Not a coupe person myself (at 6'4"....) but this review is interesting in that the words "world class" are utilized. The comparisons to come in the mainstream publications will be interesting.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=137955?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

I must have missed something. How does a car maker build a 2.9 liter turbocharged/intercooled powertrain and only make 212HP??? :thumbsdow

Just visited www.thegenesiscoupe.com and it notes the turbo is a 2.0 liter engine, not a 2.9 engine. Typo somewhere in the loop.

Wonder how the guts are of the Hyundai 2.0l engine....my old 1999 Passat 1.8t (in the sole possession of my god-son) now has 240k miles on it, engine or turbo have never been touched. I was speaking with him yesterday, notes that the car is using 1/2 qt. of oil between oil changes and thinks the "use" is a leak he's waiting to track down as time permits.

Anyway, nice to see new vehicles coming out with strong reviews right out of the box. When the time comes I'll look at the sedan.....but since I like rowing my own gears still....choices will be few.

Drools.

Did I see 3.8 V6 and 6MT in the same sentence?

If so....I have to drive this car.

The coupe and the sedan look SOOOOO different. Granted, the Accord Coupe/Sedan don't look very much like each other (although you can confuse each other when looking at it from the front), but DAMNN...this Hyundai Genesis Coupe/Sedan should have different names.

Never the less, the RED Genesis Coupe looks nice...
For some reason I'm not liking the silver... or the front end, the front looks like it got smushed.
The rear end is sexy as hell though.

Drools.

Did I see 3.8 V6 and 6MT in the same sentence?

If so....I have to drive this car.

It does sound interesting doesn't it? That review was more about driving in Korea than the car they were in. All I got out of it was that the SE is too stiff in the suspension.

I see this turning heads at a busy starbucks....but idk if i would say this thing "feels" like a g37, that is quite a price gap im sure

More photos

http://genesisforums.org/hyundai-genesis-pictures-photochops/345-official-hyundai-pictures-spoiler-teaser.html

Def' something I need to see in-person, to fully appreciate & discern the form/shape. Perhaps then, I can offer a better insight/opinion!

True to Korean auto-maker form, it seems to be a fusion of myriad design trends & styling cues (whether that's good or bad thing, who knows)... :paranoid:

More photos

http://genesisforums.org/hyundai-genesis-pictures-photochops/345-official-hyundai-pictures-spoiler-teaser.html


That shade of blue, photo doctored for sure, is extraordinary!

If I were to EVER consider a Hyundai, this would be the one!

I love the blue and the dark gray.

The interior looks well put together. For the first time, I'm excited about a car other than my truck.

I was excited about the old TL for two years until I got mine....but this car is exciting to think about. I can't wait to see one in person (although my wallet wants to :D )

:notworthy nice!!!

The car def has come along way, any news yet on a future R-Spec? The interior looks very comfortable and yet sporty... all you need is a nav in there and your all set! Looks like a baby g37 in that dark sleek silver/gray if you ask me :thmsup:

Couple Different Photos here

http://genesisforums.org/hyundai-genesis-pictures-photochops/219-genesis-coupe-interior-56k-beware-zzz.html

Some of the same as well....

that Genesis Coupe looks sweet.... but I don't think I would ever buy one.... just because it's a Hyundai... sorry.....

wow, if that car can stand the test of time (i.e. long-term reliability) then i may try to hold off on trading in the accord and run it into the ground, then purchase this.... :deal:

then again, maybe not.... :wave:

Drools.

Did I see 3.8 V6 and 6MT in the same sentence?

If so....I have to drive this car.

Not only that, but it's also RWD :thmsup:

Keyless starting and unlocking, Xenon lighting, Premium Audio, memory system - very impressive car, impressive engines, and impressive design. Can't wait for a comparison test.

http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/700_geninfi2.jpg
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/700_geninfi.jpg

Yes, I think I can officially say the Hyundai has arrived. And I would definitely choose it over the Accord Coupe - It simply looks better. Hyundai is not the lowly Korean Chaebol that the Japanese and the world can laugh at any longer. All I can say is, wow, it looks better than the G37;)

so someone rebadged a G37...who cares? :dunno:

so someone rebadged a G37...who cares? :dunno:

Actually, it's more like debadged :yes: Because people who will buy it are people who care more about value than brand names.

so someone rebadged a G37...who cares? :dunno:

More like Hyundai created a great looking RWD coupe while Honda is still trying to make their bloated Accord into a sports car.....

This car is gonna be a hit next year. I can't wait as there is a really good chance this guy is gonna get one! Finally....a Hyundai with an MT with some balls under the hood.

My prediction is, it will breakdown a few miles from the dealership

that Genesis Coupe looks sweet.... but I don't think I would ever buy one.... just because it's a Hyundai... sorry.....

x2

but I think its awkward that its a 2 door Genesis, the 4dr Genesis was aimed at full/mid size lux sedans like the M45, Lex GS, even LS...it was meant to be a luxury car

but the coupe is more sporty aimed at the Mustang? Not a bad thing but see where I am going with this?

Actually, it's more like debadged :yes: Because people who will buy it are people who care more about value than brand names.

Exactly. Same kind of people who bought the XG300/350, Azera, and Kia Amanti...champagne taste on a beer budget

I actually drove an Azera though, they are very nice.

OR the same kind of people who bought an Accord over the TL, Camry over the Lexus, Nissan Maxima over the old I35, VW Passat over the Audi.

Not only will this car be cheaper, but money in the bank sure wil be nice. Gone are the days of having to get an overpriced lux brand to get a nice performing car!

never been to much of a fan of Hyundai but in those comparison pics the coupe def has the edge over the infinity in my book, kinda looks audi-ish on the front styling ...but they do almost look identical ...

Makes me think about how Honda's new coupe even though its a new body doesn't seem as exciting to look at as these newer coupes being released, whats up with that?

My prediction is, it will breakdown a few miles from the dealership

Hyundai's are far from being unreliable. This has been discussed ad nauseum.

Here's another photo I've come across.

http://i42.tinypic.com/15rxhqx.jpg

Nice find, the first photo looks like a cross between the Ferrari Superamerica and the corvette and the second photo looks like an over-glorified Tiburon :lmao:

x2

but I think its awkward that its a 2 door Genesis, the 4dr Genesis was aimed at full/mid size lux sedans like the M45, Lex GS, even LS...it was meant to be a luxury car

but the coupe is more sporty aimed at the Mustang? Not a bad thing but see where I am going with this?

Same car name but aimed at 2 different angles. Hit them all at once. THis car is a homerun IMO.

that Genesis Coupe looks sweet.... but I don't think I would ever buy one.... just because it's a Hyundai... sorry.....

Are you a Korean War vet with some anti-Korean bias?

Here's another photo I've come across.

http://i42.tinypic.com/15rxhqx.jpg

I'll take the one in the top picture, and you can keep the one in the bottom, thank you :lmao:

PRESS RELEASE

HYUNDAI RELEASES ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING AND FEATURE INFORMATION FOR THE ALL-NEW 2010 HYUNDAI GENESIS COUPE

Genesis Coupe Delivers an Estimated 30 MPG

FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Oct. 30, 2008 – Hyundai released additional engineering and feature information for the all-new 2010 Genesis Coupe today. The Genesis Coupe, and its rear-wheel drive platform-mate the Genesis sedan will make their Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show debuts next week.

"One of the program targets for the Genesis engineering team was world-class weight efficiency," said John Krafcik, vice president, Product Development and Strategic Planning, Hyundai Motor America. "When you look at the size and content of both Genesis models, you'll find we lead all our competitors in weight efficiency. We also target leadership in power-to-weight ratio. We think that's just smart strategy in today's world. It pays huge dividends in both performance and fuel economy, and that's especially important in the segments in which these cars compete."

Vehicle Engine Curb Weight (pounds) Length (inches)
Genesis sedan 3.8-liter V6 3748 195.9
Genesis sedan 4.6-liter V8 4012 195.9
Genesis Coupe 2.0-liter turbo 3303 182.3
Genesis Coupe 3.8-liter V6 3402 182.3

Both Genesis Coupe and sedan are rich in ultra-high-strength steel, leading to world-class body rigidity. The Genesis sedan is 10-12 percent stiffer in torsion than Lexus and Mercedes-Benz competitors, yet it is lighter than these benchmark sedans, and offers more interior room. At just 3,303 pounds, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T is hundreds of pounds lighter than all of its IRS-equipped rear-wheel-drive competitors, with body-bending rigidity 24 percent higher than BMW E46 M3.

Vehicle Length Curb Weight (lbs.) Horsepower Power-to-weight ratio
Genesis Coupe 3.8 182.3 3402 310 (est.) 11.0
BMW 335i 181.1 3571 300 11.9
Infiniti G37 183.1 3616 330 11.0
Camaro LS 190.4 3780 300 (est.) 12.6
Challenger 197.7 3819 250 15.3

This focus on weight efficiency pays dividends across the board. The Genesis sedan owes its ability to deliver both strong performance (0-60 mph in just 5.7 seconds) and excellent fuel economy (25 mpg EPA highway rating) in great part due to its impressive weight efficiency. Similarly, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T sets a new benchmark for front-engine, rear-wheel-drive gasoline fuel efficiency with a remarkable 30 mpg estimated EPA highway rating, because of its weight-efficient platform and its efficient 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged four-cylinder engine.

"While some turbochargers sacrifice smooth drivability with high operating boost pressures in the 20 psi range, Genesis Coupe uses a refined, low-boost calibration for smoothness and efficiency," said Derek Joyce, Genesis Coupe product manager. "We could have opted solely for big performance numbers, but our focus for the 2.0T was a more balanced package."

GENESIS COUPE PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS
With the start of U.S. market production now just a few months away, Hyundai Motor America is releasing model configuration and color choices for the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.
"Genesis sedan has set a new benchmark for the $35,000-$40,000 premium sedan, and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe segment," Krafcik said. "From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure intercooled 4-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8 Track model with an estimated 310-hp and Brembo braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes."

There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:
• 2.0T
• 2.0T Premium
• 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)
• 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)
• 3.8
• 3.8 Grand Touring
• 3.8 Track

GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE
Standard equipment includes:

• 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
• M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
• 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
• Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
• 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
• 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
• Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
• Strut brace
• Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
• Tire Pressure Monitoring System
• Front, side, side air curtain air bags
• Active front head restraints
• Driver's lumbar support
• Black-out front lower fascia
• Trip computer
• Air conditioning
• Satin silver and chrome interior accents
• Keyless entry system
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
• Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
• AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
• USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
• Steering wheel audio controls
• Cruise control
• Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
• Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
• Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)

The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
• Power driver seat
• 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
• Smart Key with push-button start
• Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
• Sunroof
• Navigation system (mid-year availability)


The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
• 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
• Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
• Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
• Torsen-type limited-slip differential
• Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
• Aluminum pedals
• Aero windshield wipers
• Rear spoiler
• Xenon HID headlamps
• Fog lamps
• Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
• Navigation system (mid-year availability)
• Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track

Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
• 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
• 6-speed manual transmission
• Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
• 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
• Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
• Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace)
• Torsen-type limited-slip differential
• Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
• Tire Pressure Monitoring System
• Front, side, side air curtain air bags
• Active front head restraints
• Driver's lumbar support
• Air conditioning
• Keyless entry system
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
• Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
• AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
• USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
• Projector beam headlamps
• Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
• Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec

GENESIS 3.8: 310 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR – A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS

Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
• 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top speed of 149 mph
• M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
• Black leather seats
• Fully automatic temperature control
• Premium door sill plates
• Chrome front fascia accents

In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
• Unique brown leather seat interior environment
• Power driver seat
• Heated driver and passenger seat
• 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
• Smart Key with push-button start
• Xenon HID headlamps
• Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
• Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
• Backup warning system
• Sunroof
• Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
• Black leather seats
• 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
• Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
• Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
• Torsen-type limited-slip differential
• Aluminum pedals
• Aero windshield wipers
• Rear spoiler
• Black-out front lower fascia
• Xenon HID headlamps
• Fog lamps
• Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)


Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:
• Karussell White
• Bathurst Black
• Silverstone
• Nordschleife Gray
• Acqua Minerale Blue
• Tsukuba Red
• Mirabeau Blue
• Lime Rock Green
• Interlagos Yellow

Genesis Coupe features four different interior themes:
• Black environment, premium black cloth seats (2.0T, 2.0T Premium, R-Spec)
• Black environment, black leather-bolstered seats with high-friction red cloth insert (2.0T Track)
• Black environment, black leather seats (3.8, 3.8 Track)
• Black environment, saddle brown leather seats (3.8 Grand Touring)

Impressive car, but pricing will be critical...and not a word on that yet. It beats the crap out of an Accord 6MT, and I own one.

And for those nay sayers, Hyundai is not your early 80s Excel anymore. Plus with a 10-yr/100K warranty, RWD coupe and sedan, DOHC V6 engines, and even a DOHC V8, they're doing MUCH better than Honda lately. Hope that awakes the 'performance first' giant :lmao:.

I will be eying the 3.8L Grand Touring 6MT model when the time comes. Maybe this time next year....just to let the morons who have to be first pay sticker while I get it for invoice :D

Very impressive, from the engine to the standard equipment offered. Plus 30 MPG in the 2.0T...i bet these will be EVERYWHERE in a few years.

.....o/a length is damn near 20 inches less than my 6M.............

Seems like a decent 'little' coupe. (The price however is not about to be 'little'.....)



I would think a whole passel more than the 23.4k Naval Reserve bread I laid out for the 6M...........

Ahhhhhhhh...............the agony of choice.

best, ez....