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fotodad
11-01-2005, 11:22 AM
After reviewing the "Peeves/Loves" thread I came up with the most discussed peeves. I omitted items like paint quality, mpg, and other big issues and focused only on the little things. Sorry if I left out one of your "peeves."

stiller fan
11-01-2005, 11:40 AM
i would put other...... two lights on dash for cruise control, size of volume knob (looks outta place too), and design of window switches...

window switches: i always like to drive with my left arm resting on the door, and most times, i have to lock the windows so that the windows won't go down from my elbow bumping them constantly..... anyone else have this problem??????

anysia
11-01-2005, 12:02 PM
i vote for the blindspot...

i hate that blindspot. it could be a safety issue at times.......

honestly none of the other things have ever bothered me, except maybe the one touch open/close for the roof. that would be nice to have.

anysia
11-01-2005, 12:04 PM
to get rid of the honk of the second push, you could push only once. or i believe there might be a way to turn that sound off and have only the lights flash. me, i hate waiting for the lights to flash. i'm usually already in motion when i hit the button twice so i can get the confirmation beep that the doors are indeed locked. ;)

GeneValgene
11-01-2005, 12:29 PM
rattle rattle rattle!

princess
11-01-2005, 12:47 PM
The only one on the list that really bothers me is that blind spot!! It's a biggie to me!!

I did think it was one of those "I'm a runt things..." but you guys proved that wrong! :thmsup:

SSMV6
11-01-2005, 12:55 PM
I don't think that blind spot is that bad... I guess I just got used to shifting my head left and right to see around the corners! :lmao: I voted for the sunroof auto open/close... They need to put that in Hondas! It's been a pet peeve of mine with the Civic and now the Accord....

EXLNavi
11-01-2005, 01:04 PM
That blind spot is HORRIBLE. I keep hitting pedestrians with headphones on! :lmao:

OwAce
11-01-2005, 01:35 PM
the passenger front seat back isnt heated? my passenger told me it is.

although im pissed of with the el-cheapo leather quality on the car.

dads-car
11-01-2005, 06:11 PM
The headrests do not tilt forward!

The '93 does that!!

BenjiBoy650
11-01-2005, 06:16 PM
The headrests do not tilt forward!

The '93 does that!!

Seems like a common trend :(

Our '97 Camry LE has tilting headrests...saw a new $40K Sienna XLE Ltd. last weekend and none of the 7 headrests tilt :scratch: :thumbsdow

EXLNavi
11-01-2005, 06:46 PM
The odo being hidden by outside temp is a good thing... lets me live in denial of my rapidly increasing mileage :(

psyshack
11-01-2005, 07:40 PM
that door lock sticking up needs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsdow

SSMV6
11-02-2005, 08:03 AM
The headrests do not tilt forward!

The '93 does that!!
I don't think the US Accords ever had a headrest that tilts forward. :dunno:

SSMV6
11-02-2005, 08:05 AM
Seems like a common trend :(

Our '97 Camry LE has tilting headrests...saw a new $40K Sienna XLE Ltd. last weekend and none of the 7 headrests tilt :scratch: :thumbsdow
... And the '92-'96 headrests have a clicking tilt mechanism vs the friction mount in the '97-'01 headrests. Tilting headrests are definately going away. Probably going to get replaced by whiplash protection headrests later on, but for now, most car only have regular headrests that only go up and down. :(

princess
11-02-2005, 09:02 AM
That's because they're no longer headrests, they're head restraints...to help your neck in an accident. They aren't for our comfort.... they're for our protection.

I personally really hate the ones on my Accord! I'm shorter than the seat back, before the thing on top. My shoulder goes to the seam in the leather. It's at an angle & so my head is bent forward all the time. If I wear a claw clip in my hair, passenger or driver, it hurts!! Maybe I need to put something soft there for those G force take offs!! :lmao:

stiller fan
11-02-2005, 09:05 AM
yeah, the headrests never tilted in the 4th gen.... at least not in the US.

snakehair
11-03-2005, 03:34 AM
It's not just short people bothered by the 'A' pillar blind spot. I am your average 6 footer and it annoys the heck out of me except when I use it as a sun blocker. Can't remember any other car where the front pillar caused such a blind spot.

mrjtree
11-03-2005, 05:26 AM
rattle rattle rattle!
squeak, squeak, squeak! :headbash:

RTexasF
11-03-2005, 10:04 AM
It's not just short people bothered by the 'A' pillar blind spot. I am your average 6 footer and it annoys the heck out of me except when I use it as a sun blocker. Can't remember any other car where the front pillar caused such a blind spot.

I guess I'm the only one that doesn't "see" the blind spot from the A pillar.

Maybe it's the seat postion I prefer? Scooted back & leaned back. :dunno:

EXLNavi
11-03-2005, 10:06 AM
I've never noticed the blind spot either. Can someone point it out? Photograph, perhaps?

psyshack
11-03-2005, 10:59 AM
A-pillar isnt a problem here at all either.

Some folks dont like not seeing the hood of the car also. Dont know where the front end is if they cant see the hood.

dads-car
11-03-2005, 07:30 PM
A-pillar isnt a problem here at all either.

Some folks dont like not seeing the hood of the car also. Dont know where the front end is if they cant see the hood.

Agreed...

Dont mind the pillars, and I like to be able to see the bonnet because I know where I am!

Redsox04
11-04-2005, 04:58 PM
I voted for the temp/odometer only because that was the frist thing i noticed i disliked about the car. I like to see both when i am driving... but the A-pillar is an issue too. I would have voted for both.

SSMV6
11-04-2005, 10:12 PM
Maybe this should've been a multi-choice poll instead of multiple choice. :dunno: :banana:

Peniole
11-06-2005, 06:55 PM
I have no idea what blind spot you're talking about :dunno:

I do have a peeve about the instrument lighting level. My second peeve (it would have been first if I had to do more parallel parking) it's almost impossible to gague where the rear end of the car is, I got around the front end by using the tip of the wipers and the side mirrors as a marker.

Unity1
11-07-2005, 06:45 AM
I voted for the DIY headlight replacement... by which I assume the reference was to replacing the light bulbs.

Replacing the driver's side low-beam bulb is a real pain in the ass. Having to pull apart part of the wheel well shroud? That's asinine.

SSMV6
11-07-2005, 08:09 AM
I voted for the DIY headlight replacement... by which I assume the reference was to replacing the light bulbs.

Replacing the driver's side low-beam bulb is a real pain in the ass. Having to pull apart part of the wheel well shroud? That's asinine.
The Accords (actually many Hondas) have been designed like this for a while now. If it's not the headlight, then it's the turn signal bulb. I think it has something to do with how the headlights sweeping towards the back of the car. :dunno:

Unity1
11-07-2005, 08:17 AM
The Accords (actually many Hondas) have been designed like this for a while now. If it's not the headlight, then it's the turn signal bulb. I think it has something to do with how the headlights sweeping towards the back of the car. :dunno:

Well, just because that's the way it's been designed for a while doesn't make it right. I know you weren't saying that it does... I'm just a little disappointed in Honda for that.

My old car, a Dodge Intrepid, was a breeze on which to change headlight and turn signal bulbs.... and that car's 5 years old now.

SSMV6
11-07-2005, 08:37 AM
Well, just because that's the way it's been designed for a while doesn't make it right. I know you weren't saying that it does... I'm just a little disappointed in Honda for that.

My old car, a Dodge Intrepid, was a breeze on which to change headlight and turn signal bulbs.... and that car's 5 years old now.
I never said it was right. But I DO think it has something to do with trying to maximize the cabin space without increasing the overall length of the car while maintaining the car's good looks. The struts/ wheels are mounted closer to the corners of the car than ever before so there's less space between the wheel well and the headlights. The windshield is swept back at an increasingly sharper angle and moved forward (cab-forward design) so the battery still can't get placed between the shock tower and the firewall. They could do what BMW did and relocate the battery outside of the engine compartment, but that would make changing the battery a hassle. So they did the next best thing they can think of and left the bettery behind the headlights but made it so it's still accessible through the wheelwell.

You don't have to pull apart the wheel well lining completely. You just got to undo a couple of clips and pull it aside. It's easier if you turn the wheels all the way first.

Unity1
11-07-2005, 08:55 AM
I never said it was right. But I DO think it has something to do with trying to maximize the cabin space without increasing the overall length of the car while maintaining the car's good looks. The struts/ wheels are mounted closer to the corners of the car than ever before so there's less space between the wheel well and the headlights. The windshield is swept back at an increasingly sharper angle and moved forward (cab-forward design) so the battery still can't get placed between the shock tower and the firewall. They could do what BMW did and relocate the battery outside of the engine compartment, but that would make changing the battery a hassle. So they did the next best thing they can think of and left the bettery behind the headlights but made it so it's still accessible through the wheelwell.

The Intrepid was cab-forward too... and the light bulbs were a snap to change.

You don't have to pull apart the wheel well lining completely. You just got to undo a couple of clips and pull it aside. It's easier if you turn the wheels all the way first.

I know.

SSMV6
11-07-2005, 09:04 AM
The Intrepid was cab-forward too... and the light bulbs were a snap to change.



I know.
You're still comparing apples to oranges though. The Intrepid is a fullsize whereas the Accord is a midsize. Just be glad they didn't design it so you'll have to remove the headlight housing to change a lightbulb! :wave:

Unity1
11-07-2005, 09:15 AM
The engine compartment size isn't all that different in the Accord than it is in the Intrepid... so the size classification of the car isn't all that significant. And, technically, the Intrepid is still classified a mid-size.

It looks smaller in the Intrepid because the engine compartment is a smaller percentage of the car's size than in the Accord.

As far as I can tell, the major reason for the difficulty in changing the headlight bulbs (aside from battery placement) is the shape of the hood and front quarter panels.

hermann
11-07-2005, 02:44 PM
A-Pillar here also. But would be headlight bulb if it had happened to me..

Lousy Michelin Tires which are made but for one purpose, A one mile per gallon increase in fuel economy, if it was on the list.

Dan

honda761
04-08-2006, 06:21 PM
The seat belt reminder chime. I'm not 10 years old I know you should buckle up.

ItsaHonda
04-08-2006, 07:03 PM
For me it's the stiff ride and the rattles/vibrations in the door panels (which werent on the poll) I love everything else about the car.

Conundrum
04-09-2006, 11:32 AM
odometer/temp gauge for me...I had hopes that the trip A odometer would go past 999.9 (would either loose the decimal point or move the outside temp a litle more to the left) but no such luck.

Oh well, I have the real odo back up while I finish the extended break in of the car so I know when I hit the next point I can push her a little harder/higher in the RPM band, then its back to temp and trip A I guess (I can still use trip A to track fuel economy anyhow).

hermann
04-09-2006, 06:42 PM
I vote for the &*#$%^& blind spot again. Just got back from the Ozarks in NW Arkansas down to Hot Springs. On some of the tight turns to the left the blind spot was limiting my cornering speeds.. I don't feel real confident looking behind the A-pillar to catch my line through the curve. It often times is too far back to maintain the proper line. :confused: :screwy: Sometimes I think the designers of the 7th gen Accord were smoking too much of the wacky tobacco. :beatnik:

BTW I averaged 33 MPG on the trip. All four tanks were just slightly above or below 33 MPG. :nuts: :D :thmsup: :yes: Including bonzai runs up and down mountains roads in 3rd gear a lot!! :thmsup: :) :yes:

RTexasF
04-10-2006, 10:59 AM
The two that bother me the most are the doorlock on the driver's door, which Psy mentioned, and the idiotic way you have to unlatch the back seats to fold them forward......very poor design. You have to pull on the flimsy plastic handle, while halfway inside the trunk, and push on the seat back at the same time.

Fine for a contortionist but not for this old boy.

jermy4
04-10-2006, 11:11 AM
The two that bother me the most are the doorlock on the driver's door, which Psy mentioned, and the idiotic way you have to unlatch the back seats to fold them forward......very poor design. You have to pull on the flimsy plastic handle, while halfway inside the trunk, and push on the seat back at the same time.

Fine for a contortionist but not for this old boy.
There is a keyhole on the inside that you can use to fold the backseat from the inside too. At least on my car there is.

stiller fan
04-10-2006, 11:13 AM
i was wondering if there was still a keyhole located on the back shelf (by rear window) that you can unlock to fold the seats down.... mine does..... :dunno:

RTexasF
04-10-2006, 12:35 PM
Thanks, I'm aware of the locking keyhole thingie but it's still a pain in the arse. My gals's lowly Corolla has two very stout knobs you pull in the trunk that don't require anything more than a short tug to release the rear seats, one or both as needed. Then the seats move forward on their own ready to be completely folded unlike the Accord's.

I use this car as a truck all the time (at least weekly) and standing on my head to pull & push at the same time gets old quickly......same with getting inside the rear of the car to unlatch and pull on the seat. It's just a lousy design.

princess
04-10-2006, 12:44 PM
Think it's hard for you to reach it...try being my size & doing that!! :paranoid: :lmao: I've crawled in my trunk on many occations!! I wonder what the people that see me think..... One of these windy days I might find myself learning just how that "kidnap" thing works!!! :lmao:

stevencrosbie
04-10-2006, 12:48 PM
Think it's hard for you to reach it...try being my size & doing that!! :paranoid: :lmao: I've crawled in my trunk on many occations!! I wonder what the people that see me think..... One of these windy days I might find myself learning just how that "kidnap" thing works!!! :lmao:


That sounds like a good trick your Prince could do......

Oh man would that be funny :lmao: :lmao:

princess
04-10-2006, 01:02 PM
He's threatened to.....but so far he's been smarter than that!! :lmao:

SSMV6
04-10-2006, 01:06 PM
i was wondering if there was still a keyhole located on the back shelf (by rear window) that you can unlock to fold the seats down.... mine does..... :dunno:
:yes: Bundled up with non-split folding seats makes it even worse. The whole seatback is heavier and harder to move than just the 60 or 40 portion alone. At least your gen has the 60/40 seats!

HarlemV6Honda
04-12-2006, 04:31 PM
It has to be the A-pillar blindspot! I was in the ER a couple of days ago with strep throat and I was talking with a woman that was on her way to work but was hit by a car turning a corner; the driver didn't see her. The way she told the story was hillarious, but I started to think of the times where I've nearly mowed someone down because I couldn't see around the totem poles that support the windshield! :paranoid: