So, I went to the dealer yesterday for my "B1" service and they give me all of my diagnostics and I'm told my front breaks are at 8/10 and my back brakes are at 4/10.. whats up with this? The dealer didn't say there was anything wrong with it.. and I only have 11k miles on it.

Back brakes wear out prematurely. Its a known problem. Search the forum.

there is no problem... that how fast the rears wear out.

Its definitely a problem. Not a catastrophe, but a problem in their design. Honda used front brakes from like the 1999-2003 CL/CL-S on the 08/09 Accords, meanwhile the CL weighed less, so Honda added EBD to balance out the front brakes so they don't warm every 500 miles, thereby increased wear in the rear. I think thats a logical explanation and a crappy design. I think the Accord needs bigger rotors/calipers stock.

My rears are going now and I'm at 26,000 Miles...

26k is not that bad at all

and I thought 34K was too soon on my 04 TL! Lol...wow...my gf has actually been complaining about a squeal from the rear of her 08 coupe...17K miles. I guess pads may need to be changed already! I'll probably opt for duralast from autozone with lifetime warranty even on wear....especially if i have to do it every 15K miles for her.

there is no problem... that how fast the rears wear out.

Yup they wear out fast because of a design flaw. Material in pad is too soft. You might like having to change your pads every 15k miles but most people don't.

and I thought 34K was too soon on my 04 TL! Lol...wow...my gf has actually been complaining about a squeal from the rear of her 08 coupe...17K miles. I guess pads may need to be changed already! I'll probably opt for duralast from autozone with lifetime warranty even on wear....especially if i have to do it every 15K miles for her.

Might warp your rotors with those pads due to an increase in heat. The pads might last forever but the rotors will wear down a lot faster.

Might warp your rotors with those pads due to an increase in heat. The pads might last forever but the rotors will wear down a lot faster.

What experiences have you had that an increase in head was generated by using Duralast pads over any other pad? As far as I know, a brake pad will generate large amounts of heat when braking relatively strongly regardless of who it's made by...

26k is not that bad at all

Not when every other car I've owned went at least 50K between brake replacements lol, but for 08 accords apparently it's good.

I drive to much for new rear brakes every 20-30k miles. Anyone know of 3rd party replacements that work better?

What experiences have you had that an increase in head was generated by using Duralast pads over any other pad? As far as I know, a brake pad will generate large amounts of heat when braking relatively strongly regardless of who it's made by...

Lots of mechanics who don't work at dealerships. Call around and ask if you want to make sure. I'm just going from what I have heard over the years.

I guess pads may need to be changed already! I'll probably opt for duralast from autozone with lifetime warranty even on wear....especially if i have to do it every 15K miles for her.

Do not buy lifetime warranty crap pads. Spend some money and get some quality brand name pads. Brake pads are one item you do not want to skimp on.

Well, considering there apparently has been a lot of problems with the brakes is honda going to do a recall or has there already been one?

Lots of mechanics who don't work at dealerships. Call around and ask if you want to make sure. I'm just going from what I have heard over the years.

I guess I've never heard that. Then again, my TL-S brakes were warped starting at like 30k miles... gotta love softer metal rotors. Those things would vibrate like hell if I ever needed to brake quick.

I wasn't planning on getting the Duralast's, but I was just wondering, since I've had friends who've used those on daily driver's with no problems whatsoever. Of course I'll be getting the Hawk's when they come out though, unless I need them beforehand, then I'll at least go OEM.

Well, considering there apparently has been a lot of problems with the brakes is honda going to do a recall or has there already been one?

No recall. Honda says it's a naturally occurring characteristic of the car. It's been like this for a couple years now apparently. Some 7th gen'ers have the same problem.

Ha ha...well...I can tell you that name of the brand is not a good way to purchase your pads. Most are manufactured in the same place, I'm sure. I could have opted for OEM, but it was $200 for the brembo pads and they're KNOWN for warping the rotors due the their "grippiness". Trust me...I researched the heck out of it before making a decision.

Ha ha...well...I can tell you that name of the brand is not a good way to purchase your pads. Most are manufactured in the same place, I'm sure. I could have opted for OEM, but it was $200 for the brembo pads and they're KNOWN for warping the rotors due the their "grippiness". Trust me...I researched the heck out of it before making a decision.


You need to research the composition of the pad not the brand. I can tell you the Lifetime warranty pads are not the way to go as far as optimal composition and wear. Also, $200 for pads is just plain crazy. You can get good quality pads for half that amount and they will equal the performance.

Well, although it's known that you should resurface rotor if you change composition, I opted not to, and I have had 0 issues. Maybe I got lucky but I went from semi met to a ceramic and I've been very happy with the results so far. Great stopping power, much much less dust and at a fraction of the cost! I would have liked to stay Brembo but the maintenance cost and dust was too much for me.

Thank you for the advice though. NOTE: This has a lot to do with the type of driving you do too. If I was into autocross...I would probably have gone for a OEM. But I am just a daily driver with the occasional spirited sprint!

Buy a brand name ceramic pad...I cant speak highly enough of them. Satisfied Pro Ceramic are my fav for the $$ paid.

$40-50 and the problem goes away. This is a DIY job for anyone who can change their own oil.

ceramics last a lot longer too, right? that would be grand for my gf's car then...I'll do that!

Had my rear brakes replaced by honda today @ 27k miles. Front brakes were fine. Tech told me that I should use the parking brake at least one a week and the rears should last longer, something about they stick or get out of alignment and using the Parking break engages and disengages them getting them unstuck, told me he garunteed me they would last longer if i did, he hinted that he didn't put the same pads on that the factory did... and they would last longer... whether or not any of this is true is anyones guess though.

My gf's 08 coupe is having a squeal but only when she's not braking...once it makes the sounds, if she brakes, it stops. We ordered new pads because I can tell the rears are much lower than the front already. Any idea if this could be the parking brake thing...or just a need for pad replacement?

I can't comment on the Duralast but (this has been many years ago) my father used to use Raybestos (lifetime). They were just trash; generated way too much heat and you could smell them with every day use. I hate to say this buy go with OEM unless you want high quality aftermarket pads. Pads like Hawks (fronts available now, rears not yet) or Axxis usually will run double the price of OEM pads.

I had to replace them at 15k miles on my sister's 08. I screwed up the replacement ones because I forgot to match the pin of the pad with the caliper (thanks to the forum) so I changed them again at 24k. It is at 32k now and looks to have over 60% of the pad still left so hopefully this set will last a bit longer. It still squeals like a mother though so I can't wait until the Hawks come out.

I just bought some Wagner ThermoQuiet for my 94 Camry. I bought Wagner rotors too . Paid $148 for the front rotors and pads. I heard Wagner is better than Reybestos. My Camry (I have an 08 Accord too) had the Reybestos rotors and pads and those lasted 40k miles in almost 3 years.

Had my rear brakes replaced by honda today @ 27k miles. Front brakes were fine. Tech told me that I should use the parking brake at least one a week and the rears should last longer, something about they stick or get out of alignment and using the Parking break engages and disengages them getting them unstuck, told me he garunteed me they would last longer if i did, he hinted that he didn't put the same pads on that the factory did... and they would last longer... whether or not any of this is true is anyones guess though.

How does he want you to use your Parking brake? Like when the car is parked to just apply it or apply it to stop on the road? PM and tell me please.

I just replaced my rear pads today, made all the way to 30,000 miles. The first pic which is the driver rear were very low and the wear indicator was sounding the whole time I was driving. The second pic is the passenger side which were better but not by much. I checked my fronts and they were almost like brand new. The really low one has been cleaned up because I took it in to the store to make sure the new pads matched up.

Alright, so to get this out there, it is my opinion that the warpage of the front rotors is caused by the front brake pad material being really hard. It looks that rear pads are much softer.

Lastly, the noise (squealing) comes from front, rear or both?

Also, I'm bringing my car to the dealer on Wednesday to get my fronts cut because they are warped. I will try to haggle with them and get brand new rotors. I then would like to get new aftermarket ceramic brake pads ( for around 50 bucks) and replace the OEM ones. You guys think its worth my while to do this or do you think the the OEM rotors are also shitty?

How does he want you to use your Parking brake? Like when the car is parked to just apply it or apply it to stop on the road? PM and tell me please.

The tech told me to engage and disengage the parking break about once a week (while parked of course) and it should prolong the life of the rear brakes, several other techs chimes in agreeing with him... whether it's true or not i don't know.

The tech told me to engage and disengage the parking break about once a week (while parked of course) and it should prolong the life of the rear brakes, several other techs chimes in agreeing with him... whether it's true or not i don't know.

well i have heard on the manuals its the same thing with the rear brakes. and we put the ebrake on all the time.....

On the e-brake, I think what they are trying to tell you is to crank the ebrake up as much as you can versus the pull up 1/2 to 3/4 inch routine.

i thought i was the only one with the problem. i thought the guy at the shop was lyin when he told me my rear rotors were the reason why it sounded like i was runnin over a cat everytime i went in reverse.

I probably will go back to a Toyota or lexus after my Accord.
My 2003 Corolla's rear pads lasted exactly 110,500 miles !!!!
Just getting tired of all of the issues with Honda.

I probably will go back to a Toyota or lexus after my Accord.
My 2003 Corolla's rear pads lasted exactly 110,500 miles !!!!
Just getting tired of all of the issues with Honda.

+1 Henry, between the pads, the squealing, the huge headrests which you can't see out the driver's rear window and the diming of the lights I don't think I can buy at least a new Honda product. The TSX is no better, I have heard of squeaking issues and the infamous engine knocking noise.

I probably will go back to a Toyota or lexus after my Accord.
My 2003 Corolla's rear pads lasted exactly 110,500 miles !!!!
Just getting tired of all of the issues with Honda.

Does your Corolla have rear drums? If so then my 01 Accord with rear drums had 165k before I sold it with original read pads. My 97 Accord rear drum pads has enough left to get last me close to 150k. They added way more rear brake bias to the newer Accords so the rear pads should wear as much as the front pads in older Accords. My 01 front pads use to last 35-40k miles so if the 08+ Accord pads last somewhere around 30k then I'm happy. Remember you can't compare Lexus to an Accord because of the price difference. Also the 07+ Camry seems to be having transimission problems.

+1 Henry, between the pads, the squealing, the huge headrests which you can't see out the driver's rear window and the diming of the lights I don't think I can buy at least a new Honda product. The TSX is no better, I have heard of squeaking issues and the infamous engine knocking noise.

The headrest is kind of uncomfortable for me but I got use to it. My lights haven't dimmed on me so far so I can't comment on that but I have seen them dim slightly from online videos. Can you comment more on the "infamous engine knocking"?

What is Honda thinking? I bought this car b/c I THOUGHT it was reliable. What a joke. This will be my last Honda for sure. I have had american cars that their brakes lasted over 100k miles. This really bites. So I guess after every 5th oil change I need to do a break job on the rear too...WFT?

What is Honda thinking? I bought this car b/c I THOUGHT it was reliable. What a joke. This will be my last Honda for sure. I have had american cars that their brakes lasted over 100k miles. This really bites. So I guess after every 5th oil change I need to do a break job on the rear too...WFT?

Again, was it disc or drum brakes? Also how often did you have to change the front pads? How reliable was the American car overall?

Rear pads may wear out at 20k but front pads seem to be able to last to 60k. Not too bad for disc brakes if you ask me. some people also have got 30k on their rear pads. I haven't heard many over 30k but people are more likely to make a post if they got something to complain about. I do admit that 15-20k is rapid wear but I can't make a conclusion until I see how long my own pads will last me since that is what matters the most to me. I don't know if the rapid wear is due to excessive braking, pads grinding all the time, or if there really is a major problem with the pad design/braking system.

Again, was it disc or drum brakes? Also how often did you have to change the front pads? How reliable was the American car overall?

Rear pads may wear out at 20k but front pads seem to be able to last to 60k. Not too bad for disc brakes if you ask me. some people also have got 30k on their rear pads. I haven't heard many over 30k but people are more likely to make a post if they got something to complain about. I do admit that 15-20k is rapid wear but I can't make a conclusion until I see how long my own pads will last me since that is what matters the most to me. I don't know if the rapid wear is due to excessive braking, pads grinding all the time, or if there really is a major problem with the pad design/braking system.

My aftermarket front pads lasted 40K miles

My american cars had disc brakes all the way around and lasted way longer than this.

Chevy S10 ZR2 with large off road tires I still got 115k on original brakes.

Chevy Lumina original brakes lasted to 85K

Ford 500 60k miles

I am sorry for sounding rude but this is just not acceptable to me. I will voice my opinion to American Honda on this one. NEVER have I owned a car that the rear wears out before the front. And neither should need replaced at aprox 20k!

My american cars had disc brakes all the way around and lasted way longer than this.

Chevy S10 ZR2 with large off road tires I still got 115k on original brakes.

Chevy Lumina original brakes lasted to 85K

Ford 500 60k miles

I am sorry for sounding rude but this is just not acceptable to me. I will voice my opinion to American Honda on this one. NEVER have I owned a car that the rear wears out before the front. And neither should need replaced at aprox 20k!

Honda added way more rear brake bias. Have you noticed the car staying leveled under hard braking? That's because most of the braking is done with the rear. So think of the rear pads as the front pads on most cars. So front pads lasting 20k isn't that bad. Yes, it should be lasting 30-40k but at least there doesn't seem to be any transmission problems like the 6th gen Accords. I'll take premature brake wear from the 8th gen over the tranny issues of the 6th gen Accords any day.

Mt American Honda Accord 2007 has 70,000 with the original brakes and tires...So some do last longer then others.....all in the type of driving you do and how you drive....When it comes time to replace I will go with OEM....

Brakes running low don't leave people stranded. If your car is broken down on the side of the road no wonder pads last for fukin ever.

Honda reliability cannot be questioned because of some creeks here and there and fast wearing brake pads...they come out with a new model for ALL models every 4 years and most of the time the design and styling is something new and aggressive looking. Don't pigeonhole the virtues of any honda.

Plus, how about the fast tire wearing issue on the G's and nissan's? and I'm sure if you looked up lexus you'd find a slew of things that other people are complaining about on their cars.

If you're gonna bash honda on a honda forum, then by all means...trade that bitch in.

I second your post....

All the bitching and moaning should just stop with the brakes, go replace the brakes with ceramics and then come back and give a prognosis. Yes honda cheaped out on brakes as my previous nissan was and many other cars out now, but its nothing to be crying on the forum about like many of you are doing. If you dont like the car go trade that damn thing in if bothers you that much. Be happy your tranny isnt failing and engine issues. I swear so many of you bitch on this forum about the smallest issues and you do nothing about it to fix them yourself, you take it a dealer which messes your car up even worse and you complain more. If it bothers you that much go get the job done yourself, youd be glad you did.

I dont think they cheaped out on brakes.... 70,000 and still original... No complaints here...

I dont think they cheaped out on brakes.... 70,000 and still original... No complaints here...

70,000 miles on an 8th gen?

No it is a 2007... But did they totally redo the brakes for 08? Are the pads and material different?

I wouldnt call it bashing, dont get me wrong I love the car but when it is clearly a design mistake Honda should foot the bill and make it right. I talked to American Honda numerious times now and they finaly admited there was a issue and that as of now there is no recall. I urge everyone else to call in and voice a complaint. The more people that do complain will urge them to fix the situation. I think people learn to live with things like this when they shouldnt have too. I dont know about everyone else but I work damn hard for my money and replacing brakes every 20K is not what I had in mind when I bought the all mighty H, I did replace them myself and avoided the $300 dealer charge.