I have an alignment question regarding my 08. For those of you who dont know I installed the Eibach pro-kit and have about 500 miles with them. I did not install a camber kit (is there one avail. for my car???). I took her in to get aligned after the install and the rear camber is out. The specs call for
-1.8 to -0.5 degrees. Currently my rear left is -2.5 and rear right is -2.9. This means I am out .7 and .9 degress. The tire guy told me this should not be a problem and "should not" wear tires. What do you guys think??? In looking at the rear tires it almost seems like you can see a bit of a, for lack of a better word, tilt. See pics. Any input would be helpful, thanks!

That looks pretty bad, you will wear out inside edge of the tires.

your car will work fine at those camber levels, BUT you will notice abnormal tire wear on the inside shoulder... as you would expect. It will take thousands of mile to manifest

Cars run negative camber normally and while yours may be pretty negative you should not experience to much abnormal tire wear due to camber. Your biggest worry and tire wearer is toe. That is what will account for the most tire wear.

weird... my eibach causes the slantedness too but isn't as noticeable as that

Cars run negative camber normally and while yours may be pretty negative you should not experience to much abnormal tire wear due to camber. Your biggest worry and tire wearer is toe. That is what will account for the most tire wear.

Yeah my toe is good and within specs. So Aviography doesnt know what he is talking about? So about how many miles until I notice premature tire wear? 50-60k miles or sooner? BTW, the car rides perfect and I dont notice any abnormal ride qualities, almost feels stock.

my educated guess, 25 to 30k miles will be a good time to change your tires. And 25 to 30K with rotations, w/o rotations, even faster.

Yeah my toe is good and within specs. So Aviography doesnt know what he is talking about? So about how many miles until I notice premature tire wear? 50-60k miles or sooner? BTW, the car rides perfect and I dont notice any abnormal ride qualities, almost feels stock.

Even if you correct it within the next few months, you will eventually see a slight uneven tire wear only because you've been driving on -2.5 camber for these past 500 (or how many more miles) before adjusting. However, your next set of tires should have no problems once you bring the camber back into spec. It really shouldn't be too bad, rear tires on the Accord roll; they don't drive. So, its tire wear is minimum even if the alignment is within spec. :yes:

So Aviography doesnt know what he is talking about? So about how many miles until I notice premature tire wear? 50-60k miles or sooner? BTW, the car rides perfect and I dont notice any abnormal ride qualities, almost feels stock.

Don't matter to me, it's your money that you will be spending on new tires much sooner than everyone else without the much increased negative camber from the drop.

As for "rides perfect and don't notice any abnormal ride qualities", you probably won't notice anything with badly out-of-spec alignment settings, why do you think camber kits are made? Short of trained race car drivers or automotive test engineers, most people can't tell the difference and don't know better until they realized they need new tires.

I had the rear control arms replaced for my Integra a few years ago under factory warranty, I knew from reading the factory service manual that a full 4-wheel alignment needs to be done afterwards, and asked before/after the work was done if the 4-wheel alignment was performed, the Acura dealership said yes. Well they forgot and didn't, one of the rear tire inside shoulder was worn down to the steel belts in one month and the other wasn't much better, it didn't feel any different driving for that whole month!

I went back to the shop and they first said "We checked our records and the alignment wasn't done" as if that was my fault, I kindly reminded the service manager that the factory service manual stated a post control-arm replacement alignment was required, and they had told me they will and have before and after the control arms were replaced, the service manager went very silent at that point and did the alignment for me free of charge, and found two semi-used tires to replace the two rear tires that are now trash. I don't remember how far out the rear alignment was before they finally did the work, but it wasn't much more than the number you have.

For those who feel the -2.5 to -2.9 degrees "aren't so bad", please remember two things:

- What is the optimum setting? So how much out-of-spec is the -2.5 or -2.9 degrees? The -0.5 to -1.8 is the "maximum" range, so I would view the -2.9 degrees as 2.4 degress more than the -0.5 degree number, think about that!

- Is the alignment machine reading properly? It doesn't take much to accumulate some initial offset without even knowing it, so the actual numbers maybe more than the -2.5/-2.9 degrees OP is reporting, especially judging by the pictures.

But hey, it's your car, your tires, your money, why should I care? :dunno:

It looks better with the camber that way.:naughty: My camber is off in the rear to -3.5 on left and -3.73 on right and thats from the H&R drop. Im going to take my sedan to a custom alignment shop and have them bend my stock camber within specs. No telling when a camber kit
will be available and Im not going to wait any longer. I already got 1k on the drop.

keep tire psi adjusted, rotate regularly, and you should be fine. but a camber kit will help

Selected Year: 2008 / Make: HONDA Model: Accord, 2 & 4-door, 2.4L I4
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00554.2.4110189519900011612

Selected Year: 2008 / Make: HONDA Model: Accord, 2 & 4-door, 3.5L V6
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00554.2.4260500198300011612

Selected Year: 2008 / Make: HONDA Model: Accord, 2 & 4-door, 2.4L I4
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00554.2.4110189519900011612

Selected Year: 2008 / Make: HONDA Model: Accord, 2 & 4-door, 3.5L V6
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00554.2.4260500198300011612

Those are front camber kits, which is clearly stated on the links you posted. No one has a problem with the front camber after installing lowering springs, only the rear camber.

Mine are the same way. I rotated my tires and no unusual wear. Alot of ppl says its not that bad. Well at least not like this.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq359/Honda247_2008/Lowered%20Civics/2n99wsw.jpg

Back to the same old issue. I wish people would use the search function first.

Yes, if you lower your new Accord it will have negative rear camber. This cannot be adjusted with an alignment with the factory OEM components. It is worse with coupes than sedans. Look at the specs for the HFP kit for what the camber tolerances are. There is not, from what I have read and heard so far, a rear camber kit available. Please rotate your tires on a regular basis and wait for a rear camber kit. Have a nice day.

That civic looks sick...
Any more pics???

That civic looks sick...
Any more pics???

This all i got.....
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq359/Honda247_2008/Lowered%20Civics/2n99wsw.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq359/Honda247_2008/Lowered%20Civics/2ron6hk.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq359/Honda247_2008/Lowered%20Civics/e7fklk.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq359/Honda247_2008/Lowered%20Civics/o85953.jpg

Nice:thmsup:

So does anyone have any estimates as to when the camber kit will be avail. for our cars? I think once its in production it would be the obvious thing to do.

Those are front camber kits, which is clearly stated on the links you posted. No one has a problem with the front camber after installing lowering springs, only the rear camber.

why is it that you do not need a front camber kit only the rear? thanks

why is it that you do not need a front camber kit only the rear? thanks

Because the front camber stays in spec even after the car is lowered.

Hello! My name is Travis from Specialty Products. There is an application to meet your needs. The part you should check out is a #67540 (http://www.spcalignment.com/PROD_DIR/SPC_PROD_SEARCH_DYN.cfm?cmd=Cam&cmd2=67540*&cmd3=). That is for rear camber on lowered 08+ Accords. Let me know if you have any questions.

In my opinion, it's dumb not to get a camber kit. It costs about $200 from SPC. I would rather spend that now then pay 3 times that much for new tires...which you WILL need to do.

Get the camber kit.

EDIT: Go to link that SPC posted above. That is where I got mine. Put my camber back in spec perfectly.

Yes, just get the SPC camber kit. It's inexpensive, very high quality, and an easy install. There is a DIY with pictures and tools needed in the DIY section.

x2 on the SPC, I don't have it on my accord but previous car. Excellent customer service too.

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