Anyone have a DIY to shut off DRL on the 2008 Accord Sedans V6?

Pull the fuse

Why disable DRLs? I'll never understand people who want to disable any safety features... (Anyway, if the car came with it from the factory, it is illegal to do so...)

[QUOTE=giltibo;386324]Why disable DRLs? I'll never understand people who want to disable any safety features... (Anyway, if the car came with it from the factory, it is illegal to do so

This topic has been discussed @ length in the past...Use SEARCH Function.
DRL's are mandatory in Canada, not in the good ol USA.

DRL's are mandatory in Canada, not in the good ol USA.
Yep. That makes it a feature, not a safety feature. And that feature SUCKS :lmao:.

OP, just look for the fuse number in your owner's manual... or do a search, as suggested. Don't remember from the top of my head the fuse number, since I did it since day 1, almost a year ago. Take care.

Fuse #15 inside fuse box located in driver side kick panel..

SEARCH!!

I must not have put the right terms for the search because I couldn't find it. None the less, thanks to those of you that responded. I think DRL are useless, why would you want your high beams to be running during the day? If you're too dumb to figure out that your headlights aren't on in the dark, then you shouldn't really be driving.

will it void the warranty? how about passing inspections?

I agree with you. I think DRL's are for the brain dead. There is no federal requirement for them and I'm quite sure no state requires them either. As a result there is no way you could fail an inspection for not having them. Since they are voluntary I don't see how they can effect your warranty.


DOT/NHTSA has also recently done a study and found DRL's to be ineffective. As I understand it, GM petitioned the government to make DRL's mandatory. As a result the gov't did a study but found no benefit to DRL's and declined to require them. Check out the pdf posted 9-18-08 in this link.

http://www.regulations.gov/search/search_results.jsp?css=0&N=0&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchall&Ne=2+8+11+8053+8054+8098+8074+8066+8084+8055&Ntt=The%20Effectiveness%20of%20Daytime%20Running%2 0Lights%20for%20Passenger%20Vehicles&sid=11F9EB9E8FEC

Anything that makes my car more visible to other vehicles I likeeeee for safety.

i took mineout today, i mean pull out the fuse.

Take a closer look at the DOT laws for the USA. If a car is equipped with a DRL it must work, as must ALL bulbs legally. You can add lights but you cant take them away from a OEM setup. If you were in a wreck and the ambulance chasing lawyer from the INS co found out you pulled the DRL fuse, watch out it might be ugly!!!!

can anyone show a pic to show which exact fuse to pull out? PLEASE!

Take a closer look at the DOT laws for the USA. If a car is equipped with a DRL it must work, as must ALL bulbs legally.

Do you have a link for the DOT regulation or at least the source for your info? This is the first time I've heard this claim. Interesting. All the bulbs do work. Our cars (7th gen for sure) use the high beams for the DRL's. The high beam bulbs works fine. Some of us just choose not to use them for non required DRL's.

DOT/NHTSA has also recently done a study and found DRL's to be ineffective. As I understand it, GM petitioned the government to make DRL's mandatory. As a result the gov't did a study but found no benefit to DRL's and declined to require them. Check out the pdf posted 9-18-08 in this link.

http://www.regulations.gov/search/search_results.jsp?css=0&N=0&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchall&Ne=2+8+11+8053+8054+8098+8074+8066+8084+8055&Ntt=The%20Effectiveness%20of%20Daytime%20Running%2 0Lights%20for%20Passenger%20Vehicles&sid=11F9EB9E8FEC

I browsed through the study, but found some things interesting...

1. There are references to multiple international studies that came to the conclusion that DRLs do reduce crashes (page 16).

2. There were many variables it did not take into consideration like road and weather conditions. Time of day (dusk/dawn) appears to be the only variable that they include, which didn't have an impact on the results.

3. Whether or not vehicles without DRLs had their headlights on or not were not taken into consideration, as police accident reports did not include this.

4. The majority of the vehicles in the study were GM (86%). Toyota had the next highest percentage (only 9%), and no Hondas were included. This was due to the fact that the data used was from 2000-2005 (before Honda added DRLs to vehicles).

I'm not saying that the study is flawed, but rather that their conclusion does have some caveats, which people may or may not be aware of.

Do you have a link for the DOT regulation or at least the source for your info? This is the first time I've heard this claim. Interesting. All the bulbs do work. Our cars (7th gen for sure) use the high beams for the DRL's. The high beam bulbs works fine. Some of us just choose not to use them for non required DRL's.

yup.......QUOTE
"S5.5.10 The wiring requirements for lighting equipment in use are:
(a) Turn signal lamps, hazard warning signal lamps, and school bus
warning lamps shall be wired to flash;
(b) Headlamps and side marker lamps may be wired to flash for
signaling purposes;
(c) A motorcycle headlamp may be wired to allow either its upper
beam or its lower beam, but not both, to modulate from a higher
intensity to a lower intensity in accordance with section S5.6;
(d) All other lamps shall be wired to be steady-burning.
S5.5.11(a) Any pair of lamps on the front of a passenger car,
multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus, whether or not required
by this standard, other than parking lamps or fog lamps, may be wired to
be automatically activated, as determined by the manufacturer of the
vehicle, in a steady burning state as daytime running lamps (DRLs) and
to be automatically deactivated when the headlamp control is in any
``on'' position, and as
otherwise determined by the manufacturer of the vehicle, provided that
each such lamp" etc.....

taken in part from DOT standard 108......

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2004/octqtr/49cfr571.108.htm
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Take a closer look at the DOT laws for the USA. If a car is equipped with a DRL it must work, as must ALL bulbs legally. You can add lights but you cant take them away from a OEM setup. If you were in a wreck and the ambulance chasing lawyer from the INS co found out you pulled the DRL fuse, watch out it might be ugly!!!!

Thanks for your subsequent cite. But after reading it I don't get anywhere near your interpretation. I see nothing mandating that DRL's must work. I see it as a section defining which bulbs can flash and which must be steady state. It further goes on to set standards for DRL's which is good to see since some of the earlier DRL's (early Saturns for example) were quite blinding.

Thanks. After reading the section I have no fear of lawyers coming after me for disabling my DRL's!

can anyone show a pic to show which exact fuse to pull out? PLEASE!

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showpost.php?p=397352&postcount=3

Thanks for your subsequent cite. But after reading it I don't get anywhere near your interpretation. I see nothing mandating that DRL's must work. I see it as a section defining which bulbs can flash and which must be steady state. It further goes on to set standards for DRL's which is good to see since some of the earlier DRL's (early Saturns for example) were quite blinding.

Thanks. After reading the section I have no fear of lawyers coming after me for disabling my DRL's!

:lmao: Sorry for adding FACTS and links with the laws on DRL's to the thread, what was I thinking by trying to help. Try rereading the part as determined by the manufacturer of the
vehicle What part are you not following?! It clearly states it is set by the OEM NOT the consumer that bought the car. So technically it is against the law to disable DRL's on a car that has them as original equipment. This is very simple.:dunno:

:lmao: Sorry for adding FACTS and links with the laws on DRL's to the thread, what was I thinking by trying to help. Try rereading the part as determined by the manufacturer of the
vehicle What part are you not following?! It clearly states it is set by the OEM NOT the consumer that bought the car. So technically it is against the law to disable DRL's on a car that has them as original equipment. This is very simple.:dunno:

I'm not going to use any rolling smiley faces or any underlined bold facts.

But I am going to insist that nothing you have provided supports anything you said in your post # 11. Nothing there says it "technically it is against the law to disable DRL's on a car that has them as original equipment." Nor "Take a closer look at the DOT laws for the USA. If a car is equipped with a DRL it must work, as must ALL bulbs legally. You can add lights but you cant take them away from a OEM setup."


I originally thought that you found one of those "Catch 22" things. An obtuse law that banned disabling DRL's even though there is no federal or state (US) law that requires them! Maybe you read differently than I do. There is certainly room for that. Part of what makes our country great in my opinion. Are you an attorney? Because nothing I read there seems to support what you are saying as above.

Maybe some other forum readers can take a look at the info and determine how they interpret whether the DOT information that 09^CPB6^6MT provided (thanks again for the cite) supports that the Dot regs say clearly that it is illegal to disable your DRL's.

But I am going to insist that nothing you have provided supports anything you said in your post # 11. Nothing there says it "technically it is against the law to disable DRL's on a car that has them as original equipment." Nor "Take a closer look at the DOT laws for the USA. If a car is equipped with a DRL it must work, as must ALL bulbs legally. You can add lights but you cant take them away from a OEM setup."


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So by disabling your DRL's your not removing a light from the car as it was manufactured? I am not trying to argue, just trying to show my point.

For the record, I work as a location tech for a top auto advertiser with quite a few OEM's Honda/Acura included as customers. It is my job to know laws such as lighting to name one. If I get it wrong or don't do it legally by the book, then the ad is worthless as soon as the legal department sees it.

So by disabling your DRL's your not removing a light from the car as it was manufactured? I am not trying to argue, just trying to show my point.

For the record, I work as a location tech for a top auto advertiser with quite a few OEM's Honda/Acura included as customers. It is my job to know laws such as lighting to name one. If I get it wrong or don't do it legally by the book, then the ad is worthless as soon as the legal department sees it.

I don't see anywhere in the part of the DOT requirements that you posted where it says you cannot disable any lights.

S5.5.10 The wiring requirements for lighting equipment in use are: (applies to this subsection only)
(a) Turn signal lamps, hazard warning signal lamps, and school bus
warning lamps shall be wired to flash; (says turn signals, hazards, and school bus warning lights have to flash)
(b) Headlamps and side marker lamps may be wired to flash for
signaling purposes; (says headlights and side markers are allowed to flash as turn signals)
(c) A motorcycle headlamp may be wired to allow either its upper
beam or its lower beam, but not both, to modulate from a higher
intensity to a lower intensity in accordance with section S5.6; (says motorcycle high or low beam, but not both, is allowed to modulate in intensity)
(d) All other lamps shall be wired to be steady-burning. (says all other lights have to be steady burning meaning they cannot flash, not that they have to be on all the time or that you cannot disable them)
S5.5.11(a)(new subsection) Any pair of lamps on the front of a passenger car, multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus, whether or not required by this standard, other than parking lamps or fog lamps, may be wired to be automatically activated, as determined by the manufacturer of the vehicle, in a steady burning state as daytime running lamps (DRLs) (this is saying that any 2 lights on the front can be wired to automatically turn on if the vehicle manufacturer desires and that they cannot flash, it does not say that the consumer cannot disable them) and to be automatically deactivated when the headlamp control is in any
``on'' position, and as otherwise determined by the manufacturer of the vehicle, provided that each such lamp:

And then it goes on to talk about limits on DRLs, such as max height, intensity, color, etc. but it does not say the consumer cannot remove DRLs if they are installed as OEM.

I've contacted the US DOT and am waiting for a response on this particular question. Once I receive their reply, I will post it up here.

I've contacted the US DOT and am waiting for a response on this particular question. Once I receive their reply, I will post it up here.

Any word back from DOT? It's already been almost two weeks, but then again it's a government agency. I'll check back in 6 months or so.

Any word back from DOT? It's already been almost two weeks, but then again it's a government agency. I'll check back in 6 months or so.

No word yet... but like you said, it's a govt agency. I've resubmitted the question just in case it was lost.

For all I know, they could be having an intern or research assistant combing through all their regulations to interpret them.

As soon as I hear back, I'll post it up here.

DOT finally got back to me. They directed me to the NHTSA. We'll see how long they take to get back to me.

DOT finally got back to me. They directed me to the NHTSA. We'll see how long they take to get back to me.

I'm guessing at least a month until they tell you to ask the DOT.

my sh!t is turned off now... White car in the daytime is hard to miss...

If it's day time, you should see a car regardless of DRL's (it's not like Honda made a light to be on on all sides of our vehicle to be seen during the day, just the front. Plus, I can't tell that they are on unless I look directly at the front when standing in front of the car during sunlight). If it's dusk or dawn, I was always taught to turn on the actual headlights. Also, if some want to argue weather conditions play a factor in the effectiveness of DRL's, shouldn't your headlights be on if it's raining in the first place? I took my fuse out just because I hated that I couldn't turn off my lights at night without turning off the car completely.

P.S., had my #15 fuse out for the past year, no accidents!