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Wheelie 07-31-2005, 09:13 PM 05 Accord 4 Door, Crutchfield is telling me only the $279 Infinity 5 1/2 inch speaker will fit my car, they say the other Infinity's hit the door grill, I dont want to pay that, and I dont have an amp to push it either, just the oem radio, what front door speakers have you guys upgraded to without an amp, and they just bolt in without hitting the door panel grill's? Thanks, wee
BenjiBoy650 07-31-2005, 09:17 PM I don't understand what you're talking about. When I search I come up with a bunch of different speakers, and there are no 5 1/2" speakers on the market anyway.
treetribe 07-31-2005, 09:39 PM Yea, only 5 1/4" are available and I think this is the size you need for the door speakers.
mrjtree 08-01-2005, 04:14 AM 05 Accord 4 Door, Crutchfield is telling me only the $279 Infinity 5 1/2 inch speaker will fit my car, they say the other Infinity's hit the door grill, I dont want to pay that, and I dont have an amp to push it either, just the oem radio, what front door speakers have you guys upgraded to without an amp, and they just bolt in without hitting the door panel grill's? Thanks, wee
For the front speakers, I ended up with Rockford Fosgate 5-1/4" 2 way speakers (http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/prod...nch%20Coaxials). Never bought this brand before, but they sound great and cost under $60. Thanks to Princess (again) for posting a diagram and removal instructions (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/s...480&postcount=1) and Jeff92k7 (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/s...10&postcount=15) the front speakers were done in about 2 hours. There was some drilling necessary. I strongly recommend getting a speaker mounting kit specific for the Accord. I picked one up from Crutchfield for $12.99 (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-qjl0DY...3200&I=142SAH6). You must drill three 1/8" holes in order to use the bracket, but you'd have to do this anyway since the factory speakers mount using clips not found on aftermarket ones. The brackets raise the speaker away form the door, which is necessary to provide for the speaker's base (magnet area) to clear the window as the window glass is lowered. Without this "raising," the window glass will collide with the speaker's base and bad things will happen. I tried using 6-1/2" speakers, but the metal speaker brackets did not fit within the door's speaker cut out in the sheet metal. I did not feel like cutting the sheet metal for the sake of slightly bigger front speakers. Perhaps other brands of 6-1/2" speakers would fit? I was happy with the sound of the 5-1/4", so I stuck with them.
Wheelie 08-01-2005, 02:54 PM I went with the Infinity Kappa 6", had to cut a little to get them in the door, but they fit flush which makes better sound than having an adapter to make it stick out from the base. The sound is different, the oem is a compoment so the Infinity makes more mid and high sound, they mix good with the rear speakers, im satisfied, btw, Crutchfied said these would not work in my car, they said the would hit the door panel LOL, I got them for $111 at DFW Stereo in Grapevine, another buddy deal. Thanks for the input guys. wee
Wheelie 08-01-2005, 02:55 PM oh yeah, took maybe an hour to install them myself, really simple job. wee
BenjiBoy650 08-01-2005, 03:25 PM I don't know of any speakers size 6". Also they would probably hit the door if you install them by the recommended way instead of cutting.
Wheelie 08-01-2005, 03:52 PM 6 1/2, they dont fit in the stock hole, it has to be cut some. wee
http://www.five-stars.com/ebay/proinc/62_7i.jpg
ssjones 08-06-2005, 02:29 PM Wheelie:
I just installed a set of 6.5" Kenwood KFC-1669S speakers in my front doors (6x9 Kenwood IE's in the rear) from Crutchfield. Call the sales rep, using the online search it only gives you a few options. Crutchfield supplied the mounting bracket for the 6.5" speakers and they went easy, 10 minutes per side. You drill three holes to mount the bracket and screw the speakes to the bracket. No problem with my door frame and they sound great.
ssjones 08-06-2005, 02:44 PM I put some install pictures up on line:
http://community.webshots.com/album/415035939kNSJMt
treetribe 08-06-2005, 04:33 PM This is a slightly off topic but, I installed some Audiobahn 6x9's in the rear of my 2005 Accord Sedan. I still don't feel there is enough sound, especially bass. Would you recommend getting an amp to power the rear speakers or just changing the front speakers, or both ;) ?? Of course, I'd have to wait longer to save up for both :( ..
Wheelie 08-06-2005, 06:08 PM you can only get so much sound(bass) out of a non amplifed stereo system, how much do you want? Thats where the $$$ comes into play. Changing the front speakers isnt going to help the bass department, if the oem stereo has rca jacks, its easy to amp the rear speakers, and yes, you will have more bass and total sound. The best way to get bass is to install 2 8" subs where your 6x9's are, and amp them. weee
ssjones 08-06-2005, 08:32 PM Treetribe:
I must be an old fart. I have my Bass set at "2", anything more is too much for my Led Zep CD's and XM Radio. The 6x9 replacements are a big improvement. But I think swapping the fronts up to those 6.5" speakers is even more of an audio improvement. I did add the baffles which added more bass to the rears.
Wheelie 08-07-2005, 10:59 AM The fronts are component speakers, so replacing them with a 2 or 3 way will give a better sound in my opinion, and the tweeters are still hooked up so you will get a better midrange and hi from the front, and bass from the oem rear. weeee
treetribe 08-07-2005, 11:36 AM Ok, here is the situation in detail:
I installed to Audiobahn AS69Q 6x9"s in the rear about a month ago. They rated at 150W RMS each. I'm running the stock head unit (single CD, non-NAV) which puts out a BANGING :thumbsdow 30W x 4.
I listen to alot of trance/dance music and bass is probably the most powerful aspect of this type of music. Anyhow, with the bass set on +2 ,treble +1, and fader to R4, I have to pump up the volume almost all the way up to about 36 or 38 / 40 to get the sound I'm looking for (;) No, I'm not deaf, and not planning on getting there too soon either!)
I posted a msg on another thread recently..... Copy/Paste --->:
The stock headunit doesn't have RCA outputs which makes an amp harder to install. I have 2 Pioneer 400W RMS subs in a box all ready to go. All they need is an amp.
I was thinking of either buying an amp just to power the two rear 6x9's because they are 150W RMS speakers and should sound decent with the right amount of power. Or I could put the subs in and power them through an amp.
I'm kind of leaning towards the first option, cause putting in subs just adds weight and occupies trunk space.
So, here is the question: In order to power the rear 6X9's with an amp, how exactly would I need to setup the wiring, considering there's no RCA outs from the headunit.... I've heard something about a high-low convertor. What exactly is that? Any suggestions on how I should go about this? Are there any amps that would not require this type of convertor??
Hope you guys can help... This amp and no RCA output thing is driving me nuts!
Wheelie 08-07-2005, 12:01 PM I guess its not any harder, just more stuff to buy, weeee
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2004/469/l469BLAU10R-f_dg.jpeg
Wheelie 08-07-2005, 12:02 PM http://www.crutchfield.com/S-FNHq1BvGAvA/cgi-bin/prodgroup.asp?g=50900&est=&search=rca+jacks weee
Wheelie 08-07-2005, 12:05 PM see if crutchfield has one for your Honda. wee
treetribe 08-07-2005, 04:03 PM Where does that plug in? Somewhere on the back of the headunit?? Also, I don't think they have those for the stock head units on 7th gen Honda's... :(
BenjiBoy650 08-07-2005, 04:33 PM http://www.crutchfield.com/S-axh3o7NFyk4/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=721&I=101PL2
If you're planning to connect an amp that doesn't have speaker-level inputs to a car stereo that doesn't have preamp outputs, you'll need a line output converter. The PowerLink II hooks to the speaker leads of your stereo and provides RCA preamp-level outputs, so you can run a patch cord (not included) to your stereo amp.
http://ca.dsm.org/SoundAdvice/article2.html
O.K. You've taken inventory of your factory system. Apart from the power output of it, you are content. There is no reason then to get rid of it; build around it! "How do you do this?" you may ask. Well, the first thing you'll want to do is change the output from a speaker level to a low level signal so that you can use additional after market components. This can be done with a relatively inexpensive gadget called, amazingly enough, a high/low converter. It's often a small box with wires on one side that attach to the speaker wires coming out of the radio. Female RCA connectors on the other side attach signal processors and amplifiers etc.
Wheelie 08-07-2005, 06:19 PM Where does that plug in? Somewhere on the back of the headunit?? Also, I don't think they have those for the stock head units on 7th gen Honda's... :(
It should have a connection that plugs into the back of your oem stereo, where the speaker wires come out, makes it easy, so you can run rca jacks from your stereo to your trunk where the amp will be. weee
F6Hawk 08-07-2005, 09:11 PM As far as speakers go, if you aren't wanting to break the bank on fronts, how about Pioneers? http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WIkjfrVgTxi/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=51800&I=130TSG1340 for only $60.
treetribe 08-08-2005, 09:47 AM Would something like the Stinger SLOC or Scosche LOC80 be a goood quality LOC??
PS. BenjiBoy, that 2nd article on Sound Advice was great!
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