Does anyone know why this is offered on the Sedan and not the Coupe as a dealer installed accessory?

As far as I can tell, the camera will work in the coupe. The harness to tap into for the sedan exists in the coupe with NAVI also. The problem is, once you hook the camera up, there is no where to mount it. The license plate is in the bumper, so the camera would be mounted so low that it would not give a good perspective to the driver (and would have to be mounted off center as the license plate light is in the center of the opening). I have been thinking about buying it anyways though. Id rather have a poor view of whats behind me than no view. I have yet to hear of anyone sucessfully installing one in a coupe though, so try at your own risk.

You may want to consider an after market rear view. I am not all that impressed with the OEM version I have on my 08 Sedan.

During the day it's very washed out and it picks up significant glare.

At night is when it actually works best. I am really suprised with the amount of light its able to capture, and I live on a street with no street lights.

heres what I did and no, It doesnt violate any laws, ASt least in Fl it doesnt....

I put the factory Rear Camera on my coupe and it works excellent. The plug is in the same place as the sedan (behind the glove box). I used the included bracket and mounted it to the very top of the license plate. This puts it back and out of the way from glare and it's mounted high enough that it's difficult to see unless you are looking for it. The view from inside is perfect. The camera has such a wide field of vision that it's perfect for a rear vision aide.

do you have pics of where you mounted it or how the picture quality is?

I used an aftermarket CCDTV license plate mounted rear view wide angle cam with IR in the rear. I also installed 1 in the front lower grill area. I will post pics and vid soon...

I put the factory Rear Camera on my coupe and it works excellent. The plug is in the same place as the sedan (behind the glove box). I used the included bracket and mounted it to the very top of the license plate. This puts it back and out of the way from glare and it's mounted high enough that it's difficult to see unless you are looking for it. The view from inside is perfect. The camera has such a wide field of vision that it's perfect for a rear vision aide.

I would also love to see your install pics of this...

A little problem im having is the tag light glares into the camera at night and makes it hard to see. I have to figure out a way to wire the tag light so it turns off when the car is in reverse.

Jblaust: Where did you mount the front camera? I assume you have a separate switch to activate it.

The front camera is always on when the car is on. I just switcxh source on the head unit to aux and I have the front camera view while im driving. I just installed the front camera today. Very cool!

Any pictures of front and back install would be appreciated. Thank you.

Here is a couple of pictures of my factory camera on my coupe. Super easy installation and while I had all the trim panels off I put down some dynamat just to tighten it up a little.
Sorry for the poor quality. These are from my phone.
The plug for the factory camera (if you have NAV) is in the same place as the instructions say for the sedan. Just plugged it in, modified the mount a little and buttoned it up. Picture is excellent and with it being high at the license plate, I don't get any glare. The picture at night is really good too. I have limo on my back window and the camera gets plenty of light from the reverse lights.
I've done the aftermarket cameras on all my vehicles and it always seems to be a PITA to retrofit them and get everything working properly. I know there's some nice cameras out there, but Honda has already made it easy to install. Gotta put a value on your time/hassle.

I will try to get some better pictures with my camera.

Hey Texasmontego, have a few questions for you; hope you don't mind:

- How much did you pay for the camera and where?

- From the functional standpoint, all you did was plug it behind the glovebox (which means no tapping into reverse wiring, power, etc)?

- Does it work on the 6MT?

- How did you route the cable? Please state which panels you had to remove, and how you mounted the camera (drilling, etc). Thanks buddy.
JC

Texasmontego..... thanks for the valuable info and pics as this will be a great addition. Looks like there is plenty of view from the stock camera, better then the limited view out of a tinted window.. :thmsup:

Hey Texasmontego, have a few questions for you; hope you don't mind:

- How much did you pay for the camera and where?

- From the functional standpoint, all you did was plug it behind the glovebox (which means no tapping into reverse wiring, power, etc)?

- Does it work on the 6MT?

- How did you route the cable? Please state which panels you had to remove, and how you mounted the camera (drilling, etc). Thanks buddy.
JC


Great questions elp.... I was going to ask the same ones...

Doesn't look like its all that complicated to get working, which is awesome....
$320.00 from accessories-honda.com
http://www.accessories-honda.com/store/index.php/cPath/21_127_130

http://www.accessories-honda.com/store/images/ACS_Sensors-2.jpg

elp_jc - I paid around $300 (I know someone), but H and A definitely has the best price around from what I've seen.
- Oh man, I bought the camera not knowing the plug was already there. I was prepared to pull the radio and figure it out, but after reading the instructions I kind of figured they would already wire them due to the fact that it's the same radio from the sedan. The guy at the dealer said it won't work, but I just shook my head and said, watch and learn.

You can see if you have the plug on your 6MT by opening the glove box and releasing the shock on the right hand side (it snaps into the door, so rotate it up towards the dash and it will pop loose). Look inside the glove box area and up to the lefthand corner you should see it taped to a support. I'm sure you will have it.
I was amazed how easy the installation was. I pulled off the passenger's kickpanel, door sill and took out the liner from the trunk. I didn't remove the rear seat trim as you can snake the wires behind it.
I started from the bumper and worked to the front. There is a grommet already in the trunk that exits to the license plate. If I remember correctly it's the same wire as the license plate lights. Routed it around the trunk on the pass side, went behind the rear seat trim and up along the door sill to the kick panel. From there I went up to the glove box and over to the plug. The way the kit comes you have to insert the pins into the connector once you get to the glove box area. This made it really easy to snake the wires. Just tape up the ends so they don't get damaged.

Plugged it in, tested it, then neatened everything up.
For the mount, all I did was turn it over and screwed it to the license plate. It could go up higher, but would hit the plate light. I bent the plate a little to bring up the view, but was easy. Just make sure you put the mount on before you run the cable. I did the mount last and had to cut it to fit it over the wire.

I have to give it Honda for making their wiring so easy. I also put in the LED interior lights and Remote Start. Those harnesses matched up perfectly and plugged right in. Definitely the easiest installation of accessories I've ever done.

I've had cameras from HitchCAM and other manufactures on passed vehicles and the Honda cam is still cheaper ($$) plus it works flawless. I always had to modify the camera or wiring because something was always wrong with the aftermarket cameras.

Hope this helps.

so you wanna help a fellow texan out...........lol

texasmontego, you are the man! You are the first that I have found that has done this and got it working properly for the coupe, and I am thankful that you did. Now to order the parts...

So the plate light doesn't distort the picture on the nav screen from what you have seen? And if you can post better pix of the plate part so we can see the details, that would be great.

No, the plate light actually adds to the camera. I'll take some better pictures today and also take a picture of the camera at night.

Teasmontego: How did you modify the OEM camera bracket? What did you attached it to?

i just installed the honda camera and it wasnt too bad. I chose to mount it to the plastic piece that holds the license plate light as not to block the light shining on my plate and to make it as "factory" of an install as possible. I work at a dealership and i was the ginuea pig to see if we could start selling these, and we didnt want to have to mount them to the license plate (when you get rid of your car and take the plate off, the camera would just hang there). I think it would have been less visible from behind if i mounted it in the plate, but overall, i think it turned out nice. I mounted the factory mount to a piece of back-strap so that it would line up with the plastic piece i mounted it to. also, i think i might take it off and either paint the backstrap black or cover it in electrical tape.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/ufmike316/011-2.jpg
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http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/ufmike316/016.jpg
above: the gromit in the trunk to run the camera wire through
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/ufmike316/017.jpg
above: the factory connection for the harness behind the glovebox
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That looks great!! maybe I will look into it very shortly... but not looking forward to wiring it up to the front... lot of work...

it wasnt that bad. i spent about 20 minutes making the mounting bracket, and less than an hour to run all the cable and mount it.

Yeah routing the cable through the cabin (removing the panels) is what I hate... no matter how careful you are, there is always one panel that ends up with a scratch or two.... BUT I just realized how similar our profile pics are... NICE!

Good job guys. Can't tell the first trunk picture where it was shot from. It that the rear of the trunk, just above the license plate, or one side?

And did you have to remove the bumper to do the install? I was wondering installing the 'back-strap' bracket inside the bumper, so it's not visible. Same effect, no? Or it can even be a solid piece of thin metal (sold at Home Depot). Will debate if the money and trouble are worth having a camera I don't really need. And if I can't drop the stupid glove box to look for the harness (6MT), I won't even consider it. If anybody has a picture of the darn shock removed, please post it because I can't remove it and can't figure out how it's attached. Thx.
Seems like most Nav systems have a camera, but as somebody said, not looking forward to remove panels on this car, where clips break easily, and plastic parts feel like they're going to break. Not for the faint of heart <he he>. Later.
JC

to remove the "shock" on the glove box, just push hard towards the front of the car and down and it will un snap. then push both sidewalls towards eachother and pull the glove box down whole pushing the walls towards eachother. as far as moutning the backstrap inside the bumper, i suppose if you took the bumper off, the plastic piece i mounted the camera to does look removable. Once removed im sure that piece could be modded. i didnt feel like dropping the rear bumper off and messing with it though. as its mounted now, the top of the bracket sits nearly flush with the plastic light cover for the license plate light.

Very nice job, ufmike316, but it is lower than texasmontego's camera that is more hidden, but great work nonetheless.

Great job ufmike316. No matter how you mount the camera it just shows the easy of this installation. Honda has already done the hard work for us.

Here are a couple of pics of my version. Looks like both versions yield the same camera picture/angle.

Great job and great pix, the both of you guys, ufmike316 & texasmontego. I'm waiting for my kit to arrive so that I can get this started myself. Well done! Oh yeah, texasmontego, were you going to post pix of the nav screen when you back up at night? I'm curious how the video looks when the light shines on the lens, because I'm wondering if I need to do the same mod as jblaust did with turning off the light when backing up.

heres a night pic of the camera. it really pics up light. the reverse lights come out really bright on the screen.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/ufmike316/008-1.jpg

Great work guys.... thanks for all the info and pics, this will be my next mod...
Gunna order it up tonight


Here is the Installation instructions in case anyone wanted them...
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/instructions/8thgenaccsedan/rearcamera.pdf

Can't beat a mod that is basically a plug/play version.
I like the one comment that the dealer said it wouldn't work. How many times have I heard that from the parts counter??? Doesn't matter the brand, they all say that because they lack vision or knowledge, (some are very smart and some....well...).
I was all in on doing this and other 'dealer installed' mods since they should be all ready to do or the dealer wouldn't bother.
Anyone ask just for kicks what the labor rate would have been on this mod?

Nice job guys and great pics but I have a question...

Instead of mounting the camera to the license plate with hardware fasteners why not mount the camera to a metal flange, use some 3M double stick tape and mount it to the back of the plate so when the plate is installed, it would wedge the camera flange between the plate and bumper?

You could still bend it for an optimum angle but there would be no visible hardware fasteners. Just a thought, otherwise nice work!

there is nothing behind the plate to mount the camera to. there is a large hole behind the plate that extends up to where the plate light shines in.

there is nothing behind the plate to mount the camera to. there is a large hole behind the plate that extends up to where the plate light shines in.

Right, but the hole is only at the top of the plate. The metal flange could extend down below the center of the plate for support.

Well..... I mounted the camera, and ran the cable up to the front with no problems..... removed the glove box and kick panel and I have been looking for over an hour and clearly the harness is not in the same place as the 08's. I can't find it anywhere. I'm giving up for now, I buttoned it all back up and I'll wait to see comes up after I talk with my dealer to see if there were any changes, but I have plenty of extra cable length in case they moved the location on the 09. I will try to take some pics when I get a chance... Seriously bummed right now...

Here is the pic from ufmike's and that harness is not there on my car...
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/ufmike316/017.jpg

the harness is taped with black tape and is hard to see. i had to cut the tape for the harness to be where it is in the picture. its kind of hidden, but i cant imagine its different on the 09 from the 08

Warpdrv: Sorry you are having problems. When you are settled let me know how you mounted the camera. Thanks.

the harness is taped with black tape and is hard to see. i had to cut the tape for the harness to be where it is in the picture. its kind of hidden, but i cant imagine its different on the 09 from the 08

Thats exactly what I was thinking, couldn't believe it would be different, but I untaped a bunch of stuff up in there and couldn't find it... Seriously cut my hands up diggin around in there. I own a service garage, and I'm going to have my head mechanic dig around in there today if he has time... I also have a cylinder camera so I can probe around in there easier, its just not visible or it would be done by now. I hope I'm wrong on this and I'm just blind. :dunno:

Warpdrv: Sorry you are having problems. When you are settled let me know how you mounted the camera. Thanks.

Hey j-ro.... I mounted mine exactly like texasmontego did.... altered the bracket by turning it upside down and drilling holes to mate with camera. Then I drilled holes in my license plate and made a backing piece of metal to go behind the plate for strength. I used stainless bolts with stainless airplane nuts. Then just put the Plate back on the car. I bent the bracket a bit to increase upward viewing angle, but If I want to change the angle any more or less I just bend license plate ever so slightly now.

Thanks Warpdrv. Hope you fine the plug.

Good conversation . . . dont know how I've missed this thread.

Next question: Has someone tried to figure out the wiring in the harnes to tap in an aftermarket camera. I'd do this in a heartbeat but $300 is a bit much for me right now.

Since two people have already installed the cam, it's obvious that it works, but for some reason dealers want nothing to do with this. I called around trying to get an idea of what the cost would be to install it, and every dealer kept telling me that the camera absolutely will not work for the coupe. I don't get it. Is it because of liability issues? It seems like the only bump in the road is finding a decent place to mount it. I guess if you have a coupe and want the back up camera you're on your own to install it.

The Install is a breeze, took me 1 hour to fabricate and mount the camera and run the cable, but in my particular scenario (2009), I just haven't been able to locate the plug under the dash.

It really is a simple mod....

i just checked a 2009 coupe with navi and the plug is there, clear as day. I have no idea why yours isnt there. Just so i know youre looking for the correct thing, it is a white clip that is taped to a wiing harness. the wiring harness (sold seprately from the camera) plugs into the clip.

i just checked a 2009 coupe with navi and the plug is there, clear as day. I have no idea why yours isnt there. Just so i know youre looking for the correct thing, it is a white clip that is taped to a wiing harness. the wiring harness (sold seprately from the camera) plugs into the clip.

I spoke with H&A on the phone and they emailed me the '09 install guide and its the same as well....
I see exactly by your pic which harness its supposed to be coming out of clear as day.... This isn't a Rocket Scientist job here, it for sure not there...

Me and my head mechanic looked all over above where that harness goes as well... I'm thinking that whoever taped up this particular harness didn't run the plug where its supposed to be, its probably buried back there somewhere... grrr.. Not sure where to go from here.... :dunno:

at this point, go to the audio and electronics forum, there is a sticky thread explaining how to take the head unit out. i took mine out to install my ipod adapter, its not too difficult. once the head unit is out, see if you can see the clip back there. it has to be there, because its part of the wiring harness for the electronics (honda has one very intriquite and complex harness that is all connected together, it may not be where its supposed to be, but its all part of the same harness)

Thats exactly what I figured would be my next step, so I will try to tackle that this weekend... So much for the simple install on the camera.. I'm not giving up just yet... I'll find that sucker !!!! Just a bit pissed, if I had my camera here at work I would have taken pictures.... Had the flexible fiber optic video scope/monitor and we were probing all over back there to see where it might be too... :dunno:

well it has to be there somewhere. i work at a honda dealership and looked at an 09 today and it was right there where mine was, so its definately in the 09's harness. it must have just not been taped in place.

well it has to be there somewhere. i work at a honda dealership and looked at an 09 today and it was right there where mine was, so its definately in the 09's harness. it must have just not been taped in place.

Agreed.... Just my luck buddy... :headbash:

I installed mine and ran the wires last night. Easy as pie. Works great. :)

Interior pieces I removed: Trunk floor cover, trunk bay interior trim that lines the rear bumper, passenger side kick panel, passenger side door trim, glove box area under-cover, glove box.

Interior pieces I loosened or pulled out a bit to run the wires: Rear seat cushion, rear passenger side interior trim, passenger side weather stripping

I also had to fold down the rear seats a bit to run the wires if that helps.

Here is the install instructions for the rear camera in the sedan. Sounds like people used this as a guide for installing the camera in the coupe.

http://www.collegehillshonda.com/instructions/8thgenaccsedan/rearcamera.pdf

Would you guys know the pint out for the factory harness? basically I am trying to wire an aftermarket camera to the factory harness so that I can use the factory navi screen...

thanks

I have the same problem with Warpdrv, i can't find the connector.
08 coupe V6 MT.
:dunno:

Just had mine installed Saturday, the plug was waaaay back in the dash.

Dark Shark is it possible for you to be more precise, where is it? can i reach it from the glovebox ?
Thanks.

Dark Shark is it possible for you to be more precise, where is it? can i reach it from the glovebox ?
Thanks.

Yes, it can be reached from the glove box. It is toward the upper left and mine was covered with black tape. You may need a flash light and some pliers to extract it.

That's what i have, and i can't find this connector:dunno:

guy I just bought an 09 coupe w/navi... I'll try to see if I can find this tomorrow for you in the day time (just to confirm that another 09 really does have it)

Chris were you able to locate the plug?

Also I'm thinking of changing the mounting of my camera. I have it mounted right underneath the bumper like UFMike, but I think it needs to be more recessed and discreet. If I am in the city have to parallel park, the slightest bumper to bumper contact could damage the camera. Mounting it on top of the license plate is an option but I don't want the plate light to blind the camera. I may just end up drilling a hole in the license plate like JamieJam.

Anybody doing this on a manual car? What makes the nav read the camera?

Does the factory design it so it comes on when in reverse?.........thanks....

Will also check mine to see if I can find the white connector.

Anybody doing this on a manual car? What makes the nav read the camera?

Does the factory design it so it comes on when in reverse?.........thanks....

The camera's connection to the factory installed harnest activates the camera. When you shift into reverse the the Nav screen switches to the camera's view.

No, i was not able to locate the harness. I ordered this kit http://www.princessauto.com/tools/automotive-tools/autobody/8003717-5-pc-trim-remover-set

and i am going to connect on the navigation display unit, see picture.

what do you guys think of this?
http://www.crutchfield.com/g_277650/Rear-view-Cameras.html?tp=83

what do you guys think of this?
http://www.crutchfield.com/g_277650/Rear-view-Cameras.html?tp=83

Think of what? There's like 20 items on that page. If you mean the license plate cover for the camera, it's says that it is designed for the alpine camera and most of us have the OEM Tao camera.

sorry boss i thoguht the link went directly to the alpine frame ,and i dont know why i thought it came with a camera and wasnt' just a mount kit.

sorry boss i thoguht the link went directly to the alpine frame ,and i dont know why i thought it came with a camera and wasnt' just a mount kit.

Further down on the page, there is a camera actually built into the license plate frame for $249 seems pretty sleek but I wonder it would be compatible with our car's set up. If I hadn't already dropped the cash on the Honda Camera, I might seriously consider this.

I was right, there was no connection coming out of the Navigation Display Unit so I took some connection pins out of 3 1/2 floppy power connector and I put them in the empty holes of the Navigation Display Unit connector. I bought this
camera http://www.boyovta.com/products/license_plate_camera/vtl120.html (it is at 150$ here in Canada). And everything is working very very well. I am very satisfied.

I was right, there was no connection coming out of the Navigation Display Unit so I took some connection pins out of 3 1/2 floppy power connector and I put them in the empty holes of the Navigation Display Unit connector. I bought this
camera http://www.boyovta.com/products/license_plate_camera/vtl120.html (it is at 150$ here in Canada). And everything is working very very well. I am very satisfied.

Good Deal! I'm glad that your frustrations had a happy ending. Post some pics!

Well after much time, I finally got the chance to get this going today, I ran into the same problem as chris001, there is no harness coming off the Navi screen on my car, the pins on the connector were empty...

I have the Honda Camera, and we ended up carefully removing the pins from the camera connector and inserting them into the Navi Connector, PAIN in the @$$....

Found the colors don't match up but found the proper pin out configuration (attached) Bottom right and top right of pic show Navi and Camera harness colors.

Camera wires ------ Navi Connector

Black -----------------> #11
Brown ----------------> #12
Yellow ----------------> #13
Red ------------------> #26
White ----------------> #27
Blue ------------------> #28

Chris01,

Does the camera put a guard line into the picture for reference to distance?

Has anyone had the camera installed by the dealer? How much was the installation? I am not all that good with doing things myself...

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Has anyone had the camera installed by the dealer? How much was the installation? I am not all that good with doing things myself...

och, you don't have your car listed, is it a coupe or a sedan...?

From what I understand, the dealer won't install in the coupe, as its not an option for that car, that is why everyone is doing it themselves....

For a sedan, you just gotta call and get a price... :)

any other pics of the camera mounted on the rear of the coupe?

Those who bought the oem rear camera kit, what exactly comes with the required accessory kit for another 120.00 bucks?

I want this but I've got so much shit on the back of my coupe already... Well one thing... my laser shifter...

anyone in nyc wana help install mine ? :)

So basically what I learned from reading this thread is that the Coupe 6-6 Manual Transmission doesn't have the harness behind the glove, correct?

Anyone know if its the same for the 7th Gen with Nav (no connector?)

Here is a picture of the OEM camera installed on my coupe.

Hey guys: 3 questions.

Is there any drilling whatsoever required for the coupe ? The sedan uinstructiones include drilling.

Does installing the camera on the coupe void any factory warranty or is it pretty much a gray area?

Is it necessary to unplug the car battery before attempting this? I don't want to reenter the radio/nav codes again.

Thanks!

There is no drilling required unless you decide to make a bracket and attach it to your license plate. I didn't unplug the battery and as far the warranty is concerned, I can't see how it would void it becasue the camera is compatible with the car's system and it is an OEM product.

Thanks Dark Shark.

Hmm I went to this site.

http://www.cheaphondaparts.com/proddetail.php?prod=ASRearVCNO

and I see that the camera is $205, but it says it requires rearview camera attachment kit? WHat is that all about. I would think that the camera purchase gives you everything you need to mount the camera.

The harness, plug in and the neccesary wiring are sold seperately from the camera.

Ahh...THanks.

I assume that is why College Hills Honda is selling it for $340. It says camera kit, instead of just camera.

http://www.collegehillshonda.com/honda-accord-sedan-accessories/2008-2010-accord-electronics.htm

I was wondering why there's a price difference of $135 between the two sites.

I just found a few cameras on Ebay. Cant decide between the two:

1) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260450041040

2) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280334436186

Any idea?

I was wondering if anyone has an answer on how to make, buy, fabricate, or splice into the factory connector for an aftermarket Camera installation? I have installed the Kenwood CCD-2000 on new Tahoes, Silverados, and lately on a 2008 Honda Ridgeline. I got the information on how to make a connector for the ridgeline at ridgelineownersclub. I just bought my wife an 08 accord sedan with nav. I want to install the ccd-2000 camera. However, how can i get it to plugh and play with the factory harness behind the glove box?

If the answer is out there I apologize. I have been reading and will continue to read but I thought i would ask in hopes for a quick response. Thanks in advance.

The problem is, once you hook the camera up, there is no where to mount it on the COUPE. The license plate is in the bumper, so the camera would be mounted so low that it would not give a good perspective to the driver (and would have to be mounted off center as the license plate light is in the center of the opening. I have yet to hear of anyone sucessfully installing one in a coupe though, so try at your own risk.

My thoughts are the same! Has anyone come up with a SOLUTION for this?

My thoughts are the same! Has anyone come up with a SOLUTION for this?


My solution is I have been driving for 30 years without a "rear view" camera and never hit anything.......