08/24/05 The U.S. Department of Energy said that Unleaded gasoline supplies were down 3.2 million barrels.
08/17/05 The U.S. DoE said that Unleaded gasoline dropped 5.0 million barrels.
08/10/05 The DOE said that supplies of unleaded gasoline were down 2.1 million barrels.
08/10/05 The DOE reported 95.0% refinery use.
08/03/05 The DoE reported that U.S. supplies of unleaded gasoline dropped 4.0 million barrels
07/27/05 The U.S. DoE said that Unleaded gasoline supplies were down 2.1 million barrels.

Trading close prices of unleaded fuel on the NYMEX (Before distributor markup and taxes, about $ .50 in our area (Houston) based upon last Friday’s trading price of $2.044)

Friday August 25th closed @ $2.044 per gallon
Tuesday August 30th closed @ $2.515 per gallon
August 31st current trading price $2.685 per gallon 12:00PM EST

A friend of mine has confirmed that Shell has a major refinery down with damage in the NO area!

It looks like we will see $3.50 per gallon at the pump in the Houston area; up about $1.00 from the previous week AND shortages by this weekend!

Prices are on the move here today. I filled up at $2.59/gal, but passed two other stations with 3 blocks at $2.69 and $2.85.

Across the pump island was a sleek boat with twin 300hp Mecurys hanging off the stern. He rang up $200 even.

Prices are on the move here today. I filled up at $2.59/gal, but passed two other stations with 3 blocks at $2.69 and $2.85.

Across the pump island was a sleek boat with twin 300hp Mecurys hanging off the stern. He rang up $200 even.
That guy probably didn't fill up all the way either! He probably just called it quits after it hit $200! :lmao:

I'm kinda glad we don't have the old Chevy truck! It held 42 gallons & the boat 30....it was fun filling them for trips!!

I'll be going out in a little while...I'm afraid to see what the prices are here! :paranoid:

Saw prices ranging from $2.89-3.14/gallon for unleaded when I was out earlier; from $3.05-3.35 for premium. :(

$4.55 CDN / gal...

u should feel more fortunate! :paranoid:

$3.19 for LOL ($3.33 for OMG and $3.47 for WTF) is what I saw this morning. I have no doubt that it will rise even higher.

http://www.jairam.us/gallery/albums/pictures/album24/Photo_08_2.jpg

OMG! I saw gas last night on the way home for $2.79. (I'm like 10 minutes tops from the city lines) No big deal. I went downtown this afternoon and it was $3.49 for REGULAR!!! :rant: I thought they were opening up the reserves?
Walking to work never looked so good. With gas like this many people are not going to be able to afford to drive at all.... I'm still in shock!!!!

That guy probably didn't fill up all the way either! He probably just called it quits after it hit $200! :lmao:
What are the chances that instead of getting ready to hit the water over Labor Day, he was just using the boat as storage???

he was just using the boat as storage???

Now THAT'S an idea!!!

wohooo!!!! never thought i'd be saying this, but i'm happy that i just managed to fill my tank for $28!!! $2.59 a gallon!! one random station. PACKED.

a few stray $2.69 ones.

the rest were between 2.89 and 3.19 for regular.....

Gas jumped to 3.00/gal everywhere in middle GA today.. first time in my life I've seen "out of gas" at a gas station too...

the line at the station today was very surprising... the delay between the hurricane hitting and the ramp up in pricing made it seem like there wasn't going to be a jump...

oh well.. we'll be begging for $3 a gallon gas someday...

good thing I get 30MPG in the RSX and Accord...

oh yeah, photos...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/autodaemmerung/

This morning gas was around $2.49 for 87 octane.

On the way out tonight we saw gas for $2.99 at most places.

On the drive back home an hour or so later, it was $3.09 at most places.

It is weird to see it go up so fast in an hour.

Local mobil station here in NH:

Monday - $2.51
Tuesday - $2.65
Wednesday PM - $2.98

And that's the norm - most stations are up 45 cents in 3 days.

I stopped by a no-name station tonite that was a "bargain" at $2.79 - then they ran out of gas 2 hours later.

This is like the early 70's.....

andy

this afternoon, driving down one main road, I waw three prices on the same block, as in less than 1/8 mile on the same road. super america, $3.25, BP, $2.85, mobil, $2.99. none were obviously marked as "sold out".

I'm told that in WI, places can only change thier prices one time per day by law. dunno any further regulations on that though...

On the way home from class tonight I go through an area by O'Hare that is all industrial and has really cheap gas (usually). It was all $3.31+. There was one gas station by my apartment that was $2.99 a gallon still, but the lines were out on the street and people were yelling at each other and honking their horns. I'm thinking of getting back up in a few hours and going over there to get gas, hopefully most of the angry people will be gone. Gotta love the 30 mile commute to work daily :nuts:

$2.41 on Post today for regular, but it is going up to $2.99 in the morning. I filled the cars, 3 gas cans, and 2 gallon milk jugs!

Some stores in town were already over $3 for regular.

ok if I am right or wrong here it is time for Bush and all his greedy buddies and all his relative to say we made enough oil profits time to lower the price.
Yes am aware of the (sad, sad, happenings in NO, and Miss and other area) but in a small way U know i am right.

It time for people to start demanding help also for those people in the hurricane area too. I think the national channels should have been reporting it more at night. OK done with rant.

ok if I am right or wrong here it is time for Bush and all his greedy buddies and all his relative to say we made enough oil profits time to lower the price.
Yes am aware of the (sad, sad, happenings in NO, and Miss and other area) but in a small way U know i am right.

It time for people to start demanding help also for those people in the hurricane area too. I think the national channels should have been reporting it more at night. OK done with rant.

They are too busy making $$$ to worry about NO! You would have thought they could have brought the army into NO Monday afternoon to control the looting.

The oil companies are saying that if the government interfers with the prices, they will slow production & make shortages. So we'd get high prices plus gas lines!

They could make laws stating how much & how often stations can raise prices though....that would help! They had Atlanta on the news with gougers...up to 6 bucks! I hope they get in trouble!!! Some hotels near the path are also gouging. Charging 200 per night for motel 6 type places!! I think if we see any chains doing that, we should boycott them nation wide!!! :yes:

regular is holding at $3.09 here, give or take a few cents. I just filled up this morning, and as I pulled in, an Expedition with 30-day tags was leaving the pump; the driver looked like she was about to cry...

I dunno guys, I am not so quick to say that this is all Bush's fault as IMO it is not.

US politics has been bought by oil money for 20+ years. For at least 20 years there were practically no increases in vehicle MPG requirements.

So guess what - with our rafineries running at 98% utilization (I read this about a month ago can't remember where) - and that was barely meeting the demand (thus the price kept increasing in last several months) - it's simply time to stop guzzling as much. It's a harsh reality. I think I read it that US has 5%of world population but spends 30% of world oil. Think about that!

This country did not build a new refinary since 1980s. There is no cheap way to increase the gas production. While the supply of crude is not such a problem (it can be helped y the reserves opening - but just so you know, those reserves would be spent in about 2 months at the tempo that this country spends oil).

Of course - the fact that the polititians are not really interested in ticking anyone off, and therefore are passing rediculous bills such as just passed Energy bill (which is really saying "we hope that the market forces will force people to save and that's what is going to save us all") - that all just does not help either.

I am quite pesimistic about the whole energy outlook around here and afraid that increased prices will kill the ecenomy, which in US - is COMPLETELY dependant on cheap energy.

i too believe that this whole thing will hurt the economysignificantly.

look at the trickle down effect. today everyone is worried about how to fill up their own cars.

just wait till the cost of other goods increase because shipping costs increase drastically!!

but i am in disagreement with the govt not be responsible for any of it. yes, there are a bunch of dumb consumers too (who in the hell needs a hummer?????), but we can't blame only ignorant consumers.

personally, i have never really been a huge fan of how our govt operates and this is just one more nail in that coffin.

can i buy a deserted island somewhere and be self sufficient and ignore the rest of the world??? :lmao:

I went this morning to the station I photographed yesterday for coffee at dunkin donuts and they are still holding steady at $3.19/gallon.

Other stations in NYC are inching closer to $3.00, some of them over. I think some of them are living in denial by keeping their price at $2.99 (and 9/10).

New Jersey isn't much different. Here in Livingston it's $2.99 at Exxon and Mobil. Haven't checked BP. But I suspect I will in a while when I get out of here.

Time to get Mexico to kick down some oil.

Time to get Mexico to kick down some oil.


The problem is not oil. It's refining capacity.

You could suck all the oil out of the ground, but if you can't refine it, gas prices are going to remain the same.

The problem is not oil. It's refining capacity.

You could suck all the oil out of the ground, but if you can't refine it, gas prices are going to remain the same.

Supply is part of the problem, since 2000-2005 fuel price increases were most directly hitched to the market cost per barrel of crude, not refining costs. The factor of refining fuel translated into a $.25 premium in CA due to refining methods.

Case and point: If our refineries in CA are not affected by the recent calamity, why did I just pay $3.00 per gallon here in the Bay Area.

World oil demand is what will drive crude way beyond $100 per barrel, and we'll be paying $5-7 at the pump in no time.

yes, there are a bunch of dumb consumers too (who in the hell needs a hummer?????), but we can't blame only ignorant consumers.

You know, come to think of it, I haven't seen ANY of those on the road in the past couple of weeks. Used to see at least 3-5 a day on my commute. I guess they're no longer cool when it costs $100+ a week to keep the tank full.

gahhh i knew i should have filled up earlier this week before they found out the damage extent of katrina!! gas was about $2.69 over the weekend and now its $3.09!! i only have 1/4 tank lef too! crap!! :(

You know there's a problem when the gas station is crowded at 9pm at night when the gas is at $2.759/ gallon! :rolleyes:

im still seeing plenty of hummers around here... :rolleyes: well, no less than normal atleast.

but people arouind the place i work are starting to talk about getting rid of suv's and larger gas hog cars....

guess what?? alot are considering honda. ;)

one thign im curious to see.... will this curb holiday weekend travel plans for people?? i would LOVE that. less traffic for me cause it ain't going to put a damper on my holiday travel plans!!! :banana:

I don't think so.. It's not that much more $$ for the trip if you think about it.. If you buy one less souvenir, then it will more than make up for the price difference... On a 1000 mile trip, you spend about $100 in gas (a little less for I4) vs $87 on the old price... I mean, it is going to be a little more expensive, but not prohibitively so. :)

im still seeing plenty of hummers around here... :rolleyes: well, no less than normal atleast.

Well it's not like they're going to just vanish into thin air (duh...) :lmao:

Someone told me they saw a guy with a brand new Expedition in the parking lot at a local mall. It didn't even have the tags on it yet, just temporary tags.

The owner was in the driver's seat crying.

I don't think so.. It's not that much more $$ for the trip if you think about it.. If you buy one less souvenir, then it will more than make up for the price difference... On a 1000 mile trip, you spend about $100 in gas (a little less for I4) vs $87 on the old price... I mean, it is going to be a little more expensive, but not prohibitively so. :)


But I bet many people are looking at the price at the pump and saying , "Holy cow, gas is expensive!! "

I know some people here are talking about taking their motorcycles to work instead of driving. If only I still had a bike... :naughty:

one thign im curious to see.... will this curb holiday weekend travel plans for people?? i would LOVE that. less traffic for me cause it ain't going to put a damper on my holiday travel plans!!! :banana:
deffinately not changing any of my plans for the next two weeks.. :thmsup:

deffinately not changing any of my plans for the next two weeks.. :thmsup:

better not :blah:

better not :blah:
not a chance. :nuts:

:blah:

im making some more progress over here... ;)

Well it's not like they're going to just vanish into thin air (duh...) :lmao:

Someone told me they saw a guy with a brand new Expedition in the parking lot at a local mall. It didn't even have the tags on it yet, just temporary tags.

The owner was in the driver's seat crying.

gee, they didn't realize that gas prices were outrageous to begin with?? time to look at the fact that they overspent on the car.... :lmao:

i complain about it because i dont think the prices are right. but i can still pay for it when needed. it's all part of my budget.

this is too true....

Check out this link for pricing........................................... .......
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/gasprices/states/index.shtml

I1 :)

I still say the Gov and Bush (since he likes to say he is concerned) that today we are lowering the speed limit to 55 MPH again back to the 80's area. Does anyone remember that? OOOOOO what and outcry across USA that would be! People in their big gas PIG suv crying that they can not do 90mph.
This would be a huge hit to the gas companies and besides everyone wins. US since we are spending less on gas, environment less toxic polluants given off by you and I. Since we are buying less gas the price would have to come down. The loser Bush and his cousins OIL companies and his dads friends over in the middle east. OOOOOO Ya also all those special interest oil Lobby people getting paid big bucks to pedal to all our so called friends in DC.

This is all I am looking for Gov to do. You have to ask why this is not even happening. Doesn't anyone thing that this should happen too? Again just say we are lowering the speed limit. They did it before for all remember.

O YA sorry about misspelled words in last reply, too early in the morning. I did not have my coffee this morning.

I just have to respond to this...

I still say the Gov and Bush (since he likes to say he is concerned) that today we are lowering the speed limit to 55 MPH again back to the 80's area. Does anyone remember that? OOOOOO what and outcry across USA that would be! People in their big gas PIG suv crying that they can not do 90mph.
Are you suggesting to lower the speed limit on the highway? Do you realize many Americans have to commute long distances? Your idea would force me to spend 20 more minutes of the day driving for an amount of gas savings (small) that I would be more than willing to pay for. No personal offense but of all of the solutions available this seems to be the worst I have heard. By the way, not only SUV drivers go 90MPH and it's a bit rediculous to make such a statement. Also, do you expect people to suddenly become law abiding citizens when the speed limit is dropped 10-15 MPH? I mean those SUV drivers going 90MPH are already over the limit on every road I've been on.

Here's a couple better solutions...

Biodiesel: Shipping trucks, school and commercial buses, etc. account for a HUGE amount of gas yearly. Biodiesal can be manufactured for much less than petroleum based gas at current prices and their trucks (most of which run diesel fuel) can be retrofitted to use biodiesel relatively cheaply.

Federal Mandates: Auto manufacturers can be forced to sell vehicles that meet certain efficiency requirements. 25MPG highway would be a good starting target. With today's technology, even a well engineered hybrid SUV could get good gas mileage.


This would be a huge hit to the gas companies and besides everyone wins. US since we are spending less on gas, environment less toxic polluants given off by you and I. Since we are buying less gas the price would have to come down. The loser Bush and his cousins OIL companies and his dads friends over in the middle east. OOOOOO Ya also all those special interest oil Lobby people getting paid big bucks to pedal to all our so called friends in DC.
Jeeze....no comment here.

This is all I am looking for Gov to do. You have to ask why this is not even happening. Doesn't anyone thing that this should happen too? Again just say we are lowering the speed limit. They did it before for all remember.
The kind of savings you are talking about with a 10MPG drop in the speed limit is a drop in the bucket. Perhaps 1MPG savings. It's not worth the hassle.

lowering the speed limit will not affect driving styles.

i can personally attest to this. having put about 10k on my car over the past 3 months, i know that in pa (near pitt)where the speed limit is 55mph, vs in nyc where it is 45, vs northern oh which is 65, vs indiana where you get up to 70, il near chicago, 45 and 65, wi 65, the speed of motorists generally does NOT change, unless there is traffic!! if you aren't doing 75-80 in any of these locations, you are going below the speed of traffic. go much above and you are going faster. so whether the speed limit is 45 on a highway or 70, the ACTUAL speed of cars does not vary significantly at all!!! :yes: so the only thing lowering speed limits would do is increase revenue to local municipalities and states for handing out more tickets withlarger $ amounts. that is IF the police can afford to fuel their cruisers.... :lmao:

As I understand it, the newer car's gear ratio make that 55 for better mpg not work anymore. So many would be using MORE gas at that speed. The hogs we had in the 70's were a different animal!

I still say the Gov and Bush (since he likes to say he is concerned) that today we are lowering the speed limit to 55 MPH again back to the 80's area. Does anyone remember that? OOOOOO what and outcry across USA that would be! People in their big gas PIG suv crying that they can not do 90mph.
This would be a huge hit to the gas companies and besides everyone wins. US since we are spending less on gas, environment less toxic polluants given off by you and I. Since we are buying less gas the price would have to come down. The loser Bush and his cousins OIL companies and his dads friends over in the middle east. OOOOOO Ya also all those special interest oil Lobby people getting paid big bucks to pedal to all our so called friends in DC.

This is all I am looking for Gov to do. You have to ask why this is not even happening. Doesn't anyone thing that this should happen too? Again just say we are lowering the speed limit. They did it before for all remember.

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lowering the speed limit will not affect driving styles.

i can personally attest to this. having put about 10k on my car over the past 3 months, i know that in pa (near pitt)where the speed limit is 55mph, vs in nyc where it is 45, vs northern oh which is 65, vs indiana where you get up to 70, il near chicago, 45 and 65, wi 65, the speed of motorists generally does NOT change, unless there is traffic!! if you aren't doing 75-80 in any of these locations, you are going below the speed of traffic. go much above and you are going faster. so whether the speed limit is 45 on a highway or 70, the ACTUAL speed of cars does not vary significantly at all!!! :yes: so the only thing lowering speed limits would do is increase revenue to local municipalities and states for handing out more tickets withlarger $ amounts. that is IF the police can afford to fuel their cruisers.... :lmao:
this is true :yes:
As I understand it, the newer car's gear ratio make that 55 for better mpg not work anymore. So many would be using MORE gas at that speed. The hogs we had in the 70's were a different animal!
this is true too :yes: . over at hondapilot.org, the members seem to agree that the Pilot gets best MPG at 70-75 mph. every car will be different have have its own "sweet spot" for mileage. you cant just put out a general statement like "you save more gas at 55" and expect it to be true for everyone.

Well it's not like they're going to just vanish into thin air (duh...) :lmao:

Someone told me they saw a guy with a brand new Expedition in the parking lot at a local mall. It didn't even have the tags on it yet, just temporary tags.

The owner was in the driver's seat crying.Yes, but what they forgot to mention is that he was crying because he lost a relative/friend in the recent storm, or his wife just left him. What the heck does crying in a mall parking lot have to do with the gas situation?

If you can afford a new Expedition, rising gas prices are probably not going to make you cry any time soon...

As I understand it, the newer car's gear ratio make that 55 for better mpg not work anymore. So many would be using MORE gas at that speed. The hogs we had in the 70's were a different animal!

I'm glad someone else mentioned this. I was going to say this is what I've noticed from my personal expereice but thought people would think I was nuts or just drving to rationalize speeding. :D I swear I get my best fuel mileage in the 70-75mph range. The engine is revving high enough that there is torque to keep you cruising steady but its not revving so hi that it is wasteful. Any lower and I'm struggling up steep hills in 5th (manual tranny - so it won't kick down by iteself.) Having to down shift revs the engine, uses gas and then you're accelerating trying to get back to a steady state cruising speed.

I swear I get my best fuel mileage in the 70-75mph range. The engine is revving high enough that there is torque to keep you cruising steady but its not revving so hi that it is wasteful. Any lower and I'm struggling up steep hills in 5th (manual tranny - so it won't kick down by iteself.) Having to down shift revs the engine, uses gas and then you're accelerating trying to get back to a steady state cruising speed.While this may be true for your car, I have never owned a car that the gas mileage improved over about 65 MPH (not saying they are not out there, just that I have not owned them). This has been true of cars, vans, and motorcycles.

What IS true is that when you are travelling over 65-70MPH, you are typically on a highway, cruise control is on, and conditions are favorable for steady cruise. Not like driving in town, where you are constantly starting & stopping, and your foot is in and out of the gas pedal.

i know so far my best gas mileage resulted from the trip i was cruising mainly between 70 and 80. next best was hovering around the speed limit 65-70ish. both on and off cruise and similar traffic, same exact roads. the mpg were very similar, so it's hard to say which one indeed resulted in the best mpg.... :dunno: buthey, kick that up to cruising between 80 and 95 and well, mpg really didn't drop enough to curb that driving style either. drop it down to alot of traffic and slower cruise for a 100 mile or so stretch of road (30-40mph) and mpg dropped.

i have no explanation for my 32-33 mpg run last time on the way home except i let stevel drive my car for about 50 miles on that tank. :lmao:

Just got home from driving around the Westchester county area, just north of NYC. The cheapest regular gas I saw was $3.23; the most expensive was $3.85. Most stations seem to be in the $3.39-$3.49 range for regular now.

Never thought I'd be glad I filled up for $2.89/gal!!!

All i can say is that's your car! Yes if you are in stop and go traffic you will waste more gas. It makes sense to me. But if you are going 80 to 90 mph your are using more gas too to get to that speed and maintain that speed.

All i can say is that's your car! Yes if you are in stop and go traffic you will waste more gas. It makes sense to me. But if you are going 80 to 90 mph your are using more gas too to get to that speed and maintain that speed.

i have put 10k on my car this summer. i can assure you it doesn't use significantly more gas to cruie beteen 80 and 90....

at a constant 30-40 i use more gas than at 80-90.

to each his own though. all i know is how my car reacts to different scenarios and different speeds and where i max out my mpg's and where i have the best mix of fe and speed. and what will kill my gas mileage. and i will do what my car and myself as the driver combined with my wallet is happiest with.

The gas station across from the hospital where I live had regular for $2.39/gal a few days ago. Today, it's $3.09/gal for regular. I do very little driving now, as I only have to go to a class at a nearby university every other day. All the rest of my classes are here at my nursing school in the hospital. It's nice. But even with driving very little, I'm really very glad that I went with the 2.4 instead of the 3.0!

I keep hearing that prices are likely to spike up to $4.00/gal or $5.00/gal by Thanksgiving.

Even if they do, Europe has had fuel prices this high for years. It hasn't killed their economy; they adapted. We will do the same.

One of the cool things about the Navi is the trip computer....you can see how much you're using in real time.... mine uses less at 75 than at 40. For mine it's mostly how fast you get to the speed, more than which speed you settle on. We have our best freeway mpg's at 85.

Check out this link for pricing........................................... .......
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/gasprices/states/index.shtml

I1 :)


Actually I think they link to this site too:

http://www.gasbuddy.com

Just got home from driving around the Westchester county area, just north of NYC. The cheapest regular gas I saw was $3.23; the most expensive was $3.85. Most stations seem to be in the $3.39-$3.49 range for regular now.

Never thought I'd be glad I filled up for $2.89/gal!!!


Filled up today in NY (Queens) for $3.09/gallon at Mobil on Conduit blvd.

I didn't go to work, but even so most stations there are either $2.99/gallon or higher. So going to jersey wouldn't have gotten me much savings anyway.

Remember that gas station whose picture I posted a couple days ago? They're now up to $3.47/gallon for LOL gas. I saw a guy with a pickup today with several gas canisters filling up. :thumbsdow It's stupid panic buying like this that will cause even more inflation in the already overinflated gas prices.

As I understand it, the newer car's gear ratio make that 55 for better mpg not work anymore. So many would be using MORE gas at that speed. The hogs we had in the 70's were a different animal!


As far as I understand, the problem isn't gear ratios. It's wind resistance. The wind resistance goes up dramatically past 40mph in even the most aerodynamic cars, from what I understand.

Why are people panicing anyway? Just because some oil refineries are damaged and cannot produce gas, doesn't mean that gas production would stop completely.. I reccommend people need to take economics classes in elementary school! Supply and demand... The more demand, the higher the prices..... :blah:

the problem isn't gear ratios

Newer cars DEFINATELY have different gear ratios!! Just think fo how many more speeds the AT's have!

I've never thought they knew what's the best with the areodynamics... why would they keep changing their minds!!?? Of course, a wege will act better in the wind than a box, but as far as what shaped wedge.... :dunno: It used to be that every new model that came out was "more areodynamically designed". Then they'd go back to virtually the same as the past on the next gen.... (not talking Hondas, but cars in general)

I reccommend people need to take economics classes in elementary school! Supply and demand...

We don't have economics in elementary school here! :lmao: That's a high school thing!

I'm not paniced. I'm just hoping the prices don't go up so much that it raises the prices of too many other things. "Gas" effects food too. So if pretty much everything goes up 10%, but not pay...... :paranoid: this isn't all about the gas prices, it's also the chain reaction it causes. Things that go through New Orleans' ports have already been predicted to rise. Sending stuff out to sell internationally will be difficult.... there's lots of legs on this spider!!

I'm not paniced. I'm just hoping the prices don't go up so much that it raises the prices of too many other things. "Gas" effects food too. So if pretty much everything goes up 10%, but not pay...... :paranoid: this isn't all about the gas prices, it's also the chain reaction it causes. Things that go through New Orleans' ports have already been predicted to rise. Sending stuff out to sell internationally will be difficult.... there's lots of legs on this spider!!

Yeah, it's not just Gas that's more expensive in Europe... EVERYTHING is more expensive in Europe... I know when I first came to the US 11 years ago, I couldn't believe how cheap everything was. And, of course, salaries etc. are much higher here as well. I think we forget sometimes just how good and easy life is in this country.

IMOL

At least we're not having to line up (Yet) like I've experienced before.......with a 5 gallon limit.

I think the areas that have shortages right now should do a 10 gal. limit instead of a 6 dollar price. It's more fair!

At least we're not having to line up (Yet) like I've experienced before.......with a 5 gallon limit.Local gas stations here in South AL have lines (albeit short ones), and some are limiting purchases to $20. Wednesday night (3 days ago) I had to sit in a line for 30 minutes to get gas @ $2.41/gal.

Newer cars DEFINATELY have different gear ratios!! Just think fo how many more speeds the AT's have!

Not disputing that, but in highway driving, more than 50% of the energy required to propel the car is expended overcoming wind resistance. That's why I said that it's more of a question of wind resistance rather than gear ratios.

I'm sure it's a blend of many factors....car, drivers, driving conditions...... :dunno:

I probably am one of those that could have the car off, coasting down hill & still end up with nasty MPG!! :lmao: Whereas my prince could keep it at 90 uphill & have 34 MPG!!

I'm sure it's a blend of many factors....car, drivers, driving conditions...... :dunno:

I probably am one of those that could have the car off, coasting down hill & still end up with nasty MPG!! :lmao: Whereas my prince could keep it at 90 uphill & have 34 MPG!!


Yep, I agree. It is many factors.

What I found amazing is how much energy in gasoline is actually used to move the car forward. When one of the ME profs in school told me this I was completely flabbergasted.

Are you ready for this?

You'd better sit down.

15%.

The rest is used primarily to overcome mechanical losses, then you have heat (both through combustion and friction), light, sound and electricity.

So now we're faced with overcoming inefficiency in two places - between the combustion chamber and the wheels, and between the car and your destination. :lmao: