View Full Version : New 06 Accord or Used 04 TL?


fotodad
10-05-2005, 06:18 AM
Given they'd cost about the same. And given the TL were in good shape with appropriate miles for an 04, which would you be inclined to get? Please take the poll and explain your answer.

And please only discuss these two cars. While I'm sure there is a plethora of other cars to consider which would fit in that budget, please only focus on either an 06 Accord or a used 04 TL.
Thanks!

stevel
10-05-2005, 06:23 AM
well, having had two, maybe three '04 accords(basically same as the '06) and now havnig a TL, they are incredibly similar. if you want the styling, features, and longer warranty, get the TL. awsome car. love it. but have to admit I still enjoy the easy driving of the accord now and then. be prepared if you go for a TL with the MT to expect to "work" to drive it. way too hard to putz around slowly and traffic gets very annoying with that car.

anysia
10-05-2005, 06:38 AM
i'd go for the new accord, but only because i prefer new over used. i'm a little too particular about my car and i like to start fresh.

and if it's a mt, yes, accord is much easier to drive, assuming it's the 5spd mt. i've read that the v6 6spd is more difficult, much more similar to the tl.

if you're talking at's, well, that brings up an entirely new ballgame.

are you comparing 4cyl or v6 accords with the tl? and at or mt? i guess that's a point we all need to know.... :dunno: (ask stevel, the at tl is a completely different car from the mt tl.....)

fotodad
10-05-2005, 07:01 AM
i'd go for the new accord, but only because i prefer new over used. i'm a little too particular about my car and i like to start fresh.

and if it's a mt, yes, accord is much easier to drive, assuming it's the 5spd mt. i've read that the v6 6spd is more difficult, much more similar to the tl.

if you're talking at's, well, that brings up an entirely new ballgame.

are you comparing 4cyl or v6 accords with the tl? and at or mt? i guess that's a point we all need to know.... :dunno: (ask stevel, the at tl is a completely different car from the mt tl.....)
Good questions!

It'd be either getting an automatic 06 Accord V6 or an automatic 04 TL.

Pairallel
10-05-2005, 07:31 AM
Accord - I'll go with the fresh warranty, no mystery as to what the previous owner did / didn't do to it, cheaper insurance, no premium fuel requirement and lower repair bills.

Honda certified mechanics are lower-priced than Acura certified, Honda parts are less expensive, and it is easier to find qualified independent mechanics to work on Hondas - for after the warranty period expires.

Added bonus: Accord is in year 4 of the generation; '04 TL is year 1. So the Accord should be a little more stable, as far as minor issues arising.

anysia
10-05-2005, 07:50 AM
well, cheaper insurance is negligible.... stevel's didn't go up much when he went from the 4cyl accord to the tl... :dunno: very small amount.

Pairallel
10-05-2005, 08:42 AM
well, cheaper insurance is negligible....

Depends on your state (not mental; the one you live in :naughty: ) and the coverage levels. In NJ, it would be about $100 per year less for the Accord.

EXLNavi
10-05-2005, 09:05 AM
and if it's a mt, yes, accord is much easier to drive, assuming it's the 5spd mt. i've read that the v6 6spd is more difficult, much more similar to the tl.

I've heard the opposite is true since the i4 has less power than the 6, meaning that when taking off you need to shift (from 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 4-5) sooner.

No idea how true this is, since I've never driven any of the manual accords.

SSMV6
10-05-2005, 09:13 AM
I've heard the opposite is true since the i4 has less power than the 6, meaning that when taking off you need to shift (from 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 4-5) sooner.

No idea how true this is, since I've never driven any of the manual accords.
I test drove a '05 EX coupe before and it felt like a bigger, slightly slower version of my old car. I was actually quite shocked that the I4 MT felt so lively when I test drove it, but I wanted a more powerful car than my old car since I often have more than 1 passenger in the car now. :)

EXLNavi
10-05-2005, 09:15 AM
Depends on your state (not mental; the one you live in :naughty: ) and the coverage levels. In NJ, it would be about $100 per year less for the Accord.


Let me see how much mine would be...


With my current insurer (Progressive) it would be $193 per year different (Queens, New York).

I may be changing insurers, it depends on how much of a discount I get as an employee.

If it were me and money were really an issue I'd get a new 05 TL on clearance if you can get one.

anysia
10-05-2005, 09:40 AM
I've heard the opposite is true since the i4 has less power than the 6, meaning that when taking off you need to shift (from 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 4-5) sooner.

No idea how true this is, since I've never driven any of the manual accords.

i haven't driven the v6 6spd, but it is definitely harder to drive the tl than it is the i4 accord... shift points are MUCH sooner on the tl.

even my pms-ing accord is easier than the tl. and even on 6spd level, the less powerful 4cyl 6spd tsx is a much easier drive than the tl. from what i've heard the 6spd accord is very similar to the tl drive wise, not the 4cyl accord or the tsx.... thus making the 6spd v6 accord a harder drive... :(

but this is all assuming we're comparing mt, but he's looking at at's, so i guess that is all pretty much irrelevant at this point... ;)

anysia
10-05-2005, 09:46 AM
i have yet to drive the at tl, but i was a passenger in one. it felt alot more akin to the accords when it came to handling. i'm sure there was more power to the tl at than the accord at's though. im not sure if that comparison helps at all.

next questions: what is important to you in a car? bells and whistles? handling? number of doors? power? etc....

OwAce
10-05-2005, 10:01 AM
i haven't driven the v6 6spd, but it is definitely harder to drive the tl than it is the i4 accord... shift points are MUCH sooner on the tl.

even my pms-ing accord is easier than the tl. and even on 6spd level, the less powerful 4cyl 6spd tsx is a much easier drive than the tl. from what i've heard the 6spd accord is very similar to the tl drive wise, not the 4cyl accord or the tsx.... thus making the 6spd v6 accord a harder drive... :(

but this is all assuming we're comparing mt, but he's looking at at's, so i guess that is all pretty much irrelevant at this point... ;)

6spd accord is a dream to shift. donno what you talking bout anysia. :nuts: your a ninny. :nuts: .

the 5mt though is a lot easier on you since its geared taller. so you can hold the shifts longer as was pointed out earlier in the thread.

my 6spd hits 80 mph in 6th gear, if i shift under 4k rpm all the time...yes i stay out of vtec... :blush:

anysia
10-05-2005, 10:31 AM
6spd accord is a dream to shift. donno what you talking bout anysia. :nuts: your a ninny. :nuts: .

the 5mt though is a lot easier on you since its geared taller. so you can hold the shifts longer as was pointed out earlier in the thread.

my 6spd hits 80 mph in 6th gear, if i shift under 4k rpm all the time...yes i stay out of vtec... :blush:

funny thing is the 6spd tsx is a heck of alot easier than the 6spd tl. has alot to do with the power of the car.

shifting the tl is easy, it's the getting going part. whiplash galore. :lmao:

but it does prefer much closer shifts than the accord.

my 5spd hits 80 in, uh, 3rd or 4th.... :lmao: rev the engine, the car adn the gas mileage actually love it.

EXLNavi
10-05-2005, 10:52 AM
but I wanted a more powerful car than my old car since I often have more than 1 passenger in the car now. :)


That's a creative excuse if I ever heard one... And a smart way of saying "I have a girlfriend" :lmao:

Pairallel
10-05-2005, 11:20 AM
That's a creative excuse if I ever heard one... And a smart way of saying "I have a girlfriend" :lmao:


Really....! And just how heavy are those extra passengers??? :naughty:

SSMV6
10-05-2005, 11:31 AM
That's a creative excuse if I ever heard one... And a smart way of saying "I have a girlfriend" :lmao:
....and her family. :naughty:

Pairallel, let's just say, the weight difference isn't as noticable with the V6. :naughty:

If I'm driving myself around all the time, I'd be contemp with my old car. Now I got to drive other people around and every little bit of displacement helps. You can't say that an RSX can go 0-60 in under 8 seconds with a car full of people! :nuts:

In my old car, somewhere on LIE in NY, I tried to accelerate from 60mph in 3rd gear with a car full of passengers to pass a car on my right so I could make it to an exit and it just wouldn't move! And yeah, I was VTEC-ing and flooring the accelerator. :yes: After that experience, I stopped looking at HP number so highly and started to look at the torque numbers more. :biggrin:

Pairallel
10-05-2005, 12:35 PM
In my old car, somewhere on LIE in NY, I tried to accelerate from 60mph in 3rd gear

Wow! 60mph on the LIE? You must be really old, or it must have been between midnight and 4am... :jawdrop:

SSMV6
10-05-2005, 12:51 PM
Nope... There was just a lot of cars that day. I hit traffic just before a major exit and when I saw an opening, I went for it, but I could barely pass 80mph with so many passengers in the car! =P Hey, what'd you expect from a 1.6L engine at 7500rpm?? Passing acceleration?? :dunno: :lmao:

Besides, this is a NY highway you're talking about.. There's traffic 24/7. :lmao:

Inspector1
10-05-2005, 01:33 PM
Base new car warranty is not better than certified w/wrap.. Now if you are talking extended warranty thats a different story.
Also take into consideration the value holding capabilities of Acura vs Honda.

I will always buy used over new, due to the fact that 1st year (same day when you drive off the lot it may be new to you but is considered a used car.) depreciation on new is not worth it especially with Honda. But I guess for me knowing what I am looking for in used and the purpose it serves for me due to the way I pile the miles on.

I1 :)

BenjiBoy650
10-05-2005, 07:16 PM
I voted for Accord thinking the 04 TL was the old model. Boy how times have flown by. I'd go for the TL, more features, better warranty, better resale, and no surprise rattles. They all should be apparent or already fixed by the time it's traded in.

Pairallel
10-06-2005, 07:18 AM
Base new car warranty is not better than certified w/wrap.. Now if you are talking extended warranty thats a different story.
Also take into consideration the value holding capabilities of Acura vs Honda.


That would depend on how many miles are on the used TL.

Also, I believe a ceritifed used Honda/Acura comes with 7/100, but it is not bumper-to-bumper. In other words, anything cosmetic or non-mechanical would not be covered.

Is this TL certified?

Pairallel
10-06-2005, 07:20 AM
I'd go for the TL, more features, better warranty, better resale, and no surprise rattles. They all should be apparent or already fixed by the time it's traded in.

Why no surprise rattles in a TL? And who guarantees they are all fixed on trade-in?

BenjiBoy650
10-06-2005, 01:30 PM
Why no surprise rattles in a TL? And who guarantees they are all fixed on trade-in?

If the car has enough miles, there shouldn't any rattles that pop up at like...45K miles. Rattles generally seem to pop up early and then get fixed or hang around. If they're fixed, don't worry. If they're not, you'll know on the test drive. If a new one pops up, no big deal.

Basically the car has already had all the crap sorted out of it.