View Full Version : HIDs and Coupe lights on a sedan?
ortcele 09-14-2008, 04:19 PM What’s up members hope everyone had a good weekend. This is my question I know that some coupes or all come with projector style head lights. I also know that the correct way to install HIDs on sedans is to use projector style headlight housing. So could 08 09 sedan owners just install coupe head lights pop in Hids and call it a day??? Yes I know ordering factory head lights might not be practical economically.
Still can it be done?
spikeitaudi 09-14-2008, 04:21 PM No. The housing are different shapes.
Marc08EX 09-14-2008, 04:38 PM No. The housing are different shapes.
+1. If you have the money, you can do a coupe front end conversion which would require buying the coupe front fenders, hood, headlights, bumper and grille. I'm not sure if they would fit though.
AgentWashington 09-14-2008, 04:41 PM +1. If you have the money, you can do a coupe front end conversion which would require buying the coupe front fenders, hood, headlights, bumper and grille. I'm not sure if they would fit though.
Or you can just get a retrofit, or buy a coupe =P
mhadden 09-14-2008, 04:59 PM +1. If you have the money, you can do a coupe front end conversion which would require buying the coupe front fenders, hood, headlights, bumper and grille. I'm not sure if they would fit though.From what I've read, there's nothing in common body wise with the sedan, so I'm guessing even if the front fenders would fit, the body lines wouldn't match up at all. I feel sorry for the OP:yes:
ortcele 09-14-2008, 05:07 PM Thanks for the quick responses. Ok so then realistically it can’t be done. What’s a good place for retrofit?
Also I remember on a mazda I had a long time ago I replaced the stock fog light bulbs with normal colored ones from an auto part store that were of a higher wattage. They were noticeably brighter. I’m thinking of doing this on my sedan any input or consequences?
nighthawkcoupe 09-14-2008, 05:10 PM A good place for a retrofit is retrosolutions.com
Don't put the higher wattage bulbs in your fogs. That's a good way to mess up your harnesses. Chances are if you go a little higher nothing will happen, but I think it's better to be safe than sorry.
AgentWashington 09-14-2008, 05:48 PM Yeah, from an electrical standpoint, putting a higher wattage anything into something designed for a lower wattage is asking for trouble.
shamutruck 09-14-2008, 05:59 PM If all you want is HIDs you dont have to have projector lights to do it right, only about 1/4 of the factory HID eq. cars from all manufacturers have projector lights, just convert your stock lights to an HID system. Id stay away from hi watt bulbs.
If you really want them a lot of people make there own useing stock houseings, projector houseings and some fiberglass, glue and sanding, its a lot of work and results usually arent good, poor aim and focus issues.
Marc08EX 09-14-2008, 06:41 PM Thanks for the quick responses. Ok so then realistically it can’t be done. What’s a good place for retrofit?
Also I remember on a mazda I had a long time ago I replaced the stock fog light bulbs with normal colored ones from an auto part store that were of a higher wattage. They were noticeably brighter. I’m thinking of doing this on my sedan any input or consequences?
There's a retrofit set for sale in the classified section.
nighthawkcoupe 09-14-2008, 06:52 PM If all you want is HIDs you dont have to have projector lights to do it right, only about 1/4 of the factory HID eq. cars from all manufacturers have projector lights
Where exactly did you come up with that statistic? There are only a handful of cars I can think of today that use reflector housings for HIDS, and they are certainly the minority in comparison to those that use projectors. HID reflector housings that come stock on cars are designed differently than halogen reflectors and use different bulbs than most of the PnP kits out there.
shamutruck 09-15-2008, 04:48 AM a*few examples brainiac.
Chrysler 300s
Cadillacs
early Acuras
BMWs
Mercedes
Bentley
Rolls
Audis
Lincoln
Ford
and I DIDNT say the housings were the same, just that they wernt projector type lenses, Ive heard the BS about design before, if you want a true legal conversion the only is factory or see in Xenarc makes a kit, thiers have everything, lenses included, legal ones.
mhadden 09-15-2008, 05:13 AM Calm 'er down, guys.
Toyota also uses reflectors for their HID lighting on the Avalon.
taffwh2008sedan 09-15-2008, 05:34 AM a*few examples brainiac.
Chrysler 300s
Cadillacs
early Acuras
BMWs
Mercedes
Bentley
Rolls
Audis
Lincoln
Ford
and I DIDNT say the housings were the same, just that they wernt projector type lenses, Ive heard the BS about design before, if you want a true legal conversion the only is factory or see in Xenarc makes a kit, thiers have everything, lenses included, legal ones.
Nonesense, show me a single currently produced Mercedes or Audi that doesn't have projectors. You are dissipating misinformation.
kopimon 09-15-2008, 07:15 AM I know a guy with a 300M, they look like projectors to me
shamutruck 09-15-2008, 09:44 AM lol, well, guess Im the big dummy then! :)
Heres some more information, stay out of trouble, leave it stock, no worries about hard to find aftermarket bulbs or ballast that are only readily available on the internet. Drive your car, maintain it with Honda parts, enjoy it and itll last for decades.
no fun but the truth.
Lifes to short.
taffwh2008sedan 09-15-2008, 10:10 AM lol, well, guess Im the big dummy then! :)
Heres some more information, stay out of trouble, leave it stock, no worries about hard to find aftermarket bulbs or ballast that are only readily available on the internet. Drive your car, maintain it with Honda parts, enjoy it and itll last for decades.
no fun but the truth.
Lifes to short.
Agree, I would only ever do an HID upgrade if I bought the Honda lights from overseas -- but that's price-prohobitive.
ksills 09-15-2008, 10:12 AM Thanks for the quick responses. Ok so then realistically it can’t be done. What’s a good place for retrofit?
Also I remember on a mazda I had a long time ago I replaced the stock fog light bulbs with normal colored ones from an auto part store that were of a higher wattage. They were noticeably brighter. I’m thinking of doing this on my sedan any input or consequences?
.You will tax your already weak electrical sytem and melt the connectors and wires. Another approach would be HIRs, same wattage and 40% or more increase of light output. Do a search and you will find them disscussed adnausem. They are about $50 for the pair.
clewttu 09-15-2008, 12:03 PM standard bulbs are 55W, HIDS are 35W or 55W...wouldnt worry too much about burning up any wires
A&Fbro28 09-15-2008, 12:55 PM One thing to keep in mind, when ordering assemblies from a car that isn't in your country. Make sure u order from a country that drives on the same side of the road. For example, when i had my S2000 back in 00-02, Everyone wanted the Euro S2k's lights as the turn signal reflectors were clear instead of yellow. Well because people in Europe drive opposite of us, the headlights angle light up the road like \ \ vs. / / in North America. Being aimed the opposite way, they were higher on the side of on coming traffic. Blinding the F@#K out of them. So keep this in mind...
Markus 09-15-2008, 01:49 PM One thing to keep in mind, when ordering assemblies from a car that isn't in your country. Make sure u order from a country that drives on the same side of the road. For example, when i had my S2000 back in 00-02, Everyone wanted the Euro S2k's lights as the turn signal reflectors were clear instead of yellow. Well because people in Europe drive opposite of us, the headlights angle light up the road like \ \ vs. / / in North America. Being aimed the opposite way, they were higher on the side of on coming traffic. Blinding the F@#K out of them. So keep this in mind...
As long as you buy the lights for mainland Europe you're OK. It's only the UK that drives on the left side of the road.
nighthawkcoupe 09-15-2008, 06:11 PM standard bulbs are 55W, HIDS are 35W or 55W...wouldnt worry too much about burning up any wires
I trust that quality PnP kits are safe, but although they run at 35w or 55w, the startup current is much higher, and that's what worries some people.
retrosolutions 09-16-2008, 01:43 PM I trust that quality PnP kits are safe, but although they run at 35w or 55w, the startup current is much higher, and that's what worries some people.
That is why you should only use a true plug and play kit with very low starting and in-rush current requirements. I'll see if I can't post up a sample video of some run up tests for you guys.
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