:bawling: my baby is broken......

i feel your pain bro.
hope everyone is okay.
wut happened?

Damn! Hope your ok healthwise :)
Please tell me that it was caused by someone else!

Damn! Hope your ok healthwise :)
Please tell me that it was caused by someone else!

Yes, they were sited and she was trying to pull a u-turn which is illegal in ohio. I'm all banged up and my dad was flown to the local trauma ctr. with a ruptured vert. in his spine bad times here for sure.....

sorry to hear about that ...was everyone ok? what when where how ?

Oh man... I wish and pray all the best for you and your dad. There are so many idiot drivers out there... I hate it when you cant do a thing to divert from the situation, when you are a sitting duck and the other driver is a clueless shmuck who doesn't belong on the road in the first place.

Good luck with everything!!!

Damn!!!!!!
I am so sorry to hear that about your dad!!!!
Man, my heart goes out to you man!
I hope everything comes out ok.
Health is more important than your car, even though its a shame.
Take care of yourself and family and worry about the car later.
God bless!!!!!!!

Yes, they were sited and she was trying to pull a u-turn which is illegal in ohio. I'm all banged up and my dad was flown to the local trauma ctr. with a ruptured vert. in his spine bad times here for sure.....


I am very sorry to hear this...Best wishes to your father and hope you both recover soon.

Worry about your health first as your car is always replaceable/fixable. Keep us informed.

Dang!!! Hope you and your Dad a speedy recovery!!!!

Wonder why the seat side airbag didn't deploy?

So sorry to hear about this .... best wishes to you and your dad.

Best wishes for you and your dad as well

:(

yes
thank god for those side curtains

Dang!!! Hope you and your Dad a speedy recovery!!!!

Wonder why the seat side airbag didn't deploy?

I think it did deploy... you can see a portion of it on the picture with the passenger seat.

Glad that you are ok. The car can be fixed or replaced. People can't be replaced. I hope for a quick and speedy recovery for your father.

Cars can be replaced. Wishing your father a speedy recovery.

Good luck with everything. Hope all is well.

...where in Ohio are you? I'm near Cleveland.

Thank God you guys are ok. Praying for you guys and the quick recovery of your dad. The insurance will take care of the car.

-God didn't promise us days without pain, laughter without sorrow, or the sun without rain.He did promise us His strength for the day,His comfort for our tears, and His light for the way.

I echo the sentiments already posted. Wish you and yours well.

Sorry about the accident. I hope your father has a speedy recovery.

Keep us updated.

I think it did deploy... you can see a portion of it on the picture with the passenger seat.

yes, it did come out on impact...and thanks for all the support we greatly appreciate it. attorney appointment in the morning fun stuff:dunno:

i hope your father recovers quickly. as much as it stings to see the car that banged up, that's nothing compared to a serious injury.

Thank God you guys are ok. Praying for you guys and the quick recovery of your dad. The insurance will take care of the car.

-God didn't promise us days without pain, laughter without sorrow, or the sun without rain.He did promise us His strength for the day,His comfort for our tears, and His light for the way.

Thanks and that is SO true....

Good luck with everything. Hope all is well.

...where in Ohio are you? I'm near Cleveland.
Marysville 10 min. from the plant.....

my prayers for you and your father joins those from the folks here...

painful and worrisome as things are, things could've been worse. i am glad that you are relatively OK and wish your father all the best.

please do keep us posted.

Wow..... interesting that U-Turns are illegal there, but wow, what an impact, really hope your father gets out of the problem and be back in shape as if it never happened, hopefully wasn't too serious, tell him that everyone in this forum hope he gets better, it sounds kinda funny and odd, but it might help!

more prayers and best wishes for a successful and speedy recovery for you and your dad.

Wow..... interesting that U-Turns are illegal there, but wow, what an impact, really hope your father gets out of the problem and be back in shape as if it never happened, hopefully wasn't too serious, tell him that everyone in this forum hope he gets better, it sounds kinda funny and odd, but it might help!

thanks, and I will keep everyone up to speed....well off to the doctor for x-rays 5:15 appt.

Damn! I hope your dad recovers 100%. He should sue the life out of the driver for the illegal U! Definitely pains me to see that beautiful coupe all banged up, but that can fixed, as others have already mentioned. God bless you and your family, tell your dad a guy in the forum is hoping for his speedy recovery!

Hey were all wishing your dad back on his feet soon. Sorry to hear about the crash but as you know cars come and go. We appreciate you being able to share with us.

Sorry to hear bout your situation. Hope yall get better soon.

OMG! I am so sorry to hear about your father. I really hope he makes it out okay.

Oh wow!! God speed to you and your dad!!! I hope he has a speedy recovery!!

It's a great to be able to walk away from such a accident.

Sorry to hear about ur incenent. But glad to see that ur ok. Hope ur dad has a fast recovery.

I think black 08 accord coupes are prone to get into car crashes... just look through this forum O.O

First I hope you and your Dad are fine.

These side airbags saved my life too on june 14th 2008 when I totaled my 07 accord. This was due to a negligent driver who changed lanes and hit me pushing me into the retainer. All airbags we deployed and THEY SAVED MY LIFE.

OP: hope you and your father have a speedy recovery. Hopefully everything turns out okay.

FZ6Biker: wow that was a horrible accident, I can't even imagine what that must have felt like.

Dad's!!! best wishes on a speedy and helthful recovery... I cant imagine what you and your family must be going through at this time..... Best wishes and Prayers...
G-d's Speed.....

That is very scary! Hope you and your dad make a full recovery.

Dadshouse08,

Like everyone else has said, hope you and your dad make a fun recovery. Nice to know we are driving cars we can walk away from in these circumstances.

Dad's!!! best wishes on a speedy and helthful recovery... I cant imagine what you and your family must be going through at this time..... Best wishes and Prayers...
G-d's Speed.....

It's a rough time right now I just filed for custody of my 5 year old twins and was going to get their ss cards from the town over when this happened rough times all around ..we will bounce back we are survivors and give my kids the BEST life which they deserve a safe home to live in. Thanks again to Everyone it is really nice to know that their are people out there who do care for others still!!
Thanks again,
Mario aka dadshouse....

Your family are in my thoughts and prayers as well.

I hope your father a safe and speedy recovery and I hope you get the custody of your twins. Being a responsible parent is such an important role in life and I wish you the best of luck.

Cars can be replaced. Honda will make more coupes.

Just thank god your kids werent in the car too!

Just thank god your kids werent in the car too!

Mario, Just know...... Youve got your sounding board here.... we're here....
:blush:

So sorry to hear about this... best wishes to you and your dad for a speedy recovery.

Just thank god your kids werent in the car too!
That's exactly what my father said as I was trying calling 911 thank God!

OOO hope your dad recovers man!! The car was soooo new also. But a life > Car ALWAYSS

My mom got hit by a drunk driver in a Jeep grand cherokee (she was at a complete stop at a red light) about 2 years ago. The guy completly totaled her 2000 Honda civic. The trunk was in the back seat. There was no back seat left. The car looked completly pancaked. She was on her way to my house to pick up my kids up to take them to Sunday mornining breakfast at IHOP. They would have been in the backseat. Trust me I know how your feeling. She got pretty banged up too and was in the hospital for a few days. Still has neck problems from that accident. The guy was a habitual drunk driver he had a work permit to drive to work. He got bailed out of jail and fleed the country. If he ever comes back he is going to jail for a few years. Only good thing out of it was the insurance paid her more than she bought the car for 3 years before. Low mileage mint condition. Civic's hold there value real good!

Thoughts and Prayers from my household also! :yes:

I1:(

I don't think it can be said too many times, wish you god speed and you both quick recovery

Let us know how it goes with your insurance and the lawyers

Mario, you are in our prayers as we wish for you and your Dad a speedy recovery. Like all others say, Honda will be making many more coupes. Keep your head up high and know that there are others who care and wish for only the best to you and your family.

Your neighbour to the North.

Wow....glad you and your dad are at least alive. I was in something similar 6 months ago(hence the reason I have an 08 accord now). I'm not sure if my side airbags deployed but luckily no one was in my passenger seat and even luckier for me the main impact happened on that side.

I miss my old car but I'm thankful I walked away with only a messed up hand and a banged up shoulder. Hope you guys recover well too. Dealing with attorney's ****.

where did this happen?

All the best of thoughts and prayers your way. God speed.

Being a paraplegic i know hard it is. My prayers for u and your father for a speedy recovery. If you need anything, feel free to private message me.

Hope all is well and hope your Dad turns out OK.

:( :(

where did this happen?

Route 4 just off 33 heading towards Marion...

Being a paraplegic i know hard it is. My prayers for u and your father for a speedy recovery. If you need anything, feel free to private message me.

I greatly appreciate the Prayers and all tough times are no fun at all...On the up n up an attorney is rep. both of is in this ...on the neg. side I am still waiting on a rental going on day 4 :( their ins. co (all-state) says they have to do their own investigation wth?? she was sited and they have the report ...3 kids and no car is now a good spot at all good thing for friends with 2 cars...good news for Dad no surgery just a small fracture in one of his vertebra... Released this evening still a long road ahead for both of us Damn aches and pains but, happy to be breathing....:yes:

Praise God, that's good new for your dad. the fracture should seal up w/ calcium. The sores and pains should subside soon. The insurance company should give cover you guys going to the chiropractor. I had a few accidents too and they did the same for me. Should ask them about it. Hope all goes well. Let me know if you need anything. God bless.

Thank God!!!
I am so happy that your dad is fine!
it could of been worse!!!
God spared your lives, you have an angel on your shoulders!
God bless and may God continue blessing your lives!!!!!!!!

hope you recover fast, this ****s, and wish your dad a fast recovery. sad ;(

whew, I was thinking about this thread, skipped the 1st page and went to the 2nd page onto the 9th page, was going to ask how the situation with your father is, but now that it was already said, I am SO glad to hear that he is fine...

Now to get this person back for doing the illegal, I honestly hope everything turns out fine and you can go back to how everything use to be :)

I hate seeing people in pain, physically and mentally - everyone must be happy!

whew, I was thinking about this thread, skipped the 1st page and went to the 2nd page onto the 9th page, was going to ask how the situation with your father is, but now that it was already said, I am SO glad to hear that he is fine...

Now to get this person back for doing the illegal, I honestly hope everything turns out fine and you can go back to how everything use to be :)

I hate seeing people in pain, physically and mentally - everyone must be happy!

Happiness is KEY in life and I try to remain positive.........

Glad to hear he is recovering and will make a good recovery.. Keep the faith... it can only get better from here..... :)

Route 4 just off 33 heading towards Marion...

Glad you and your Dad are gonna be okay.

I'm in Dublin, so not too far from you.... wishing you & your family the best.

I'm in Dublin, so not too far from you.... wishing you & your family the best.

Not far at all about 15 mins. the shop adjuster has said 8600.00 in damage :(:( I am gonna lose my azz on this one I hope I never want to sell it or trade it in...this stinks....and my front under spoiler is cracked and the adjuster is trying to say I hit a curb wth??? I park it miles away from curbs the only way it could have happened is the roll back did it pulling it up??? he is saying there is concrete pieces underneath??

WOW!!!
Did they tow it from the back of the car?
If thats the case, the concrete pieces would explain it.
IF they didnt, then the guy is trying to bust your chops.
Keep fussing with them.
Good luck man!
I feel your pain!!!!!

Since the other driver's insurance is paying, you don't have to go with what their adjuster says. You can take it to some other shop that is willing to quote the front lip too.

wow, america is only cool until someone tries to screw you, like people will sue someone for the stupidest reason, "Coffee too hot, I'M SUE-ING!" or the guy who tried to sue dell b/c the "Laptop" burned his private material [lost because it was called a "Notebook"]

Just keep going at him, i think hell eventually reduce the price, and see if someone else has a lower price, might work! [I have never done this before, so my ideas might be stupid but meh, seems reasonable! :)]

wow, america is only cool until someone tries to screw you, like people will sue someone for the stupidest reason, "Coffee too hot, I'M SUE-ING!" or the guy who tried to sue dell b/c the "Laptop" burned his private material [lost because it was called a "Notebook"]

Just keep going at him, i think hell eventually reduce the price, and see if someone else has a lower price, might work! [I have never done this before, so my ideas might be stupid but meh, seems reasonable! :)]

I agree it seems as if everyone is out to get each other so we must protect and look out for our families....still waitin on All-states adjuster to look at it:paranoid:

That is sad, not so much for the car but for family. A big "get well" for your dad!

Now, here is something I noticed. It appears that on a side collision the 8th generation isn't all that safe. From the injury reported by our colleauge member, a spine injury, I think that the side impact actually shocked the seat very badly. Not sure if you follow my logic, but if the side of the car was smaller this wouldn't have happened and it would have been more compact. Some may argue that the bigger the car the more the shock gets absorbed, well that is wrong! The bigger the car the more unpredictable how it will react to such collision!

One more mistake made by Honda, to increase the size of the coupe to ridiculusly unmanageable proportions. They should go back to the size of the 7th or even 6th generation. Just like the size of the Altima coupe for example that is more structurally compact and manageable.

I was thinking the same thing as Tony just recently. In a side impact collision, a coupe has much less lateral support at the front seat area than a sedan. My contention is that if Dad's car was a sedan, it would be more likely that his father might have had less severe injuries - at least in the particular accident that occurred this time around. By design, the door will give a whole lot more than a solid unibody frame - and whether that caused the injury to be worse than from a sedan, it's purely speculation - but I'm wondering if it was a factor?

I know that in my Montego, that it has the side-impact technology in the Volvo S80's - where there are structural bars under the front seats - in line with the b-pillar areas - to keep the body integrity in place during a side impact - and if you look at the IIHS tapes of Volvo side impacts, and most sedan impacts in general, they hold up pretty well (especially for the front seat occupants). Coupes tend to have a lot more intrusion to those passengers (but in turn, protect the rear seat passengers a bit better.

Again - glad that everyone is going to be OK!

andy

aside from the injuries which will take time to recover from....Does anyone have any sugestions for me on the car...they are saying 8600.00 damage on a 28k car which only had 3000 miles on it :( what am I supposed to do if I ever want to trade it in now ...Am I screwed???:dunno:anywhere I try to trade will rip me how do I get compensated here? This was not my fault and I want my NEW car back...Any help here ?? does anyone have any experienced sugestions on this one? Thanks again for all the support...btw. going on day 6 no rental ...her ins. says they have to do there own internal investigation now that I am attorney repd. to determine fault even though they have the same crash report I have which states she was cited and admitted guilt WTH???

Be very careful with Allstate. They're absolutely the worst company I ever dealt with as far as accidents go. I was hit this past Memorial Day and they're still giving me the around despite being 100% liable. They are totally non-responsive and take forever. To date, I’ve spoken to 8 different people there and am getting nothing resolved. Go to http://allstateinsurance****s.com and read some of the horror stories. I've been fighting with them for over 2 months and am getting nowhere. The tow truck driver also mentioned how bad they are as well as my insurance co's body shop. Absolutely make sure you document every conversation with them. Also, should they total your car out, they'll stop payment on the rental the day they present their offer to you -- even though it will be another 2+ weeks till you get your check. I'm glad to hear you already have a lawyer.

I couldn’t wait for them to “investigate” and had to get a rental out-of-pocket. They agreed to reimburse me for it, however, they still have not done so. So I'm still owed roughly $1,000. I was in a rental car for well over a month..

I'd consider getting an independent adjustor to take a look at the car – the anti-allstate website has some listed if you don't know any. Also, be sure to demand OEM parts and seriously consider not using their body shop. Some of the shops they “recommend” do horrible work because of what Allstate agrees to pay.

Be very careful with Allstate. They're absolutely the worst company I ever dealt with as far as accidents go. I was hit this past Memorial Day and they're still giving me the around despite being 100% liable. They are totally non-responsive and take forever. To date, I’ve spoken to 8 different people there and am getting nothing resolved. Go to http://allstateinsurance****s.com and read some of the horror stories. I've been fighting with them for over 2 months and am getting nowhere. The tow truck driver also mentioned how bad they are as well as my insurance co's body shop. Absolutely make sure you document every conversation with them. Also, should they total your car out, they'll stop payment on the rental the day they present their offer to you -- even though it will be another 2+ weeks till you get your check. I'm glad to hear you already have a lawyer.

I couldn’t wait for them to “investigate” and had to get a rental out-of-pocket. They agreed to reimburse me for it, however, they still have not done so. So I'm still owed roughly $1,000. I was in a rental car for well over a month..

I'd consider getting an independent adjustor to take a look at the car – the anti-allstate website has some listed if you don't know any. Also, be sure to demand OEM parts and seriously consider not using their body shop. Some of the shops they “recommend” do horrible work because of what Allstate agrees to pay.

OMG:jawdrop::jawdrop: that site makes me want to VOMIT...wow I am in a mess now...........

Hmm - I've had allstate since the late 70's and never had an issue with a claim nor any coverage of rentals, etc. Not sure if the ins. industry here in NH is different than other states - but their claims process is fast and, even in the case of accidents where we were at fault (a couple of times over the years), the compensated the other party quickly and covered the rental promptly. Maybe I'm just lucky - but Allstate has been priced competitively with even Amica and Geico, and done everything we've ever asked via a claim.

On the subject of repairing your car - this is (unfortunately) one of the issues of getting into an accident. In theory, your car's value at a future trade shouldn't suffer if the repair is done competently - it carries no salvage title, and as far as an insurance or financial adjuster would be concerned, it would have the same value as if it hadn't been in an accident. Now, in terms of a private sale, you might reduce your bottom line or potential buyers since they'd see the carfax report, but in terms of a cash value perspective to a dealer, it shouldn't matter a whole lot. The real question is whether you want to keep the car after the repair - and that's something you'll have to decide. You may take a $$ hit on this - and unfortunately, it's just bad luck no matter how you look at it. Any of us could get t-boned or run off the road tomorrow and be in the same situation. Not sure what other advice to offer....

andy

aside from the injuries which will take time to recover from....Does anyone have any sugestions for me on the car...they are saying 8600.00 damage on a 28k car which only had 3000 miles on it :( what am I supposed to do if I ever want to trade it in now ...Am I screwed???:dunno:anywhere I try to trade will rip me how do I get compensated here? This was not my fault and I want my NEW car back...Any help here ?? does anyone have any experienced sugestions on this one? Thanks again for all the support...btw. going on day 6 no rental ...her ins. says they have to do there own internal investigation now that I am attorney repd. to determine fault even though they have the same crash report I have which states she was cited and admitted guilt WTH???

since you have retained counsel I suggest your attorney write some letters and make some calls. He/she is going to get paid when AllState settles, make him earn his money.

Hmm - I've had allstate since the late 70's and never had an issue with a claim nor any coverage of rentals, etc. Not sure if the ins. industry here in NH is different than other states - but their claims process is fast and, even in the case of accidents where we were at fault (a couple of times over the years), the compensated the other party quickly and covered the rental promptly. Maybe I'm just lucky - but Allstate has been priced competitively with even Amica and Geico, and done everything we've ever asked via a claim.

On the subject of repairing your car - this is (unfortunately) one of the issues of getting into an accident. In theory, your car's value at a future trade shouldn't suffer if the repair is done competently - it carries no salvage title, and as far as an insurance or financial adjuster would be concerned, it would have the same value as if it hadn't been in an accident. Now, in terms of a private sale, you might reduce your bottom line or potential buyers since they'd see the carfax report, but in terms of a cash value perspective to a dealer, it shouldn't matter a whole lot. The real question is whether you want to keep the car after the repair - and that's something you'll have to decide. You may take a $$ hit on this - and unfortunately, it's just bad luck no matter how you look at it. Any of us could get t-boned or run off the road tomorrow and be in the same situation. Not sure what other advice to offer....

andy

Thanks Andy and as you said in theory but, not to likely .......And why should someone's GRAVE mistake cost me a CENT?? guess thats what the attorney will be for:dunno:

since you have retained counsel I suggest your attorney write some letters and make some calls. He/she is going to get paid when AllState settles, make him earn his money.

I agree lol but, still upset as we all would be I guess and in pain damn muscle relaxers ****!!!

I agree lol but, still upset as we all would be I guess and in pain damn muscle relaxers ****!!!

My experience is they will only work as hard as you work 'em.

My experience is they will only work as hard as you work 'em.

For health reasons, please dont overdose on any kind of medication. It would do more harm than good.

For health reasons, please dont overdose on any kind of medication. It would do more harm than good.

LOL, no overdosin here I think he was refering to the lawyer....To many responsibilities to go out like that :biggrin::yes::biggrin:

Very sorry to read all of this, but glad to see that you and your dad both got out of it without massive injury or lengthy hospital stays. Still, a cracked vertebra is no joke :(

As far as the damage to the car, the fact that you have an attorney will be helpful. I was reading the "The Claims Game" link on the allstate****s site. It seems that in a lot of states if the damage to your car exceeds $2000 but doesn't total it, you can claim "diminished value" in addition to the cost of repairs, because the car will really be worth less than it was before the wreck. I would definitely ask the attorney about that.

I have only had two auto insurance claims myself, but I guess if I have any advice to give it would be: be firm dealing with the insurance company, and be patient. The property damage (your car) claim will probably get settled quickly, but the medical stuff will take a whole lot longer.

My first wreck was in December of 1991, it was totally my fault: I rear ended a little Volkswagen hatchback at a red light. Both cars were totally drivable afterwards and nobody was seriously injured, but she sued me for everything they could think of: whiplash, lost wages, even consortium damages. My insurance company at the time (Nationwide) handled the whole thing, and I got a letter from them in the spring of 1994 that the claim had been settled -- over two years after the accident.

The other wreck I had was in 1998, I spun my Taurus out on some black ice on a twisty country road, and totaled it against a tree. No injuries and no other people or vehicles involved. The entire claims process was completed in less than a month, and the insurance company (Nationwide again) wound up giving me more money than I owed on the car. I was calling the adjuster pretty much every single day, though, to make sure everything was moving forward.

Anyway, hang in there, and don't accept anything less than you deserve.

I hope all will go well in all respects and for a full recovery.

I went over to the Gov't crash rating site and it noted that the 4 door accord only has a 3 star rating for rear passengers and 5 for just the front. The 2 door has a 5 front rating but only a 4 side rating. I own a 4 door and am very concerned about my rear passenger ratings-as low or lower than my corolla.
So a larger car seems not to be as safe as I thought.

safecar.gov

Still waiting for a rental going on week 2 this stuff amazes me:dunno: So far safe auto has looked at the car 8600 adjuster...and allstate has not even called the shop wth? They told me my attorney has to talk to them since I am repd? so more or less quit calling...what's the point of insurance I may as well have been hit by a non insured person at this point...

Like mentioned, you need to have your attorney going to bat for you aggressively. He/she should be pushing the rental issue for you right now.

You might want to spend some time looking at body shop options now as well. Check the BBB for complaints against the dealer(s) if that's where you're going. Or, talk to folks on reputable shops in the area. It is your right to specify where the car gets repaired and to stipulate new Honda OEM parts especially since it's new.

And most importantly, make sure you and your Dad are getting good medical attention.

On the potential $$ loss: Gap insurance is the only means I know of to help protect against some of this. This is coverage of the car's value compared to what you owe. If your car were totaled, Allstate would only pay retail value of the car before damaged. If you still owed more...which many do when financing a new car...the Gap coverage would pay it. Ask you attorney if there is any other recourse on private party depeciation resulting from the event. Check the internet, too...but be csreful of some of the info just like anything else on the web.

Try not to spend too much time worrying vs trying to be as constructive as possible with the situation at hand. That's easier said than done but you have to look out for yourself from your own mind sometimes. Work on feeling better, be thankful, and good luck.

Like mentioned, you need to have your attorney going to bat for you aggressively. He/she should be pushing the rental issue for you right now.

You might want to spend some time looking at body shop options now as well. Check the BBB for complaints against the dealer(s) if that's where you're going. Or, talk to folks on reputable shops in the area. It is your right to specify where the car gets repaired and to stipulate new Honda OEM parts especially since it's new.

And most importantly, make sure you and your Dad are getting good medical attention.

On the potential $$ loss: Gap insurance is the only means I know of to help protect against some of this. This is coverage of the car's value compared to what you owe. If your car were totaled, Allstate would only pay retail value of the car before damaged. If you still owed more...which many do when financing a new car...the Gap coverage would pay it. Ask you attorney if there is any other recourse on private party depeciation resulting from the event. Check the internet, too...but be csreful of some of the info just like anything else on the web.

Try not to spend too much time worrying vs trying to be as constructive as possible with the situation at hand. That's easier said than done but you have to look out for yourself from your own mind sometimes. Work on feeling better, be thankful, and good luck.
Thanks :) I had the attorney send a rep. sheet over to the agent so now I guess I wait....I have researched diminished value some and not sure how it works in Ohio? Trying to be as constructive as possible going on week 2 outta work so its not to easy to sit here and get no where spinnin wheels...I guess Patiently waiting is it.