...guess the charm has worn out on our old Odyssey, she's never let us down once, and now she doesn't want to get going in the morning. My wife went to head out on some errands and couldn't get her to start. The starter definitely has lots of juice, the motor is cranking over, but not catching. This morning I went out and tried to get it going, kept trying and this time pumped the gas pedal and the motor finally caught, sounded like it was coughing on two cylinders and I realized I'd probably flooded it. It finally settled into a normal idle and started all day after the initial problem in the morning. It is the beginning of the cold & damp time of year, could this have been a cause? are there any of you Ody owners here who've experienced a similar situation who could shed a bit of light on our problem? :dunno:

cheers,

Lorne Miller
05 EX-L deep green pearl with ivory
96 Odyssey taffeta white with sage

Sounds like a battery.

Next time it happens hook the Accord up and jump it. The start. I'll bet it turns right over.

Might be moisture in the distributor... which would also cause it to act up in the rain. Has the distributor and/or cap/rotor ever been replaced? When was the last tune-up? If the engine starts right up for the rest of the day and the starter isn't dragging, I wouldn't suspect a dying battery...

Might be moisture in the distributor... which would also cause it to act up in the rain. Has the distributor and/or cap/rotor ever been replaced? When was the last tune-up? If the engine starts right up for the rest of the day and the starter isn't dragging, I wouldn't suspect a dying battery...

True but if the car is being run for errands that means the battery is being charged vs. sitting overnight.

If a dead/weak battery is the culprit, the engine doesn't turn over only because the battery doesn't have enough juice to spin the starter fast enough (if at all) to turn it over. If the battery were weak, his starter would drag. According to him, the engine is cranking normally... it's just not turning over, meaning that it's either not getting spark or fuel. I doubt it's fuel related, considering that it only acts up first thing in the morning when it's cold and humid out and starts up/runs fine for the rest of the day. The main fuel relays generally only cause problems after the vehicle has been sitting in the heat during the day. It could be a number of things, but the distributor would be my best guess...even though I haven't heard of as many issues with the distributors on the F22B engines as I have on the earlier F22As.

You don't say what year the car is. But the problem is either fuel or spark. Check spark and if you have, then its fuel. Hondas have coils and igniter go out frequently. Thats where I would start for no spark.

Might be moisture in the distributor... which would also cause it to act up in the rain. Has the distributor and/or cap/rotor ever been replaced? When was the last tune-up? If the engine starts right up for the rest of the day and the starter isn't dragging, I wouldn't suspect a dying battery...


+1

From the symptoms sounds like moisture in the cap. Same thing happened on my 5th Gen. Cap,rotor and wires will cure.

I1:)

You don't say what year the car is. But the problem is either fuel or spark. Check spark and if you have, then its fuel. Hondas have coils and igniter go out frequently. Thats where I would start for no spark.

Most people have the info in their sigs:yes::dunno:

I1;)

...it's a '96, which makes it 13 years old now that they're selling '09's, it's definitely not the battery which is not even a year old, lots and lots of power there. The starter is turning over just fine, the motor just isn't lighting up. When it did light it was obvious that it was flooded as it was coughing and choking on the excess fuel. She's at the dealer now, they couldn't get it to repeat the problem today, every time she started up perfectly, so they're going to leave it out overnight and try it in the morning after the mechanicals have gotten cold and damp...lets hope the 'problem' reoccurs...

cheers,

Lorne Miller
05 EX-L deep green pearl with ivory
96 Odyssey taffeta white with sage

Do this...

Pull out the wires from the top of the valve cover. They pop out, the tubes. Are your tubes covered in oil?

If they are, the O-rings are leaking in there and oil is submerging the spark plug. Common problem on the non-VTEC F22B's.