away. I bought the ball joints for my car and then my shop said that i didnt need them and to send them back. They said it wasnt bad just with the springs and made some small manual adjustments and have it perfect now.

[The Q]

I had my Eibach's installed last week by my local Honda dealer. They also did the alignment. The Service Writer told me the Camber was slightly off, but as long as I rotate the tires every 5 - 6K miles everything should be okay. I looked at my printout from the alignment and it shows the camber is set at 2.1 degrees. If you look at the HFP specs, my settings look to be spot on. I'd still like to have a rear camber kit.

As for the ride, wow, the car rides and handles sooooo much better now. I have NO issues at all.

I suggest you let them get it as close as they can and enjoy your ride. Keep an eye out for a rear camber kit to install later.:biggrin:

[Fish Hunter]

I installed the Eibachs Pro this past weekend and the car dropped 1.5 inch all around. Yeah I know....go figure. It's only suppose to drop 1.2 in the front and 1.0 in the rear.

The spec toe-in for a Sedan s/b zero in the front and .08" in the rear. The front camber spec is less than -1 degree and .05' (for 18 inch wheels). Mine was -.5 degree (after the drop) on the two fronts and -2 and -3 degree on the rear. The rear camber specs are -1 degree. Caster spec is 3 degrees, mine was 4 degrees.

So overall with a 1.5 inch drop, the sedan took the drop pretty good. I just have to watch the wear in the back.

[osidepunker]

So let me get this straight, no camber adjustments without a kit. But if I go with a 1" HFP drop, it shouldn't be an issue. Everything else can be aligned. Is that the deal? I don't think I want to go with the Eibach's, it's probably too aggressive of a drop for me.

[Fish Hunter]

Either camber plate kit or some coliovers have a camber adj on them (like K-Sport). Or you can get the lower arm camber kit from a place like Eibach. On my Sedan, the rears are bad at 2 and 3 degrees, the fronts are an acceptable -.5 degrees. I hope this answers your question.

Some frame shop can actually correct this by shifting the sub-frame and/or shimming the arms. But they better know what they are doing.

[Fish Hunter]

So let me get this straight, no camber adjustments without a kit. But if I go with a 1" HFP drop, it shouldn't be an issue. Everything else can be aligned. Is that the deal? I don't think I want to go with the Eibach's, it's probably too aggressive of a drop for me.

I think I missed one of your questions. The HPF suspension comes with a strut and spring. I was told (by someone that works at AHM) that the coupe HFP suspension kit does not fit on the Sedan. On the Sedan, the only factory adjustment is the Toe-in.

[osidepunker]

Thanks fish. I want to go with an HFP kist because I don't want to have any alignment issues. I think I heard one person say the dealer didn't need to do an alignment after installing an HFP kit.

[jblaust]

The HFP and Eibach drop are almost the same drop no difference. The difference is HFP comes with Struts. Aftermarket high performance struts are not available for the 8th gen yet. So your choices are you can go with Eibach springs 1.2 inch drop for $230 or you can go with HFP kit (Springs and Struts) for $600 plus install and alignment.

[Edaccord08]

Just remember the Accord has upper A arms front and back, so camber has nothing to do with shock/strut assembly.
Its would be controlled in lower and upper A arms pivot points. Also note if you get uneven camber from one side to other the front sub frame can be shifted to avg the values better.

[jblaust]

My alignment shop did manual camber adjustments to the subframe. My camber is perfect to factory specs. I dont think it was far off the begin with though. Most shops dont know how to do this though. You have to go to a specialist.

[Fish Hunter]

Here is a pic of the Sedan with Eibach springs........