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LegendaryJRW
06-07-2009, 01:08 PM
ok ive seen how people are talking about hydrolock with CAI. how come that cant happen with a SRI?

eckseleven
06-07-2009, 01:12 PM
With an SRI the filter is in the engine bay next to the battery. With a CAI, it is in the bumper in front of the left wheel were water from puddles can possibly enter.

xJoeMama78
06-07-2009, 01:14 PM
Because with a SRI the air filter is way up high in the engine compartment. For water to get into it you would either need to not have a hood or drive into water almost up to the windshield (AKA lake) and your car would be toast anyways. With a CAI the filter mounts down low, in the case of the Accord it is right in front of the driver's side tire where it could ingest water from small puddles or splashing.

LegendaryJRW
06-07-2009, 01:17 PM
okay so since i live were when it rains it comes down hard. i would be better off with a SRI because im not really looking for that much of a hp gain

Viper98912
06-07-2009, 01:19 PM
If you're not looking for much of a hp gain, then save your money and keep the intake stock?

LegendaryJRW
06-07-2009, 01:23 PM
well i want the sound and the hp gain i would prefer but i just wouldnt want to get a CAI when i have a high chance of it to hydrolock

onewheelup
06-07-2009, 01:29 PM
Despite the popular belief that CAI are vastly superior to SR....I have yet to see a CAI that offered more than a couple HP difference in performance at optimal conditions. I've run SR and CAI on several cars over the years and could never tell the difference....

AznX TL
06-07-2009, 05:01 PM
if you dont care about the hp gains, just do the intake resonator delete. its just as loud as an aftermarket intake, except its free.

CaMole
06-07-2009, 05:07 PM
No its not... Stock intake is not even close to how my Fujita sounded like.

CYANiDE
06-07-2009, 05:12 PM
if you dont care about the hp gains, just do the intake resonator delete. its just as loud as an aftermarket intake, except its free.

How does this work? Instructions on this? Also, does it affect the stock intake in anyway?

starbai
06-07-2009, 05:32 PM
No its not... Stock intake is not even close to how my Fujita sounded like.

stock intake minus resonators doesn't sound like the fujita/CAI's?

blacklisted
06-07-2009, 05:35 PM
stock intake minus resonators doesn't sound like the fujita/CAI's?

I would think they'd sound somewhat similar, yeah?

AznX TL
06-07-2009, 05:37 PM
No its not... Stock intake is not even close to how my Fujita sounded like.

oh, my bad i meant for i4, i personally don't know if the v6 has the same effect. actually i believe the v6 doesnt even have intake resonators.

CYANiDE
06-07-2009, 06:12 PM
Anyone know how you take out that resonator?

AznX TL
06-07-2009, 06:18 PM
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31026&highlight=intake+resonator+removal

YRMed
06-07-2009, 06:21 PM
I may be wrong, but I know i've read that SRI heat soak and reduce the performance of the car.

Agree or disagree?

CaMole
06-07-2009, 06:56 PM
What im saying is that an aftermarket intake will sound much better than just taking off some resonators. It will not be as deep and aggressive sounding compared to an intake. I had my CAI for ~6 months but put my stock intake back on w/o resonators. Now i wonder how much quieter it can get. If your looking for some added power and sound an intake is the way to go.:thmsup:

BoBoTee
06-07-2009, 07:26 PM
I've had my Injen CAI for about a week now and it has been raining heavily almost everyday haven't exprience and problems yet. The CAI draws in cooler air because it sits lower to pull in cooler air and it's away from the engine so it doesn't absorb all that heat produce by the engine. In return you get more horsepower and it's good for the engine as well because of the cooler air the engine injest. I was also paranoid about the possibility of hydrolocking under heavy rain so I purchased Ingen's hydroshield for extra protection and also whenever I go over a puddle I let off the gas so the throttle plate close when I ride over. Therefore, the engine doesn't pull up any water. It's not that bad when you're concious about your driving in rainy weather.:thmsup:

starbai
06-07-2009, 07:32 PM
oh, my bad i meant for i4, i personally don't know if the v6 has the same effect. actually i believe the v6 doesnt even have intake resonators.

the 6spd v6 doesn't have a resonator the auto does.

k24z3
06-07-2009, 07:33 PM
Buying the by-pass valve helps avoid hydro lock on the CAI. Once the pressure changes from the filter emerging in water, the by-pass valve opens allowing air to enter into it, rather than the water through the filter.

I removed the resonator from my stock intake in my Integra once. It sounds way deeper, and you can hear the air sucking (swooshing) in when you rev. Didn't really do much except that. Can't complain though, it was free and probably won't see anything more magnificent from a SRI.

LegendaryJRW
06-07-2009, 07:37 PM
I've had my Injen CAI for about a week now and it has been raining heavily almost everyday haven't exprience and problems yet. The CAI draws in cooler air because it sits lower to pull in cooler air and it's away from the engine so it doesn't absorb all that heat produce by the engine. In return you get more horsepower and it's good for the engine as well because of the cooler air the engine injest. I was also paranoid about the possibility of hydrolocking under heavy rain so I purchased Ingen's hydroshield for extra protection and also whenever I go over a puddle I let off the gas so the throttle plate close when I ride over. Therefore, the engine doesn't pull up any water. It's not that bad when you're concious about your driving in rainy weather.:thmsup:


How much did you pay for your hydro sheild?

BoBoTee
06-07-2009, 07:44 PM
I purchased one for $26 from autoanything. It does repel water. I love the sound of my CAI it has a deep sound to it very noticable under load makes the car sound very strong and aggressive.

LegendaryJRW
06-07-2009, 07:53 PM
ok so now im defiantly back on with getting a CAI
but should i get injen or AEM

BoBoTee
06-07-2009, 08:05 PM
I don't know the gains on the AEM I hear it's a decent intake I choose Injen because I've had it on my Evo and it makes good power. I believe the advertised hp/tq rating is 12hp/10tq something like that. I also went with Injen because they had it in black which looks great, sleek, and matches the engine bay.

LegendaryJRW
06-07-2009, 08:07 PM
alright ill definatly try to see if i can get a deal on a injen. thanks for your help

onewheelup
06-08-2009, 12:01 AM
The CAI draws in cooler air because it sits lower to pull in cooler air and it's away from the engine so it doesn't absorb all that heat produce by the engine. In return you get more horsepower and it's good for the engine as well because of the cooler air the engine injest.

True and False.....

While the CAI draws cooler/denser air from outside the engine bay, it also has to pull the air further to reach the TB. A SR intake doesn't have to pull the air very far so improved throttle response is slightly better vs. the CAI. ? Heat soak from the SR isn't as bad as one might think....while not moving the engine bay is hotter than near the bumper, but once you start moving, cooler air starts circulating: thus the marginal difference in temp doesn't translate to significant increase in power for the CAI. Plus, the CAI piping is still in the engine bay and slightly susceptible to absorbing heat from under the hood.

I've used pre-filters/hydro shields in the past and then are really only good for slight splashes and to keep your filter slightly cleaner....any significant amount of water and the filter will absorb it and potentially lead to ingestion into the motor. I personally know people who have had zero issues with their CAI after years of steady use and I know people who have hydro locked engines with seemingly insignificant puddles with the AEM bypass valve.

If you are looking for an improved intake sound, and don’t care about +/-1 or 2hp, I suggest the cheapest option and that is usually a SR. CAI are a great choice if you live in an area where deep puddles or large amounts of rain aren't an issue. If you do live an area that I just described and don’t want to risk the chance, however slight, of ingesting water into your motor, then a SR is most definitely the way to go.

There are pro's and con's to both so weight the choices accordingly and good luck and happy modding.

jLim
06-08-2009, 12:05 AM
OP, if I were you I'd go the for Injen CAI, get a black one.

k24z3
06-08-2009, 02:21 AM
Doesn't the CEL come on with the Injen intake or is that Fujita? I've always known AEM to be the authority in CAI's.

onewheelup
06-08-2009, 02:45 AM
Doesn't the CEL come on with the Injen intake or is that Fujita? I've always known AEM to be the authority in CAI's.

There have been reports of both the Injen and Fujita having CEL issues in some instances... Not sure I've heard of a AEM with CEL issues yet.

starbai
06-08-2009, 07:32 AM
thats my only concern holding me back so far. I dont want to deal with CEL issues.

SEems like all but AEM has said something about CELs however I dont think I've seen many if any AEM users on the board yet.

uhohkaitlina
06-08-2009, 07:48 AM
This is all that I have to say about everyone's concern about hydrolock.

If you can have the money to spend about $300 (intake, installation) then you can spend another $50 on the bypass to virtually eliminate the possibility of hydrolock. There you go, problem solved.

I really don't understand the big deal...

superballz00
06-08-2009, 12:54 PM
This is all that I have to say about everyone's concern about hydrolock.

If you can have the money to spend about $300 (intake, installation) then you can spend another $50 on the bypass to virtually eliminate the possibility of hydrolock. There you go, problem solved.

I really don't understand the big deal...

The other side of the argument is that some people have had a piece of foam on the bypass break off and go in their engine.

LegendaryJRW
06-08-2009, 02:16 PM
This is all that I have to say about everyone's concern about hydrolock.

If you can have the money to spend about $300 (intake, installation) then you can spend another $50 on the bypass to virtually eliminate the possibility of hydrolock. There you go, problem solved.

I really don't understand the big deal...

okay it says on your signature that you have a injen CAI. how do you like it?

CYANiDE
06-09-2009, 11:37 AM
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31026&highlight=intake+resonator+removal

Thanks. Not really in depth instructions, but better than nothing.

uhohkaitlina
06-09-2009, 01:09 PM
okay it says on your signature that you have a injen CAI. how do you like it?

Absolutely LOVE it. Getting the bypass put on tomorrow hopefully.

LegendaryJRW
06-09-2009, 04:33 PM
Absolutely LOVE it. Getting the bypass put on tomorrow hopefully.


let me know how well your bypass valve works when it rains

AznX TL
06-09-2009, 05:15 PM
let me know how well your bypass valve works when it rains

you only get hydrolocked if your car is in a pool of water, it has to be past your door before it gets sucked into your cai, and im pretty sure she has no intentions of ever driving that deep.

blacklisted
06-09-2009, 08:38 PM
He wishes he bought a bypass valve too:

http://www.jossip.com/wp/docs/2009/02/waterworld.jpg

uhohkaitlina
06-10-2009, 05:18 AM
let me know how well your bypass valve works when it rains

Hopefully I won't ever have to find out "how well it works." I will just assume it's doing its job, and if I get proven otherwise well then.... I'm SOL.


He wishes he bought a bypass valve too:

http://www.jossip.com/wp/docs/2009/02/waterworld.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAH!