Canadiankid
04-30-2009, 05:57 AM
I was reading the forums and came accross this:
Hell, with 0.9% for 72 months, you could get a fully loaded S 6MT for only $50 more a month than a fully loaded accord (granted if you financed, and you are still paying more money in the end).
I am a proud owner of both:
S2000: 13,000KMs, Enkei rims (16lbs), Koni Yellows full stiff, with Ground Control springs 550Fr/475Rr. Full J's FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) front, rear bumpers, sideskirts, and front flenders, with a J's rear Over Fender. Koyo Rad, and Mugen Oil Pan.
8th Gen Accord 5500kms, Stock but every available option from the dealer 6MT, 6 Cylinders, Navi, Leather, etc.
STREET COMPARISON:
Acceleration: Accord hands down. S2000 has zero power until 6000 rpms which isn't useful on the street. Although the S can redline to 9000rpms to get that high you're already speeding 90% of the time. (2nd gear at 9000rpms = highway speeds)
Cornering: The S2000 undoubtably handles corners much better, especially with the aftermarket suspension, 50/50 weight distribution, and its a few thousand lbs lighter. I have to say though, if you need to accelerate through a corner - the accord accelerates better with its tendancy to understeer its a much safer bet. The S2000 (2000) has very dramatic oversteer and any acceleration through a corner will quickly lead to sending your rear out in a spin - sometimes its fun. Sometimes its scarey.
Rain Driving: S2000 - forget it. I don't take mine out in the rain. I do track the car in the rain only because I have to (already paid the $$) but its a very dangerous car in the rain. Its just sooo light, and nimble it gets lose very easy. Anything over 5500 rpms and Vtec sends your rear sliding. Accord wins hands down - again although the V6 loses traction in the rain as well no problem, its a safer car to deal with.
Highway driving - V6 pulls so nice on the highway. The S2000 actually pulls pretty well as well because its easy to keep the rpms high on the highway. Since the S2000 is lower I must admit I am kinda scared its going to hit a piece of tire or something but overall - tied.
Sunroof/Topless: S2000 is a convertible which is great on the roads, or when you're NOT sitting in traffic. Sunroof is really nice on the highway where often it is too windy for a convertible (not always though). S2000 wins on the streets, Accord wins on the highway.
Motor: The S2000 F20 motor is the 9000 rpm motor. Quite quiet at cruising speeds but anything over 6000 rpms (vtec) and it starts getting loud fast. The Accord V6 motor is much more quiet, and has more of an electronically controlled sound to it in my opinion. The torque on the accord also blows the S2000 away at anything less than probably 7500 rpms.
1/4 mile: Not sure who would win, Iv'e been thinking about this a lot lately. If the Accord did take the lead at the start due to the torque - the S2000 would quickly catch up where the accord V6 will run out of air - high rpms. S2000 wins at the end.
Fuel Economy: Tied - the S2000 has a smaller tank, and is only 4 cylinder but it takes premium fuel, and more rpms to do the same job the accord can do. The accord is 6 cylinder, uses more gas and has a bigger tank, but the gas is cheaper. Due to the larger tank in the accord although it is more expensive to fill up it is about the same in fuel economy - also due to the larger tank the accord can go longer between fillups.
Road Noise - Since the s2000 is a convertible it loses here bad. Its very noisy even with the top up. I find it more clicky/clanky as well too.
Convenience - The accord wins. The trunk on the s2000 is about the size of the passenger footwell in the accord. The s2000 has a very small glovebox, no cup holders, and no storage space throughout. The accord is loaded with convenience.
Comfort - Although having the top down while cruising is very exotic & relaxing it is not a comfortable car (I am 6'1 and although I fit in it no problems, and I Can still put the seat back more than needed) The S2000 is tight fitted, very low to the ground makes it harder to get in and out. You kinda have to fall into it. Have you sat in the accord? the thing is a limo!! It's so comfortable, the dash is laid out very nicely. I have Phonelink, all leather interior, heated seats, Navi, voice recognition, steering controls, etc. Nuff Said.
GF Approval - GF says "the accord is much more comfortable, more daily driverish. The S2000, is more fun especially topless." Top or Top down? she says "top down". When I ask her which car she wants to take for a 30 minute drive "lets take the S2000" When I ask her which car she wants to take to new york (8 hour drive) she has to think about it........
Parents Approval - They don't support the S2000 as I introduced them to the car as a track car and its not practical. They love the Accord though.
At the Track - S2000 every way wins hands down. The car was built for track performance. Its basically trackable stock. This is why I purchased it, and I only drive it when its sunny out, and when it doesn't have track brake pads on (noisy) - which is only when I feel like changing them.
Transmission - The s2000 has the 9000 rpm redline, so I can either get the power I need and ride out the rpms with no need to shift at the expense of a wailing engine, or I can shift early at about the same "earliest" shiftpoints as the accord. Both the accord and the S can be in 6th gear at as little as 50-60kms. The s2000 wins due to the longer gears.
Insurance - I pay the same insurance on both cars. I do get a discount on having more than 1 car insured, but without the discount I assume it would be the same.
Oversteer/Understeer - The S2000 wins hands down if you like the more dangerous oversteer, at the expense of the safer understeer. Having said that the S2000 has the smallest turning radius of any car I've driven, and the Accord has the largest turning radius out of any car I've driven. You need 2.5+ lanes to Uturn an accord, but the S2000 can do it in less than 2 lanes and still have room to spin the rear.
Fun Factor: S2000 wins hands down. It is capable of so much more.
Overview: The s2000 is a drivers car, definately not a daily driver (atleast in the north) The S2000 is the only car that scares me. It sticks to corners like glue, handles like the best of them. At the track, its very competitive. However, its scarey. There is very little warning of when the rear is going to get lose, and when it does you have to correct fast - just make sure you don't oversteer while correcting or you'll hit the wall. If you're going to drive the car on the street I recommend driving it 80% of the level you could push the accord to safely. You thought your gf/wife was tough? One mistake, and she won't forgive you - its over.
The accord on the other hand you get a sense of safety, if you spin, you're not going anywhere and the understeer allows corners to be had at 100% of the capabilities of the car where drivers errors are corrected and forgiven by the front wheel drive understeering capabilities of the car. The Accord is much safer, and the driver can build 100% more confidence on the road while "joy riding" with friends.
Why do I drive 2 cars? I drive the accord to and from work, in the snow and rain. I drive it when the S2000 is still in track trim, and not necessarily road worthy.
The S2000 is my track car. It is very low to the ground, very stiff, and often has full track pads on it. It's also my joy rider, that I take out when I want a change from the Accord. Maybe slide the rear a lil on nice sunny days, etc. Short Trips.
Which car wins IMO?
As my gf put it. The Accord is a better everyday car, more practical. The S2000 is more of an enthusiasts car. Not very practical but more fun to drive. Not forgiving, harsh at times, but its a true sports car. I wouldn't recommend an S2000 unless you have 2 cars and both insured at the same time.
My Car History: (I'm 30 years old)
An early 90s 5.0L Mustang, Buick Lesabre, Nissan Maxima, Toyota Yaris, '76 Pontiac Lemans, '96 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX,
Hell, with 0.9% for 72 months, you could get a fully loaded S 6MT for only $50 more a month than a fully loaded accord (granted if you financed, and you are still paying more money in the end).
I am a proud owner of both:
S2000: 13,000KMs, Enkei rims (16lbs), Koni Yellows full stiff, with Ground Control springs 550Fr/475Rr. Full J's FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) front, rear bumpers, sideskirts, and front flenders, with a J's rear Over Fender. Koyo Rad, and Mugen Oil Pan.
8th Gen Accord 5500kms, Stock but every available option from the dealer 6MT, 6 Cylinders, Navi, Leather, etc.
STREET COMPARISON:
Acceleration: Accord hands down. S2000 has zero power until 6000 rpms which isn't useful on the street. Although the S can redline to 9000rpms to get that high you're already speeding 90% of the time. (2nd gear at 9000rpms = highway speeds)
Cornering: The S2000 undoubtably handles corners much better, especially with the aftermarket suspension, 50/50 weight distribution, and its a few thousand lbs lighter. I have to say though, if you need to accelerate through a corner - the accord accelerates better with its tendancy to understeer its a much safer bet. The S2000 (2000) has very dramatic oversteer and any acceleration through a corner will quickly lead to sending your rear out in a spin - sometimes its fun. Sometimes its scarey.
Rain Driving: S2000 - forget it. I don't take mine out in the rain. I do track the car in the rain only because I have to (already paid the $$) but its a very dangerous car in the rain. Its just sooo light, and nimble it gets lose very easy. Anything over 5500 rpms and Vtec sends your rear sliding. Accord wins hands down - again although the V6 loses traction in the rain as well no problem, its a safer car to deal with.
Highway driving - V6 pulls so nice on the highway. The S2000 actually pulls pretty well as well because its easy to keep the rpms high on the highway. Since the S2000 is lower I must admit I am kinda scared its going to hit a piece of tire or something but overall - tied.
Sunroof/Topless: S2000 is a convertible which is great on the roads, or when you're NOT sitting in traffic. Sunroof is really nice on the highway where often it is too windy for a convertible (not always though). S2000 wins on the streets, Accord wins on the highway.
Motor: The S2000 F20 motor is the 9000 rpm motor. Quite quiet at cruising speeds but anything over 6000 rpms (vtec) and it starts getting loud fast. The Accord V6 motor is much more quiet, and has more of an electronically controlled sound to it in my opinion. The torque on the accord also blows the S2000 away at anything less than probably 7500 rpms.
1/4 mile: Not sure who would win, Iv'e been thinking about this a lot lately. If the Accord did take the lead at the start due to the torque - the S2000 would quickly catch up where the accord V6 will run out of air - high rpms. S2000 wins at the end.
Fuel Economy: Tied - the S2000 has a smaller tank, and is only 4 cylinder but it takes premium fuel, and more rpms to do the same job the accord can do. The accord is 6 cylinder, uses more gas and has a bigger tank, but the gas is cheaper. Due to the larger tank in the accord although it is more expensive to fill up it is about the same in fuel economy - also due to the larger tank the accord can go longer between fillups.
Road Noise - Since the s2000 is a convertible it loses here bad. Its very noisy even with the top up. I find it more clicky/clanky as well too.
Convenience - The accord wins. The trunk on the s2000 is about the size of the passenger footwell in the accord. The s2000 has a very small glovebox, no cup holders, and no storage space throughout. The accord is loaded with convenience.
Comfort - Although having the top down while cruising is very exotic & relaxing it is not a comfortable car (I am 6'1 and although I fit in it no problems, and I Can still put the seat back more than needed) The S2000 is tight fitted, very low to the ground makes it harder to get in and out. You kinda have to fall into it. Have you sat in the accord? the thing is a limo!! It's so comfortable, the dash is laid out very nicely. I have Phonelink, all leather interior, heated seats, Navi, voice recognition, steering controls, etc. Nuff Said.
GF Approval - GF says "the accord is much more comfortable, more daily driverish. The S2000, is more fun especially topless." Top or Top down? she says "top down". When I ask her which car she wants to take for a 30 minute drive "lets take the S2000" When I ask her which car she wants to take to new york (8 hour drive) she has to think about it........
Parents Approval - They don't support the S2000 as I introduced them to the car as a track car and its not practical. They love the Accord though.
At the Track - S2000 every way wins hands down. The car was built for track performance. Its basically trackable stock. This is why I purchased it, and I only drive it when its sunny out, and when it doesn't have track brake pads on (noisy) - which is only when I feel like changing them.
Transmission - The s2000 has the 9000 rpm redline, so I can either get the power I need and ride out the rpms with no need to shift at the expense of a wailing engine, or I can shift early at about the same "earliest" shiftpoints as the accord. Both the accord and the S can be in 6th gear at as little as 50-60kms. The s2000 wins due to the longer gears.
Insurance - I pay the same insurance on both cars. I do get a discount on having more than 1 car insured, but without the discount I assume it would be the same.
Oversteer/Understeer - The S2000 wins hands down if you like the more dangerous oversteer, at the expense of the safer understeer. Having said that the S2000 has the smallest turning radius of any car I've driven, and the Accord has the largest turning radius out of any car I've driven. You need 2.5+ lanes to Uturn an accord, but the S2000 can do it in less than 2 lanes and still have room to spin the rear.
Fun Factor: S2000 wins hands down. It is capable of so much more.
Overview: The s2000 is a drivers car, definately not a daily driver (atleast in the north) The S2000 is the only car that scares me. It sticks to corners like glue, handles like the best of them. At the track, its very competitive. However, its scarey. There is very little warning of when the rear is going to get lose, and when it does you have to correct fast - just make sure you don't oversteer while correcting or you'll hit the wall. If you're going to drive the car on the street I recommend driving it 80% of the level you could push the accord to safely. You thought your gf/wife was tough? One mistake, and she won't forgive you - its over.
The accord on the other hand you get a sense of safety, if you spin, you're not going anywhere and the understeer allows corners to be had at 100% of the capabilities of the car where drivers errors are corrected and forgiven by the front wheel drive understeering capabilities of the car. The Accord is much safer, and the driver can build 100% more confidence on the road while "joy riding" with friends.
Why do I drive 2 cars? I drive the accord to and from work, in the snow and rain. I drive it when the S2000 is still in track trim, and not necessarily road worthy.
The S2000 is my track car. It is very low to the ground, very stiff, and often has full track pads on it. It's also my joy rider, that I take out when I want a change from the Accord. Maybe slide the rear a lil on nice sunny days, etc. Short Trips.
Which car wins IMO?
As my gf put it. The Accord is a better everyday car, more practical. The S2000 is more of an enthusiasts car. Not very practical but more fun to drive. Not forgiving, harsh at times, but its a true sports car. I wouldn't recommend an S2000 unless you have 2 cars and both insured at the same time.
My Car History: (I'm 30 years old)
An early 90s 5.0L Mustang, Buick Lesabre, Nissan Maxima, Toyota Yaris, '76 Pontiac Lemans, '96 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX,