Guys I'm about to slam my 8th gen on some Tein SS'

I don't want to get my set of 20's yet because I cannot afford the ones that I want yet.

I like the look of the OEM wheels but I hate how far inset the OEM rears look...

So my remedy in the interim for now is to get some wheel spacers for the rear.

First off, I dont want to use anything but H&R. I'm not wiling to get some cheap stuff from flea bay... H&R has proven quality and are usually used on high end German cars like Porsches and stuff so I assume they'll be safe on my Accord.

Here are my concerns.

1. To go as wide as I want to back there, chances are I'll have to replace the studs, is that correct or am I going to be better off using the ones that are bolted down and then have thier own studs on them?

Basically I'm concerned with using the DRM series vs the DRS series as shown on thier site here:
http://www.hrsprings.com/products/trak/

2. If I do replace the studs, how does this hurt me down the line when I want to get my Work wheels made with the correct offsets for me? At that time I wont need extended more than likely, so then I run the risk of having to hold the wheels on with stupidly long ugly looking studs.

I think I answerd my own quesion here in that DRM is probably the way to go, but again I'm concerned with the studs that are actualy holding the wheel to be on the spacer and not on the hub itself.... is this a safety issue???

3. How wide of a spacer should I go with? I'm thinking 25mm... but is that too much?

4. Lastly, Does anyone know the hub size on the 09 accords? I want to say its 64.1mm but I'm not positive.

Thanks in advance guys I'm typing this out real quick at work so if I miss something or something seems unlcear please ask me to clarify.

25mm is too much. You will probably need new studs and chances are you will get vibration. You are right about the hub, it is 64.1. The stock wheel offset is +55, making that wheel look like a +35 will be quite a challenge.

the 25mm can only work if I do the DRM system which is it bolts to the hub itself, and then it has its own studs that the wheels then bolt to... thats the way I'm thinking I'm going to go... but the question is, is that safe/reliable?

they are hub centric, so I'm not sure if I will have problems with the wheels vibrating or not... what are your thoughts with this kind of setup?

I would wait till you slam your car at the height desired. Then do it the good ol fashion way and take a tape measure to the rear wheels and see what mm will make them flush. Better than guessing and being pissed later. Take measurements after drop and alignment. If not you will have -camber and when you correct it your spacers will be to far out.

yea 25mm is approx one full inch. Maybe a little to far. I'm not afraid to do a little rolling if necessary.

to do the DRM style, you MUST be at a minimum of 25mm i think. I'd rather do this I think than deal with changing out the studs.

I really dont want to do that beacuse when I order my wheels they will be custom ordered to the perfect offsets, I really dont want an extra long stud at that time.

25mm is too much. You will probably need new studs and chances are you will get vibration. You are right about the hub, it is 64.1. The stock wheel offset is +55, making that wheel look like a +35 will be quite a challenge.


Just to clarify, The stock 18x8 is +55... the 25mm Spacer would make the whole package 18x8 +30 correct??

For reference im on 20x8.5 +38 offset with a 5mm spacer and I could go out another 10-15mm to be flush with fender. My fenders are rolled. I'm going to wait till I'm dumped and aligned before going bigger on the spacers.

what kinda vibrations are you getting with the spacers? i was thinking about kicking out my rears for the time being till i switch wheels, what kinda spacers would i need for my HFP wheels?

The big key to it from what I remember when looking at stuff for my Prelude, was to make sure you got HUB CENTRIC spacers. that little lip that the wheel rests on makes a big difference.

I think the smallest H&R that is hub centric is 10mm wide.

What wheels are you saving up for ?

yea 25mm is approx one full inch. Maybe a little to far. I'm not afraid to do a little rolling if necessary.

to do the DRM style, you MUST be at a minimum of 25mm i think. I'd rather do this I think than deal with changing out the studs.

I really dont want to do that beacuse when I order my wheels they will be custom ordered to the perfect offsets, I really dont want an extra long stud at that time.

You could change out the OEM studs for longer studs for the spacers and then change them back out to new OEM studs when you get your wheels.

What wheels are you saving up for ?
Work Gnosis GS-1... I could afford them right now, its just that I'm really trying to save some dough and do some stuff to my house... I feel like my drop with a decent spacer for the rear wheels will be good enough for the time being... The OEM 18's are pretty damn good looking, i just wish there was a way to make the tires lower profile without having to screw with the odometer.


You could change out the OEM studs for longer studs for the spacers and then change them back out to new OEM studs when you get your wheels.
Changing studs esp on the front HUBs but also ont he rear are SUCH a pain in the ass... I really dont want to have to do it once, and especially not 2x.




I think I'm going to go with the 25mm in the rear and roll the fenders a bit if I end up needing to.

I'm also considering spacing the front out a little bit. but to do that without changing the studs, I am considering using the ICHIBA spacers, they make a 15mm with the studs integrated like I'm refering to. The problem is that the OEM studs from the HUB may stick out too far meaning they'll have to be either shortened or our OEM wheels need to have room.

I haven't taken my wheels off since I've owned the car so I dont know what it looks like back there... can anyone tell me what the hub surface of the wheels look like??
Please see this page for a brief explanation of whats required.
http://www.ichibausa.com/15albowhsp2.html

Worst case scenario I wont space the front out, just the rear.

Star check this thread out:

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28373&highlight=25mm+wheel+spacers

thanks boss, great link!

Next time use the SEARCH function fool...:lmao:

lol the thread helps, but still not quite the info I was looking for brosef esp since he's got the sedan and is refering to oem 17's not 18's.

thanks anyway though cuz it did help me decide on whether or not those types of spacers are okay/safe.

and i still am looking for some pics of the back of the OEM coupe 18's the back of the wheel that mounts to the hub. can anyone hook me up?

Yea those ebay spacers he used look good. They have hub centric lips and extended studs. CRS told me he has also had good experience with those. Once I slam my ish I will pick me up a pair of 15mm.

When you use the ones that have the studs on them, that mount onto the STOCK oem studs, from what I undrestand, if its less than 20mm... then the stock OEM studs will stick out too far past the spacer, and therefore go INTO the wheel.... if the wheel has a flat hub contact, then the wheel will not fit flush with the spacer and you'll have a problem

LUCKILY, I have found this picture:

http://www.oemrims.com/ebay/63937k5.JPG
http://www.ichibausa.com/15albowhsp2.html <--- looks like the upper left one as shown on this page! hell yea!

and confirmed that these are capable to work with the type of ichiba 15mm spacer I was trying to use as linked above...

hope that makes sense... but right now I'm considering doing 20mm in the rear and 15mm in the front. perhaps 25mm in the rear... not sure....

you have that guy's thread to use for reference but since I've got the coupe and the 18's, the fitment wont be exactly the same.

I expect to have to roll a bit... but i'm not sure how much.... excited to figure it out now though!!!

spaced out my photoshop of 15mm in front, and 25mm in rear. of course I have no way of actually measuring this in a photoshop, just an idea of the goal:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/starbai1985/spacedout.jpg

My recommendation would be to lower the ride first, and then take note of what spacers are needed.

"Slamming" will introduce a fair bit of negative camber, of which some can be corrected w/ an after-market camber kit (definitely worthwhile if 20" rims are planned along w/ a lowered ride-height, otherwise premature tire-wear will be an exorbitant cost over time). Also, a 25mm spacer will look different on a lowered vehicle vs. a vehicle at stock-height.

My friend is going through this as we speak, he got some rear 25mm hub-spacer adapters & they work well when his ride is extremely lowered, but not when it's at/near stock ride-height. He doesn't want to run his vehicle slammed due to speed-bumps, driveways, and approach/departure angles on many roads here. So now, he's gonna look into an airbag-suspension kit so he can use the spacers (have the 'tucked-in' look, but still not scrape in certain situations). . .

yea I've got the 3 arm camber kit, and the front ball joint camber kits as well...

they're going in too.

your friend with teh 25mm spacer is it on an accord?