I'm not a big fan of Honda OEM tires. I have a base 09 sedan with the Dunlop sports. I'm looking for a tire that is very quiet, rides good and has good all season performance. My choices are:

Michelin Primancy
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity

The Michelins are rated slighty better than the Turanzas but both are close. Money is not an issue . I'm keeping the same tire size. Has anybody swapped tires out with comfort in mind and noticed a big difference in noise and ride?

Brigsestion Adrenalin the best now try it.

I have the primacys, I think that they have both improved the ride and the noise levels. Most important to me was a vast improvement in traction.

Brigsestion Adrenalin the best now try it.

I hope you don't take this personally, but shut up. I really want to say that you are inconsiderate of the OP's original question. What kind of a freaking answer is Bridgestone (you welcome for the name correction) Adrenaline and just stopping. I'm assuming that the OP is in the USA, so he would have NO IDEA of what Adrenaline stands for. I had to use google myself to find out what it is. Bridgestone Adrenaline seems to stand for Bridgestone Potenza RE001. Why would you suggest a tire like that if he already told you the kind of tire he is looking for. I'm not trying to be mean, or make an enemy on the boards, but all im saying is THINK about the question at hand before you allow your hands type an answer that just wont do.
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To give you a suggestion of where you should be looking for a replacement set of tires for your Base 09 Sedan:

I believe you are on the right track with the Turanza Serenity tires. Looking at their specs on the Bridgestone website, their description seems to be ideal for what you are looking at. I remember my GEN VII Accord LX came with the Michellin MXV4 S8 tires and they were awful, at least I thought so. I replaced them with Bridgestone Potenza RE960 Pole Position. Those tires are rated at 400 AA (Traction) A (Temperature). They are the best tires i've ever driven on. The Turanza Serenity tire is rated at 440 AA A, so judging from past experience, your consideration of Turanza Serenity is right on the money.

I understand you are looking for a tire that is quiet, but the volume of any sound is subjective in its perception to the human ear, so I will say that to me the Potenza's were relatively quiet on the highway, and I always listen to music so I didn't notice them, I just noticed how well they worked in the dry and wet. My only other recommendation would be the BFGoodrich Traction T/A V speed rating. After looking on tirerack at specs and reviews, they seem to be a solid all-season tire.

I am personally also in the market looking for new tires for my 6-6, and I think I'm going to get the Michellin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (Rated at 500 AA A). If those tires were available in your size, I'd recommend those because after all the reading I did on tirerack and other sources, the seem to handle everything well. Cannot comment about the road noise. Also, stay away from Michellin touring tires, i can't speak for all of them, but the MXV4 S8's i had were just down right terrible and also very expensive to replace.

I hope this helps you make your decision.

I have the primacys, I think that they have both improved the ride and the noise levels. Most important to me was a vast improvement in traction.

Primacy MXV4 215/50-R17 91H earmarked to replace my OEM Mich HX MXM4 93V...................

When you indicate Primacy improved noise level, appreciate knowing which was the other tire compared. Tks.

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I think what I had was the bridgestone turanza EL41.

I hope you don't take this personally, but shut up. I really want to say that you are inconsiderate of the OP's original question. What kind of a freaking answer is Bridgestone (you welcome for the name correction) Adrenaline and just stopping. I'm assuming that the OP is in the USA, so he would have NO IDEA of what Adrenaline stands for. I had to use google myself to find out what it is. Bridgestone Adrenaline seems to stand for Bridgestone Potenza RE001. Why would you suggest a tire like that if he already told you the kind of tire he is looking for. I'm not trying to be mean, or make an enemy on the boards, but all im saying is THINK about the question at hand before you allow your hands type an answer that just wont do.

You need to calm down a little bit. They were just trying to help. And I don't know if you noticed they are from Syria, perhaps their English is not that great and they did not want to expound. The guy would have NO IDEA that we don't get such a tire in the USA. On top of that, how would you know what a RE001 rides likes, or how loud it is? If you've never tried it, for all you know it's very quiet and smooth compared to the OEM's. If you bothered to google for 5 minutes more, you would have found that indeed they are getting decent reviews on the noise/comfort front. Oh and BTW you misspelled Adrenalin...Bridgestone spells it with no e.

My only other recommendation would be the BFGoodrich Traction T/A V speed rating. After looking on tirerack at specs and reviews, they seem to be a solid all-season tire.


Another vote for these tires. I have them on my car and the car handles a lot better. Also I live in the northeast, so I get to deal with a LOT of snow. These tires are one of the better all season tires. As for noise I think they are a little quieter but it's not by much.
For me these are the best tires out there, great handling in all conditions and don't cost a small fortune either.

You need to calm down a little bit. They were just trying to help. And I don't know if you noticed they are from Syria, perhaps their English is not that great and they did not want to expound. The guy would have NO IDEA that we don't get such a tire in the USA. On top of that, how would you know what a RE001 rides likes, or how loud it is? If you've never tried it, for all you know it's very quiet and smooth compared to the OEM's. If you bothered to google for 5 minutes more, you would have found that indeed they are getting decent reviews on the noise/comfort front. Oh and BTW you misspelled Adrenalin...Bridgestone spells it with no e.

Alright, point taken. However, if the guy is looking for a touring tire, why would one suggest something that is just not a touring tire and wouldn't have the properties of a touring tire and wouldn't come in the size required. And I'm being respectful to where he is from, but you can't just blurt something out w/o backing it up. If you are going to give suggestions on tires, back it up with something.

I hope you don't take this personally, but shut up. I really want to say that you are inconsiderate of the OP's original question. What kind of a freaking answer is Bridgestone (you welcome for the name correction) Adrenaline and just stopping. I'm assuming that the OP is in the USA, so he would have NO IDEA of what Adrenaline stands for. I had to use google myself to find out what it is. Bridgestone Adrenaline seems to stand for Bridgestone Potenza RE001. Why would you suggest a tire like that if he already told you the kind of tire he is looking for. I'm not trying to be mean, or make an enemy on the boards, but all im saying is THINK about the question at hand before you allow your hands type an answer that just wont do.
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Geez......Lighten up Francis

Alright, point taken. However, if the guy is looking for a touring tire, why would one suggest something that is just not a touring tire and wouldn't have the properties of a touring tire and wouldn't come in the size required. And I'm being respectful to where he is from, but you can't just blurt something out w/o backing it up. If you are going to give suggestions on tires, back it up with something.

Because you're doing yourself no favors if you're limiting yourself to "touring" tires...what exactly are touring tires? My General Exclaim UHP's are listed as "Ultra High Performance Summer" tires and they are whisper quiet and very cushy in the ride department.

Because you're doing yourself no favors if you're limiting yourself to "touring" tires...what exactly are touring tires? My General Exclaim UHP's are listed as "Ultra High Performance Summer" tires and they are whisper quiet and very cushy in the ride department.

Right Ben, because everyone has money to run 2 sets of tires and/or rims. Touring tires, and in this particular case ALL SEASON Touring tires because that is the initial request of the OP, are tires that are:


Standard Touring All-Season Tires

You want all-season versatility (including light snow traction) along with enhanced handling and treadwear, as well as good noise and ride comfort.

Branded with the M+S symbol and capable of providing year-round traction (even in light snow), these tires are designed to blend a performance tire's appearance with a passenger tire's smooth, quite ride. Standard Touring tires are typically available in the lower speed ratings and higher aspect ratio sizes and place more emphasis on ride comfort and treadwear than Grand Touring tires. **From Tirerack.com **

Its not about doing yourself favors or not. It is my understanding that this a forum and if someone has a question, you answer it diligently in order to maintain this a content rich forum. What I have been doing is offering advice relevant to the question. But opinions need to be confined to the relevant topic at hand, not what is possible with unlimited resources, but within the limits of the poster (and even though he said money is no object, he didn't say that he is willing to run different sets of tires for different seasons). Ideally, everyone who lives in the parts of the world that experiences the 4 seasons would use 2 sets of tires (Summer and Winter), but, this isn't an ideal world because we must compromise.

With that said, I'm not going to post anymore, because I'm realizing that some individuals here are not as interested in making certain threads (such as this one) more fact based as opposed to opinion based or just give inadequate answers to questions.

With that said, I'm not going to post anymore, because I'm realizing that some individuals here are not as interested in making certain threads (such as this one) more fact based as opposed to opinion based or just give inadequate answers to questions.

What in the world are you talking about? First of all, we will state this trivial fact: both tires the OP listed are "Grand Touring" and not "Standard Touring." But more importantly, please show me where I ask anybody to run two sets of tires? I NEVER suggested that the OP should run a summer tire, I was simply proving a point that limiting yourself is absolute stupidity if you ask me.

I provide for example, other great tires that are NOT Standard Touring All-Seasons, that still receive great ratings in snow, some of which have been recommended by others:

Potenza G019 - "High Performance" All Season
Pilot Sport A/S Plus - "Ultra High Performance" All Season (read reviews for snow ratings)
ContiExtremeContact - "Ultra High Performance" All Season

Let's talk some more tire facts. You stated you put on RE960's...which are also Ultra High Performance All Season tires. You go on to compare the RE960 to the Serenity/Pilot by using the UTQG rating. You forget to mention that the treadwear ratings are completely arbitrary and are defined solely at the discretion of each individual tire company. Furthermore, the UTQG ratings have absolutely nothing to do with actual traction available on a dry or snowy surface, they are only defined by how quickly they stop on a wet course. They do not give ANY indication of dry traction, or wet/snow cornering ability.

And finally, let's talk about forums. This is a question that is almost entirely opinion based - unless you can tell me how the average forum poster will quantify noise levels and lateral grip levels without using sophisticated equipment/equations? And on top of that, I found the comment about the Bridgestone Adrenalin to be quite interesting - it led me to investigate a tire that I had never heard of before. Sure, maybe it isn't the best answer for the OP - but is it right that learning is sacrificed because you didn't like the guys answer? I didn't realize that "I had to use Google to find it" is a bad thing - we are encouraged to use Google to help us learn in college nowadays. It may not have been the best answer but I have never seen anybody tell another person to shut up and then follow it with "I'm not trying to be mean."

Thanks to everbody for their great advice. YRMED- Excellent write up. I'm going to price out both and see what happens. $165.00 per tire(list). Since I live in Denver I'm thinking the Michelins have a slight edge. (According to Tire rack and some user reviews)

Just a side note- I was at a Toyota dealer getting something for my Tacoma and ended test driving a 08 4-Runner. Wow- I could not not believe how quiet that truck was. It was the six and it seemed pretty fast to me. The sales person said I could buy a 08 for about 26k. Not bad......................

Went to Discount and got new rims(Enkel) and tires. They had no Primancy's or Turanza's in stock and would have to order them. So I gambled and had them install Michelin Harmony/Destinys and they sucked big time. Noisy and hard would describe them. They were cheap- $100 per tire. Anyway, I had them take the tires off and put my Dunlops back on. Much better to my surprise. I will run these Dunlops down and then spend the big bucks on some Grand touring tire. If you read Tire racks review of the Destiny it recieved an postive review, even the user reviews for the most part were postive as far as noise and ride. Maybe these Dunlops are as good as it gets?