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piranhaleg
05-31-2008, 08:39 PM
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/2008-nissan-altima-coupe-forums/257873-edmunds-08-altima-coupe-vs-08-accord-coupe.html

piranhaleg
05-31-2008, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by QR25DE175
i've seen that one a couple of weeks ago, and i thinks its B.S. the Alti will rape the honda, our cars dont need to get 5000 RPMs untill we get power

lol the Accord doesn't need to rev to 5000 rpm to make power. Don't forget its a 3.5L too! Edmunds had trouble launching the accord due to its wheelspin. Any car that is FWD and traps over 100MPH is fast in my book. Both the accord and altima can do that.

Here is a link to VTEC.net. The guy tested a new 08 Accord V6 6spd on the dynapack to see what numbers the accord was putting out. It bested out his 05 G35 6spd lol. The accord also made the HP and TQ numbers earlier in the powerband than his 05 G35. Check it out! The accord is definantly underrated.
The Temple of VTEC - Honda and Acura Enthusiasts Online - Articles - Outstanding!: Dyno Testing
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xxDaJackalxx
06-02-2008, 07:23 AM
The real praise:

The 3.5-liter SOHC V6 in the Accord produces 268 horsepower at 6,200 rpm, while the 3.5-liter DOHC V6 under the Altima's hood is good for 270 hp at 6,000 rpm. Despite the edge in torque output that the Nissan V6's 258 pound-feet has over the Honda's 248 lb-ft, the Accord feels as if it is the twist-meister here.

As we drove through the mountains to our test track, the Honda easily pulled the inclines at low rpm in 3rd gear. And thanks to new dynamic engine mounts, this V6 is smoother and quieter than the VQ-powered Nissan, too. That's something we never thought we'd write about an Accord.

Neither of these cars exhibits the kind of torque-steer effect you might expect with a powerful V6 driving the front tires...

At the dragstrip, these evenly matched engines produced nearly identical results despite as-tested weights that barely favored the 3,260-pound Altima by 138 pounds. The Altima made it first to 60 mph in 6.2 seconds, while the Accord trailed by a tenth of a second at 6.3 seconds. Once the quarter-mile arrived, the Accord had inched ahead with a run of 14.6 seconds at 101.6 mph, as the Altima trailed behind with an effort of 14.7 seconds at 99.2 mph...

Whereas the Altima coupe bucked and protested as it ran up and down the test track, the Accord coupe was the picture of poise. With the exception of a rather tricky launch during acceleration tests and insufficient brake cooling, the Honda could have sped through the remainder of the track and road testing with us sitting on one hand.

The 2008 Honda Accord Coupe not only outperforms the Nissan Altima coupe, but also easily surpasses the performance of previous Accord sedans and coupes.

Even if this Accord coupe were more expensive than this Altima coupe, we think you'd be able to deduce our winner here.

Problem is that to compete on content, the 2008 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Coupe's $25,595 base price had to be inflated to $29,490 with the $3,200 premium package and $600 optional stability control system. That means the 2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6's $28,945 base (and as-tested) price merely serves to underscore this coupe's overall superiority in this contest.

Perhaps we got a broken, tired or used-up Altima. Perhaps the contest should've been conducted with automatic transmissions. Perhaps this is an irrelevant contest. Anyway you look at it, however, the 2008 Honda Accord Coupe felt like it was engineered, designed and built to an entirely different, higher and better standard.

No contest. The Accord coupe is the one that's left, and the one that's right.:banana:

zro26t
06-02-2008, 09:06 AM
Interesting find...

Edaccord08
06-02-2008, 11:28 AM
This is why Spec max HP/Tq can really throw you off as its only one point on graph.
You need to see the full picture through out the rpm range, meaning full dyno HP/Torque curves, then you can see how flat the torque curve is, which will help in judging accel of the car.
From what I have seen of dyno graphs Honda does very well in producing a nice flat curve across the mid-upper rpm range , which is very important

elp_jc
06-02-2008, 01:57 PM
Another factor not reflected on any power graphs is GEARING. Other than a too-short first (IMO, at least), Honda got it mostly right. The Nissan's interior looks so cheap that even if much faster than the Accord, I wouldn't be interested anyway. I wish the Accord had DOHC, chain-driven cams, and hydraulic valve lash adjusters, but no car is perfect, and the fact I'd never seen mileage high enough to mess with them, I can look over that. Later.
JC

RTexasF
06-02-2008, 02:24 PM
Seems Honda has a winner other than the brakes which have never been a strong point. Do they not consider consistant short braking distances a good thing? That's something they just can't seem to get right.

"The Accord's four-wheel discs and tires produced only one good stop from 60 mph with an effort of 128 feet, and the car's stopping distances grew as the brakes heated and faded noticeably. The third quarter-mile run at more than 100 mph was particularly memorable, as the brake system couldn't generate enough brake pressure to lock the tires sufficiently to even elicit a response from the ABS. Yikes."

As far as the Altima's wieird clutch take up and shifter every report on the six speed 3.5 be it coupe or sedan says the same thing. There's nothing wrong with the one they tested, that's just the way it is. A VERY touchy throttle is also part of the deal. I investigated buying a 3.5SE 6 speed sedan and it didn't take long to figure out they have a long way to go to get it right including quality control.