Can I use this oil in Accord Sedan 2008? What is difference between extended performance & Mobil1 5w-20?

Also can you pls. advise recommended OEM filter for Accord Sedan EX-L V4 2008?

I'm thinking of taking my own oil & filter to dealer tomorrow.

Thanks for your advice!

I use it, don't see why you can't. you can go more miles on it, I still change it every 3k though haha I use Mobil1-110 filter

What is difference between extended performance & Mobil1 5w-20?

Answer (http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance_FAQs.aspx#FAQs2):
What is the difference between Mobil 1® Extended Performance and Mobil 1?

Mobil 1 Extended Performance formulas are designed specifically for today's longer service intervals and are guaranteed to protect for up to 15,000 miles or one year.

Mobil 1 Extended Performance has a unique formulation with a boosted level of protection and performance. Mobil 1 Extended Performance, with the Advanced SuperSyn System, contains 50 percent more SuperSyn than Mobil 1. (Updated March 2006)

Also can you pls. advise recommended OEM filter for Accord Sedan EX-L V4 2008?

For filters (http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/opinions.html): Wix, Purolator, Mobil 1, ProLine, etc.

I wouldn't spend the money on the EP for two reasons:

The oil analysis' done with this oil on Bobistheoilguy are just not spectacular, very average as a matter of fact. Very few, if any, made it to 15K miles. The oil was shot long before then.

Unless this has changed very recently EP is not API certified as some Amsoil products are not. This doesn't mean it's bad but technically you void your engine warranty using that oil because it is not Honda approved. The manual specifies API SM oil. This is really nit picking I admit but you need to be aware of it.

Stick with regular M1 0W20 or 5W20 which is API certified. The EP is a premium priced very average synthetic oil so why spend more for it?

I would run EP here. But I can't get it in the 5qt jugs. So I stay with reg. M1 and do 10k mile oil changes.

I wouldn't spend the money on the EP for two reasons:

The oil analysis' done with this oil on Bobistheoilguy are just not spectacular, very average as a matter of fact. Very few, if any, made it to 15K miles. The oil was shot long before then.

Unless this has changed very recently EP is not API certified as some Amsoil products are not. This doesn't mean it's bad but technically you void your engine warranty using that oil because it is not Honda approved. The manual specifies API SM oil. This is really nit picking I admit but you need to be aware of it.

Stick with regular M1 0W20 or 5W20 which is API certified. The EP is a premium priced very average synthetic oil so why spend more for it?


I just checked Mobil1 website. It is infact API SM certified

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Specifications and Approvals

Mobil 1 Extended Performance meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:
5W-30
10W-30
15W-50
5W-20
ILSAC GF-4 GF-4 GF-4
API SM,SL,SJ,SH/CF SM,SL,SJ,SH/CF SM,SL,SJ,SH/CF SM,SL,SJ,SH/CF
ACEA A1,B1,A5,B5 A1,B1,A5,B5 A1,B1

That doesn't say it is API Certified oil. It simply says it meets or exceeds the specs as do most Amsoil containers. The additives exceed what API will allow. Both are good to excellent products don't get me wrong.

If it doesn't have this on the bottle then it is NOT certified but that doesn't mean it's a bad product.

That doesn't say it is API Certified oil. It simply says it meets or exceeds the specs as do most Amsoil containers. The additives exceed what API will allow. Both are good to excellent products don't get me wrong.

If it doesn't have this on the bottle then it is NOT certified but that doesn't mean it's a bad product.

Make sense, Thanks for advice!!

I will go to store today & see if it has this picture on jug.

btw I just called my honda dealer and ask about can I bring my own filter M1-110. He said he don't recommend it because they are using honda filter and they know it fits well and correct size.

Have you used Mobil1 -110 filter with Sedan 2008? I don't want to void or cause some trouble to car engine:)

They just want to sell you their filter. It's a tired old game so don't let them bluff you. The M1 filter is a far better product just double check that it's the correct one.

They just want to sell you their filter. It's a tired old game so don't let them bluff you. The M1 filter is a far better product just double check that it's the correct one.

Thanks again, I tried to find correct part number for accord sedan 2008 on Mobil1 website. Couldn't find it.

Do you know how can I check correct part number for Mobil1 filter required for accord 2008?

I found it online M1-110 is correct for the 4 cylinder. You can always check at the parts store to confirm it.

I wouldn't spend the money on the EP for two reasons:

The oil analysis' done with this oil on Bobistheoilguy are just not spectacular, very average as a matter of fact. Very few, if any, made it to 15K miles. The oil was shot long before then.

Unless this has changed very recently EP is not API certified as some Amsoil products are not. This doesn't mean it's bad but technically you void your engine warranty using that oil because it is not Honda approved. The manual specifies API SM oil. This is really nit picking I admit but you need to be aware of it.

Stick with regular M1 0W20 or 5W20 which is API certified. The EP is a premium priced very average synthetic oil so why spend more for it?

Do you remember at how many miles the EP Mobil 1 was deemed shot? My last oil change I left Castrol Syntec in there for 11k. I didnt do a oil analysis.

btw I just called my honda dealer and ask about can I bring my own filter M1-110. He said he don't recommend it because they are using honda filter and they know it fits well and correct size.

Have you used Mobil1 -110 filter with Sedan 2008? I don't want to void or cause some trouble to car engine:)

Typical canned response from a dealer. Like RTF said, they are just trying to sell you an overpriced filter (and a Honda/Fram filter too *ugh*). The M1-110 will definitely fit your 2008 sedan. I have one on mine. No troubles whatsoever and my dealer doesn't care what filter I use. It won't void my warranty.

Don't know where you live, but if you go to Pep Boys, they occasionally have some great deals on M1 oil and filter. Definitely worth a look.

The Mobil 1 Extended is of little use since you have to follow the Maintenance Minder anyway. Even if it really was good for 15k, which as RTF said it isn't (I agree...see BITOG site), your warranty would require following the Maintenance Minder. If you start ignoring it, and there is an engine problem (unlikely), you may get told the extended drains did it and voided the warranty.

The other thing is to go to a Pep Boys or even any quick-change place with your Mobil 1 and filter (Mobil 1, NAPA Gold, etc). You are NOT required to go to the dealer for maintenance, by federal law. If you prefer to and it's convenient, that's fine, but it is not a requirement. Just save your receipts. I do my own oil/filter changes and keep the receipts. It's in the owner's manual that you can go elsewhere.

Mobil 1 EP 5w20 has a slightly higher Tbn. It's also GF-4/SM approved.

Hey buster, haven't seen you here for a long time. So are you saying all the EP's are API certified now?......certified not approved. I guess I need to go to the store and read the label myself. Last I saw, due to the large amountof ZDDP, it exceeded the amount allowed for SM certification by API.

The Mobil 1 Extended is of little use since you have to follow the Maintenance Minder anyway. Even if it really was good for 15k, which as RTF said it isn't (I agree...see BITOG site), your warranty would require following the Maintenance Minder. If you start ignoring it, and there is an engine problem (unlikely), you may get told the extended drains did it and voided the warranty.



Since you want/have to follow the MM system, you want to find an oil that goes the amount of miles your MMS system allows before it reaches 15% or time to change. My MMS governed OCIs are about ~5k so I use an oil that is proven by BITOG and Used Oil Analysis to still have additives remaining up to the time my oil change light comes on at 15% and ~5000 miles. A good synthetic blend is all an Accord needs so I also would not recommend Mobil 1 EP due to the MMS system and continued warranty coverage.

Who say's you have to use the idiot maint. minder. Its just a stupid chunk of code that looks at miles driven and rpm. It might include time and oil temp. But not likely.

Hi RT, that is correct. Originally they were GF-3/SL rated and not ILSAC F-4/API SM. Shortly after they were released, they updated the additive chemistry and now are officially API SM./ILSAC GF-4 rated. Amsoil's only line of oils that meet API SM are the XL series. Their extended drain oils are not officially API certified. It's an expensive process.

Who say's you have to use the idiot maint. minder. Its just a stupid chunk of code that looks at miles driven and rpm. It might include time and oil temp. But not likely.

That's why I did a couple of oil analysis' to check the trustworthiness of the MM. Turned out that the MM is pretty reliable.

Unless this has changed very recently EP is not API certified as some Amsoil products are not. This doesn't mean it's bad but technically you void your engine warranty using that oil because it is not Honda approved. The manual specifies API SM oil. This is really nit picking I admit but you need to be aware of it.

According to Buster this has changed so if that's the case you are fat city and could not void anything.

That's why I did a couple of oil analysis' to check the trustworthiness of the MM. Turned out that the MM is pretty reliable.

While I can get over involved in my car maint. And do practice certin things like longer OCI's and such. Ive never lost a engine due to a oil related problem. Ive pushed many a motor over 300k very hard miles. None of the engines used alot of oil. Maybe a qt. between oil changes. Be it pure dino (5k mile oci) or M1 (10k mile oci).

I lost one engine to a faulty Fram filter. The can failed and oil dumped at high rpm. Other engines hurt or lost was because of my foot or another failure that inturn hurt the motor. I once blew the crank right out the bottom of a hemi motor.

Get this. I have a buddy that refuse's to do oil changes. When they get one qt. low. He changes out the oil filter and tops off. Ive known him 35 years and he has only owned four cars.

funny how we all look at this stuff isn't it. :lmao:

Does anyone know where I can still get the five quart jug of regular synthetic 5W-20 M1? I used to get them from walmart, but seems like the three Walmarts where I live don't carry them anymore... I live in Michigan :dunno:

Does anyone know where I can still get the five quart jug of regular synthetic 5W-20 M1? I used to get them from walmart, but seems like the three Walmarts where I live don't carry them anymore... I live in Michigan :dunno:I noticed that too. The Walmart near me just now started stocking it again (checked last night)...

do your own oil change, piece of cake, you already have all the materials.

I noticed that too. The Walmart near me just now started stocking it again (checked last night)...

Yea from what RTexasF says... Ike decimated Mobil's raw material supplies so they are just starting to restock and there is a $10 rebate online at mobil's website as well.

Yea from what RTexasF says... Ike decimated Mobil's raw material supplies so they are just starting to restock and there is a $10 rebate online at mobil's website as well.Damn skippy! I just "applied" for mine! Thanks for the heads up:thmsup:

FYI, here's Mobil's explaination verbatim:

Due to the impact of Hurricane Ike on our raw material suppliers, there is limited availability of Mobil 1. We are working to have your choice of Mobil 1 motor oil in stock as soon as possible.

Click the "Get Rebate" button below to register and print the offer form now (available for a limited time only). Save the form for a future Mobil 1 purchase made between April 1 and August 31, 2009. Then, mail in your Mobil 1 proof of purchase with the offer form to receive your $10 rebate check.

Rebate is good for a Mobil 1 five quart motor oil purchase or Mobil 1 oil change service. All Mobil 1 motor oil products, including Mobil 1 Extended Performance, Mobil 1 High Mileage and Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy are eligible. Limit two rebates per household..

I'll post the pdf coupon when I get home (because I don't have Adobe to edit my personal information off the coupon).

here you go guys, saved you some time mhadden

Thanks!

I do all my oil change at mobil gas station. I asked for EP and the mechanic told me I dont need it and Mobil1 is fine. He mentioned its just marketing and he hasn't seen any oil that last 10k.

u can pretty much use any oil of 5w-20, i prefer penzoil, castrol,mobil brands and as long as u don't try to go to far beyond the 3000-4000 miles , ur car will be fine. i would never let my car run pass 3000 miles without an oil change , it's still running strong with over 200k of miles on it, 97 honda accord v6.

u can pretty much use any oil of 5w-20, i prefer penzoil, castrol,mobil brands and as long as u don't try to go to far beyond the 3000-4000 miles , ur car will be fine. i would never let my car run pass 3000 miles without an oil change , it's still running strong with over 200k of miles on it, 97 honda accord v6.3k OCI's are a thing of the past. Do a UOA on ANY dino (aka non-synthetic) and they will all do good to at least 5k miles... you're wasting your money.

I wouldn't waste the money on EP since you're still under warranty (thus changing it way too soon via the MM.) The EP is for long intervals and the MM is basing its decision on conventional oil. Just use the regular Mobile 1 synthetic and their filter when the MM says to if you want that extra insurance. My V6 gets a Mobile 1 filter and standard Mobile 1 synthetic 5w20 based on the MM, which has been just under 5K miles (49xx on the first, and 98xx on the second). I do nothing but short trips though (about 4K in 9 months.)

I'm not against the EP, I run it in my Blazer with the Mobile 1 filter and it works great. It usually was changed every year and had about 10-13K miles each change. The last change (it's due again by time, not mileage) was forgot about and wound up being about 16 to 18 months and 18K. That oil tested as good BTW and didn't look that bad either (though that's not a good way to judge things.)