Muscle has trumped mileage at New General Motors. At least this one time.
http://www.foxnews.com/images/545057/0_21_p450.jpg
In an interview with Automobile magazine, conducted shortly after the company emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said that the company is planning to ressurect the Pontiac G8 full-size sedan as a Chevrolet.

The Austalian-built, rear-wheel-drive model line was scheduled to die with the Pontiac brand name, but popular demand from car enthusiasts, glowing reviews from the automotive press, and interest from law enforcement agencies hoping to utilize the vehicle as a patrol car seems to have convinced "New GM" that it is a viable product to keep in its portfolio.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,532001,00.html

Just let it die already!!! What do they want, some kind of undead zombie cars? Maybe someone can bring back hummer and call it a toyota scion xxL

That means no more Pontiac Game Changing Performances, either...

-GT

They need to drop the ls V8, drop in the 3.5 DI motor, and add a hybrid technology to the package. I think ford has a good formula with the fusion hybrid. Just my thoughts on the matter.

It comes with a 3.6 V-6, the V-8's are optional. I'm glad it's going to stay on as a Chevy. Maybe the Aussies can teach Daddy GM how to make a car.

A chevy symbol would not look right on that car.

It comes with a 3.6 V-6, the V-8's are optional. I'm glad it's going to stay on as a Chevy. Maybe the Aussies can teach Daddy GM how to make a car.

With the US Government owning the majority, I doubt it, very much. :thumbsdow

Just let it die already!!! What do they want, some kind of undead zombie cars? Maybe someone can bring back hummer and call it a toyota scion xxL

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

That means no more Pontiac Game Changing Performances, either...

-GT

Sadface.

They need to drop the ls V8, drop in the 3.5 DI motor, and add a hybrid technology to the package. I think ford has a good formula with the fusion hybrid. Just my thoughts on the matter.

I think it's a good lookin car, but the gas mileage is terrible. The hp is :censored: ridiculous for a sedan, though. It always catches my eye when it's rollin down the street.

A chevy symbol would not look right on that car.

Right you are, my friend :scratch:

I don't like it. At all. The main thing that got me about the car was the front grill. If they change the grill to put the Chevy emblem on, it loses 50% of it's appeal, IMO.


http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/02/Pontiac_G8_Hero_Full.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7VS_BBvhHzw/SSIf-VqvoYI/AAAAAAAAASI/ExEQPFV_Ykw/s800/chevy%20caprice.jpg

Grille doesn't matter it will just end up looking like all the other Caprices out there

http://century-2000.com/Images/capricelambo.JPG

Grille doesn't matter it will just end up looking like all the other Caprices out there

http://century-2000.com/Images/capricelambo.JPG

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: This is true :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



And I'm really hoping that this isn't want they're planning on doing with it


http://www.lincah.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/2009-chevrolet-caprice-front-angle-588x441.jpg

http://www.lincah.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/2009-chevrolet-caprice-rear-angle-588x441.jpg

:puke:

Nothing about "Caprice" says performance. Couldn't they drag up a better name for this beast from the Chevy history book? "Monte Carlo SS" would have made a little more sense.

Nothing about "Caprice" says performance. Couldn't they drag up a better name for this beast from the Chevy history book? "Monte Carlo SS" would have made a little more sense.

I agree. Caprice just screams "rims, raised, hydraulics, :puke:"

While the fact that it lives on excites me, the name does not.

Grille doesn't matter it will just end up looking like all the other Caprices out there

http://century-2000.com/Images/capricelambo.JPG

lmao! There are cars like that in my neighborhood, rollin' around in a two tone caprice with (I'm guessing) 20''-24'' wheels. Not quite as big as in that pic, but close.

The G8 is actually the Lumina SS and the Caprice in the MIddle East, its also the Buick Park Avenue in China. All these models have been extremely successful overseas...I'd be interested to see the new Caprice, just might be my next car

Nothing about "Caprice" says performance. Couldn't they drag up a better name for this beast from the Chevy history book? "Monte Carlo SS" would have made a little more sense.

The G8 has four doors. The Monte Carlo doesn't. It won't work.

The original rumor I heard was the G8 was hitting the Chevy lineup and being re-badged as the Impala. I guess they decided Caprice was better.

It's one of the very few GM cars well reviewed by the boys at top gear, and that's saying something. The engineers at Holden knew what they were doing, not every car has to be a mileage superstar, as long as the company offerings as a whole make mileage sense. I'm glad they kept this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB-qxAqNnsY&feature=related

To All:

This G8-turned-Impala "Beast" appears to be based upon a converted "Holden" V-platform. (Holden is essentially Chevrolet of Australia.)

Recently, at a local body shop, I got to see and ride in a 2006 Pontiac "GTO." It is based upon the Holden "Monaro." While I despised the "GTO's" gaudy, ghoulish interior, that Six-Liter (Corvette "LS2") 400 BHP V8 with six-speed manual tranny is quite a tasty treat! :D And that sleek, sexy "Euro" body is to DIE for! :thmsup: :yes:

WISH I could have bought one of those...when I got out of high school...back in 1971! :banana: :nuts:

As a die-hard Pontiac aficionado...especially the older "GTO" and "Trans-AM"...I will dearly MISS the magnificent machines produced by a now-defunct, but legendary marque. John Z. DeLorean and "Crazy Jim" Wangers set the world on fire, back in 1964...by shoving a 389-CID V8 into the Pontiac Tempest...then unabashedly plagiarizing from Ferrari...to proudly name it the "Gran Turisimo Omologato." "GTO" = "The GREAT One!" :yes: :nuts:

Somewhat off topic, but since we're talking about Chevy performance cars...

I passed the local Subaru dealer on Sunday and noticed a 2010 Camaro parked out front. I checked their site and sure enough - someone traded in a 2010 Camaro SS with 213 miles on the odo. They are only asking $45K for this slightly used beauty.

Same here. I passed by the local VW/Subaru dealer earlier this week and there's a silver SS parked out front. Except this one only has 123 miles and they're asking $43,950. Does Subaru have something better that's making all Camaro owners trade in their cars and we just don't know about it yet? lol jk

I'm glad they are keeping the V8 Sedan. I refuse to buy an I4 anymore and after driving a G8, I am convinced it is a gem.

I'm glad GM has a brain. Keep the good stuff and ditch the junk. Nobody can touch the G8's performance vs price ratio.

I'm glad they are keeping the V8 Sedan. I refuse to buy an I4 anymore and after driving a G8, I am convinced it is a gem.

I'm glad GM has a brain. Keep the good stuff and ditch the junk. Nobody can touch the G8's performance vs price ratio.

Exactly. I wish I had the money for a G8. When did you drive one?

I'm glad GM has a brain. Keep the good stuff and ditch the junk. Nobody can touch the G8's performance vs price ratio.

Indeed! :yes:

When we were shopping for cars a few months ago, I was practically drooling while I was in the G8! :lmao:

Same here. I passed by the local VW/Subaru dealer earlier this week and there's a silver SS parked out front. Except this one only has 123 miles and they're asking $43,950. Does Subaru have something better that's making all Camaro owners trade in their cars and we just don't know about it yet? lol jk

They are buying them at $5k over MSRP from Chevy dealers and reselling them on there lots for another $3K to $5k over what they paid for them. It's happening here also. If they keep selling folks will be paying $10 to $15k over msrp like some idiots did for the Challenger. A base (1SS) SS w/6MT msrp is $31040 including Dest.

Just goes to show how damn stupid some Americans are. You do know the under pinning's are the same basic setup as the G8. Yes it's a Holden! Just a Coupe in American cloths and a bow tie. :yes:

They are buying them at $5k over MSRP from Chevy dealers and reselling them on there lots for another $3K to $5k over what they paid for them. It's happening here also. If they keep selling folks will be paying $10 to $15k over msrp like some idiots did for the Challenger. A base (1SS) SS w/6MT msrp is $31040 including Dest.

Just goes to show how damn stupid some Americans are. You do know the under pinning's are the same basic setup as the G8. Yes it's a Holden! Just a Coupe in American cloths and a bow tie. :yes:

Wow. Good for the dealers :thmsup:, bad for the stupid consumers :thumbsdow :withstupi

I agree. Caprice just screams "rims, raised, hydraulics, :puke:"

monte carlos, crown vics, and many other "big body" cars are subject to becoming "whipped out" or "dubbed" for that matter, and all scream the same thing...just MCs are louder...so the name aint changin a thing...

personally, i think they just need to let pontiac die in peace...most of the people i see driving grand prix and trans ams (and automatic G8s...*shivers*) today dont know squat about their car. I dont see many pontiac drivers with actual knowledge of their car much...just that it has a number and a letter to designate "How faster i can go than you can go"

(:banana:and lexus ES sittin on dubs, and camrys sittin on dubs, and altimas sittin on dubs, and G8s sittin on dubs, and mustangs sittin on dubs, and cameros....:banana:)

I wonder if Chev's trying to get back in the police car market? The very antiquated, poorly designed, and awfully built Crown Vic is finally going to meet its maker in the sky. This leaves Ford without a large(ish) RWD sedan.

If Chev makes a police version of the Caprice it'll be the first car in decades in the North American market that truly deserves the "police interceptor" moniker.

Markus:

I wasn't aware FoMoCo is discontinuing the RWD Ford Crown Vic/Mercury Marquis. They should continue through 2011...when they are possibly slated to be replaced by the Ford Interceptor (concept) platform.

And don't sell those cars too short. Although a big, heavy, anachronistic "Land Yacht," when fitted with "Police Interceptor" package, the Crown Vic is a very capable machine! :yes: (Now HOW would I know? Because my first cousin is a Police Officer...and I've ridden with him several times! :lmao:)

I think Chevrolet Motor Division is trying to recapture a portion of the police car market they abandoned when they discontinued the old, RWD Caprice Classic. A rebadged G8 will be a very compelling option for law enforcement agencies. Especially if/when packed with Corvette "LS2" power !:D

I wonder if Chev's trying to get back in the police car market? The very antiquated, poorly designed, and awfully built Crown Vic is finally going to meet its maker in the sky. This leaves Ford without a large(ish) RWD sedan.

If Chev makes a police version of the Caprice it'll be the first car in decades in the North American market that truly deserves the "police interceptor" moniker.

Interest from police was one of the main factors is helping GM decide to keep it from the article i read.

I also saw today about the 6MT breaking down in the new camaro.

If Chev makes a police version of the Caprice it'll be the first car in decades in the North American market that truly deserves the "police interceptor" moniker.


I don't know. It seems like alot of law enforcement agencies around here are running Chargers. They are fairly capable of keeping up with the pack.

Yeah, I just did a ride-along with an officer in a V8 Charger :naughty: I got a little drool on the floor when he let the horses run wild!

Markus:

I wasn't aware FoMoCo is discontinuing the RWD Ford Crown Vic/Mercury Marquis. They should continue through 2011...when they are possibly slated to be replaced by the Ford Interceptor (concept) platform.

And don't sell those cars too short. Although a big, heavy, anachronistic "Land Yacht," when fitted with "Police Interceptor" package, the Crown Vic is a very capable machine! :yes: (Now HOW would I know? Because my first cousin is a Police Officer...and I've ridden with him several times! :lmao:)

I think Chevrolet Motor Division is trying to recapture a portion of the police car market they abandoned when they discontinued the old, RWD Caprice Classic. A rebadged G8 will be a very compelling option for law enforcement agencies. Especially if/when packed with Corvette "LS2" power !:D

I've driven dozens of CVPIs during some work I did with the Ottawa Police Service and I don't know that I'd call them very capable at all. The brakes fade quite quickly, the handling at over 100 mph is very suspect, and their acceleration is merely adequate. When Ford redesigned the rear suspension back in the late 90s the towing capacity was dropped to either 1000 or 1500 lbs. My unibody independent-rear-suspension XJ6 is rated to tow 5,000 lbs for Pete's sake!

The CVPI is built on a flex-o-matic chassis (as are most vehicles with a full frame) that was far from state-of-the-art when it debuted in the late 1970s. That's right, it's a 30 year-old design. And for such a big car the interior passenger space is terribly insufficient. The 8th gen Accord has more rear legroom.

Where the CVPIs excel are in durability and reliability and in the abuse they can take. The trunk is massive and the width of the car allows for fairly easy installation of police paraphenalia.

AFAIK Ford has dropped the Interceptor idea and, yes, the CV is soon destined for the end-of-the-road. Rumour has it that Ford is working on a police version of the new Taurus.

It seems we have something in common - I have a first cousin who's a cop. His employer gives him a Jaguar XJR for his daily duties - he's a UK Motorway Officer.

I don't know. It seems like alot of law enforcement agencies around here are running Chargers. They are fairly capable of keeping up with the pack.

Very true. My sources tell me that a lot of police departments are looking at the Charger as a replacement for the CVPI when Ford pulls the plug. With the V8 they are a very much better car than the CVPI. Hell, even the 3.5L Charger can keep up with the V8 CVPI. It'll be interesting to see how reliable the Chargers are in the long term.

Yeah, I just did a ride-along with an officer in a V8 Charger

Is that what that call getting arrested in your area?:lmao:

j/k, I had a NV state trooper pull into traffic and pass me on I40 E. He was chasing a speeder ahead of me. Sounded BADASS as he went by WOT.

Is that what that call getting arrested in your area?:lmao:

j/k, I had a NV state trooper pull into traffic and pass me on I40 E. He was chasing a speeder ahead of me. Sounded BADASS as he went by WOT.

No, I'm a future police officer lol :banana: When I did my ride-along, he kept his lights off and did about 90 ad weaved in and out of traffic to catch up with someone who had their headlights off. The lights were pretty nice, too. It was retrofitted with all the latest technology. Sick! :yes: And WOT?

Markus and All:

Fair and excellent points, well taken! :yes:

They (LEA) can always select a Dodge "Challenger," packed with "Hemi" power. Else a rebadged G8-turned-Caprice and/or Camaro "SS-Z28" packed with Corvette "LS2" power.

But I seriously DOUBT that FoMoCo is going to hand over the police car market to GM, Chrysler, or anyone else. Perhaps a tricked-out "Police Interceptor" Lincoln Navigator...fitted with a 500 BHP, "Cammer" V-10? :dunno:

A Challenger sounds kinda cool. Reminds me of the old 5.0 Mustangs.

What about this bad boy?

http://www.customanddesigncars.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hummer-texas.jpg

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

EDIT:

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Markus:

Now that TaTa Motors, of India, has acquired Jaguar from FoMoCo...it's going to be an interesting experiment...as to where this famous, legendary British nameplate goes next.

Aside from its Godforsaken (Lucas) electrics, cantankerous (SU) carburetion, and propensity to leak oil out of every seam, an early "Type E," fitted with the famous 4.2 Liter "Lemans Six," produces a sound and provides performance guaranteed to thrill the heart and soul of any automobile enthusiast/purist! :yes:

The Jag IRS rear-end, with its unique, inboard disc brakes, a frequent choice of hot rodders, remains one of the most BEAUTIFUL rear suspension systems I've ever seen. :D

The all wheel drive new Taurus with the SHO twin turbo engine and six speed tranny could be a contender as a police car. The premium fuel requirement and enormous price tag would have to be dealt with somehow though.

The all wheel drive new Taurus with the SHO twin turbo engine and six speed tranny could be a contender as a police car. The premium fuel requirement and enormous price tag would have to be dealt with somehow though.

I remember when they used Taurus as a police car. And I think the brand spankin new one would be sexy :naughty:

http://www.motorauthority.com/content/images/2/0/2010_ford_taurus_sho_small-0210.jpg

http://www.easycarblog.com/wp-content/gallery/11_feb_2009-2010-ford-taurus-sho/2010_ford_taurus_sho_press_image_003.jpg

A chevy symbol would not look right on that car.

I have to agree, but I'm also having difficulty figuring out :scratch: - what they would do to those traditional Pontiac "nostrils" in a Chevrolet. IMO, doing anything would only damage the looks of the G8...

I posted a picture earlier in the thread with the Chevy version of the G8. They completely destroyed the G8 nose.

And WOT?

wide open throttle.......:biggrin:

To All:

I will definitely MISS the distinctive, traditional Pontiac "split grille" when they restyle the G8 to Chevy dullness/tastelessness. :thumbsdow

The new Ford Taurus, especially in "SHO" trim, is a BIG thumbsup in my book! A KILLER Machine! :thmsup: :yes:

http://image.internetautoguide.com/f/auto-news/new-chevrolet-caprice-2009-2010-pictures/18152427+cr1+re0+ar1/2010-chevrolet-caprice-new-look.jpg

I hate it..lol. Love the G8 in White/Red/Black...

Ugh...they castrated the G8. Might as well pull the V8 and stick an I4 in it.

I just noticed the spot for the fog lights on the picture of the Taurus that I posted. Are they trying to light up the people in the lane next to them? lol

The new Ford Taurus, especially in "SHO" trim, is a BIG thumbsup in my book! A KILLER Machine! :thmsup: :yes:

I'd kill for a new Taurus SHO!! 365HP twin turbo AWD !!!!!!

Unfortunately, nicely equipped it tops out at a cool $42,000 beans.

I just noticed the spot for the fog lights on the picture of the Taurus that I posted. Are they trying to light up the people in the lane next to them? lol

My guess is that the foglights will be recessed and pointed forward.

http://image.internetautoguide.com/f/auto-news/new-chevrolet-caprice-2009-2010-pictures/18152427+cr1+re0+ar1/2010-chevrolet-caprice-new-look.jpg

I hate it..lol. Love the G8 in White/Red/Black...

Agreed... it looks too much like the front of a Cobolt.

My guess is that the foglights will be recessed and pointed forward.

Well I figured that :rolleyes: lol. It just looks funny in the picture.

I remember when they used Taurus as a police car. And I think the brand spankin new one would be sexy :naughty:

http://www.motorauthority.com/content/images/2/0/2010_ford_taurus_sho_small-0210.jpg

http://www.easycarblog.com/wp-content/gallery/11_feb_2009-2010-ford-taurus-sho/2010_ford_taurus_sho_press_image_003.jpg

For some reason, it kind of looks like an Audi to me.

Today, July 17, it appears that the G8 to Chevy has been cancelled. That's according to Jalopnik. Pity if true.

Today, July 17, it appears that the G8 to Chevy has been cancelled. That's according to Jalopnik. Pity if true.

Until they actually release it, I'm sure there'll be rumors going back and forth about it.

BTW - I've also read that the Camaro Z-28 is now dead too.

today from Lutz taken from autoblog.com:

"The G8 will not be a Caprice after all. I'd mentioned it, and said we were studying it, giving it a serious look, because a car like the G8 was just too good to waste.

"That's all still true. But I have to say that, with my new "marketing" hat on, upon further review and careful study, we simply cannot make a business case for such a program. Not in today's market, in this economy, and with fuel regulations what they are and will be."

For some reason, it kind of looks like an Audi to me.

I can kinda see that. Maybe a smidgen.

today from Lutz taken from autoblog.com:

"The G8 will not be a Caprice after all. I'd mentioned it, and said we were studying it, giving it a serious look, because a car like the G8 was just too good to waste.

"That's all still true. But I have to say that, with my new "marketing" hat on, upon further review and careful study, we simply cannot make a business case for such a program. Not in today's market, in this economy, and with fuel regulations what they are and will be."

Whoever owns a G8 already just made a couple thousand extra when they sell it :yes:

Whoever owns a G8 already just made a couple thousand extra when they sell it :yes:

Not until they sell it down the road... there are still new G8s available at dealerships.

While it is a good car and the sales strong, it'll only be worth more if there are people who still want it down the road and few are available. If anything the ones that'll be in demand would be the V8 version since fewer of them were made.

today from Lutz taken from autoblog.com:

"The G8 will not be a Caprice after all. I'd mentioned it, and said we were studying it, giving it a serious look, because a car like the G8 was just too good to waste.

"That's all still true. But I have to say that, with my new "marketing" hat on, upon further review and careful study, we simply cannot make a business case for such a program. Not in today's market, in this economy, and with fuel regulations what they are and will be."

Geeezzz, color me surprised! :paranoid:
I told the guys on my Buick boards this wasn't going to happen. They didn't believe me either.

Whoever owns a G8 already just made a couple thousand extra when they sell it :yes:

That's the logic my boss gave me when he bought his hemi Challenger a few months ago. If they kill the car and/or Dodge his car should go up in value.

Not until they sell it down the road... there are still new G8s available at dealerships.

While it is a good car and the sales strong, it'll only be worth more if there are people who still want it down the road and few are available. If anything the ones that'll be in demand would be the V8 version since fewer of them were made.

Yes, that's what I was talking about. Later on down the road.