i was driving and my transmission just started slipping and not shifting right, i pulled over into a parking lot, and let it set for 2 or 3 hours came back and it just revs in the froward gears, and is making a odd sound, i still have reverse gear, so ya... i guess:dunno:

anyway i have a new battery, alternator cv-axles, a timing belt/water pump about 30k ago, also the radiator, and the engine is running strong, so i think it is well worth replacing the transmission...my self...i need to ask princess for the pdf.

i also need to find a new/used transmission to put into it. anyone know where i can get one for cheap that matches my car?

i live right near Dallas maybe i can pick one up for cheap there?

it is an automatic by the way...

I've had that happen on two cars and in both cases the tranny was expired, late, toast. Your best bet would be to try to find a low mileage 94-97 Accord in a junkyard somewhere. OTOH, that would be a rare find IMHO.

Good luck.

found this, but i don't need a engine right now. $600 engine/transmission $222 shipping

http://www.tigerautoparts.com/jdm-engine-transmission/honda-acura/b18c-gsr-obd1-dohc-vtec-turbo-engine-5-speed-lsd-transmission-acura-integra-41.html


also this $250 transmission $222 shipping

http://www.tigerautoparts.com/jdm-transmissions/honda-acura/d15b-sohc-vtec-e-engine-only-honda-civic-92-96.html

need to know if the transmission i linked to earlier will fit my car, is a 97 have some kind of special computer or some extra sensor i need to know about?:dunno:

The best bet is to find the exact year, if possible. A neighbor of mine just swapped out his sons 93 Paseo. He found a 94 tranny for a steal, but found that it had extra sensors on it, so he had to find a 93 (which he did a week later).

need to know if the transmission i linked to earlier will fit my car, is a 97 have some kind of special computer or some extra sensor i need to know about?:dunno:

Unfortunately for you, the 1997 model has a redesigned transmission for smoother shifting. It is not the same as the 1994-1996 models. It's probably closer to the 1998-2002 models, hence the (premature for a honda) death. This little redesign was the beginning of Honda trying to get rid of their firm shifting AT's in favor of smoothness and seamless shifting. It all went downhill from there as far as longevity goes, really.

You need to find one out of a 1997 Accord, basically. I highly recommend you buy a new/rebuilt one. Used units are usually not worth all the time and effort when your dealing with a product known to fail.:yes:

...Used units are usually not worth all the time and effort when your dealing with a product known to fail.:yes:That's a fact, especially since you won't know how it was treated. The last thing you want to do is another tranny swap in another couple thousand miles - its already a labor intensive process.

where do i find a rebuilt transmission for a good price, i am just not going to spend more than a $1000 total period it would just not be worth it to me, can i rebuild my transmission? and what about ebay?

i am really thinking about rebuilding it myself if i find some kind of guide or something.

and a list of all the parts i would need.

Doubt you're going to be able to rebuild it yourself...even most shops don't touch that crap with a 10 foot pole, just too hard to do it. I'd start looking for another Accord at the same time just in case you can't find a rebuilt for a good price. With the economy these days, you never know what kinda deal you'll find on a car.

did allot of looking today, but came up empty handed, i was going to try an rebuild, but i can't find what all parts i need.

i also can't seem to find a rebuilt for sale without filling out some random forms, and waiting for a response.

Doubt you're going to be able to rebuild it yourself...even most shops don't touch that crap with a 10 foot pole, just too hard to do it. I'd start looking for another Accord at the same time just in case you can't find a rebuilt for a good price. With the economy these days, you never know what kinda deal you'll find on a car.

my friend has a 96 accord 5-speed, with 180k, 2.2L v-tec, for $3500 almost bought it instead of getting mine fixed when mine was wrecked:headbash:

but now i don't have the money to buy it. talked to my dad and he said to look for a cheap car that might get by till i can get mine fixed.

ya i have no clue what to get now...because a rebuilt transmission cost about $1700 but i have only really found one of them.

You could try Aamco. They could rebuild it for you, but I'm not sure on the price.

The junkyards with lots of cars are your best bet to locate what you need, but even then, you will be dealing with used stuff.

I found this (http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/pts/911230069.html) on craigslist...maybe that'll be an option if you can find one closer to your area.

http://www.drivetrain.com/honda_dt.htm#Honda%20Accord%20BOYA

found this looks like everything i need to rebuild mine...
but which kit do i need? I have a BOYA transmission, but it says it is for 94-95:dunno:

so what transmission do i have? according to this site i should have a...well mine dose not match anyone of the codes on there site:nuts:

You could try Aamco. They could rebuild it for you, but I'm not sure on the price.

The junkyards with lots of cars are your best bet to locate what you need, but even then, you will be dealing with used stuff.

I found this (http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/pts/911230069.html) on craigslist...maybe that'll be an option if you can find one closer to your area.

ya i looked on craigslist, and found nothing, i can't seem to find any transmissions online that match mine.

I could get you a remanufactured transmission from Honda for $1200, but you'd have to pick it up in New Orleans... and then have it installed. Although I've heard that the 1997s have different transmissions, I have yet to see/read proof of that and until then, I'm not entirely sure that I really believe it. Personally, I have felt no difference in the shift quality between the 1997 Accords that I've driven and my 1996. Believe it or not, my 1993 has the smoothest shifts out of all of them. In any case, if they were in fact different, the 1994-1996 unit should still bolt up to the engine in a plug and play fashion.

How long do you anticipate keeping the car? If it's a keeper, don't hesitate to put a little money into it... put a good transmission in it, replace some suspension components, a few seals/gaskets and you'll have a good dependable car for another 10+ years. The engines are nothing short of amazing...

Since your doing the work yourself...have you thought of doing a manual swap? At least then whatever you swap in you will not have concerns about wear...

Although I've heard that the 1997s have different transmissions, I have yet to see/read proof of that and until then, I'm not entirely sure that I really believe it.

...The 1997 model air conditioning system has been improved for faster cooling. More insulation has been added to successfully reduce engine and road noise, and the redesigned automatic transmission is supposed to shift more smoothly...

Linky = http://nctd.com/review-drive.cfm?Vehicle=1997_Honda_Accord&ReviewID=3591

Hmmm... interesting. Thanks for the link. In the case of the 6th gen Accords, I can definitely feel the significant difference in the shifts. If I was unknowingly behind the wheel of a 97 and was told that it was a 1996, I wouldn't be able to argue otherwise. Well, I take that back... the 1997s had padded center arm rests/console lids.

He should still be able to bolt up a 94-96 unit in there...

Perhaps just a wild coincidence, but this is one of several cases (my 96 Accord included) that I know of a 4th/5th gen Accord automatic transmission failure shortly after a front-end collision... especially on the passenger side.

ya the wreck did not help that's for sure. the whole car takes a slight beating when your in a wreck.
but my transmission has been dieing for awhile now.


lpaudio2 i don't think i am going to do a 5-speed swap, i have looked into it before, and even have a old thread where i through up the idea, when my transmission started dieing on me like a year ago:lmao:

i have to call around, but i think i am going to try to take mine out bring it to a shop and have them rebuild it, and throw it back in it.:thmsup:

if it fails then i will try and find a remanufactured transmission, maybe hit itsaHonda up on that offer in New Orleans...

well idk what i am doing...was calling around, and the price to get it rebuilt is around $1200-$1800 which is a little high, but i do plan on keeping the car for a while.

had one shop quote me $1495 to just bring my car in and have them do it.

also had a shop say 1200-1400 bring it in they will tear it down and look at it and tell me the price it will be, and if i say no they put it back together, and it is no cost to me.:thmsup:

just ordered this transmission hope it works:dunno::nuts:

http://www.tigerautoparts.com/jdm-transmissions/honda-acura/d15b-sohc-vtec-e-engine-only-honda-civic-92-96.html

oh ya just in case you all are wondering, i am driving a 1991 Toyota Celica GT 2.2L 5-speed Baby Blue. it is so small...my head sticks out the sunroof :lmao:
not much at all though.:nuts:

it needs some work its self though...timing belt looks bad on it:paranoid:lots of small cracks...it dose not idle right when it is warmed up it goes up and down between 1200 rpms, and 1800 rpms...also some vacuum lines are mixed up or something, still trying to figure out where the last few go...:(, also it has a cel i need to check it....but something tells me once i figure this stupid vacuum line problem the cel will go out, and the idle will be right.

the good...ok tires, all new breaks installed by me of course:yes:, new battery (free from the accords wreck), new belts, new vacuum lines still in progress:dunno:...lol, good gas millage

pics to come...

Good luck with the transmission Steve. I was in a similiar situation a couple of years back. The 5 spd in my old '91 Nissan pickup went out and I had a tough choice to make. I drove it near daily for 12 years but I wasn't about to drop nearly a grand on a total rebuild or risk buying a used one that would potentionally soon fail too. After a few months of grazing in the back yard, I sold it "as-is" to a co-worker that had a very similiar truck with a blown engine.

well it will be here on Dec, 29th i will let you all know how it works out.:paranoid:

ok so i have the transmission now, and it looks good, but you can't really tell anything by looking at it. i went and bought the drivers side cv axle, i already have a new cv axle on my passengers side so i will be keeping it.
i went and bought transmission fluid too, and no it is not honda atf, i don't care what they say i like the b&m trick shift, i used it in my accord before when it started slipping, and it held out for a whole year, so i don't think it hurt it at all.

i plan on starting pulling the car apart maybe tomorrow, but for sure on the 1st i will be working on getting the transmission in.

hope it works:yes::paranoid:

k so the old transmission is out, and the new torque converter is installed, kinda a pain, but i am now ready to throw the used jdm transmission in.
Saturday most likely it is going to be a pain but i just bought a new 3 ton jack and transmission adapter $300 all together but worth it:thmsup:

my old transmission mounts, engine mounts and all that crap are total destroyed, i don't know how it drove so smooth like that:dunno:

a few wires are only thing holding the engine in lol just kidding, but it sure seems like it.

total costs so far

$512 transmission/torque converter
$200 transmission/engine mounts
$50 transmission fluid
$300 jack/transmission adapter i will need it later to do my bros jetta's clutch so well worth it. pulse it is a normal jack so i will use it all the time.:thmsup:

$762 so far on my car...

still worried if it is going to work.:paranoid:

Those costs aren't too bad at all. Sure hope it works and look forward to the update...

well i just worked on it a little today got all the new motor mounts and the rear transmission mount, not to bad to replace with the transmission out, but looks impossible with it in there:paranoid:
all the mounts were completely torn and fell right apart when i took them out. except the drivers side one which is fine:dunno:
anyone else think the accident might have broken the other 3 mounts, they looked freshly torn:thumbsdow

with them all being bad it could have caused my transmission to be out of line, and destroy my cv axles, and could have easily blown my week transmission.

the transmission is under the car, the next step is jacking it up, and bolting it in.
saving that for tomorrow after i get a full nights sleep:thmsup:

and the pics of course... the celica in the bottom pics is what i am driving for right now. made it a new shift boot last night it seems happier...:lmao::nuts:

the shift boot:naughty:

the pics are from my camera on my treo centro:thmsup:
not bad for a phone...forgot this one, my moms civic is in the background:D

You are doing some great work. It also looks like you are saving a good bit of coin while also learning a bunch and gaining a few more tools for that toolbox!

Keep us updated. I've been reading, but haven't been posting as much. The job almost looks like it is a bit of fun (besides Spending money).

done, and it runs great so far:D:thmsup::banana::naughty::nuts::biggrin:

more info latter i am in a hurry

well it works, i drove it around the block twice, the last time i was gunning it, and it worked great:thmsup:

but i don't have it insured until Monday, but then Tuesday at 3am i will be leaving for a trip to NM for a week so i won't get to drive it really for a week:thumbsdow

Need to change the sig :)

are we able to change his sig for him??? :naughty:

ok i will lol still need to test it before i call it said and done with.

but i don't think i will have any problems, the fluid that was in the transmission when i got it was really clean, and did not smell or taste burnt.

by the way my old transmission was a BOYA, and the new one is a AOYA, so i guess a transmission from a early 5th gen will work in a 97:thmsup: that is if an AOYA is from an early 5th gen:dunno:

i thought all F/H series transmissions were compatable with each other......maybe its just the manual transmissions though.

Unfortunately for you, the 1997 model has a redesigned transmission for smoother shifting. It is not the same as the 1994-1996 models. It's probably closer to the 1998-2002 models, hence the (premature for a honda) death. This little redesign was the beginning of Honda trying to get rid of their firm shifting AT's in favor of smoothness and seamless shifting. It all went downhill from there as far as longevity goes, really.

You need to find one out of a 1997 Accord, basically. I highly recommend you buy a new/rebuilt one. Used units are usually not worth all the time and effort when your dealing with a product known to fail.:yes:



...The 1997 model air conditioning system has been improved for faster cooling. More insulation has been added to successfully reduce engine and road noise, and the redesigned automatic transmission is supposed to shift more smoothly...

Linky = http://nctd.com/review-drive.cfm?Vehicle=1997_Honda_Accord&ReviewID=3591



well accordlover had me convinced, but i could not find any solid proof about the 97 being redesigned

i drove my accord allot today, and it was so smooth, and shifted really nice, kinda firm like it should be. when the car is coasting it is so smooth and quiet.

also my wheel hop is gone...it was wet outside today so ya i gunned it and spun them a bit... :D

anyway i am going on vacation to NM to see my grandma, and do some snowboarding,:) were leaving in 4 hours and were driving my dads truck. see you in a week:wave:

what's up i am back.

well the accord still drives good, i had a problem starting it, but i know it is the battery, just trying to get it replaced under warranty, so i need autozone to check it when it is acting up. or the next time i go in and the manager i know is there, he will replace it for sure for me.:thmsup:

Oh wow... I have a 97 Accord and blew out the tranmission about the same time you did, it seems. I've got 158k miles on it and my transmission is acting the exact same way you described yours (reverse gear only, forward gears slipped before and no longer engage). I also live near Dallas (north Fort Worth) haha.

I managed to come across a honda service manual for 94-97 accords through a private bittorrent site (oddly enough) and it explains everything in depth for our accords. I was following it's diagnostic steps for the transmission and it suggested the problem was a clogged ATF strainer. I followed the steps in the service manual to taking the transmission out and it's sitting in the garage now. The service manual has diagrams of the entire transmission, so my dad and I are starting to take it apart to try to fix because the ATF strainer seems like a rather minor issue. It shows it inside the torque converter housing which I've unbolted and am trying to pull apart from the dowel pins and whatnot. It's a weird, weird coincidence that I came across this current thread with the same exact issue as mine so I'll be posting here on my progress.

steve, the JDM transmission that you linked to seems really tempting to get. I've looked around online and came across the same results as you and searched local junkyards in Texas online and came across transmissions with higher mileage than mine for $450+. I'm really strapped for cash and need to get my car working ASAP so I can look for a job. How long did it take to arrive once you placed your order?

Ideally, if this ATF strainer is the issue, then I'll spend next to nothing to fix it. If it seems to be something more complicated, then I'll pass and order from the same place you did, especially since I know it's legit since you got yours there and have success. If it is the ATF strainer and it's a relatively easy fix, then you could try fixing yours and selling it to a junk yard and come up with a net zero total cost :D. Regardless of whether you might take your old transmission apart or not, would you want me to send you the service manual pdf?

sure thing man the pdf would be great.
i figured the problem was the filter on the transmission, but there is so much stuff in this transmission that has to be taken out to get to it. i have heard people say it is the first thing to go in when building the transmission, and the last to come out when rebuilding one. but i am not sure if it is true.:dunno:

but my transmission had been slipping when it was cold out and the car was cold for about a year before it randomly failed one day.

i plan on keeping my bad transmission, and trying to rebuild it latter on.

update: transmission is still running good:thmsup:

i had the crankshaft pulley come loose:dunno:
i tightened it, but it still kinda rattled so i replaced it before work today, seems to be just fine now:thmsup:, but i am now broke once again:thumbsdow