I noticed this morning there is an advertisement on top of the board soliciting Accord owners to provide a California law firm information concerning Accord rear brake problems. Essentially, it's an attempt to recruit clients for a class action law suit.

For the benefit of those who are unfamiliar with class action law suits, the pattern is this: A plaintiffs' firm solicts potential clients for the "class" via notices in newpapers, trade journals, websites and direct "notices" mailed to vehicle owners. The firm then requests a court to "certify" (i.e. recognize) the class and name their firm to represent the class of plaintiffs. They then file a lawsuit, typically claiming millions of dollars in damages. What they really want, of course, is a financial settlement, which is supposed to be divided among the plaintiffs. The problem is that before the lawyers pay any sums to the individuals who made up the class, the law firm typically deducts enormous legal fees and all the costs associated with the suit, up to an including the postage on all correspondence sent the clients. In this manner, the firm makes a great deal of money, and the individual plaintiffs typically get mere pennies on the dollar, if that. It sounds great in the initial soliciation/notification letter (read the ad), but ultimately this sort of legal work is just a nickel shy of a scam created to benefit the lawyers involved.

Yep I can't agree with you more. Class action lawsuits only benefit the gum under the shoe lawyers and not the people that have been suffering the most. I guess money talks as to why these sort of suits have not been outlawed.

who knows? maybe u'll score a free oil change on honda!

who knows? maybe u'll score a free oil change on honda!

Honda will get what they deserve for not attending to a safety issue if that is the way the courts see. The lawyers get filthy rich off of it although they are the least affected by the problem to begin with. Accord owners will likely get a chack in the mail for $0.30. That is how justice in the US works, and I use the term very loosely.

Honda will get what they deserve for not attending to a safety issue if that is the way the courts see. The lawyers get filthy rich off of it although they are the least affected by the problem to begin with. Accord owners will likely get a chack in the mail for $0.30. That is how justice in the US works, and I use the term very loosely.

FYI the problem with the rear brakes on 8th gen accords is premature wear, and as such it is not considered a safety issue. Honda still needs to address the problem, however.

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Honda will get what they deserve for not attending to a safety issue if that is the way the courts see. The lawyers get filthy rich off of it although they are the least affected by the problem to begin with. Accord owners will likely get a chack in the mail for $0.30. That is how justice in the US works, and I use the term very loosely.

The system's not perfect, but it's better than most alternatives at least.

FYI the problem with the rear brakes on 8th gen accords is premature wear, and as such it is not considered a safety issue. Honda still needs to address the problem, however.

It's not but it will still end up costing Honda money to battle it out in court. Money that should have been spent to hire additional resources to fix the problem quicker.

We shouldn't have these problems so soon. Motor trend even commented on the premature brake issue a few months ago.

It's really embarassing driving on the interstate while my car makes this awful metal grinding sound. It sounds like my wheel is going to fly off.

The last gen had one of these in regards to the Speedometer and Odometer being off by as much as 5%, which could result in your car rolling out of warranty faster then it really did. I got my warranty extended an extra 1K, and a check for $12.00. I traded the car a week later.......

I agree in theroy, a class action is great, you get enough people all in one suit that it gets the manu's attention, however the only one that really makes $$$$ is the Atty and the manu looses money that could have been spent directly fixing the problem with the customer. I'm a little dissapointed with Honda on this one, its a known issue, they should make it right.

i wonder why my brakes lasted so long. i changed my rears at 35K miles. my fronts still had 60% life at that point too.

i wonder why my brakes lasted so long. i changed my rears at 35K miles. my fronts still had 60% life at that point too.


........the premature wear issue.........does it pertain to Generations other than VIII?

(My 6M has 70k on OEM factory original pads.....at tire rotation time, the word has always been the same: "Pads OK".........

Should I seek a second opinion?

Great car/strange clutch.

ez....

Nighthawk4: I sent you a PM.

No ez you're fine, some premature wear on the 7th gen has been reported though.

I'm at 37K on the original pads and shoes. 8 for the front, 4 for the rear. Mind you I have drums in the back and they start out at 5-6, front pads start at 10-12. I think it's mostly an issue with automatics, they tend to ride their brakes. See it every day on the road.

By my calculations, I shouldn't need to replace either of my brakes till at least 70K in the worse case, and closer to 100K in the best case. That is if they continue to wear at the same rate and evenly.

utltimately i could care less for any money... i just want them to fix the problems once and for all.. if that means upgrading everyone to high dollar ceramic stuff or something i dunno just do it and thats all i could ask for...

Lawyers are legal crooks.

I'm pretty sure they already use ceramic pads.

Lawyers are legal crooks.

you wouldn't be saying that if a lawyer saved your life

The brakes are little different that I have experienced with my del sol and civic. I didn't have the right size socket accessible to open up to see the pads behind the rotor. So, I only saw from the front of the rotor.

If it comes down where warranty will not cover the problem, I am going to buy a manual to work on the car.

This sounds like a law firm trying to line its pockets with money that would be better spent on researching quality assurance for the Accord braking system.

What a legal mess. Honda could settle out of court (probably cheaper for Honda), but it would be better (probably not the cost effective choice for Honda) if they could take it to court with the intention of admitting their mistake and promising to afford higher quality assurance for the braking system of past/present/future Accords. Of course that is asking too much in a perfect world, lol.

Can anyone say, tort reform?

My question is why do the admin(s) let those crooks post that crap here?:dunno:

i just had my rear brakes worked on today. I had a horrific grinding sound so i took it. in. Needed new pads and resurfacing of the rotors, $450 dollars later. Keep in mind my car is an 09 with only 25k miles on it.

Yep I can't agree with you more. Class action lawsuits only benefit the gum under the shoe lawyers and not the people that have been suffering the most. I guess money talks as to why these sort of suits have not been outlawed.

Welcome to the real problem with the healthcare system. Of course most of the politicians are attorneys so I wouldn't expect any real tort reform other than the occasional chest beating. Mall practice and BS frivolous lawsuits have cost more money in more categories in this country than anyone can even begin to comprehend. Lawyers, while we need some of them, are leeches. They are not producers and without producers they would not have jobs. It is sickening how wealthy some get and have the nerve to get arrogant. What have they actually accomplished? Nothing.

Sorry off my soap box.

Don't even get me started, I have 3 sets of rear brake pads sitting in my garage ontop of 1 set sitting in the car, I have already changed the rear pads 5 times, including Yesterday; all 4 rotors replaced about 5 months ago, and front pads 1 time (Same time with rotors). My rear right rotor already requires resurfacing. 33k Miles. I could continue, but I will just stop there.

To big and heavy of a car for too small of a breaking system.

The lawyers are Chumming the water...

The viral posting on every Honda Forum of issues that are supposed to be enormous in scale wreak of a kabal.

While I don't usually wear my foil hat in public, most of the complaints are so friggen outrageous and trivial that it makes one think what most people would do if they didn't have legislation or a legal action to help them feel entitled.

The lawyers are Chumming the water...

The viral posting on every Honda Forum of issues that are supposed to be enormous in scale wreak of a kabal.

While I don't usually wear my foil hat in public, most of the complaints are so friggen outrageous and trivial that it makes one think what most people would do if they didn't have legislation or a legal action to help them feel entitled.

preach on bro.

Welcome to the real problem with the healthcare system. Of course most of the politicians are attorneys so I wouldn't expect any real tort reform other than the occasional chest beating. Mall practice and BS frivolous lawsuits have cost more money in more categories in this country than anyone can even begin to comprehend. Lawyers, while we need some of them, are leeches. They are not producers and without producers they would not have jobs. It is sickening how wealthy some get and have the nerve to get arrogant. What have they actually accomplished? Nothing.

Sorry off my soap box.

As much as I would want healthcare reform, I don't think we are going to see it. My mother doesn't work (medical condition) and we have to pay $300/mth for just basic healthcare insurance. My father doesn't make a lot of money so I have to help out with other bills such as the electricity, etc. While doctors should be held accountable for their actions, I think it is absurd at some of the settlements that people get and those need to capped.

I know people have a love/hate relationship with Michael Moore but if you watched the Jay Leno show last night he had mentioned that with the 700 billion bailout people wrote to their Congressman opposed to it and then Henry Paulson and his cronies went up to Capitol Hill throwing money to both Democrats and Republicans to get it passed. Then what does Goldman Sachs do? They give out $11 billion in bonuses. I've also had more bitterness to Republicans then Democrats but they are both corrupt and we have a broken system that really needs to be fixed.

Sorry for going a bit off topic but this is one thing that I am really for.



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My question is why do the admin(s) let those crooks post that crap here?
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Just like Henry Paulson did to get the bailout passes, money talks and is needed to keep the site going.

i get reprimanded by osiris for teasing elp_jc, and yet this thread survives in the 8th gen forum. i think the politics on DA are just as corrupt.

The class action lawsuit need to include free future brake replacements/services for current owners. I hope I don't run into this premature brake wear issues and have to spend $450 like someone mentioned earlier. If that turns out to be the case I'll be trading my Accord a lot sooner than I wanted.

Nothing wrong with class-action lawsuits and litigation-happy barristers that "loser pays" and a fifteen-year moratorium on law school admissions couldn't fix. . . .

i get reprimanded by osiris for teasing elp_jc, and yet this thread survives in the 8th gen forum. i think the politics on DA are just as corrupt.Incorrect. You got warned by a moderator for singling out & antagonizing another member, and that very member was the one who reported you. Sort it out w/ them, point your finger at yourself, take a deep breath & get over it. . .

Incorrect. You got warned by a moderator for singling out & antagonizing another member, and that very member was the one who reported you. Sort it out w/ them, point your finger at yourself, take a deep breath & get over it. . .

ya my fault, it'd have been nice to know that when you initially sent me the warning.

My question is why do the admin(s) let those crooks post that crap here?:dunno:

The ads at the top are provided by Google and the site owner has no control over which ones pop up. Since this is a Honda forum the majority of the ads pertain to Honda in some way, but sometimes there are other car related ads. With the Google ads it is all or nothing, you don't get to pick and choose what shows up. But thanks to them the site is free.

The ads at the very bottom from the forum sponsors are the only ones the site owner has control over.