way to reduce wait time between layers of wax [Archive]

Northernstar

05-16-2009, 03:07 AM

I came upon this method while surfing online internet. Usually you have to wait for the wax to cure before applying another layer. But using this method you can apply the second layer right away and the result is smoother and shinnier surface :banana:. So here it goes~~

First get a bucket of icy water. Soak the sponge applicator in icy water then wring it out. Before starting to apply the wax on to the car, first spray a thin layer of ice water on the area. Then apply a thin layer of wax. When it is time to take off the wax, first soak the microfiber cloth in the ice water and wring it out. Now you can wipe off the wax very easily:). MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE MICROFIBER CLOTH AT A VERY LOW TEMPERATURE. After that use a dry microfiber cloth to dry the area. Now you can feel that the area is very smooth and the beading is extremely incredible :D. You can apply up to two layers of wax by following the above steps with each layer. They have tried applying the third layer but the result is a foggy surface:thumbsdow.

I haven't tried this method myself but all the people who have tried it said that the results are awesome. Hope you guys will get the same result and if there is any questions, just reply or pm me, I will answer the best I can:thumbsup:.

PS : this method applies to any Carnauba wax but only with same kind of wax. If you want to apply different wax, you will have to wait for 12hrs before you can put on the second layer.

cheers~

Drowzee

05-16-2009, 09:02 AM

It's been around for a while. It's called "spit shining." This idea originated from polishing leather shoes. This passage is from TOGWT from DB:

Spit shining is used for ‘layering’ Carnauba wax to produce a ‘depth of shine’ providing you take the necessary precautions to prevent the solvents both re-liquefying and removing the previous wax layers. Usually a spit shined surface is slicker, smoother, and has different beading characteristics; with even smaller tighter water beads. The durability is about the same (or slightly better) and although spit shining is very time consuming, the improved depth of shine and glossy appearance is worth it

Usually, a wax with a high solvent content will remove the previous layer, so use a Carnauba that is not formulated with a high solvent content (Pinnacle Souverän) Using a damp applicator and cold (almost ice) distilled water in a fine mist spray bottle neutralizes any solvents in the newly applied layer; the water should be cold, using ice cold water after applying a wax will harden the wax quicker making the shine deeper and help the new wax adhere to the finish, working until the water/ wax solution disappears.

The reason for using a damp applicator is to neutralize the solvents as much as possible, and to avoid the thin coats of wax sticking to the applicator, this enables the wax to build thin, fine coats. Spray fine mists of cold (almost ice) distilled water to a single panel and then apply a light Carnauba wax to the paint surface.

Always apply extremely thin layers using a very light pressure when spit shining, Wipe it onto a small work area and continue wiping until most of the wax disappears. Mist lightly as needed, keeping a few water droplets on the surface. Move to the next work area and repeat. After you do the final area you’ll have a surface with many spots of hazed wax. Lightly mist an area with the very cold distilled water - 1/2 hood or door - and lightly buff with a MF towel. Turn the towel frequently, when the towel becomes too damp switch to a new towel.

When you spray very cold water on a Carnauba wax layer that has been allowed to outgas (i.e. the solvents that make up its carrier system have evaporated) it reduces the wax surface temperature to the point that the next applied waxes carrier solvents do not dilute the previously applied wax and it forms a semi-hard coat.

Allow each subsequent Carnauba waxes solvents to outgas before applying more layers. Spit shining allows definitive layers, as opposed to a thick coat of wax that would result if the solvents dissolve the wax layer that they are applied to.

After 24 hours you can repeat the procedure, using cold (almost ice) distilled water and Pinnacle Crystal Mist (a low solvent quick detail (QD) each coat applied will increase the surface depth of shine with five or six coats being optimal

Original source: http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/f8/layering-wax-spit-shining-8048.html


Drive Accord Honda Forums > The Honda Accord Lab > Maintenance & Detailing > way to reduce wait time between layers of wax PDA way to reduce wait time between layers of wax Northernstar 05-16-2009, 03:07 AM I came upon this method while surfing online internet. Usually you have to wait for the wax to cure before applying another layer. But using this method you can apply the second layer right away and the result is smoother and shinnier surface :banana:. So here it goes~~ First get a bucket of icy water. Soak the sponge applicator in icy water then wring it out. Before starting to apply the wax on to the car, first spray a thin layer of ice water on the area. Then apply a thin layer of wax. When it is time to take off the wax, first soak the microfiber cloth in the ice water and wring it out. Now you can wipe off the wax very easily:). MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE MICROFIBER CLOTH AT A VERY LOW TEMPERATURE. After that use a dry microfiber cloth to dry the area. Now you can feel that the area is very smooth and the beading is extremely incredible :D. You can apply up to two layers of wax by following the above steps with each layer. They have tried applying the third layer but the result is a foggy surface:thumbsdow. I haven't tried this method myself but all the people who have tried it said that the results are awesome. Hope you guys will get the same result and if there is any questions, just reply or pm me, I will answer the best I can:thumbsup:. PS : this method applies to any Carnauba wax but only with same kind of wax. If you want to apply different wax, you will have to wait for 12hrs before you can put on the second layer. cheers~ Drowzee 05-16-2009, 09:02 AM It's been around for a while. It's called "spit shining." This idea originated from polishing leather shoes. This passage is from TOGWT from DB: Spit shining is used for ‘layering’ Carnauba wax to produce a ‘depth of shine’ providing you take the necessary precautions to prevent the solvents both re-liquefying and removing the previous wax layers. Usually a spit shined surface is slicker, smoother, and has different beading characteristics; with even smaller tighter water beads. The durability is about the same (or slightly better) and although spit shining is very time consuming, the improved depth of shine and glossy appearance is worth it Usually, a wax with a high solvent content will remove the previous layer, so use a Carnauba that is not formulated with a high solvent content (Pinnacle Souverän) Using a damp applicator and cold (almost ice) distilled water in a fine mist spray bottle neutralizes any solvents in the newly applied layer; the water should be cold, using ice cold water after applying a wax will harden the wax quicker making the shine deeper and help the new wax adhere to the finish, working until the water/ wax solution disappears. The reason for using a damp applicator is to neutralize the solvents as much as possible, and to avoid the thin coats of wax sticking to the applicator, this enables the wax to build thin, fine coats. Spray fine mists of cold (almost ice) distilled water to a single panel and then apply a light Carnauba wax to the paint surface. Always apply extremely thin layers using a very light pressure when spit shining, Wipe it onto a small work area and continue wiping until most of the wax disappears. Mist lightly as needed, keeping a few water droplets on the surface. Move to the next work area and repeat. After you do the final area you’ll have a surface with many spots of hazed wax. Lightly mist an area with the very cold distilled water - 1/2 hood or door - and lightly buff with a MF towel. Turn the towel frequently, when the towel becomes too damp switch to a new towel. When you spray very cold water on a Carnauba wax layer that has been allowed to outgas (i.e. the solvents that make up its carrier system have evaporated) it reduces the wax surface temperature to the point that the next applied waxes carrier solvents do not dilute the previously applied wax and it forms a semi-hard coat. Allow each subsequent Carnauba waxes solvents to outgas before applying more layers. Spit shining allows definitive layers, as opposed to a thick coat of wax that would result if the solvents dissolve the wax layer that they are applied to. After 24 hours you can repeat the procedure, using cold (almost ice) distilled water and Pinnacle Crystal Mist (a low solvent quick detail (QD) each coat applied will increase the surface depth of shine with five or six coats being optimal Original source: http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/f8/layering-wax-spit-shining-8048.html