nat. gas

[psyshack]

Saw a natural gas civic today at a Tulsa dealer. New and unused. Bet that will be a big seller in Okiehoma... NOT!!!

[RTexasF]

and Alaska! With all the Tex-Mex food available here my car seems to be powered by natural gas but from the inside!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xcel]

Hi Psyshack:

___Although a CNG Civic’s fuel ups are relatively inexpensive per mile driven and it has very low SMOG based emissions (~ equivalent to the PZEV based I4 Accord and HCH), its extremely limited range and high initial cost even after incentives make it a poor replacement choice for most unfortunately :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

[Inspector1]

So with a limitied range it must be a dedicated CNG vehicle???

I have not seen the CNG Civic!!

I would have to agree to not selling many dedicated CNG Vehicles.....
Now BI-fuel yes.... It is a very good investment for large utility companies :yes:

Also the limited amount of fueling sites has hurt CNG also!

I1 :)

[xcel]

Hi I1:

___You can read about the Civic GX directly from Honda: Civic GX NGV (http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+GX&bhcp=1&BrowserDetected=True) as well as plenty of discussion about the CNG powered Civic here (http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@39.abnmdalLyuV.0@.ef361b5/0).

___At $21,760 minus whatever incentives you can come up with, its rather short 200 mile range, and less power available then a regular Civic, it is a bit steep. The home refueling stations are not free either but they are very convenient.

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

[SSMV6]

Until they have natural gas widely availailable at gas stations, say good bye to road trips!

[Bigbucks1959]

I thought I also read it takes 8 hours to refuel them :thumbsdow

Phil K.

Hi I1:

___You can read about the Civic GX directly from Honda: Civic GX NGV (http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+GX&bhcp=1&BrowserDetected=True) as well as plenty of discussion about the CNG powered Civic here (http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@39.abnmdalLyuV.0@.ef361b5/0).

___At $21,760 minus whatever incentives you can come up with, its rather short 200 mile range, and less power available then a regular Civic, it is a bit steep. The home refueling stations are not free either but they are very convenient.

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

[BenjiBoy650]

We have several natural gas stations in the bay area because a lot of city vehicles run on them. Honda also provides you with a home kit so you can get natural gas from your house into your gas tank, I thought that was rather funny :lmao: Anyways my friend works for the city, he says these cars are sparkly clean. Change the oil at 15-20K miles, looks just as nice as the stuff you go to put in it.

[SSMV6]

I know most of the Buses around here runs off CNG now. It's a lot cleaner, but I still don't see any CNG stations... Clean air technology usually starts off in Cali, then extends to NYC/ Mass afterwards. Maybe in the next couple of years, CNG stations will start popping up just like stations carrying diesel fuels. :thmsup:

[BenjiBoy650]

Sometimes they're kind of hidden. Most of them are probably on city lots where the average Joe wouldn't see it or be able to get in. There is one lot right behind the walls that block the huge drafts from jets (747's!) taking off at SFO.

[mrjtree]

Rented one from Budget while in Washington, D.C. The rental agent asked if I was planning on driving more than about 200 miles and explained why. Nonetheless, the car came with a list of refueling sites. The engine ran just like a regular Civic. The engine's acceleration seemed fine. It started and idled just like a non-ng Civic. Only annoyance was the transmission which was a CVT. Between the first 10 to 15 feet of accelerating, the tranny made a grinding noise and the car would lunge forward for about a foot than return to its regular rate of acceleration. Then again, it had been driven about 10,000 rental car miles which equates to who knows how many non-rental car miles....50,000?