View Full Version : New 20's Installed! Take a gander!
omiloc 05-30-2008, 02:03 PM I got my 20 in. Ace Alloy Executives installed. Staggered 20x8.5 front and 20x10 rear. I changed the tire size from my original from 30 to 35 series (30 is too thin) so im running Nitto NT555 235-35-20 front and 255-35-20 rear. They are actually ET43 offset front and ET48 offset rear. They look VERY SEXY in person, pix dont do them justice. I think theyre unique, noone Ive seen has this type of rim or a staggered setup coupe on 20s. It rides perfect. Feels almost stock. No rubbing or scraping, and tires sit flush with the fenders and dont poke out. Im very happy with the results. Tell me what you think.
misterterryaki 05-30-2008, 02:06 PM :jawdrop: Beautiful car you have there! Rims look perfect on NBP. Maybe a decklid spoiler to finish off the back??
8thGenInspire 05-30-2008, 02:10 PM wow looks really good!
clewttu 05-30-2008, 02:18 PM like it, wish i could see in person as pics really never are quite the same
get those windows tinted son
bruceleroy 05-30-2008, 02:22 PM damn dude thats pretty sexy
Takumi 05-30-2008, 02:26 PM Wow, looks perfect!! did you lowered your car already with those pictures?
bruceleroy 05-30-2008, 02:29 PM yea he has lowering springs
bruceleroy 05-30-2008, 02:31 PM do you have any camber issues?
morcheez 05-30-2008, 02:33 PM looks great :thmsup:...wish i had some money for rims :)
bruceleroy 05-30-2008, 02:36 PM also this might be a stupid question but since you have the Staggered setup how would you rotate your tires? or you just dont
silverkord 05-30-2008, 02:57 PM Looks good bro! Just gotta say bout time!
ryan mcgrogan 05-30-2008, 03:08 PM very cool, i cant wait to get my wheels
omiloc 05-30-2008, 03:33 PM also this might be a stupid question but since you have the Staggered setup how would you rotate your tires? or you just dont
Not a stupid question at all I didn't know at first either. Sadly I cannot rotate these tires : ( as they are unidirectional. There are some setups where I belive you can switch lefts and rights staggered but rarely. I made sure the tires I bought were rated "treadwear 300" which is high for a low profile tire. Should last about 24 months. I don't mind paying a couple hundred bucks for tires every 2 years.
And no I don't have any camber issues. I got it aligned with the wheels front wheels are within recommended and rear is off only .04 degrees which is basically nothing. It would be a waste of money to get a camber kit with that little of a change. They also installed my tpms sensors and so far work great - no light on so they are doing their job.
Thanks everyone for the compliments - now I need that fujita!
_JuztaJ_ 05-30-2008, 03:37 PM since you went with 20x10 on the back did the need to cut the inside of the rear fender because of the drop? a guy from axis wheels has a drop with 20x10 on the back aqnd they had to cut/roll and bend the fender..
by the way what color is that hypersilver?
saersxlr8 05-30-2008, 03:44 PM Wow Hawt!! Nice Dude, you have an LX though right??? How's the difference in power?? I'm sure they way a lot more than stocks, how's handling and acceleration/braking??
paulisme 05-30-2008, 03:51 PM these are the first 20s i've seen that i actually kinda like.
omiloc 05-30-2008, 04:13 PM since you went with 20x10 on the back did the need to cut the inside of the rear fender because of the drop? a guy from axis wheels has a drop with 20x10 on the back aqnd they had to cut/roll and bend the fender..
by the way what color is that hypersilver?
I actually saw that axis pic and told my wheel guy. He called the owner of axis and he said that pic was photoshopped..the wheels are real but that fender roll was a myth... There is no kit that lowers the car that much. There are NO clearance issues in the back they fit perfect.
To saer- I really can't tell that much difference in performance. Acceleration may be a tad slower but not really noticeable. Braking feels the same and handling is excellent. The eibachs are great springs with the 20s.
_JuztaJ_ 05-30-2008, 04:17 PM The eibachs are great springs with the 20s.
good im going with eibachs and 20's too i just wasnt sure if eibach or H&R would look better (plus i didnt want to wait for H&R lol) so then whats the size of the tires offset if its 20x10..
omiloc 05-30-2008, 05:07 PM good im going with eibachs and 20's too i just wasnt sure if eibach or H&R would look better (plus i didnt want to wait for H&R lol) so then whats the size of the tires offset if its 20x10..
The wheels are offset not the tires. The 20x8.5 is 43 offset the 20x10 is a 48 offset
Jakerx 05-30-2008, 05:15 PM The wheels look great. Kudos.
However, your tires are way too narrow. Your front tires should've been a 245 with a 8.5" wheel width; and with your rear wheels at 10" wide...a 255 tire width is WAYYY too narrow. You need a 275 back there.
omiloc 05-30-2008, 06:14 PM The wheels look great. Kudos.
However, your tires are way too narrow. Your front tires should've been a 245 with a 8.5" wheel width; and with your rear wheels at 10" wide...a 255 tire width is WAYYY too narrow. You need a 275 back there.
A 235 is definitely not too narrow for an 8.5 front. The 255 in the rear is a bit narrow but fine for now. We put that there instead of the 275 because the car is lowered and a 275 may have rubbed the fender. I can upgrade later if needed but I think ill be fine.
08coupe23 05-30-2008, 08:45 PM That looks sick!
_JuztaJ_ 05-30-2008, 09:57 PM just a random question for everyone in general.. does anyone exactly know how much longer non-staggered tires will last compared to staggered?..
bruceleroy 05-30-2008, 10:22 PM I don't mind paying a couple hundred bucks for tires every 2 years.
just hope you dont hit any speed bumps or nails that rip your tire open :thmsup:
omiloc 05-30-2008, 10:47 PM just a random question for everyone in general.. does anyone exactly know how much longer non-staggered tires will last compared to staggered?..
There is no difference in treadwear if its staggered or not assuming your camber is good. Staggered just means the rear wheel and tire is wider. And if your thinking you need to run a 35 series tire compared to a 40 there should be no difference in treadwear as well they are just different heights. When buying your tires ALWAYS look at the treadwear rating on the sidewall anything 300 or above should last a while. I wouldn't go cheap on no name tires. So go get them staggered rims!
Jakerx 05-30-2008, 11:37 PM A 235 is definitely not too narrow for an 8.5 front. The 255 in the rear is a bit narrow but fine for now. We put that there instead of the 275 because the car is lowered and a 275 may have rubbed the fender. I can upgrade later if needed but I think ill be fine.
Yeah...it's not too narrow in the front if you want to speak strictly in functional terms. It still looks pretty bad in my opinion.
I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything...but when I do something I do it properly the first time or not at all.
omiloc 05-31-2008, 01:32 AM Yeah...it's not too narrow in the front if you want to speak strictly in functional terms. It still looks pretty bad in my opinion.
I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything...but when I do something I do it properly the first time or not at all.
properly? I don't think I could have fit a more "proper" setup. A 245 wouldn't match the rear. A few centimeters of tire sidewall makes that much of a difference to you? You can't even tell unless you physically walk up to the car look at it from the side a foot away and think to yourself "hmmmph wow that fraction of an inch makes this whole rim setup look crappy - I wish I had a teeny tiny bit of rubber sticking out from the rim".
Just my opinion - but I think the majority could live with it.
justeddie 05-31-2008, 06:04 AM Yeah those are definitely one of the best rims I have seen on the new coupe. :thmsup:
But wouldn't putting 20" rims on a I-4 put stress on the drivetrain? (I am just pointing that out becuse I am jealous :biggrin:)
Tiger W 05-31-2008, 06:40 AM Is it just me, or does that 3rd photo look a little like a Bentley Continental GT? Nice ride!
i'm sure its just me, but wouldn't the cost of all those parts supported an EX V6? I don't ask in that "OMG ITS SO MUCH FASTER LOL" kind of way, but rather material quality and overall pleasure of ownership. Drive the V6 like you've got some sense and it'll throw that "OMG GAS MILEAGE?!?!!" thing out of the question. Its obvious with the big wheel and flashy lights that you wanna be noticed and seen... throaty engine, 6 gears, heated leather, and navigation are all killer ways to get you 'noticed' without putting any parts on at all.
On topic, its a good match of wheel look to vehicle. As for performance and overall handling -- unsprung weight is unsprung weight; no matter what "feel" you imagine, performance will be hindered. It may feel like it corners like a god now, but it'll be at the direct expense of treads. Going up from the LX steelies/alloys to 20s is likely an impressive weight change, but I won't go stating it like fact since I have no idea what the actual weights of either wheel is.
Osiris_x11 05-31-2008, 07:14 AM Very nice look, all-in-all! Good selection... :cool:
_JuztaJ_ 05-31-2008, 08:27 AM omiloc: do you think if you went with an H&R drop it would be too much? im trying to do it right and look its best the first time i dont wanna be stuck selling eibachs and buying H&R (but then again the wait they are putting us through doesnt help)
omiloc 05-31-2008, 01:02 PM i'm sure its just me, but wouldn't the cost of all those parts supported an EX V6? I don't ask in that "OMG ITS SO MUCH FASTER LOL" kind of way, but rather material quality and overall pleasure of ownership. Drive the V6 like you've got some sense and it'll throw that "OMG GAS MILEAGE?!?!!" thing out of the question. Its obvious with the big wheel and flashy lights that you wanna be noticed and seen... throaty engine, 6 gears, heated leather, and navigation are all killer ways to get you 'noticed' without putting any parts on at all.
On topic, its a good match of wheel look to vehicle. As for performance and overall handling -- unsprung weight is unsprung weight; no matter what "feel" you imagine, performance will be hindered. It may feel like it corners like a god now, but it'll be at the direct expense of treads. Going up from the LX steelies/alloys to 20s is likely an impressive weight change, but I won't go stating it like fact since I have no idea what the actual weights of either wheel is.
Dude in all honesty I had a set amount of money to spend when I bought this car as I paid cash for it. I did my research for the best looking, reliable, 4 cyl I could find. Believe me I would LOVE to have a v6 6 spd I just didn't have the money and don't finance things anymore. I also thought I was going to keep it pretty much stock until I found this forum and saw the potential it had. I traded in a 96 audi a4 and b4 that I had a 3 series bimmer (that "is honda the new bimmer' thread makes me laugh- my honda is wayyyy better in almost every aspect)
As for the performance/ stress on drivetrain stuff- all the dealerships here are putting 20s on the i4 sedans! If it was such an issue would they really risk it considering the 4 dr weighs more and has less hp? I doubt it. So to sum it up I love my coupe, it has plenty of power for me, gas is at 4.20 a gallon and I have a 4 cyl, and my rims really seem to make no difference in how the car performs.
KUNAL 05-31-2008, 01:22 PM the setup looks astonishing and wheels are just perfect regards to the narrow tires I think you will be fine. you really have great taste in rims kudos :thumbsup:
elp_jc 05-31-2008, 02:05 PM What a difference a good set of wheels does. Man, it looks like your car has widened fenders, almost like an Aston Martin; simply stunning. But yes, I also think the wheels are too big for those tires, especially the rear ones. I'd buy those same wheels (offset altered to look identical), same tires, but 8s and 9s, which is the perfect size for those tires. Not even the V6 needs bigger rubber. The reason I say that is because stretching the tires that much doesn't leave you that 'protective lip' most tires have, and if you ever touch something, it'd be the wheels. And it's be a shame. Plus you're carrying unnecessary unsprung weight, which is not good at all for suspension components, handling, braking, etc. Enjoy your car man; it's the best looking one I've seen:thmsup:.
JC
jblaust 05-31-2008, 02:57 PM Nice...I like them alot!....I was looking at the same rims same size but in Chrome. How much did you pay and where?
omiloc 05-31-2008, 03:20 PM omiloc: do you think if you went with an H&R drop it would be too much? im trying to do it right and look its best the first time i dont wanna be stuck selling eibachs and buying H&R (but then again the wait they are putting us through doesnt help)
I really couldn't tell you because noone has put them on a car yet so there's no way to accurately tell how much it would really lower the car. My eibachs actually dropped my car a little more than advertised. As far as clearance, I MAYBE could get another 1/4 to 1/2 lower but I wouldn't risk it with 20s. It may rub with turning, also my camber is good, any lower I think would require a camber kit. Also I don't personally like the completely slammed look, I like an aggresive clean stance. Do what you want though. Either wait and test the h&rs or get the already tested eibachs. Good luck!
SykVSyx 05-31-2008, 03:26 PM Not too aggressive offset which is good. The rim style, not too big a fan of, but the 20's seem like they were meant for the car! Clean looking Coupe though.
omiloc 05-31-2008, 03:38 PM Nice...I like them alot!....I was looking at the same rims same size but in Chrome. How much did you pay and where?
Thanks, I saw yours too and it looks amazing! I paid just over $1900 for rims, tires, install with tpms, and alignment. They actually knocked off 100 bucks because I dropped the car off and they said it would be done in a few hours and they decided to keep it over night without calling and asking me first. Long story short I called pretty much screaming at them the next morning and got a discount. But I've been there many times and always have done a good job. Wheel and tire connection in Irvine, ca.
omiloc 05-31-2008, 07:19 PM Here are some more shots of her getting the wheels installed....and on the lift while getting alignment. Also random pic of the HIDS at the Del Taco drive thru - if you dont have Del Taco youre missing out. It looks like one light is out for some reason but its not. Forgive the quality - they were taken on my phone.
And thank you to everyone for the great compliments! Its really cool to hear all the opinions! :wave:
dash242 05-31-2008, 07:21 PM Nice job!
Xv R3LO4D vX 07-05-2008, 05:14 PM could someone who is good with photoshop turn his car silver or shop those wheels onto a silver coupe? please...
walhaddi 07-05-2008, 05:53 PM SAY BYE BYE TO YOUR SUSPENSION and you better get bigger brakes or at least change your brakes every year now.
omiloc 07-06-2008, 12:32 AM Hah I'm good friends with a honda dealer mechanic. He says I'm totally fine as far as brakes and suspension. You think a 1 inch drop will alter it that much?! Your car will sink that much with 3 people in the backseat on stock springs. My camber is almost perfect per a hunter alignment btw. As far as brakes, they are fine. I don't think the dealers out here would put 20s on brand new 4 cyl coupes and sedans if it was an issue. Haters, haters.....
Reload - I thought you already bought those lexanis?
Mase764 07-06-2008, 05:14 AM omiloc i still love itttttt
remember when u told me the offsets.. i cant find them for my rims.. should i try to get them sort of similar in size?
Xv R3LO4D vX 07-06-2008, 06:46 AM someone please photoshop his car and make it silver. I want to see those wheels on a silver coupe......PLEASE
Xv R3LO4D vX 07-06-2008, 11:22 AM bump for a photoshop....
FLAACCORD 07-06-2008, 11:33 AM Nice car!!
omiloc 07-06-2008, 01:14 PM omiloc i still love itttttt
remember when u told me the offsets.. i cant find them for my rims.. should i try to get them sort of similar in size?
Mase - the offsets don't have to be identical to mine, just make sure they're up there since stock is +55. I got lucky with my setup I guess because they sit PERFECTLY in line with the fenders. Oh yeah- you can buy "blanks" or non drilled wheels from most manufacturers and custom order them in the right offset. Generally speaking if you're looking for a staggered setup for your coupe if the wheels advertised as "staggered fwd" is available it will probably work. Good luck!
Mase764 07-06-2008, 01:30 PM Thanx homeslice.. will dooo
AnthemARC 07-06-2008, 06:03 PM Very nice, where did you have them installed at?
I am a fan of staggered set ups.
Xv R3LO4D vX 07-06-2008, 08:22 PM anybody? Please photoshop Omiloc's wheels onto a silver accord coupe. I really want to see how the black lip looks on a silver coupe. If I had photoshop Id do it but I dont. SO I NEED YOUR HELP
ST3ADY STAT3 07-07-2008, 12:58 PM Make sure that you go with a 275/30/20 or 285/30/20 with a 10" wheel or it will look goofy on that set-up as a 255/35/20 is to narrow, look how the tire is going in. I put the same Rims on and I have 245/35/20 Fronts and 285/30/20 rears no rubbing and didn't have to roll my fenders, I also have the Eibach pro kit drop.
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